Obama: We’ll tackle immigration in 2010
posted at 10:55 am on August 11, 2009 by Ed Morrissey
At first, the White House announcement that they would push for immigration reform in 2010 seemed very counterintuitive. After all, Barack Obama’s health-care reform package has stalled in Congress and split his party along ideological grounds, and unified the Republicans against the White House. Obama also has his cap-and-trade package stuck between the House and Senate, which has split the Democrats on regional as well as ideological grounds and probably won’t get through the Senate this year, if at all. Isn’t it crazy to follow those with another highly divisive political issue, certain to raise voices and blood pressure in town halls across America?
Sure — crazy like a fox:
President Obama, attending a North American summit with the leaders of Mexico and Canada, said Monday that his administration will pursue a comprehensive overhaul of the U.S. immigration system this year but that no action on legislation will happen before 2010.
Wrapping up the two-day meeting, Obama said that there needs to be “a pathway to citizenship” for millions of illegal immigrants in the United States, and that the system must be reworked to avoid tensions with Mexico. Without it, he said, Mexicans will keep crossing the border in dangerous ways and employers will continue exploiting workers.
“We can create a system in which you have . . . an orderly process for people to come in, but we’re also giving an opportunity for those who are already in the United States to be able to achieve a pathway to citizenship so that they don’t have to live in the shadows,” Obama said during an hour-long news conference at the Cabañas Cultural Center in downtown Guadalajara. “Am I going to be able to snap my fingers and get this done? No. This is going to be difficult.”
The president said he expects draft legislation and sponsors by the end of the year, but no action until 2010 because of more pressing issues, including health-care reform, energy legislation and financial regulatory changes.
In a way, I have to admire the genius of this strategy. In fact, it might be exactly what Obama and the Democrats need in 2010 to rescue themselves from what looks like a disastrous midterm election, although I doubt it will be enough.
Until now, Obama has played on his own field, in a sense. Imposing government control on the health-care and energy industries always had more risk for Democrats and opportunities for unity for the GOP. Obama clearly underestimated how badly ObamaCare would split his party, and I’d bet he got surprised by the Senate’s decision to table cap-and-trade this summer as well. Still, Obama had to know that these issues would create at least some ideological and regional tensions (especially the latter on cap-and-trade) before launching full-court presses to get both passed quickly this summer.
If Obama takes up immigration reform in 2010, he turns the tables. While the Democrats don’t exactly have unity on this issue — there will be some Blue Dog and regional resistance to any amnesty program — it splits the GOP as badly as cap-and-trade splits the Democrats. In 2006 and 2007, Democrats had a much more unified approach to the issue, while Republicans fractured. If Obama can recreate 2006-7 in 2010, he can sap the enthusiasm for Republican election efforts that have built in 2009, solidify his hold on the Hispanic vote, and create enough disarray to hold majorities in both chambers of Congress. Whether a bill actually gets passed will be immaterial, or at least secondary, to the electoral strategy.
Can Republicans keep from splitting on immigration reform? One strategy would be to keep ObamaCare and cap-and-trade from passing until 2010. Obama would either have to abandon one or both of those to get to immigration reform, or he would have to let immigration reform slip to 2011 or beyond. Another strategy, made easier with George Bush out of the way, would be to insist on a borders-first approach that delays the consideration of tougher questions about how to deal with the millions of illegal immigrants already in the country. In 2007, even the reform advocates in the GOP had to agree to that approach in the face of withering criticism not unlike what we see today from the ObamaCare debate. Some Democrats, especially the Blue Dogs worrying about their chances for re-election, will want to follow that same approach, which would make moving anything else significant in 2010 almost impossible.
In the end, the Blue Dogs will not follow where Obama leads, which is why this strategy — while intriguing and bold — will probably fail. Most of them represent conservative districts, and most of them had to pledge to oppose amnesty in order to replace Republicans who had represented the districts before 2006. They can’t vote for amnesty in the summer and expect to return to Washington in the winter. But even if it stalls, the infighting among Republicans could do enough damage to keep the House in Democratic hands for another session.
