Rasmussen: ObamaCare support hits new lows
posted at 12:55 pm on August 11, 2009 by Ed Morrissey
The public campaign for ObamaCare has slipped to a new low, with a greater majority now opposing it, according to the latest polling from Rasmussen. Likely voters now oppose it 53%-42%, when six weeks ago a slim majority favored the plan. The intensity of opposition has increased greatly, while the intensity of support has diminished:
Public support for the health care reform plan proposed by President Obama and congressional Democrats has fallen to a new low as just 42% of U.S. voters now favor the plan. That’s down five points from two weeks ago and down eight points from six weeks ago.
A new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey shows that opposition to the plan has increased to 53%, up nine points since late June.
More significantly, 44% of voters strongly oppose the health care reform effort versus 26% who strongly favor it. Intensity has been stronger among opponents of the plan since the debate began.
The big problem for Democrats remains the independent voters. They lost that bloc at about the time that the CBO began issuing its analyses of the various versions of ObamaCare, and that trend has only gotten worse for Obama and Pelosi. Sixty-two percent of unaffiliated likely voters oppose the bill, and now a majority (51%) strongly oppose it. The intensity of opposition among unaffiliated voters holds a great danger for Democrats looking to get re-elected in 2010 to their House and Senate seats.
The intensity of opposition has increased among practically all demographics. Forty-four percent of all likely voters now strongly oppose ObamaCare, which goes to 49% of men and 39% of women — who oppose it overall by 50%-43%, losing a key demographic. While the youngest voters strongly favor ObamaCare by 57%, the numbers flip for all other age demos: 51% strongly oppose in 30-39, 58% in 40-49, 43% in 50-64, and 46% among seniors. The same holds true for income demos. Among the lowest-income earners, 51% strongly support, but then strongly oppose gets majorities or strong pluralities for the other brackets: 38% for $20-40K, 56% for $40-60K and $60-75K, 40% for $75-100K, and 55% for $100K+, a surprising result as this has been swinging for Obama until now.
Majorities also now say that passing the bill will make health-care more expensive (51%) and lower quality (51%). Among independents, those numbers are 49% and 59%, respectively, which underscores the problems Obama has in convincing America to support this bill. If most people believe it will make medical care cost more and patients to get lower-quality care, why would they support it?
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What does that have to do with anything? I don’t even like Robert Byrd. I just don’t see how you can absolutely revere a slaveholder.
Terry Silver on August 11, 2009 at 2:55 PM
it’s all done now.
ted c on August 11, 2009 at 2:55 PM
Did you see him under the podium, drinking his koolaid?
HornetSting on August 11, 2009 at 2:56 PM
Same as your little racist rant, skippy.
HornetSting on August 11, 2009 at 2:56 PM
Aww bet it looks great! I need to get up there. Next time I’m in Richmond I’ll make the pilgrimage there and to Monticello.
elduende on August 11, 2009 at 2:57 PM
With even MSNBC calling this town hall a softball-laden “campaign event,” I’ll just bet Obama and his staff are stupid enough to plant an angry, profane anti-Obamacare questioner at the next one. We’ll find out soon after that “Angry Bob from Kansas” is really “Bought-and-paid-for Stan the union boss from Chicago,” cuz there is no freakin’ way in the world Obama is going to risk real questions from real people. This orchestrated venue had him sweating like Paris Hilton on date night. With real critics, he’d be spouting one gaffe after another.
Rational Thought on August 11, 2009 at 2:57 PM
HornetSting on August 11, 2009 at 2:56 PM
Last time I saw someone try that was in Police Academy. Come to think of it, Obama’s attempt at rigging his meeting was pretty funny, too.
kingsjester on August 11, 2009 at 2:58 PM
Oh my god. It is just sickening the amount of projection that goes on in here. You put these founding fathers right up there with God in their greatness, even though they owned slaves. Then you call me racist! If they were so visionary why did they own slaves? If they were so ahead of their time why did they deny women the right to vote?
