Matthews to Obama protester: Why’d you bring a loaded gun to a town hall with the president?
posted at 7:42 pm on August 11, 2009 by Allahpundit
Good question, especially given the sign this guy was carrying. Considering the lengths to which the Secret Service normally goes to investigate threats against the president, I’m amazed he wasn’t hauled in for questioning at the scene as a potential threat. People are going to beat the Second Amendment drum in the comments, but (a) I doubt it would have sat well with our readers if lefties carrying Bushitler signs had shown up to Dubya’s events packing heat and (b) having a right doesn’t mean you’re obliged to exercise it, particularly in circumstances where it would be provocative to do so. I’ve knocked atheist groups for suing for the right to display a “Darwin tree” or whatever on public grounds next to a Christmas tree, not because they’re not entitled but because they’re being spiteful, incendiary douchebags by doing so. How is Captain Sidearm here any different?
The worst part? According to a new book about the Secret Service, the number of daily threats against Obama is already four times the number Bush faced. Every pair of eyes diverted to watch this tool make his point about liberty is a pair that’s not watching the rest of the crowd.
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Man, I think it stopped being about that self important little prick matthews hours ago :).
Sorry mommypundit, we really went on a tangent tonight.
Fighton03 on August 12, 2009 at 6:20 AM
The matter has always been which was the main rifle in RVN (and guntotinglibertarian’s credibility). I don’t know how anyone could get the idea that I was saying that pre 67 did not count. I was there in 1971-1972 and not a whole lot productive was going on. Probably less than in 1966. Actually, I think the whole thing was a big f-ing waste.
Joe Bloggs on August 12, 2009 at 6:22 AM
You must be young. See “(George) Burns and (Gracie) Allen” goodnight routine.
Joe Bloggs on August 12, 2009 at 6:23 AM
I thought you were going to bed? But I’ll explain in as non confrontational terms as I can. A blanket statement was made early in the thread that got my attention.
I stayed out of the name calling session about who served and who didn’t. When the discussion opened up I came back in about how the blanket statement was not wholly accurate. I gave sources for my information. those sources are individuals I hold in very high esteem. when I felt that those individuals sacrifice and effort was being put aside I got defensive. OK?
Fighton03 on August 12, 2009 at 6:28 AM
Oh I know the routine :), that’s why I wondered if you really want ed the…traditional…response.
Fighton03 on August 12, 2009 at 6:29 AM
Of course.
Joe Bloggs on August 12, 2009 at 6:30 AM
Goodnight Gracie.
Fighton03 on August 12, 2009 at 6:31 AM
OK. I am too sleepy now to go back over the entire over a 1,000 comment thread anyway and see exactly who said exactly what to whom in exactly what sequence.
Joe Bloggs on August 12, 2009 at 6:33 AM
It doesn’t matter, joe. I think we understand each other well enough. g’night.
Fighton03 on August 12, 2009 at 6:34 AM
Goodnight Gracie. Out.
Joe Bloggs on August 12, 2009 at 6:36 AM
Carrying a gun near the President–whomever he/she may be–is just plain stupid.
davidk on August 12, 2009 at 6:42 AM
Yes, he did seem to attempt to skew the discussion. Disingenuous.
davidk on August 12, 2009 at 6:55 AM
Most of the huffing and puffing here is pure nonsense, including AP’s comments.
1. He *WAS* legally carrying a firearm and breaking no law.
2. There was nothing the Secret Service could (or should) have done about it because it was legal.
3. To actually ATTEND the townhall, or be near the President, EVERYBODY (no exceptions) goes through the metal detecting and/or x-ray machines like at the airport. The area within the facility is sanitized just like at the airport. The man never would have been allowed in with his gun and would have gotten the same treatment if he tried to do so at the airport. If he tried, he would have been arrested.
I know because I have attended events which the President attended. I have personally seen and experienced these security measures.
The Secret Service is authorized by law to exclude weapons from the immediate vicinity of the President. And that is exactly what they do.
4. The President was never in any danger by this man, and the Secret Service knew it!
5. The fact that the Secret Service reports a higher number of threats to the President means jack squat. That’s not this guy’s problem (or mine or yours, either). Our rights do not depend upon the approval of the Secret Service OR the President of the United States, but are anchored in the Constitution.