Update: Jim Geraghty: “Boy, if you’re a Blue Dog, you must just love this administration right about now.”









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They are proposing greenhouse gas reductions AND importing more poverty class laborers? That doesn’t make any sense.
What kind of work are these people, and the illegals who are already here, going to make a living with? It will certainly involve the burning of fuel and these people contribute a carbon footprint outside their employment as well. Much moreso than they would otherwise make back in their old countries.
It just proves that their claim of wanting to reduce America’s carbon footprint is not their true agenda with all the greenhouse legislation.
Buddahpundit on August 11, 2009 at 11:35 AM
That’s great, then we can see our tax rates soar to support the 100 “immigrants” standing ahead of us in line, in order to receive “free” health care.
NoDonkey on August 11, 2009 at 11:35 AM
This isn’t about elected officials. This is about the American people suffering under the massive influx of illegals. Unless you are living in a community that is neck deep in illegals, I don’t care what you think. All the wannabe Repubs can be for a debate all they want. I am telling you that the Amercan people will not stand for this. It will be the shot heard round the world again, fighting will break out.
TXMomof3 on August 11, 2009 at 11:36 AM
They’re just here to vote for Democrats, what difference does it make how or if they make a living?
If they’re able to vote Democrats in, the taxpayers will support them.
An easy and effective plan.
NoDonkey on August 11, 2009 at 11:36 AM
I live in Hamilton County in Indiana. While I do not live in the most affluent city, we live in a run-of-the-mill middle-class city. Since I have moved here 6 years ago, I have seen a 5 Mexican restaurants spring up (primarily with Spanish speaking employees), a Mexican grocery and butcher (advertises only in Spanish). There are 5 elementary schools in our district, one middle school and one high school. Each school has an ESL program. My daughter’s school has the highest proportion of ESL students. Consequently, the school scored the lowest on the state education assessment exams. Also, her school has the highest proportion of students receiving free or reduced lunch in the district. Coincidence?
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on August 11, 2009 at 11:36 AM
Hopefully in 2010 he won’t have a house or Senate that will roll over for him.
Tommy_G on August 11, 2009 at 11:37 AM
Yep. It might well come to that.
progressoverpeace on August 11, 2009 at 11:37 AM
Oh no! Let’s drop everything and fight him on immigration!
Sorry Mr. Sotoero, but rising unemployement makes immigration reform a dead issue.
Nice try ya hose bag.
Akzed on August 11, 2009 at 11:38 AM
Aren’t something like 70% of Americans against this? Is this government ‘by, for, and of the people any more?’
ThackerAgency on August 11, 2009 at 11:38 AM
I’m getting the sense that the nation truly is about to have a war over its very soul.
Case in point, MSNBC just showed pictures of a man wearing a gun outside the venue where the filthy liar is about to have his first staged town hall. Apparently it is legal to do so yet the MSNBC host decided to opine on why they didn’t get a court order to block such an act before the filthy liar arrives. Disgusting.
highhopes on August 11, 2009 at 11:38 AM
If we are going to do immigration reform, I want more ASIAN immigrants.
ThackerAgency on August 11, 2009 at 11:39 AM
The tide has already turned on Obama and if more Americans have awaken now than in 2006 to understand what this party is doing I don’t see how they can suddenly go back to sleep when they’re told to shut up once again to allow Congress and the President to grant American Citizenship on those who jumped to the head of the line illegally.
If Obama goes through with Amnesty right after this battle for Health Care, it won’t be his Waterloo it will be his Saint Helena.
smfoushee on August 11, 2009 at 11:39 AM
Me rove you rong time?
/sarc
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on August 11, 2009 at 11:40 AM
Welcome the invaders.
Johan Klaus on August 11, 2009 at 11:40 AM
“…in dangerous ways…”? Meaning what, dangerous to them?
Wait until we install a f*g minefield from San Ysidro to the Gulf in 2013.
Akzed on August 11, 2009 at 11:41 AM
That plays well in Guadalajara. But how will it play in Gringoland?
