More Obama: My plan might stop doctors from cutting off your foot
posted at 10:14 pm on August 11, 2009 by Allahpundit
Townhall’s trying to turn this into a sequel to the now-legendary tonsils soundbite from his presser a few weeks ago. I don’t think it’s that bad — he’s not accusing doctors of trying to cash in on unnecessary amputations, merely emphasizing that we need to create better incentives to address medical problems early — but it is weird that this guy keeps coming back to amputated body parts when talking about this. The two goals of ObamaCare as I understand it are making sure everyone has access to treatment generally and (giggle) reducing overall federal health-care spending. I didn’t realize there was an epidemic of people losing appendages that’s driving the urgency, but there you have it.
Oh, and as for his hosannas about preventative care: You know the drill by now.
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I (unfortunately) live in Illinois. Most of the time, Barry voted “present”… the few times that he managed to rouse himself to take a position was when he was voting to leave babies to die in linen closets. (He voted on that issue more than once, I might add….)
jana on August 11, 2009 at 11:39 PM
As we are forced to import doctors from countries that aren’t exactly friendly with America to replace the inevitable shortage that will result from Obama’s plan, it won’t be your foot you have to worry about.
xblade on August 11, 2009 at 11:40 PM
Isn’t it a great state we live in?
Rightwingguy on August 11, 2009 at 11:41 PM
canopfor on August 11, 2009 at 11:15 PM
But without toes how will he impress the cougar’s with his special dance?
FontanaConservative on August 11, 2009 at 11:20 PM
FontanaConservative: Gawd that was funny!!:)
canopfor on August 11, 2009 at 11:42 PM
Was thinking more of Frank Marshall Davis.
But, Barney will do.
He’s surely turned a new page once in a while.
coldwarrior on August 11, 2009 at 11:43 PM
If avoiding amputation isn’t incentive enough, I don’t know what is.
xblade on August 11, 2009 at 11:44 PM
Well, the weather’s nice… the politics? Not so much.
jana on August 11, 2009 at 11:45 PM
Um hum….huge?
:-)
coldwarrior on August 11, 2009 at 11:45 PM
Dear coldwarrior:
First, I shall never again click any link you post.
Second, you have been reported to the Geneva tribunal for crimes against humanity.
Loxodonta on August 11, 2009 at 11:31 PM
Loxodonta: SNITCH!!haha:)
canopfor on August 11, 2009 at 11:45 PM
The Doctors will have to cut my foot off to get it out of the ass of the Liberal who made my life so unnecessarily difficult.
THE CHOSEN ONE on August 11, 2009 at 11:45 PM
Yeah he’s bluffing. It’s a 9mm handgun
FontanaConservative on August 11, 2009 at 11:46 PM
As we are forced to import doctors from countries that aren’t exactly friendly with America to replace the inevitable shortage that will result from Obama’s plan, it won’t be your foot you have to worry about.
xblade on August 11, 2009 at 11:40 PM
xblade: Good point! Jihady Doctors of Mercy!!ahem:)
canopfor on August 11, 2009 at 11:47 PM
Nope. Ain’t gonna say it. Should, really should. But, nope, ain’t gonna say it.
Burned BB enough with the Pool Boy dance tonite. :-)
coldwarrior on August 11, 2009 at 11:47 PM
Graduates of the Allahakbar School of Preventive Medicine.
coldwarrior on August 11, 2009 at 11:49 PM
I think you burned us ALL with that pool boy dance coldwarrior.
FontanaConservative on August 11, 2009 at 11:49 PM
But your right, I’ll spare BB of any more ridicule for awhile. He’s too nice to keep dissing him :)
FontanaConservative on August 11, 2009 at 11:52 PM
More Obama: My plan might stop doctors from cutting off your foot.
.
I’ll believe that when he learns to quit shooting himself in the foot. Two words: Post Office.
dont taze me bro on August 11, 2009 at 11:54 PM
Bend his ass over and feel the Boot kicking him out of the house, and everyone else that sit’s in the wastelands.
hawkman on August 11, 2009 at 11:56 PM
This is an interesting flowchart that one of my collegues at work sent me. It’s only mildly off topic, but goes a long way towards outlining what new miles of red tape will spring from. I don’t know if it deserves a Headline spot or not, and forgive me if it’s already been featured here.