6. Since Lincoln, *EVERY* actual, direct, attempt on the life of a sitting President (with one exception), where the life of the President was actually in danger, was committed by either a Democrat, Socialist, anarchist, leftwing terrorist, or Communist – all variants of LIBERALISM, not by the “right.” The lists of actual attempts includes Lincoln, Garfield, McKinley, FDR, Truman, Kennedy, Ford, and Reagan. While not a guarantee, a reasonable assumption could be made that if someone goes after Obama, it would probably be one of the “angry left” upset that he didn’t or couldn’t totally implement the leftist agenda, and not a RKBA advocate.
georgej on August 12, 2009 at 7:16 AM
His point should have been “I carry it everywhere. I didn’t change my normal routine and intentionally arm myself to go to this.”
darwin-t on August 12, 2009 at 7:39 AM
Bingo!
TwinkietheKid on August 12, 2009 at 7:45 AM
And that is a shame. I guess.
highhopes on August 12, 2009 at 7:57 AM
I’m sure the media won’t use this guy as a symbol for the hordes of racist gun-toting right-wing kooks that they imagine exist.
hawksruleva on August 12, 2009 at 8:18 AM
Gee, do you think it might have something to do with those union thugs who beat up that protester in St Louis last week? I’d pack too.
dhimwit on August 12, 2009 at 8:35 AM
Lots of comments here, just read the ones on the 12th page. Chrissy M is such a tool. At one point, he says he’s being nice to the guy but that was after about 5 minutes of him berating him. What a jackass.
Torch on August 12, 2009 at 8:37 AM
Late to the party but here goes.
Last fall, a man was arrested by local police in Pennsylvania while handing out second amendment literature at a park near where Obama was to hold a rally later. He was openly carrying a firearm on his hip as he does every day.
The secret service checked him out but did not charge or detain him any further than a quick check. A state trooper ended up arresting him for disorderly conduct after the man answered the question “Why are you carrying?” with “Because I’m an American.”
His trial just finished a few weeks ago. All charges dropped, lawsuit now pending against the officer and the Pennsylvania State Police. You want the whole story go to Opencarry.org or the PFAOA web site and look for threads about Mtn. Jack.
This man did nothing illegal, was not charged or unduly harrased, and I think everyone involved, both the gentleman and the authorities handled the situation within the law.
Here in Virginia, I openly carry a gun almost every day. I ALWAYS have it; not always open carry. This week I went to Lowes, Suntrust bank, the grocery store, Target, and the 7-11. Oh, and last night we had a dinner at Uno’s restaurant with about 30 people open carrying guns. Many brought their children. The month before we had over 100 attendees at an open carry dinner.
Oh and before I get flamed, my body parts are of average size and work just fine, thank you.
riverrat10k on August 12, 2009 at 8:38 AM
Yup. They have what is known as “shall-issue”, which means they’re fairly easy to get. However, open carry is also legal in NH.
I disagree. Matthews shouted at and belittled him for most of the video. He barely allowed him to speak. Even after a long and loud loaded question, as soon as the guy began to answer, he started berating him again. Funny, considering Matthews used to be a DC police officer and would have been openly carrying a weapon around lots of politicians.
MadisonConservative on August 12, 2009 at 8:38 AM
Unless you people can get enough states to change the constitution or get his state to change their carry laws, it’s none of your business what he does.
wheelgun on August 12, 2009 at 8:39 AM
Oh yeah, forgot to add that I spoke before City Council Monday night while wearing a sidearm. I love Virginia. Sic Semper Tyrannus
riverrat10k on August 12, 2009 at 8:42 AM
Good Morning, MC. Did you get some sleep?
Sporty1946 on August 12, 2009 at 8:42 AM
No. And that is the reason I often open carry around town. Just as a reminder to the thugs and criminals that, yes, we have guns too, so mind your manners.
riverrat10k on August 12, 2009 at 8:45 AM
Thought you had more sense than this.
riverrat10k on August 12, 2009 at 8:53 AM
So being from Penn., do you think the same of your fellow Quaker, Mtn. Jack? How ’bout the Dickson County folks?