Steve Z on August 11, 2009 at 11:41 AM
One divisive matter after another. If Obamacare goes down we’ll be fighting a new battle in 2010 over illegals (it’s not about immigration in my eyes but illegals, though the Dems have framed the debate and given it a name). Then Obamacare will come back for 2011.
I don’t know what might come after that from this Administration or the Dems, but I see constant turmoil for years to come if not open rebellion, or civil war, and/or secession of some states.
If Obama and the Dems want to cripple this country one way or other, they’re on the way to doing it.
Liam on August 11, 2009 at 11:41 AM
I think it’s closer to 80%. This is the one issue even more than health care that is truly non-partisan. Nobody wants amnesty. Obama would have to be insane to try to push this. Even if he gets Obamacare and crap-and-betrayed passed, he’ll have no political capital left.
Doughboy on August 11, 2009 at 11:42 AM
If you admire this, Ed, you’re really going to love it when he pushes this country to a full-blown race war, in order to deflect attention from whatever America-killing policy is being pushed back against. You probably don’t believe me, even though the evidence has been out in the open over and over.
The Precedent just wants this nation to burn and he is going to do everything his pea-brain can come up with.
progressoverpeace on August 11, 2009 at 11:42 AM
Me too. They work hard and they don’t have 75 welfare kids. Rude, I know, but true.
TXMomof3 on August 11, 2009 at 11:43 AM
But think of all the smart Latinas we’d be missing out on!
Shy Guy on August 11, 2009 at 11:43 AM
Amazing. Reading what you wrote about the restaurants, schools, grocery stores, and the ESL programs, I could easily have mistaken your town for mine.
VibrioCocci on August 11, 2009 at 11:43 AM
NSPD-51, baby. That way He can go for ultimate control.
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on August 11, 2009 at 11:43 AM
Obama’s whole strategy so far has been to divide America. This is no surprise, coming from the Uniter Messiah.
We don’t really have a strategy for this, nor do we have Soros’ and Lewis’ billions to fund us.
Right is might.
eaglesdontflock on August 11, 2009 at 11:44 AM
FIFY.
Shy Guy on August 11, 2009 at 11:45 AM
+100
I have had Asian employees (Chinese and Indian) with amazing analytical capabilities, who rot in the immigration system for ten or more years waiting for a green card, while people who never paid taxes keep asking for a free pass. It’s insane.
One of the main reasons why the wait time is long (for Indians and Chinese) is because of the so-called “per country quota”, which is a blatant attempt to disregard personal merit in the immigrant screening process.
peter_griffin on August 11, 2009 at 11:46 AM
Same here in Tejas. I have three children in school, they sing Christmas (Oops, Holiday) songs in Spanish at our programs.
TXMomof3 on August 11, 2009 at 11:46 AM
Immigration Reform motto:
Free Hot Asian Women for Everyone!
Pelayo the Younger
Pelayo on August 11, 2009 at 11:47 AM
If we had spent all of the stimulus money on building a wall along the southern border, it would have been a long-term investment against the ballooning costs of welfare for illegals.
ZJPolitical on August 11, 2009 at 11:47 AM
What if I don’t want one?
TXMomof3 on August 11, 2009 at 11:48 AM
NOte to the GOP: now is when you start running ads on this subject, not after the left has sunk their claw into it and shaped the debate.
Health care, Global warming, and immigration would be so easy to create propaganda for OUR side to win. Its like the GOP doesn’t want to win. It’s always our pundits and and people that do the heavy lifting and GOP and their candidates step in after the coast is clear…
?
Ed Graef on August 11, 2009 at 11:48 AM
……And this sh*t stick failed to mention the US Border Patrol Agent that was shot and killed by these criminal invaders OR the US Border Patrol Agent that was run down and murdered by other criminal invaders……
Hate does not begin to explain what I feel about this waste of skin. He will fail and it will be EPIC!
He does not study history….2007, with a good ecomony, amnesty was defeated.
2010, with a failing economy and the taste of 2009 still fresh……amnesty will be the fuse that begins revolution.
Bring it, sh*t stick. You will fail!