Terry Silver on August 11, 2009 at 2:59 PM
I agree. They’ll go for “general welfare” first, but that will be slapped down and then they have nothing but the commerce clause left, but they will stumble all over themselves trying to justify, for the people, the opening of a federal company under the rubric of “regulating commerce among the several states”.
You know, it’s amazing that the “Constitutional scholar” in the White House never has anything to say about the Constitution. If he had any brains, he would be offering Constitutional backing for everything he wants to do (twisting and perverting the Constitution, obviously, but leaning on his “lawyerly knowledge” and some decent double-talk to roll over the media and the people). But he never even mentions the Constitution, because he’s too stupid to make any arguments about it, twisted or not.
progressoverpeace on August 11, 2009 at 2:59 PM
People are the reflection of their times, it is ridiculous not to factor it in. Think of all the famous philosophers who believed the Earth was flat. Do you discount everything they have ever said simply because of the times they lived? People grow and learn as our history shows.
Cindy Munford on August 11, 2009 at 3:01 PM
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You know what is ridiculous? The blind support of all things Obama by the under 30 crowd!
They are the group that will be hurt to most because, firstly, they will have to pay for the Obama plan by mandatory enrollment when they chose to not have insurance today. Secondly, by the time they need serious healthcare, there will be no private competition in existence to provide quality care as the Obama Health CONTROL System will be fully implemented.
So they loose money, freedom of choice, and a chance at quality healthcare. What a deal!
.
“16 million American citizens can afford but chose not to buy health insurance.” This group is comprised, mostly, of the under 30 crowd.
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JeffVader on August 11, 2009 at 3:02 PM
Ignorance is bliss.
They’ve probably coached him not to even mention the constitutionality because they know this is a massive can of worms that will defeat them.
elduende on August 11, 2009 at 3:03 PM
Don’t waste your keystrokes on this troll, Cindy. Anyone who wants to rant about slavery is irrelevant.
guntotinglibertarian on August 11, 2009 at 3:04 PM
They are seen as visionaries ahead of their time. That is when it came to the rights of white men. The founding fathers are heralded as great men and in this very thread on the last page, James Madison was compared to Jesus Christ. Great men don’t own slaves. They are influential men, but they are not great. They were racist and sexist.
Terry Silver on August 11, 2009 at 3:04 PM
He was a great man, and slavery was just part of the times. But thanks for being so sanctomonious. You holier-than-thou attitude is entertaining. It’s funny that blacks and leftists seem to love islam, which is the only culture on earth that still accepts slavery (except for a good number of African populations, these days). But you morons don’t like to talk about that. You just hate the West. You really should just leave, already.
You people are just nuts.
progressoverpeace on August 11, 2009 at 3:05 PM
So, to hell with the constitution? You really are drinking the koolaid? You need to get off your knees every once in a while, skippy.
HornetSting on August 11, 2009 at 3:05 PM
They wait until they get sick. And then they complain that their “pre-existing condition” isn’t covered.
guntotinglibertarian on August 11, 2009 at 3:05 PM
Wrong again buddy. I don’t like Islam, never have. I’ve seen it first hand.
Terry Silver on August 11, 2009 at 3:08 PM
Just one item on a very long list of things you don’t get.
highhopes on August 11, 2009 at 3:09 PM
I never said that. What I said was when your negatives include owning over 100 slaves, as James Madison did, I will refrain from calling you great.
Terry Silver on August 11, 2009 at 3:09 PM
Bbbbbbbbut Rasmussen is a right wing hack. The people love Dear Leader and his plans.
– MSNBC
– liberal343
– deathtomediahackers (what happened to him)
– ernesto
– AnnInCa
angryed on August 11, 2009 at 3:10 PM
And someone tried to chastise me because I said that Terry was an America-hater. I can’t think of Terry being much more explicit about his hate of America than he is in his attempt to denigrate our Founders.
And the funny part is that the blacks that are in the best position of all in the world are those whose ancestors were brought to the US. Everyone in the world is trying to do anything they can to get here.
Me, I’m happy that my great-grandfather was run out of Russia by pogroms. I thank the Russians for abusing my ancestors enough to drive them to America. They suffered so that I could be an American.