I hate gun owners that think they only have half a right.
riverrat10k on August 12, 2009 at 8:56 AM
There are laws against this in my state. Not against openly carrying a gun. Big difference.
riverrat10k on August 12, 2009 at 8:59 AM
Rage at Home!!!! Dun dun dunnn… Geez, overdramatic much.
vcferlita on August 12, 2009 at 8:59 AM
Had hundreds of people open carrying firearms at the REPUBLICAN PARTY OF VIRGINIA CONVENTION in Richmond, Virginia. We were passing out “Guns Save Lives” stickers. Gave away nearly one thousand stickers, about 20% of the attendees.
riverrat10k on August 12, 2009 at 9:02 AM
Wow…Is this guy a plant or are the Libs and their sycophantic RINO’s really this paranoid? How’d this guy get on Hardball this fast? Does this guy have a history of violence and/or threatening people that we should be so concerned to begin with?
This is fishy like that swastika David Scott had spray-painted on that sign. They’re stepping up their attacks on the civilian opposition. Scary.
RepubChica on August 12, 2009 at 9:17 AM
Closed my eyes at some point. Dreamt that Andy Levy was trying to break into my house. Odd.
MadisonConservative on August 12, 2009 at 9:19 AM
I’m a member of the VRWC and have been cleaning my guns and patiently waiting for the comment registration to open. Thanks management.
Matthews and his ilk are tools. Given a soapbox and a microphone, they think they have the right to impose their cowardly and paranoid beliefs on the sheeple. Therein lies the fallacy of their thinking. Not all are sheep. Not all are oblivious to the storm brewing on the horizon. To quote the nefarious Emperor:
or the great Mope himself:
D’
Fmwoods on August 12, 2009 at 9:26 AM
For a “lib plant”, the guy was pretty calm and well spoken. He certainly got the better of Chrissy. Anyone else hear the G-D bomb Matthews dropped in the middle of the interview? Surprised me. I thought that was verboten on broadcast TV, let alone a news show…
I imagine if he was a lefty shill, he would have went high and right on a birther/troofer/Ronulan rant, for obvious reasons.
Just my read…
H60Doorgunner on August 12, 2009 at 9:36 AM
Chris Matthews’ “serious face” makes me LOL
Rusty Shackleford on August 12, 2009 at 9:37 AM
An idiot or a plant.
Choices… choices…
profitsbeard on August 12, 2009 at 9:45 AM
As a strong advocate of the 2nd amendments who daily carries a handgun daily I don’t care for the ” in your face ” stunts like this that the Open carry advocates are prone to pulling . All it leads to IMHO is more psh by liberal leaning media outlets without any furtherance of understanding the right or need to be armed .
FarmDad on August 12, 2009 at 9:53 AM
My rights are 24/7 or only on a Monday between the hours of 9-5.
MES401067 on August 12, 2009 at 9:54 AM
I just watched the video for the first time.
The guy DID handle Chris very well.
blink on August 12, 2009 at 10:03 AM
lol, Matthews is such a jackhole.
bridgetown on August 12, 2009 at 10:06 AM
why does Mathews only ask trivia questions to republicans . “Do you agree what happened under Wilsin?”
“do you agree what happened under Teddy Roosevelt ? what happened under him?
and the most famous “Do you agree with the Bush Doctrine? ”
Has he ever once ask a liberal for basic knowledge of the constitution or history? For any liberal to ever scream fox is bias needs to be slapped with the hypocrisy stick , also known as Donut’s Fist.
Donut on August 12, 2009 at 10:06 AM
As one who lives in the Deep South (clinging to my gun and religion) I am not surprised at Matthew’s complete disdain about anyone carrying a gun. I hate to say this but Chris did have a point, a town hall meeting with the President is not a good place to carry a gun, even though we do have that right. On the other hand Chris did show (once again) just how much a lib he is, gee asking a guy if his gun was loaded, an unloaded gun is nothing but a paperweight.
Teleycoman on August 12, 2009 at 10:09 AM
-1 for tactical leg holster.
NickelAndDime on August 12, 2009 at 10:13 AM
My favorite part was how Matthews asked the same question about bringing a gun to a presidential event about 5-6 times in a row without letting the guy respond. Stellar. journalism.
NickelAndDime on August 12, 2009 at 10:15 AM
Shouldn’t the answer should have been – “To protect myself from the Union thugs sent to intimidate us by Obama and Pelosi.”
marklmail on August 12, 2009 at 10:25 AM
The DHS is at fault for the increasing security risks that Obama and Biden choose to take, according to the Secret Service. The DHS is cutting out the Secret Service from performing properly. Allahpundit quotes this finding by Ronald Kessler, as reported by the Telegraph.co.uk.