HornetSting on August 11, 2009 at 11:48 AM
I always thought that that was being saved for the ultimate destruction of the dollar, after the anti-competitive, anti-growth, enviro-wacko regulations strangle a country so burdened with debt and obligations that the whole monetary system comes crashing down. But, The Precedent wants to make sure that he inflicts intense pain on us before that, and he knows that the military might well not listen to him when push comes to shove. The Precedent wants to get a thousand cuts in first … “social justice”, and then he’ll be ready to go for it all.
progressoverpeace on August 11, 2009 at 11:49 AM
Then can I have yours?
Pelayo the Younger
Pelayo on August 11, 2009 at 11:49 AM
Sure, and my husband’s too. Talk about war on the homefront.
TXMomof3 on August 11, 2009 at 11:50 AM
TXMomof3 on August 11, 2009 at 11:09 AM
..and then have him compare and contrast Texas with California with respect to state budget deficits. We here in the Golden State have let both our liberal policies and illegal immigration problem overwhelm us to the point where we have a budget deficit greater than the rest of the 50 (or 57) states combined.
VoyskaPVO on August 11, 2009 at 11:51 AM
My sons wife has been trying to get a job for several months. Her mother is ( legal ) Mexican, but my sons wife does not speak Spanish. Hence, no one in Houston seems to want to hire someone who does not speak Spanish. Coming to an area near you soon…….
Johan Klaus on August 11, 2009 at 11:51 AM
Lord, please help us all. I know ya’ll are suffering, too.
TXMomof3 on August 11, 2009 at 11:53 AM
Sorry for sounding uptight, but there may be Asian women on this blog (or associated to this blog) who can find this statement somewhat distasteful (if not downright sexist).
peter_griffin on August 11, 2009 at 11:55 AM
What sort of job is she looking for? I live in H-Town and nearly everyone I know doesn’t speak Spanish.
Doughboy on August 11, 2009 at 11:55 AM
Which part? Lived in Houston for a few years myself since my wife was in the oil & gas sector.
peter_griffin on August 11, 2009 at 11:57 AM
I think “reform” has become a code word for “socialism”.
LibTired on August 11, 2009 at 11:59 AM
Aww, but I wanted change now!
Grafted on August 11, 2009 at 12:00 PM
Yes, it seems the lines are forming in the Republican party similar to the previous shamnesty bill (here in Texas, at least). It seems that Senator Cornyn is taking the same stance that he did at the beginning of the bill last time (bottom line – in support of amnesty), but because his constituents melted his phone and fax lines in opposition, he changed his position and voted against it. I was hoping that he had learned from the last experience, but UNBELIEVABLY, he has not. So once again – instead of spending time that should be devoted to work, I will be writing, calling, faxing his offices to express my views, and will be receiving the same form letter responses and same “I will pass your concerns on to the Senator”, and I am furious.— And this is in TEXAS.(a conservative state, and a border one). Only wish the Republicans could stand united on this issue at the beginning of the process. Hey, but I’m ready to roll up my sleeves once more and fight for this country (been doing a lot of that lately haven’t we). How ’bout it?
texasaggie on August 11, 2009 at 12:01 PM
So, we fix the open and porous borders. Will that even stop illegal immgration? The answer is no, because of Visa overstays.
The expected promise of a future amnesty will always be an incentive for people to overstays their visas.
Nearly half of all illegalsare visa overstays, just like the September 11 terrorists.
ColtsFan on August 11, 2009 at 12:01 PM
We need to stop Amnesty and we need to stop the federal government providing incentives for tens of millions to break our laws.
ColtsFan on August 11, 2009 at 12:02 PM
I don’t think the Republicans will be split this time.
2008 5% unemployment
2009 10% unemployment
Even Hoyer could be at risk if the Democrats push pathway to citizenship. He has a lot of Blacks in his district and unemployment is hurting them worse than Whites.
jeannie on August 11, 2009 at 12:03 PM
We will set up a credit trading system where you can sell your hot asian woman for a credit to purchase a hot swedish blonde.