A simple plan.
DrAllecon on August 11, 2009 at 11:56 PM
Thanks. Good boy!
Loxodonta on August 11, 2009 at 11:56 PM
Halp me Barak Obamma. There’s a huge crack in my a$$!
Chuck Schick on August 12, 2009 at 12:03 AM
Are you sure you want that Barry, cause you really won’t like where I’d like to put that foot.
Fighton03 on August 12, 2009 at 12:14 AM
I was there.
Then my spouse and I went to the one (Tea Party Two) in Philadelphia the weekend after April 15. We were the only representatives from DE in that one.
Sir Napsalot on August 12, 2009 at 12:17 AM
canopfor on August 11, 2009 at 11:47 PM
Graduates of the Allahakbar School of Preventive Medicine.
coldwarrior on August 11, 2009 at 11:49 PM
coldwarrior: Yup,haha!:)
canopfor on August 12, 2009 at 12:20 AM
I refuse to actually watch the video, but everyone behind him looks pleased as a pickle to be there.
marmaran on August 12, 2009 at 12:21 AM
In 22 years in nursing, I have seen vascular surgeons bust their a$$es to save a TOE. The men and women who carry out the devastating task of amputation, after months of working to salvage an extremity, deserve better than this. I am appalled.
keebs on August 12, 2009 at 12:24 AM
I watched this today, there was fake smiling by the props and lots of it. Pathetic, orchestrated, liberal.
THE CHOSEN ONE on August 12, 2009 at 12:27 AM
oh, keebs…
Don’t take it personally. He hate *anyone* who makes any type of profit from their chose profession.
Except himself, of course.
Having someone else write a book for you is a perfectly acceptable way to make money.
Saving extremities is not.
jana on August 12, 2009 at 12:28 AM
I don’t normally quote Rush but he had one really great point yesterday. Obama keeps saying “My Plan does this.” “My plan won’t do that.” He has no plan. House 3200 is not his, it’s Waxman’s. There’s four plans in the Senate. Obama hasn’t put forward any plan of his design. When will someone besides Rush Limbaugh mention this fact.
xkaydet65 on August 12, 2009 at 12:42 AM
you just got to understand, that’s all.
Emperor Obama (Obama the Unclothed) has no use for that Separation of Powers thing in that old Constitution, or something or nuther, that was written all those long years ago by a bunch of angry old White guys.
coldwarrior on August 12, 2009 at 12:47 AM
When Obama practices medicine, people are sure to die. What the hell does he think? That people with diabetes are not already taught about the effects of the disease and how to take care of themselves? Does he believe the rainbows shooting out of his a$$ will prevent diabetic neuropathy?
Jeesh! This guy is such an idiot. If anyone else said an iota of the nonsense he spews, the press would be all over him.
Blake on August 12, 2009 at 12:54 AM
He’s wrong, too. The doctor treating you is not the surgeon. And amputations are not fancy operations — they just saw it off. So, surgeons don’t make a lot of money off them, either.
I hate this guy.
Blake on August 12, 2009 at 12:59 AM
The statist scare tactics are back with a vengeance.
The Dean on August 12, 2009 at 1:01 AM
That’s good that I’ll get to keep my foot. I’m thinking of a particular use for it right now.
macummings on August 12, 2009 at 1:02 AM
I am amazed how the Democrats have totally miscalculated America. The American soul we have long known is still alive and kicking, it is not dead yet. People are outraged at what is going on and the Democrats are not listening.
This is because of Astroturfing. It has blurred the lines between real honest to god grassroots Dissent and manufacutred outrage. Unless something changes, it may very well get worse.
Obama, with his victory and his support, could do some real good instead of wasting it away for Democrat special interests and ideology. Imagine if he, from the very beginning, announced it was his intention to create the free-market environment that freed people from government reliance? Imagine if he sought to install social programs whose intent was to teach people how to be self-sufficient (these sort of programs are absent). He could go down within the Top 10 Presidents of all time at the very least. Ironically, this would be Hope and Change.