Dismantle the DHS that has already mutated diametrically away from its purpose for being instigated, denying the reality of jihad and Islamofascist terrorism, focusing attention instead on veterans and people like Kostric who refuse to submit to progressive authoritarianism that permeates and mutates our Constitutional Government into a federal Marxist dictatorship.
“If you don’t exercise your rights, you lose them.” Kostric made his point peacefully.
Yes, Kostric pushed his point LEGALLY. I’m not going to criticize Kostric when it is Obama’s administration that threatens me and my country.
maverick muse on August 12, 2009 at 10:45 AM
I double-dog dare the Dems to bring forth legislation banning concealed-carry around the POTUS (Or around Congresscritters or Senators for that matter).
BradSchwartze on August 12, 2009 at 10:54 AM
Allahpundit incorrectly alludes to an increase of threat to Obama’s life AS IF from people wanting to see Obama assassinated. That is not the point his quote makes. The increased danger facing those protected by the Secret Service comes from the DHS. Read Kostric:
maverick muse on August 12, 2009 at 10:58 AM
KostricRonald Kesslermaverick muse on August 12, 2009 at 11:01 AM
If this gentleman is indicative of the mood of the country I don’t understand why Ron Paul isn’t a bigger force and a strengthening candidate for the next Presidential Election.
The guest was surefooted and savvy. Matthews seemed a little angry but toned it down probably because he realized how foolished he looked in contrast to the civil presentation of the guest.
PunditFight on August 12, 2009 at 11:02 AM
Matthews was pushing buttons on purpose. He just thought that his smug self would get the guy to go off.
This was a setup and the guy handled himself with constraint.
ms on August 12, 2009 at 11:45 AM
Like him or not, Obama is the President of the United States. That, if for no other reason, should have indicated to the idiot it was not a good idea to carry heat. Yeah, if he had tried anything and been shot, the media would have blamed every gun-owning American and the dems would have used it as excuse to collect the rest of them (that they are aware of), and Matthews is a jerk, but still – come on folks a little common sense here OK.
georgeofthedesert on August 12, 2009 at 11:46 AM
I’d say there’s 50/50 chance that this guy is:
a) an ron paul nutter like he says he is.
b) a plant.
Neither would really surprise me all that much.
bleedingumsdeakin on August 12, 2009 at 12:05 PM
Provocation display. I feel he should have kept it concealed. What if a group of Milhous thugs jumped him and took the gun? Who knows what would have happened then. And of course it would have been this guy’s fault.
Guns are not needed until they are needed.
CEA_Agent on August 12, 2009 at 12:15 PM
right wingers overdue??? /sarc lol
UNREPENTANT CONSERVATIVE CAPITOLIST on August 12, 2009 at 12:19 PM
He was just exercising his 1st and 2nd Amendment rights.
It’s not like this guy is some sort of anti-government, conspiracy theorist type. Or a racist.
Nope.
welcome_ghosts on August 12, 2009 at 12:23 PM
Whaaa?? I don’t think it is responsible to bring your gun to an event the president is at but this statement is pretty silly Allah. I mean, just because you have a right to free speech, doesn’t mean you’re obliged to blog it. And what you say here can be seen as provacative, it being a right wing blog an all.
Daemonocracy on August 12, 2009 at 12:25 PM
He never tried to enter a secure area. But for darn sure union thugs were not going to kick his head in.
The liberals and gutless RINO’s would have us go unarmed to get beaten down.
Spartacus on August 12, 2009 at 12:40 PM
Does he have the right to carry? Yes.
Should he have brought one here? No.
We can’t expect the liberals to use common sense and accountability when we can’t do it either.
politicalwhat on August 12, 2009 at 12:43 PM
I’ve always thought concealed carry was a violation of the 8th Amendment– not yours, the felon you shoot who had no freaking clue he would get the death penalty for attempted robbery.
Open carry not only supports our rights, it promotes common politeness.
Chris_Balsz on August 12, 2009 at 12:58 PM
Amen, and to follow up on Allahpundit’s mention of the Secret Service book, In the President’s Secret Service, is a very interesting (and easy!) read.
mmnowakjr85 on August 12, 2009 at 1:05 PM
Very petty argument AP, if I could open carry, I’d do it everyday no matter who was in town.
HotAirExpert on August 12, 2009 at 1:14 PM
The the President, not the King.
I’m a citizen, not a subject.
Why should there be a “suspend your civil rights zone” around Barack Obama, who is only a citizen, just like me. And which civil rights are next?