The trading mechanism will be called Jap-and-Trade.
BPD on August 11, 2009 at 12:04 PM
Well at least this will continue stimulate the t-shirt, bumper sticker, etc. industry.
Trinkets that stick it to Obama start to sell
Cashing in on ‘No, he can’t’
LOVE the photo with the article.
Brat on August 11, 2009 at 12:05 PM
Doing amnesty in 2010 would only ensure he lose both houses of congress.
Obama is already a lame duck.
wildcat84 on August 11, 2009 at 12:06 PM
Is he delaying this because of the Census?
Jason58 on August 11, 2009 at 12:07 PM
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204908604574332950796281832.html
This is currently below the radar but when it hits the fan the current “boorishness” is going to seem like a picnic.
The GOP is out largely because it backed “amnista” despite the clear demands of its electorate. If it continues to do so– and enables Democrat fraud in Congressional seating and Electoral College apportionment–then it will do more damage than good, and either is beheaded and remade, or supplanted by an honest 3rd party.
Chris_Balsz on August 11, 2009 at 12:08 PM
I’ll take your yours. Mine is already getting homesick. I think a sister will make her feel better.
TMK on August 11, 2009 at 12:10 PM
In the sense that all he wants to do is kill the US. Gee, tough one.
The Precedent doesn’t care. He doesn’t care about Democrats. He doesn’t care about getting re-elected. He doesn’t care about any of this stuff. And he knows that the media will back him no matter what he does.
He didn’t care about this, either. He just pulled out another America-killing program and started ramping that up. If that doesn’t get through, he’ll just pull out another one. He doesn’t give a sh!t, one way or another. He’s got a thousand America-killing ideas (they’re easy to find and get his lackeys to think up) and will just move from one to another until something finally gets through or the US is torn apart in the process.
This is a very simple-minded guy – The Precedent. A simple mind and tons of hate.
He loves tension. He wants to see Americans in pain and frustrated. He wants to see Americans fighting each other. How can you look at what he’s been doing and not understand this?
progressoverpeace on August 11, 2009 at 12:11 PM
Well, well, if we Republicans had gotten behind Bush’s Guest Worker program, we wouldn’t be facing this tactic. Now, if Obama plays his cards right, we’ll end up with some shit sandwich that will make us wish we had supported Guest Worker.
Kafir on August 11, 2009 at 12:11 PM
Stereotype much? I guess all Asians are smart and good at math. You need to get out of Texas more. Pathetic.
Grow Fins on August 11, 2009 at 12:12 PM
If you had forcibly deported 10 million people you wouldn’t be in this mess either. Gonna regret not doing that?
Chris_Balsz on August 11, 2009 at 12:13 PM
Amen, sister! (Dallas here)
mrsmwp on August 11, 2009 at 12:13 PM
Wrong.
The problem with illegal aliens comes down to nothing but serious interior enforcement. That is it. Everything else is meaningless without the power and drive to deny illegals access to ANYTHING, other than picking them up and deporting them.
progressoverpeace on August 11, 2009 at 12:14 PM
I escaped Dallas about five years ago…don’t I know it.
TXMomof3 on August 11, 2009 at 12:17 PM
It will be a hot button issue with unemployment high. The congress people of both parties will be voted out if they swupport any type of “immigration reform” that gives the huge numbers of illegals here citizenships.
There are no jobs left that American will not do and there are many Americans hungry for a job that an illegal would vacate if sent back to wherever they came from.
ORconservative on August 11, 2009 at 12:18 PM
Hamilton County – Hispanic or Latino (of any race) 6,815 2.7%
Dallas – Hispanic or Latino (of any race) 503,269 42.4%
With Dallas’ hispanic population conservatively estimated to be over 50% illegal, can you imagine the aggravation we face on a daily basis? You are only at 2.7% (as of the 2006 community survey census) and already your area has to pander to them.
mrsmwp on August 11, 2009 at 12:22 PM
Dream on. The Asians will take the good jobs! We can’t have that! The libs and the Vichy Repubs only want the dregs that they can enslave.
mrsmwp on August 11, 2009 at 12:25 PM
Crazy like a Fox? Predictable is more like it. 2008: Lie to moderates. 2010: Import new idiots.
alliebobbitt on August 11, 2009 at 12:26 PM
Good to see you out from under obama’s desk……
HornetSting on August 11, 2009 at 12:26 PM
Illegals are everywhere. They’re like cock roaches. Very hard to kill off. People pretend like they’re an asset to our communities, but they arev nothing but another set of leeches.