The luckiest people on Earth are those born American, however their ancestors got here. But, some people don’t know what to be thankful for.
progressoverpeace on August 11, 2009 at 3:11 PM
Wow. Explain your reverence for a slaveholder. I can see how you could say he had great ideas or wrote a great document. That he never intended to include all people with of course, but how can you revere him? This isn’t like he cheated on his wife or his taxes. HE OWNED SLAVES!
Terry Silver on August 11, 2009 at 3:12 PM
Sure you did, skippy. No one is perfect except you, right? Except for that dribble of koolaid on your chin….Yes you can, hide under a podium, right skippy?
HornetSting on August 11, 2009 at 3:13 PM
Well analyze who is under 30
18-22 in college, think they’re out to change the world
23-25 still in college mode, making $35K a year, not earning enough to pay much in the way of taxes. Still think they can change the world.
Any issue that comes up they will be on the liberal side. It’s natural. You’re young and stupid. It’s always been like that.
angryed on August 11, 2009 at 3:14 PM
You’re a moron. Alexander owned slaves. Socrates owned slaves.
And, by the way, freed blacks in the US owned slaves at a much higher rate than whites. You don’t like to think about that too much, do you? You don’t like to hold the africans and muslim slave traders to anything, even though the Europeans picked up the trade from them.
You live in a bubble of stupidity and think that you can view all of history from today. You’re too stupid for words, really.
progressoverpeace on August 11, 2009 at 3:14 PM
Your hero sat in the church of racism and listened to Rev. Wright for 20 years….yes you can, make your idiot horde believe anything, right skippy…..glass houses, podium rider.
HornetSting on August 11, 2009 at 3:14 PM
tee hee
cmsinaz on August 11, 2009 at 3:15 PM
I swear I wish you were here so I could slug you for calling me un-American. I don’t get a hard-on for slaveholders so that makes me un-American? I am lucky to be here, as is everybody. I think that the constitution is a great document. Now that doesn’t change the fact that Madison was a complete prick to people who weren’t white men. That is not somebody to revere.
Terry Silver on August 11, 2009 at 3:15 PM
Hey wait a minute! the serious conservatives and the DC mouthpieces have been urging the peeps to stop shouting and to be polite. Why, last night on Fox News, even Charles the K said the townhalls had been counterproductive for opponents of Obamacare, because average joe and jane don’t like the shouting. He said Obama had won the debate in the last week, because the spectacle of people disrespecting their DC betters at townhalls all across the country was backfiring.
So much for the superiority of the view from Washington.
Dear pundits and serious conservatives: people have taken matters into their own hands. If you can’t help, at least stop whining.
james23 on August 11, 2009 at 3:17 PM
That’s the second person you have said that to today. Settle down, nancy. You would hide behind your wooden sword.
Go watch a rerun of obama and cool off, fancy pants.
You are an idiot and yes, I think you might be un-American too.
HornetSting on August 11, 2009 at 3:18 PM
Are you dense? Did I ever say anything like that? I realize that Europeans didn’t just snatch up Africans by themselves but bought them from other Africans. I’m talking about James freaking Madison, Slaveowner.
Terry Silver on August 11, 2009 at 3:18 PM
Settle down, fancy pants. Put down the wooden sword.
HornetSting on August 11, 2009 at 3:20 PM
i cringed when i heard that too….ugh, he needs to get outside of the beltway…..
cmsinaz on August 11, 2009 at 3:20 PM
You know what, fine. Go on and keep on putting slaveholders on a pedestal. Bravo man!
Terry Silver on August 11, 2009 at 3:21 PM
guntotinglibertarian on August 11, 2009 at 3:21 PM
Don’t blame me for your emotional problems. You are clearly un-American – anti-American, even.
So the entire world was nothing but slime, since pretty much everyone owned slaves? Do you realize how dumb you are?
Why are you lucky? This is just the product of slimeballs, by your assessment.
Suire you do. You just don’t want to follow any of it. And the Constitution had salvery allowed in it, along with the 3/5ths census count for blacks. How can you think it’s a great document with those problems (as you said about the guy who was its main architect)?