Anyway, the carry was OPEN. What danger is there from OPEN carry? Like there weren’t 9,000 snipers trained on this guy at all times?
voxpopuli on August 12, 2009 at 1:18 PM
“(b) having a right doesn’t mean you’re obliged to exercise it, particularly in circumstances where it would be provocative to do so.”
Rights are exercised by choice, not obligation. Why do you feel obligated to write your leftist crap? Just because you can doesn’t mean you have to.
DRH on August 12, 2009 at 1:22 PM
By the way . . . “Captain Sidearm”?
For all the carping that gets done about Alinsky’s Rules around here, I see Allahpundit was not shy at all about whipping out Alinsky Rule 5 (Ridicule) at the earliest opportunity.
Shame on you, Allahpundit. You ridicule because you know your substantive point is weak.
More conservatives marginalizing other conservatives. That path has worked so well in the last 2 elections.
voxpopuli on August 12, 2009 at 1:33 PM
They marginalize each other because there is no general consensus on broad issues within the Republican party. The party is completely fragmented.
I’m sure that’ll go away before 2010. If not, probably by 2012.
Yep.
welcome_ghosts on August 12, 2009 at 1:43 PM
BOOTLICK MEDIA…..
Chris Matthews
Keith Olbermann
Kathleen Parker
Peggy Noonan
Chris Buckley
Any of the Evening news Anchors on ABC/CBS/NBC
Any of the White House Press Corp
Did I miss anyone?
1-20-13, stay focused.
PappyD61 on August 12, 2009 at 1:43 PM
Boohoo. Given the sensitivity of poor D’ohbama, “I hope he fails” probably gets logged as a threat. Weenie.
That said,– Dude. Don’t pack heat to a public venue of this nature and particularly not one where the President is to appear. Damn, son.
NTXLass on August 12, 2009 at 1:49 PM
I’ve protested President Clinton in the past. I didn’t bring a firearm with me at all.
I had a license to carry concealed but didn’t want to end up on some kind of Secret Service watch list.
Now at these town halls, which I’ve been to one at a IBEW Local in Jacksonville FL, I most certainly carry concealed.
But when I do, I stay off their property to avoid armed trespassing charges. I’ll park on a public sidewalk and bring signs.
I don’t want to end up in the hospital either.
Tailgunner on August 12, 2009 at 2:02 PM
Sure is liberal in here.
voxpopuli on August 12, 2009 at 2:07 PM
I’m no Ron Paul fan and I think this guy shouldn’t have carried at an event with the President but he did a great job of tossing all the angry bait that Matthews tried to throw at him. He even worked in his own points about the participants bussed in from Mass.
DaMav on August 12, 2009 at 2:14 PM
Dear Producer:
Never ever ever invite an intelligent, well spoken, informed, conservative on my show again. You are making
meMSNBC look like we support the Constitution. Must I remind you, MR. Producer, that our parent company G.E., is poised to make a killing off of the Cap & Trade legislation, BILLIONS off of the new healthcare reformbill, and don’t forget the 40 Million we got in tax-payer stimulus cash.-Chrissy Mathews
Fishy.Gov on August 12, 2009 at 2:33 PM
Yeah, but putting out a report about Right Wing Extremism is a horrible thing to do.
And the right isnt fueled by crazy anger these days. Nope!
orange on August 12, 2009 at 2:42 PM
http://www.veteranoutrage.com
I agree bringing a weapon to a town hall meeting is a bad idea..
But i fear real soon if we dont take back power from these crazy insane democrats (and i do mean by mass protests)
and possible placing all of congress under arrest.
We wont have any rights left..
Dont believe me?
check out this one..
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/tom-blumer/2009/08/11/cant-make-it-dem-rep-who-opposes-photo-id-vote-requiring-photo-id-town-h
Its on your own site..
Democrats who did all they could to ensure
every illegal mexican and criminal was allowed to vote
now are BARRING american citizens
from going to town hall meetings
UNLESS you show the gestapo (err democrat senators)
yoru ID and you are approved to see your congressman
This isnt the United states now
its turning into the
SOVIET UNION
and the democrats are the KGB..
http://www.veteranoutrage.com
I hate to say this
But i told you so..
veteranoutrage on August 12, 2009 at 2:50 PM
Having lived in a open carry state, I have to say I think the very reason they have the law is to alarm people.
The fact of the matter concealed carry is a violation of the Constitution.What part of shall not infringe do our politicians not understand.