Jeff from WI on August 11, 2009 at 12:27 PM
I work near the Galleria area. I live in Katy now.
Doughboy on August 11, 2009 at 12:33 PM
Cool. I lived near downtown (River Oaks) . I still visit Houston once in a while for business reasons. I used to wish there were more things to do in the weekend (other than the awesome food scene, that is).
peter_griffin on August 11, 2009 at 12:39 PM
What could go wrong?
D2Boston on August 11, 2009 at 12:46 PM
The problem with interior enforcement is that illegals have been trained to “work the system”. Once they are on USA soil, they have “anchor babies” in order to stay in the USA.
My friend in our local hospital’s Maternity center treats many illegals on a daily basis. She states that these patients do not speak English, and they present Identification cards from Honduras, Guatamala (and of course, Mexico). Their hospital care and treatment program is funded by USA taxpayers.
Personally, I don’t see illegal immigration going away.
The only reason illegal immigration is a “hot topic” now is because the Midwest and the South are now experiencing the negative effects of the wave of lawlessness and anarchy that results from people having
no respect for the laws of a country.
The Southwest is already seeing effects of Balkanization.
ColtsFan on August 11, 2009 at 12:47 PM
RE: Amnesty for Hot Asian Women Thread
I totally agree and full citizenship should be automatic. But… we should define “Hot”.
On a scale of 1 to 10, with 10 being Michelle, i.e., The Boss, and a 1 being, say, Yoko Ono, I suggest amnesty for 8 or above.
TXUS on August 11, 2009 at 12:57 PM
In an ironic twist, the economy will be in such shambles by next year that millions of illegals will have already self-deported.
It has already started. From USA TODAY:
EL PASO — The number of people caught trying to sneak into the USA from Mexico is at its lowest level since the mid-1970s, signs of tougher enforcement and a weaker U.S. economy, officials say.
The Border Patrol caught 705,000 people along the U.S.-Mexico border in fiscal year 2008, which ended Sept. 30, according to new agency figures. That’s nearly 2,000 a day and the lowest number since 1976, when 675,000 people were caught entering illegally between San Diego and southern Texas, the figures show.
angryed on August 11, 2009 at 12:57 PM
Having anchor babies still doesn’t extend any illegals the right to stay in the US, nor does it grant any other rights to the illegal parents.
My point is that nothing will work without strong and serious interior enforcement. All else is but a distraction. Whether we can get our government to defend US sovereignty is the ultimate question, but there is no point discussing any “solutions” unless the first, and foremost, is denying all services to illegals and deporting them as we find them, since nothing ever will stop the US from filling up with illegals time and time again.
progressoverpeace on August 11, 2009 at 12:57 PM
“If we are going to do immigration reform, I want more ASIAN immigrants.”
ThackerAgency on August 11, 2009 at 11:39 AM
**Sorry but “the One” just earmarked $20 million of our taxpayer dollars to re-locate Palestinians to this country. That news slid under the radar didn’t it?
hopefloats on August 11, 2009 at 1:01 PM
I am already 150% in agreement with you. The law is the law. Right is right, and wrong is wrong.
I am in agreement 200% with ya.
But because of the reason I mentioned earlier, our side gets unfairly labelled as “racist” or seen as breaking up families.
My earlier post should be seen mainly as my frustration that Ed is right: the GOP will be fractured between the “2 Americas:”
the America that does not see the negative effects of illegal immigration, social security theft, high rates of illegitimacy and single motherhood, etc.
and the America that does see these negative effects because we live close to the zip code.
