Hoyer, Pelosi call protests against ObamaCare “un-American”
posted at 9:30 am on August 10, 2009 by Ed Morrissey
I guess the Democrats have really decided to go nuclear in support of ObamaCare. In the face of massive protests at townhall meetings as elected officials face their constituents, Nancy Pelosi and Steny Hoyer have a new strategy to avoid accountability. They simply have decided to call protests “un-American.” No, I’m not kidding, and they did it in print (via Cuffy Meigs):
However, it is now evident that an ugly campaign is underway not merely to misrepresent the health insurance reform legislation, but to disrupt public meetings and prevent members of Congress and constituents from conducting a civil dialogue. These tactics have included hanging in effigy one Democratic member of Congress in Maryland and protesters holding a sign displaying a tombstone with the name of another congressman in Texas, where protesters also shouted “Just say no!” drowning out those who wanted to hold a substantive discussion.
These disruptions are occurring because opponents are afraid not just of differing views — but of the facts themselves. Drowning out opposing views is simply un-American. Drowning out the facts is how we failed at this task for decades.
Health care is complex. It touches every American life. It drives our economy. People must be allowed to learn the facts.
I can’t think of three better reasons to get government out of health care than that it’s “complex,” “it touches every American life,” and “it drives our economy.” However, it’s now apparently un-American to say that it in public. Will Pelosi and Hoyer set up a tip line for un-American activities, such as flag@house.gov? Maybe they’ll just recreate the House Un-American Activities Committee to hold hearings and demand testimony. After all, that effort had such a glorious history of operating on the same principles Hoyer and Pelosi espouse here, which can be boiled down to “shut up and do what you’re told.”
We know that members of Congress don’t read bills before voting on them. Now we find out that they don’t read the Constitution before taking the oath of office that demands loyalty to it. We know that because, in the First Amendment, the Constitution not only protects the right of free speech but also the right to petition government for a “redress of grievances.” That means that people unhappy with the direction of government have the right — in fact, have a duty — to air their grievances to their elected officials and demand better governance.
There could be nothing more American than appearing at a town hall and confronting elected officials over their wrong-headed policies, especially when those policies accrue more power to the federal government and eliminate freedom of choice for American citizens. Nancy Pelosi and Steny Hoyer don’t agree. They apparently believe that their elected positions gives them the right to dictate to the country, and the right to be free of protest and dissent. In other words, they see themselves as royalty — as if they themselves were the state, and any protest is un-American simply because it opposes their policies.
They’re impugning your patriotism for using the First Amendment. That tells us everything we need to know about the Democratic majorities in the House and the Senate. This is a new low in American politics, and both Pelosi and Hoyer are foolish enough to put it in USA Today for all to see it.
Update: The boss notes that Hillary Clinton has slammed Pelosi and Hoyer for questioning the patriotism of dissenting Americans:
“I am sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and you disagree with this administration somehow you’re not patriotic. We should stand up and say we are Americans and we have a right to debate and disagree with any administration.”
Oh, wait, that was from 2003 … when we had a Republican administration. Now it’s “I’m sick and tired of people who disagree with us, which is why Barack Obama set up Snitch Central at the White House.”
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Resist We Much on May 17, 2013 at 10:32 PM
You just had to..didn’t u?
I stopped it immediately.
That song gets in your head and won’t leave.
Unless this was meant for the continuance of the art deco convo.
bazil9 on May 17, 2013 at 10:40 PM
Thaks for the link.
ITguy on May 17, 2013 at 10:40 PM
Someone with organized crime experience, and some IT whizzes on staff that can take apart their email system and find the fake names.
slickwillie2001 on May 17, 2013 at 10:40 PM
Page 3 Bishop!
;-)
ITguy on May 17, 2013 at 10:41 PM
More than a few observers have noticed that “Hope and Change” is a vacuous slogan devoid of substance.
I on the other hand think is it composed of plaque, the same plaque which is caked inside Chris Christie’s upper GI tract.
SparkPlug on May 17, 2013 at 10:42 PM
is there a ‘money trail’ to this IRS thing??…
im still confused as to why the Lois lady cam forward??
what was her angle?…she wasnt on the stand…
she’s no whistleblower…did the WH feel they needed
this amount of cover for Benghazi..??….
going2mars on May 17, 2013 at 10:42 PM
She’s mean that way.
cozmo on May 17, 2013 at 10:42 PM
omg — I forgot about that!
Axe on May 17, 2013 at 10:43 PM
That’s right baby. I got me a hottie. B9 is all mine. I’m saving up for a ring. (:SparkPlug on May 17, 2013 at 10:37 PM
bazil9 on May 17, 2013 at 10:43 PM
D’oh! It showed me as Page 3 Bishop, and then after my last comment it shows bazil9 as Page 3 Bishop.