Instead, we see Obama and his Administration for what he is. Ivory tower individuals raised, educated and schooled in an echo chamber singing to the Liberal Choir without dissenting opinion to be heard. And then ran a campaign where Speeches, soundbytes, presentation and spin mattered more than Policy, Ideas and Truth. A campaign that did not end in November but continues to this day. Hope and Change to them means a continuation of the last 70+ years of Democrat government. Who would’ve known, Hope and Change means More of the Same.
What we see here is not a Presidency in touch with the people because they have fooled themselves all these years. What we see instead is a disaster of miscalculation, self-delusion, grandiose thinking not in touch with reality and too much HOPE.
Pelayo the Younger
Pelayo on August 12, 2009 at 1:04 AM
Well Big Tonsil does need Big Feet, so they have things to insert into mouths.
lorien1973 on August 12, 2009 at 1:13 AM
What if those damn greedy doctors cut off your foot and graft it to your tonsils, to get more money?
That’s the kind of thing that you won’t have to worry about with Obamacare!
TexasJew on August 12, 2009 at 1:14 AM
I bet this blathering jerkoff hasn’t taken a science course since High School biology.
Do frogs have tonsils?
TexasJew on August 12, 2009 at 1:16 AM
Those eeevil doctors!
I hope the dumbasses who run the AMA are hiding under their desks from their pissed-off members.
Maybe they can rent an anonymous room with the other clowns from the AARP, to avoid the lynch mobs that are looking for both of them.
TexasJew on August 12, 2009 at 1:20 AM
As a former resident of Southern IL, let me say my honest opinion.
It sucks.
It sounds like with this latest round of Obamateurisms that he’s really grasping for straws on this one.
Chaz706 on August 12, 2009 at 1:40 AM
Some people say he’s smart. I think he smoked too much weed. I think he’s dumber than a box of rocks. A talking box of rocks. With a teleprompter.
Griz on August 12, 2009 at 3:26 AM
Seven months in and this guy has offended almost everyone. Is he really that stupid? Maybe just that socialist/Marxist.
adamsmith on August 12, 2009 at 4:30 AM
So…in order to save money, he’s going to make preventative measures more expensive to whomever eventually pays for it?
James on August 12, 2009 at 4:42 AM
HEP US OBAMMA WE R STUK IN AMERICCA WITH NO TONSILS & ONE FOOT
inviolet on August 12, 2009 at 6:06 AM
When you think about it, not so surprising that someone who learned politics via The Chicago Way ™ talks this way. Don’t mobsters always allude to amputated body parts when issuing veiled (or not so veiled) threats?
inviolet on August 12, 2009 at 6:09 AM
Oh, in case anyone thinks I’m calling Obama a mobster:
inviolet on August 12, 2009 at 6:10 AM
Wow, I look at my feet in a whole new way now that he puts it that way.
Just think, in 4 years if Obama had not been elected, we’d all be walking around on stubs.
He must be out savior.
TheSitRep on August 12, 2009 at 6:41 AM
Did anyone tell Obama that the doctorate he got at Notre Dame was just honorary?
Wethal on August 12, 2009 at 6:47 AM
What a stupid bit of logic.One doctor is a general practitioner and does not do anything as complicated, or has as big of a potential of a law suit as a surgeon.
It’s like saying the guy who washes your car in a car wash is as valuable as the mechanic that just replaced a head gasket.
Jeff from WI on August 12, 2009 at 6:59 AM
They’re not being treated as effectively as they could be?
Whose damned fault is that?
The PATIENT’S!
What this a**hole doesn’t have any clue about is COMPLIANCE.
EVERYONE knows how to treat diabetes to the extent it is controllable. Obamacare is NOT going to make patient more compliant than they are now.
And we’re taking off legs because we make more money????
Barack Obama is a goddam…. I can’t even find the words to express my contempt….
drjohn on August 12, 2009 at 7:10 AM
One more little detail for President Dickhead- the guy who treats diabetes is not the same guy who amputates. It does the internist no financial good to have a patient’s limb amputated.
drjohn on August 12, 2009 at 7:15 AM
There is no financial benefit to the internist to have a patient’s limb amputated.
Barack Obama is demonizing physicians and it is cretinous.
drjohn on August 12, 2009 at 7:17 AM
Sorry about the double post. The second did not appear from the server for some time.