Easy. Because you don’t know what the hell you’re talking about. You just babble.
Okay. You are too funny. I think you need to go to a country whose founders you can respect, instead of having to live under a document framed by people you think were scum. I mean, don’t you have any self-respect?
progressoverpeace on August 11, 2009 at 3:22 PM
Listen james. There is no more intimate encounter than you have ever had with a person, other than your spouse and family, than with a medical person. You’ve had to hang every shred of dignity out and reveal terribly personal details and problems to a nurse and doctor. You’ve felt the shame and anxiety about what happens to you at a medical visit. Parents are concerned about their children’s future and what will be foisted upon them by the supreme decision makers.
This issue cuts right to the core of all people and is deeply personal. It is extraordinarily intimate and is an issue that is going to be deeply passionate for people. There’s nothing unserious about this passion. This is real, especially if you’re sick, injured, handicapped or caring for someone who is.
ted c on August 11, 2009 at 3:22 PM
Pardon my intrusion, but there’s this little thing called zeitgeist. It is anti-intellectual — sophomoric even — to evaluate people of the distant past based upon the values of the moment. It is lazy and narcissistic to appraise history absent its zeitgeist. It serves nothing but vain satisfaction of the moment, the fleeting, ephemeral, always shifting moment. Moreover, if the fact of slavery tells you something about this nation’s founding and its forefathers, then slavery’s eradication based upon the documents of that founding and Judeo-Christian philosophy must tell you something as well about this nation, yes? Perhaps something about the enduring morality of those documents, their abiding genius, their unassailable worth. Perhaps, then, the authors of such documents, the purveyors of that genius, are worthy as well. Does that not seem reasonable to you?
Rational Thought on August 11, 2009 at 3:22 PM
And you keep drinking that obama koolaid, skippy. Yes we can…yes we can….
HornetSting on August 11, 2009 at 3:22 PM
Hannity is talking about Obama’s campaign rally today. Obama fooled no one. Nice try at jacking the thread, Skippy. Your President is going to go down as the worst President ever. His poll numbers are tanking at 7 months in and now he puts on a staged “Townhall Meeting.” Epic fail.
kingsjester on August 11, 2009 at 3:23 PM
Why are you guys even bothering with Terry Silver?
Anyone who expresses a desire to punch somebody in the face on the basis of a blog comment is worthy of only one thing: ignore the ass.
guntotinglibertarian on August 11, 2009 at 3:24 PM
In early American history, were all slaves of African descent? Were all slaves treated in the same manner by every slave owner? Were no slaves treated humanely or even generously, in comparison to how poor non-slaves were treated? Were all women treated as unequal by every man?
Can a great person ever lie, commit a crime, make a mistake, or commit sin?
Loxodonta on August 11, 2009 at 3:24 PM
Nope–they were flawed men just like you and I and the other fellas up in government. They were inspired insofar as the creation of this nation. Slavery was an issue that wasn’t handled/couldn’t be handled simultaneously. Are you so narrow to discount the benefits that you’ve had by living in this country by picking up on this issue? Did we not reconcile slavery through the civil war? Did we not further reconcile civil rights issues through the civil rights act, and now with the election of our first black president?
Why yes, we did. But we had to reconcile first the issue of international tyranny. Now we have to reconcile the issue of intranational tyranny.
ted c on August 11, 2009 at 3:26 PM
Because it’s fun…
HornetSting on August 11, 2009 at 3:27 PM
How far back can I go into history without being “lazy” or “anti-intellectual”? 20 years? 50 years? I never doubted the greatness of Madison’s writings. I doubted his greatness. His writing may be unassailable but his intentions aren’t. Like the fact that he and other founding fathers never meant for the constitution to speak for all people. That fact is assailable.
Terry Silver on August 11, 2009 at 3:29 PM
Great men also don’t lie to the faces of their constituents either.