ColtsFan on August 11, 2009 at 1:06 PM
How about avoiding tensions with AMERICAN CITIZENS?
redfoxbluestate on August 11, 2009 at 1:06 PM
And designate 24-7-365 freefire zones for armed UAV’s with infrared vision, keeping enough lanes clear for legitimate traffic commercial and otherwise.
And stock the Rio Grande with piranhas.
Hey – we can dream, can’t we?
Dark-Star on August 11, 2009 at 1:10 PM
I prefer more European and Eastern European immigrants. They’ve lived under socialism and know it sucks.
They’re also highly-educated; most speak English and can be productive citizens from day one.
My wife came here from Russia, where she was a doctor. She went to an Ivy League dental school and now pays enough taxes to support provide benefits to a couple of dozen illegal-immigrant families.
And if she ever manages to get through the naturalization backlog, she’ll vote for conservative candidates.
guntotinglibertarian on August 11, 2009 at 1:14 PM
It all depends on what the economy is doing. If we’re still bleeding jobs, then THAT will be the GOP’s basis for opposing amnesty and open borders dressed up as immigration reform. The dems are in dangerous territory here. People who have been out of work for going on two or more years are not going to be moved by sad tales of industrious immigrants who just want to come here “to work and feed their families.”
If the GOP focuses their opposition on this issue as being about jobs for Americans who are hurting, they win.
Rational Thought on August 11, 2009 at 1:16 PM
Not to mention the insane “diversity lottery” that gives 50,000 green cards each year to 3rd World immigrants – overwhelmingly from Muslim countries.
guntotinglibertarian on August 11, 2009 at 1:17 PM
I was well aware, ColtsFan. I just wanted to explain my position in more detail.
I know. We just have to accept that and push past. They are going to smear us, no matter what.
Americans have lost much of the appreciation for American citizenship that they should have. They take their citizenship for granted and don’t really understand how valuable it is and how much better it is than all the other citizenships in the world. The answer to this is to disallow dual citizenship and to give Americans full rights over their citizenship, which includes the right to sell their citizenship (subject to the same restrictions on buyers that we currently have for immigrants) if they decide that they don’t want to be American anymore. The fact is that American citizenship would be worth hundreds of thousands of dollars (seeing how much people pay for fake papers and to sneak illegally into our nation) and if Americans could see, in dollar terms, what their citizenship was worth, then they would start to appreciate the notion of national sovereignty once again. The people would also react to amnesty ideas, that would flood the market with newly printed American citizenships and kill the value of theirs (which would be the biggest asset that many Americans would have). ALoowing this citizenship market would also put the lie to the idea that there are any really poor Americans, since they would be able to sell their citizenship for a good wad and start out anew elsewhere in the world, if they so desired.
I know that this won’t happen, but this is the solution to the problem that Americans don’t appreciate the value of soveriegnty or American citizenship.
progressoverpeace on August 11, 2009 at 1:25 PM
I’m sure somebody said this already, but can’t read all the comments now. With the admin. admitting to an unemp. rate nearly 10%(not counting those who gave up), and far worse in certain states and minority communities, I wonder if the Dem’s have the support for amnesty they once did. I doubt it. God is having his way with the false messiah.
JiangxiDad on August 11, 2009 at 1:26 PM
Point well taken. And, if you add in the skyrocket inflation that’s going to kick in next year, I think the statists, including the Putzident, may well meet their Reckoning in 2010.
TXUS on August 11, 2009 at 1:36 PM
I don’t see the genius in this strategy. The pain of the economic recession will still be present in 2010 and the thought legalizing so many illegals, many of whom are already on social services, will not pit Republicans agaisnt Republicans and Blue Dogs against Libs but the American People against the Amnesty proponents. Now he may make a racial issue out of it (ok he will) but it is a risk that has to be taken because no way in hell can Obama be allowed to secure himself millions upon millions of new votes with the wave of a pen.
The best way for Republicans to bombat this strategy is to ignore the broader debate and focus exclusively on securing our borders. With the chaos going on cartel run border towns, this shouldn’t be too hard. Also, most RINOs who get in the way will lose in their primaries so they’ll be on board for now.