Am I angry?
You bet I am.
It is a miserable day for this country when a US President can lie so baldly to the country and absolutely NO ONE calls him on it.
drjohn on August 12, 2009 at 7:25 AM
Yes, but that’s not the problem. The problem is that Obama clearly believes that there are significant cost savings to be had in our existing system because doctors are doing unnecessary surgery on patients, either because they want the money or because they didn’t prevent the problem from developing ahead of time. There is some of that, but it’s a drop in the bucket compared to what we spend on health care. And if Obama the dope thinks he’s going to cut out enough of this to help fund his socialized boondoggle of a health plan he’s even stupider and more delusional than I thought he was.
eyedoc on August 12, 2009 at 7:25 AM
You can definitely tell he voted present.He does not know what the heck he is talking about!
ohiobabe on August 12, 2009 at 7:41 AM
His plan might stop doctors from cutting off your foot but it wont keep him from sticking his own in his mouth.
Beto Ochoa on August 12, 2009 at 7:45 AM
Why couldn’t have Obama run on a platform of mandating a uniform grass height, or championing electronic tax returns, or something else besides the systematic dismantling of our freedoms?
gatorboy on August 12, 2009 at 8:04 AM
Ogabe knows that he can chew up and spit out lefty organizations like the AMA and AARP and they will whimper but stay solidly in his corner and keep sending their campaign cash. They have sold their souls to progressivism/liberalism and cannot now claim independence of thought. Once bought, you stay bought. Shut up and get back to your envelope-stuffing table.
SKYFOX on August 12, 2009 at 8:08 AM
Obama was out on the stump today. For the health of America, he needs to crawl back under the rock he came from.
Friendly21 on August 12, 2009 at 8:17 AM
Tune in next week, when Obama says “support healthcare before some doctor chops your mother’s head off!”
hawksruleva on August 12, 2009 at 8:20 AM
What a flaming idiot! The primary care physician makes NOTHING on an amputation, that the surgeon’s rice bowl. A primary care physician today LOSES income in this event, because it all then gets turned over to specialists. The primary care physician makes his ‘pittance’ only as long as the patient is stable(since Obama hasn’t paid for his own healthcare for a very long time, he doesn’t know how large that ‘pittance’ really is).
Even his attempts at painting doctors as money-grubbing vultures can’t follow any sort of logic thread, even based on his massively false assumptions.
michaelo on August 12, 2009 at 8:23 AM
You must realize that Obama has a purpose for burning down the American Empire; He needs the smoke to blow up some body’s butt.
Cybergeezer on August 12, 2009 at 8:35 AM
The problem with Obama is that he sees the entire world through the lens of Marxism. He leaves no room for the good among men, constantly accusing them of darkness that must be regulated.
Osis on August 12, 2009 at 8:37 AM
Regarding the healthcare takeover, Camille Paglia has just dropped a cluster of bombs on Obama, his administrators, and Nancy Pelosi.
http://www.salon.com/opinion/paglia/2009/08/12/town_halls/
The big winner is Sarah Palin.
Kralizec on August 12, 2009 at 8:37 AM
jana, rightwingguy
I’ve change our state motto from “Land of Lincoln” to “higher taxes-less freedom”.
*hiss*
Barb in the south ‘burbs.
annoyinglittletwerp on August 12, 2009 at 8:48 AM
Obama’s a medical expert now?
roasted7 on August 12, 2009 at 8:55 AM
Michael Ramirez at IBD had an excellent cartoon deconstructing the myth of 47M Americans without health care insurance. Obama has to know that this is untrue; will any MSM clone put this quesion to Gibbs or the O?
motionview on August 12, 2009 at 9:08 AM
Leading cause of death in America: heart disease. Leading cause of heart disease: unhealthy lifestyle. The quickest way to reduce healthcare spending in America would be for us to get off our lazy bums and exercise 30 minutes a day and quit eating so much junk. Of course, this is based on the idea of personal responsibility, which is like venom to the left. Personally, if you want to eat, drink and smoke yourself to death, then I won’t stop you. But please don’t ask me to pay your doctor bill. Surely most people know ObamaCare is really about PeopleControl.
j_galt on August 12, 2009 at 9:22 AM
he’s not accusing doctors of trying to cash in on unnecessary amputations, merely emphasizing that we need to create better incentives to address medical problems early
Yeah right, like the tonsils comment eh? Just another act in the magical demonization tour.