Men are men–they’re fallible. Obama is no better since he doesn’t own slaves nor is he any worse because he’s a liar. They’re coequal and posterity judges them appropriately. Now, the founders did lay the foundation to abolish slavery by laying out the cause for freedom and liberty. It simply did not happen until almost a hundred years later. Had we not fought the Revolution, the Civil War etc., trust me champ, slavery would have remained an issue for long into the 1900′s.
ted c on August 11, 2009 at 3:30 PM
Beautifully stated.
Loxodonta on August 11, 2009 at 3:30 PM
Don’t blame me for your emotional problems. Yes, you are un-American – anti-American, even, by the idiocy you are spewing.
You have no respect for genius. Your “slave-holder” crap is just stupid. You would consider everyone in the world to be unacceptable, as all owned slaves (except for the poor, who you think are the only decent people, evidently). And, if you were so anti-slave, you would spend more time fighting modern day slavery … but I’ve never heard you make even one mention of that. You are laughable.
You don’t deserve to be here. You have no appreciation for this nation. You are just selfish and self-absorbed.
More genius from Terry. Madison isn’t great, but the document he wrote is great. He, Einstein, did you know that slavery was allowed in that document you think is great?
Do you even listen to yourself?
You should leave and go to a country whose founders you respect. White men built this country and you should be thankful that such geniuses existed to create the greatest nation the world has ever seen. But, no. You’re too stupid to understand that. You just want to dismantle and destroy this nation to make yourself feel better. You are pathetic, just like your America-hating Precedent.
progressoverpeace on August 11, 2009 at 3:30 PM
Rational Thought on August 11, 2009 at 3:22 PM
nice work.
ted c on August 11, 2009 at 3:31 PM
Because he promised me 50% ownership of his dojos if I kick the crap out of Daniel Larusso.
Sincerely,
Mike Barnes
Doughboy on August 11, 2009 at 3:31 PM
Thank you, thank you, thank you. That is what I am getting at. It irks me when people compare somebody like Madison to Jesus Christ, like earlier in this thread or considers him infallible and beyond reproach. He is a flawed man. A very flawed man.
Terry Silver on August 11, 2009 at 3:32 PM
……so is your president, but you bow at his
altarpodium.HornetSting on August 11, 2009 at 3:37 PM
Go F yourself, ok? Repeatedly. I wish I knew you because I wouldn’t stop at just knocking your teeth in. I despise people like you who rely on the crutch of calling anybody who disagrees with you anti-American. You are a despicable human being, and I wouldn’t weep for your death. Now go suck your slave holding god James Madison’s c*ck you un-American piece of sh*t.
Terry Silver on August 11, 2009 at 3:37 PM
Aright, I’ll play, just to clarify this clown’s distortions.
A. I am the one who mentioned Jesus Christ and Madison in the same comment. Not to compare them, but to say that Madison was, in my opinion, the greatest non-divine figure in human history. That’s not a comparison, it’s a qualification. I don’t expect a dolt like Terry to understand the distinction.
Not a single person here said Madison is infallible or beyond reproach. Stupid straw man argument.
guntotinglibertarian on August 11, 2009 at 3:38 PM
Ok massa. I is so grateful fo everyting dat da white man has provided me!
Terry Silver on August 11, 2009 at 3:39 PM
Wow. A bit of an anger problem? Lol, leave the sissy alone, guys.
guntotinglibertarian on August 11, 2009 at 3:39 PM
Ooooh! Big bad, Terry! You need therapy, my podium ducking friend.
HornetSting on August 11, 2009 at 3:40 PM
Good answer, there. And you called me “un-American” … ooooh. That hurt.
Thanks for exposing exactly what you are, Terry.
progressoverpeace on August 11, 2009 at 3:40 PM
Nice try pal. There is no way that a slaveholder, even if they cured cancer or solved world hunger, should be put in the same paragraph as Jesus Christ. Sheesh!