Daemonocracy on August 11, 2009 at 1:41 PM
*ughh, I hate how I can’t edit posts. I submitted the one above before I could proof read.*
I don’t see the genius in this strategy. The pain of the economic recession will still be present in 2010 and the thought of legalizing so many illegals, many of whom are already on social services, will not pit Republicans against Republicans and Blue Dogs against Liberals but the American People against the Amnesty proponents. Now he may make a racial issue out of it (ok it’s a certainty that he will) but it is a risk that has to be taken because no way in hell can Obama be allowed to secure himself millions upon millions of new votes with the wave of a pen.
The best way for Republicans to combat this strategy is to ignore the broader debate and focus exclusively on securing our borders. With the chaos going on in cartel run border towns, this shouldn’t be too hard. Also, most RINOs who get in the way will lose in their primaries so they’ll be on board for now.
Daemonocracy on August 11, 2009 at 1:44 PM
… hand in hand with the new, illegalo-philic Census of 2010. Each provides the “moral” case for the other: census numbers that include illegal aliens to “gauge the effects of legislation”, and new legislation to “deal” with a new “crisis” newly “discovered” by the Census.
Disclaimer: I’m not really sure about the Census timetable, I’m just commenting on the mutually reinforcing nature of the two undertakings. ;-)
RD on August 11, 2009 at 1:58 PM
Obama will really really need amnesty in 2010…in order to get enough voters to win in 2012…those dead people voter rolls have already been used enough to be recognized in every precinct.
And
The 2010 Census, brought to you next year by ACORN, will decide congressional districts for 2012 and beyond until the next Census…if we are still here.
coldwarrior on August 11, 2009 at 2:03 PM
Horseface buffoon!
Winebabe on August 11, 2009 at 2:09 PM
According to my Racist Birther Crypto-Nazi Astroturfing Update newsletter, Asians are good at math because they are robodroids from the future.
Oh, and good to see you are out from under Obama’s desk. Errr err err.
TMK on August 11, 2009 at 2:24 PM
Today is the first day that I have ever been threatened with actual violence. I must have really pushed the right buttons.
TXMomof3 on August 11, 2009 at 2:35 PM
I just love Allah. He is so clueless. His entire post is on the POLICTAL implications and not once did he mention that the immigration bill was defeated due to the VOTERS. 80% are against it. Period. For Obama to start a debate on immigration during an election year will make the American people have targets to defeat in Congress. Any congresscritter that supports amnesty will be ripe for a grassroots primary or genral election defeat.
unseen on August 11, 2009 at 2:36 PM
If I had a magic wand, I’d make Mexico like Japan. Asian schoolchildren are kicking our butts on international tests, they don’t demand we learn their language, and Asian immigrant families don’t spawn like guppies to scam the welfare system…unlike most Hispanic AND African-American ones.
Dark-Star on August 11, 2009 at 2:37 PM
She has given applications to UPS, FEDEX, many oil tool companies, insurance companies and oil companies.
Johan Klaus on August 11, 2009 at 2:39 PM
My husband and I work for an oil company. Under cap and trade, I worry for our future.
TXMomof3 on August 11, 2009 at 2:42 PM
Opps its an Ed post. Thought it was Allah. the should tell you something right there. when ed starts sounding like allah its not a good side to be on
unseen on August 11, 2009 at 2:47 PM
Stereotyping? No. Orientals score higher on standardized exams and IQ tests. Many of the most important human inventions have been done by orientals long before others. The only thing that has held orientals back is that their cultures tend to be very collectivist and value stability over growth. Western civilization is individualistic and growth oriented and has, because of this, outperformed others. But orientals have long shown themselves to be of high intelligence, in general. That’s just a fact.
progressoverpeace on August 11, 2009 at 2:48 PM
Yeah, the libs are good about giving threats to women. But, I doubt that he would meet this old man face to face in downtown Schulenburg.
Johan Klaus on August 11, 2009 at 3:03 PM
And all those companies require applicants to speak Spanish?
Doughboy on August 11, 2009 at 3:06 PM
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