The PCPs promoting prevention (or pushing the pill for the inflamed tonsils) are different from the surgeons chopping off various body parts for profit. How the PCPs benefit just isn’t clear at all. But does seem to be another bit of evidence that no one in the District seems to be encumbered by the thought process.
gonegaltinstl on August 12, 2009 at 9:26 AM
An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. I guess from all the medical professionals here on dumbAir believe preventive medicine should not be stressed. Once again in your effort to make one person seem stupid it only shows you as the stupid ones.
jero_jones on August 12, 2009 at 9:27 AM
Nope this is just like his tonsil gaffe. The implication is the same: demonize those who make the most money.
Surgeons can you hear me?? You’re a target.
xax on August 12, 2009 at 9:28 AM
Hi, and thanks for letting me on board. I watched the video clip three times. In fact, I may be the only one to thinks so, but I did get the impression – as with the prior tonsils reference – that Obama was once again saying that doctors actually choose amputations over lesser paying preventative care. I think the reason it sounds likes he’s ‘not serious,’ is because we – the viewers – just cannot believe Obama would believe that physicians actually perform amputations to increase payment rather choosing to perform less lucrative preventative care. It’s just ‘too crass’ to believe a president actually thinks that way. But I, for one, believe he meant it as a real example.
Jim Anderson on August 12, 2009 at 9:30 AM
I am a surgeon that specializes in Diabetics. I am offended.
20 years ago, you got paid well for surgery. (not that well).
Now everytime I work in the OR instead of my office I LOSE money. I work very hard to save the legs of diabetics and usually do. If a leg gets amputated, we get paid about $600 and that includes three months of free post op care. Just shows how ignorant and out of touch Obama is.
Redglen on August 12, 2009 at 9:31 AM
As the daughter of a physician, I am getting more and more disgusted watching the President of the United States demonizing doctors. Doctors are not the reason our health care costs are out of control! Too much government and too much litigation are the reasons! Doctors just want to be left alone to do their jobs, which they do damn well in this country.
rockmom on August 12, 2009 at 9:35 AM
An ounce of prevention doesn’t mean crap if you got cancer. Prevention doesn’t mean anything if the disease is genetic. Prevention won’t work too well if people choose not to follow it.
Prevention is already done, but it’s not foolproof. Sometimes the disease progresses so badly it needs drastic action. Prevention isn’t going to save any significant amount of money. Period. So he’s barking up the wrong tree.
However like I said, Mr. Doctor seems to be hanging onto to his same old tune: demonize those who make money. That’s his MO.
xax on August 12, 2009 at 9:37 AM
rockmom on August 12, 2009 at 9:38 AM
He is willing to say ANYTHING, ANYTHING to increase his power.
I’ve never seen anything like it.
Nothing is too outrageous for this con man.
He’ll soon be declaring that insurance companies eat babies to increase their profits.
notagool on August 12, 2009 at 9:50 AM
I take issue with the photograph used to highlight this thread. Weren’t we told during the 2008 campaign that showing Obama in the company of, or with white women in the background was racissst? Yet here we have a racissst photo of Pres. Obama surrounded by white women! For shame! /sarc
eaglewingz08 on August 12, 2009 at 10:02 AM
As serious as this situation is, some of the comments here have me laughing out loud. Obama is a clown.
jewells45 on August 12, 2009 at 10:22 AM
I was just going to say the same thing. I love the people on this site. (most of them, anyway) :)
So many good comments, but this absolutely cracked me up.
ROTFLMAO
God bless you all for keeping me sane.
pannw on August 12, 2009 at 10:27 AM
Maybe you can limit your comments to subjects that you might actually know something about, because as far as this subject goes, you don’t know your ass from a hole in the ground.
eyedoc on August 12, 2009 at 10:27 AM
Aaah, the troll floodgates have been opened again today.
Zero, with your first comment you’ve proven that you are intellectually outclassed here. Now STFD and STFU and maybe you’ll learn something.