Terry Silver on August 11, 2009 at 3:41 PM
As I said, I don’t expect someone of your limited intellect to understand the distinction. Inner city schools didn’t prepare you for robust dialogue.
guntotinglibertarian on August 11, 2009 at 3:42 PM
I’m certainly grateful for what they did. You have nothing but contempt for people who have shaped this world and given more to it than just about anyone else in history. Typical. That’s why you are nothing but a drag to the society unlucky enough to have you in it. You have no respect for genius and no appreciation of what others have done for you, that they didn’t have to. You think the world owes you.
progressoverpeace on August 11, 2009 at 3:43 PM
Yes, it’s true that none of the Founders were God, the Son of God, a saint, or perfect. All of them had flaws, and some more so than others. Sometimes we get carried away in our enthusiasm about the Founders and overlook their imperfections.
Happy now?
Okay, are we all ready?
So what?
Which is most important to focus on, the evil they did in their lives, or the good they left behind?
Loxodonta on August 11, 2009 at 3:43 PM
You know you are in the right when your saying that Jesus should never ever be close to being compared to any man and the other side is defending a slaveholder. Have a nice day c*ckbags!
Terry Silver on August 11, 2009 at 3:43 PM
If you’d rather live in Africa, I’ll gladly buy you a one-way ticket to the crown jewels of the continent…like Zimbabwe for instance. Throwing out those eeevil white farmers sure worked well, didn’t it?
Dark-Star on August 11, 2009 at 3:44 PM
Whoooo. I’m black so I automatically went to an inner city school right? HAHAHAHAHA. You racist piece of crap. HAHAHAHA. Why don’t you get out of my country?
Terry Silver on August 11, 2009 at 3:45 PM
I just feel compelled to press this question. If this plan is so damned great. Why don’t our elected officials, and those that work for the government, insist they be a part of this plan, and scrap their private plans?
capejasmine on August 11, 2009 at 3:45 PM
Awww, don’t want to play anymore? C*ckbag, is that obama’s name for you, Terry?
HornetSting on August 11, 2009 at 3:46 PM
Sure gets racial real fast in here huh. I was born in raised in America so I don’t know where this Africa stuff comes from. UM UM…why don’t you go back to Europe?
Terry Silver on August 11, 2009 at 3:46 PM
Why don’t you ‘go home’, die early of disease or violence, and spare us your pottymouthed ramblings?
Dark-Star on August 11, 2009 at 3:47 PM
Nah, we couldn’t tell by your name that you are black, I would say you are silver, but that is not right….but you are certainly stupid. Get that chip on your shoulder checked out before it eats your brain, racist.
HornetSting on August 11, 2009 at 3:47 PM
I knew that one would get to ya. Lol.
guntotinglibertarian on August 11, 2009 at 3:48 PM
I guarantee I have contributed more to this country in taxes alone you lowlife.
Terry Silver on August 11, 2009 at 3:48 PM
I take it you’re not Christian.
Loxodonta on August 11, 2009 at 3:49 PM
Hey, Terry, I’ve got a better one for you. You can look at the doctors of 200 years ago and call them all torturers, as they used to love to cut off limbs without anesthesia and would do all sorts of procedures that would qualify as serious torture, today – and they wouldn’t even cure half of their patients. You can denigrate every medical man from history! You’d have such fun, and the cognitive dissonance doesn’t seem to bother you, at all.
progressoverpeace on August 11, 2009 at 3:49 PM
Yeah, I bet your education prepared you to be a real captain of industry.
guntotinglibertarian on August 11, 2009 at 3:50 PM
I love that the person defending a slaveholder is accusing me of being racist. What type of dementia do you have?
Terry Silver on August 11, 2009 at 3:50 PM
So why are you here playing every race card in the deck?
White men freed this country from a nutty king and his fatcat cronies, freed the slaves that their own brethren imported (and why did those idiots ever think that was such a good idea???), and made it what it was.
If you don’t like America, the evil white man’s nation, you can LEAVE.
Dark-Star on August 11, 2009 at 3:50 PM
Yeah it did. Thank you for the compliment.
Terry Silver on August 11, 2009 at 3:51 PM
Allergic to Moonbat gauno.
Loxodonta on August 11, 2009 at 3:51 PM
This is awesome. We get to witness socialism very slowly eat itself. :D
For some reason I like polls now.
FontanaConservative on August 11, 2009 at 3:52 PM
Before you take over the world, you might want to purchase a dictionary, Terry.