If that guy had been concealed carry, no one would have said a word.
ScottyDog on August 12, 2009 at 3:20 PM
This gun toating idiot has every right to protest America having a black president.
Monkei on August 12, 2009 at 3:26 PM
There’s legal and then there’s stupid. I’m a pretty ardent 2A supporter, but bringing a loaded gun to a presidential event is pretty stupid.
PersonalLiberty on August 12, 2009 at 3:34 PM
Carrying a gun near the president may be stupid. It is, however, not wrong.
proconstitution on August 12, 2009 at 3:35 PM
PersonalLiberty on August 12, 2009 at 3:34 PM
So should we change the law? He was a law abiding citizen…who was calm and collected. I have no fear for a citizen to carry their side arm anymore than I fear the freeway…cars kill more people than guns.
Conservative Voice on August 12, 2009 at 3:38 PM
I’m not sure what the motivation is to bring a firearm to a meeting like this. There have been scuffles but is this really about self-defense?
The 2nd is very secure these days. Silly acts like this beg legislation curbing firearms freedoms. Obama gets taken out by a bullet…. expect a constitutional convention.
lexhamfox on August 12, 2009 at 3:44 PM
I do not agree with blatant open carry.It provides too much fuel for the 2nd bashers. Concealed works just fine. A dirty look and a few choice words take care of most nutcases,racists,and libs.
flyoverboy on August 12, 2009 at 3:54 PM
If the 2A is “very secure” then a fellow legally carrying a gun at least a half a mile from an event where the President isn’t even present at the time possibly posing a danger to the 2A tells me the 2A isn’t as secure as you might think.
JohnTant on August 12, 2009 at 4:01 PM
If he doesn’t like New Hampshire’s laws then don’t go there.
Also the secret service constitutes a standing army and is unconstitutional anyway.
Spathi on August 12, 2009 at 4:08 PM
lexhamfox on August 12, 2009 at 3:44 PM
Whatever his motivation…last time I checked the 2nd amendment gave him the right.
We’ve been duped folks…conditioned to think that we must look at intent. Conditioned that the state has our best interest at heart. Either the man was free to carry his gun, or he isn’t free. It doesn’t matter his reason. Was he a law abiding citizen? Was he within his rights? Was he acting irresponsibly? Not anymore irresponsible than driving his car on the freeway.
It wouldn’t be surprising to see you all for government mandating you wear a seatbelt.
Conservative Voice on August 12, 2009 at 4:14 PM
It’d be a lot worse than a constitutional convention. The Dictatorship would have been handed its Reichstag Fire on a silver platter.
Don’t go near that one.
dhimwit on August 12, 2009 at 4:44 PM
ummm yeah I was there.
our side saw the guy with the gun. since about 1/4 of us were carrying anyways, no big deal.
there were SIEU thugs on the other side, and we could rightfully say we were fearful for our safety.
regardless..life free or die state law.
concealed carry=legal with permit.
open carry=if you are a legal firearm owner, you can open carry. period.
stop getting your panties in a bunch over it, ok? NH has our laws, you have yours. I’m not making you do open carry, so don’t come here and tell us what to do.
besides, the president was never in any danger. even the motorcade was a decoy.
he came in the back door of the school in a U-HAUL.
no, I’m not making it up.
warhorse_03826 on August 12, 2009 at 5:29 PM
Two words, union thugs.
jakub on August 12, 2009 at 5:50 PM
G T L two tours in nam, as what USO wardrobe boy?
huckelberry on August 12, 2009 at 5:52 PM
I don’t know who make me sicker Chris Matthews or Keith Olbermann. Ok, well it’s Keith.
MJZZZ on August 12, 2009 at 5:54 PM
warhorse_03826 on August 12, 2009 at 5:29 PM
It isn’t amazing that so called conservatives and libertarians chant state rights and 2nd Amendment rights, but when it isn’t pc enough…they cry foul and call citizens stupid and irresponsible?
Seriously people, we need to defend our rights…even if you disagree with how someone is exercising his right!
Conservative Voice on August 12, 2009 at 6:03 PM
He may have been legal, may have the weapon properly secured in a good holster…but the guy was a knucklehead for carrying a weapon around the President of the U.S. If he’s so scared, then stay home or grow a couple.
Jakefut on August 12, 2009 at 6:08 PM
GTL liberal! right!!
huckelberry on August 12, 2009 at 6:13 PM
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