UltimateBob on August 12, 2009 at 10:41 AM
I think that “blow” that Barry did during his affirmative action years at Columbia has fried his brain. I am a vascular surgeon who unfortunately does perform amputations and the current reimbursement for a below knee amputation is about $500.00 to $800.00, hardly near the 30K he reports with such authority.
When BO was elected I had some Hope that he may be an honest leader who would put the country’s interests first, but the Dope has emerged as the most crooked, deceitful, and incompetent narcissist. Health care reform is not about the patient, its about the Joker’s legacy.
IraqVet on August 12, 2009 at 10:46 AM
The end result if Obamacare passes will be what Mao accomplished…free medical care for all….
coldwarrior on August 12, 2009 at 10:54 AM
I think you are about the 4th Delawarean that I’ve come across in the Hot Air community. I won’t mention any names, to protect the innocent. :-) But if you just joined today, you’ll figure it out soon enough.
UltimateBob on August 12, 2009 at 10:55 AM
Only if people take personal responsibility for their own quality of life, and apply the preventive measures.
It’s not the government’s job to monitor a diabetic’s diet and lifestyle choices, nor is it their job to make sure the overweight person takes a 30 minute walk every day.
jana on August 12, 2009 at 11:00 AM
Oh yes he is! If he wasn’t making that link, why would he mention the cost of reimbursement? He could have said, “with proper diet and preventive care diabetes patients could have better outcomes and prevent tragic amputations”, but he specifically referred to the cost and implied that eeevil surgeons are eager to cut off limbs for cash.
But hey, I have an idea. Since Dr. Obama is such a know-it-all, how about he resign from the Presidency and take over the job of Surgeon General?
Buy Danish on August 12, 2009 at 11:10 AM
Isn’t this what the left would call “fear-mongering”? Watch out doctors will cut off your foot or rip out your tonsils for greed!!
Axeman on August 12, 2009 at 1:52 PM
Sigh…
More moronic babbling off prompter from the bafoon in chief.
I will work on one for Barney Frank and Tnsilectomeis one day, but for now, here is
HEALTHSCARE TERROR
BillaryMcBush on August 12, 2009 at 2:21 PM
As a physician, I know for sure that surgeons do not get remibursed “30, 40, or 50 thousand dollars” for an amputation. Surgeons are lucky if they are reimbursed 500 dollars or even 750 dollars. CRAZY !!
Repubmd on August 12, 2009 at 2:51 PM
There lies the crux. My wife is a doctor who has had to cut off not only someones foot but their entire leg. But it didnt start with their foot it started with one toe. and they were told what to do to not have to cut another toe off. then when they came back and another toe was cut off they were told what to do to stop from having to lose a foot. etc etc. This is the double edge of freedom. You have the right to mess up your life. Its not my responsibilty to pay for it when you do…..
CaptainObvious on August 12, 2009 at 2:59 PM
Can we amputate Obamacare now?
coldwarrior on August 12, 2009 at 3:29 PM
Our Precedent’s a two-fer: Mr Spock and Bones McCoy! Collectible action figure in stores near you soon… just in time for holiday gift giving!
ya2daup on August 12, 2009 at 3:39 PM
He continues to show his ingorance or maybe it’s just plain arrogance. Doctors never take an amputation lightly. He gives the medical field very little credit. Can someone tell me why the AMA and the Nurses are supporting him? He insults them over and over.
Grace2753 on August 12, 2009 at 3:49 PM
If they support Obama, they will be new Gauleiters, Schutzstaffel, and Sonderkommandos. They are merely looking to expand their employment options. /s
coldwarrior on August 12, 2009 at 3:57 PM
I hope President Obama takes his oath more seriously than he believes doctors do the Hippocratic.
Atom Ramsey on August 12, 2009 at 4:51 PM
If you don’t pass my Healthcare Bull, those doctors are gonna chop yer leg off.
Greedy Doctors are performing Tonsilextomies instead of giving lasenges for soar throats.
My Uncle liberated Auschwitz
Selma Alabama brought my parents together and thats how little barack was born.
No Tax increases on people making
250200175150125K a year Evah!If we don’t pass Porkulus unemployment will rise above 8.5%, if we do it won’t.
BillaryMcBush on August 12, 2009 at 6:33 PM
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