HornetSting on August 11, 2009 at 3:52 PM
Whatever publicly-funded dump of a ‘school’ Terry-bull Silver attended, it’s clear that about the only thing he learned was how to game the system.
Dark-Star on August 11, 2009 at 3:52 PM
And yet somehow conservatives are the mean ones?
angryed on August 11, 2009 at 3:52 PM
Let’s try a math test, then.
Each month, you get $300 in food stamps. There are 15 coupons. What is the face value of each coupon?
guntotinglibertarian on August 11, 2009 at 3:52 PM
Um, you are history deficient. Most of them did not own slaves. A fact you would know if you read any of the congressional minutes from when the Constitution was created by James Madison and the ceaseless debates that ensued over the configuration of the congress.
Good question. They should be compelled to eat their own dog food.
dogsoldier on August 11, 2009 at 3:53 PM
Somebody told me to go back to Africa. Oh that’s right it was you. Why would I want to leave the country I love? If anything I want you to leave.
Terry Silver on August 11, 2009 at 3:53 PM
Captain of the Titanic.
Loxodonta on August 11, 2009 at 3:53 PM
Terry,
I must commend you on one thing. You are definitely earning your Soros pay unlike your co-worker liberal343. If you want I could send George a recommendation for you.
angryed on August 11, 2009 at 3:54 PM
LOL.
progressoverpeace on August 11, 2009 at 3:55 PM
I think your koolaid breath is causing it….oh, that’s right, blacks cannot be racist. sure sure.
HornetSting on August 11, 2009 at 3:56 PM
So lets recap, shall we? I should move to Zimbabwe. I’m un-and anti-American. I am on foodstamps. I went to innercity schools. Anything I’m missing? Have you called me Buckwheat yet?
Terry Silver on August 11, 2009 at 3:57 PM
from the AP
had to laugh when I saw this
:-)
cmsinaz on August 11, 2009 at 3:58 PM
Moving to Zimbabwe might put things in perspective for you…
Upstater85 on August 11, 2009 at 3:59 PM
Awww. The victim. You wear it well.
HornetSting on August 11, 2009 at 3:59 PM
That would be an incredibly dreadful insult to Buckwheat.
Dark-Star on August 11, 2009 at 3:59 PM
What is it, exactly, that you love about the US? You hate the people who built this nation, so what is so attractive about it, to you? Do you love this nation so much that you are grateful that your ancestors got here, no matter how, and are willing to stop whining like an infant?
LOL. Leave the US with you and your ilk? You people are in charge, now, and you’re running this nation into the ground faster than at any point in our history, including the War between the States. You people are killing the greatest nation on Earth. You will all go down in history as the most foolsih, stupid, selfish people ever to have appeared on Earth. Your stories will be a cautionary tale for thousands of years into the future, pushing the fall of the Roman Empire into the background. And you fools have managed to push this nation to the edge in just over 6 months. Amazing. I can see why you’re proud. Like The Precedent, all you ever wanted was to make Americans pay for your perceived slights. Pathetic.
progressoverpeace on August 11, 2009 at 4:00 PM
Did I ever say I don’t like it in the greatest nation on earth? All I said is that James Madison was not a great person and boom I should move to Zimbabwe to gain some perspective.
Terry Silver on August 11, 2009 at 4:00 PM
guntotinglibertarian and HornetSting
Terry Silver is a liberal. Liberals are about Hate. Pure and simple. Hate is actually fun. Quite enjoyable, satisfying, elevating (of oneself over the hated certainly), and highly gratifying. That is why so many humans and their leaders have indulged it for millennia. And they have chosen to despise the civilization they live in. In doing so they are IMMEDIATELY better than all of us who choose not to. It is not possible to Hate without feeling superior in a very genuine sense, be it moral or whatever. So they Hate Slave Owners and Western Civilization with relish, and Hate you and I for supporting, or even just participating in the perpetuation of same.
Ghostbuster on August 11, 2009 at 4:01 PM
I am a failure because of slavery.
Terry Silver
That about sums it up.
guntotinglibertarian on August 11, 2009 at 4:02 PM
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