ITguy on May 17, 2013 at 10:44 PM
whoops..how did I strike?
I got bishop?
My first..lost my B cherry.
lmao
bazil9 on May 17, 2013 at 10:44 PM
Hey You
Axe on May 17, 2013 at 10:45 PM
Twists ear…
Must keep mouth shut.
Stomps on foot…
I’ll be in my bunk.
cozmo on May 17, 2013 at 10:46 PM
This guy is AWESOME.
He calls out Obama PERFECTLY!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSETQfwD5pw
portlandon on May 17, 2013 at 10:46 PM
bazil9 on May 17, 2013 at 10:31 PM
Heck, I figured Axe would be easy
cozmo on May 17, 2013 at 10:38 PM
OMG..love Vixen!!
Thx!
bazil9 on May 17, 2013 at 10:48 PM
Your welcome.
Me too..great to hear a tune you forgot about.
I was sooo into music back in the day.
I have 600 cd’s..went to a million concerts..
a variety.
Name your thing and I an dig it up.
cept rap..or country (like some country but not my expertise. :)
bazil9 on May 17, 2013 at 10:51 PM
because the hacks were busy investigating Palin’s uterus?
burrata on May 17, 2013 at 10:51 PM
Try this… seriously.
ITguy on May 17, 2013 at 10:52 PM
excellent/excellent
excellent . . .
having trouble keeping up because, resist
Axe on May 17, 2013 at 10:52 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rm14mR_NDHs
Resist We Much on May 17, 2013 at 10:53 PM
SparkPlug on May 17, 2013 at 10:42 PM
tons of idiots voted for what was “cool”..the hip thing..POTUS or any other position is serious biz. Not a trendy style to adopt…
learn the hard way.
bazil9 on May 17, 2013 at 10:55 PM
Wow. That’s wonderful. Now we can invest in a bigger trampoline for the living room and live like everyone else.
SparkPlug on May 17, 2013 at 10:55 PM
Lol, nice.
NotCoach on May 17, 2013 at 10:57 PM
Martin Luther King: “I have a dream”.
Barack Hussein Obama: “I have a crime spree”.
VorDaj on May 17, 2013 at 10:58 PM
VorDaj on May 17, 2013 at 10:59 PM
So that’s what I am missing.
I knew I wasn’t like everyone else.
Don’t forget the bmx bike and flan.
I will need a large bucket.
bazil9 on May 17, 2013 at 11:01 PM
JFK: “Ask not what your country can do for you but what you can do for your country”.
BHO: “Screw you and your God damned country!”
VorDaj on May 17, 2013 at 11:02 PM
ITguy on May 17, 2013 at 10:52 PM
Cute.
bazil9 on May 17, 2013 at 11:02 PM
why’d you go there, nougat? :) nice choice. just wondering.
O! — off my bar there; haven’t heard this in a long time:
Fire Woman
Axe on May 17, 2013 at 11:03 PM
Good deal. Hope every time he swallows them little Obama logos cause problems. The doc told him recently, “we’re going to have to use medical Drano to clean your pipes but your brain and leg tingle can’t be cured ya fuk.”
arnold ziffel on May 17, 2013 at 11:03 PM
The MEDIA is trying to turn the Conversation AWAY from Benghazi and ONTO the IRS/AP Scandals – that’s because THOSE Scandals are MORE USEFUL to Zero and his Henchmen.
This Administration OVERSAW or Solicited The MURDER of Four Innocent American – AND reveals the TOTAL Abdication of Security for ALL Americans Worldwide!
Neither the IRS nor the AP Scandals Represent THAT LEVEL of Dereliction Of DUTY!!
williamg on May 17, 2013 at 11:04 PM
Fire Woman
Axe on May 17, 2013 at 11:03 PM
Love!
Okay..getting a sense of ur tastes now.
bazil9 on May 17, 2013 at 11:05 PM
Well, let’s get a wrench in there.
the prodigy – take me to the hospital :)
Axe on May 17, 2013 at 11:08 PM
arnold ziffel on May 17, 2013 at 11:03 PM
His last colonoscopy showed several poli’s ,condo’s
(ht/t rwm)the media and a dog femur bone.
bazil9 on May 17, 2013 at 11:08 PM
Watch out for that chandelier….
viking01 on May 17, 2013 at 11:08 PM
Martin Luther King: “I have a dream”.
Barack Hussein Obama:
ITguy on May 17, 2013 at 11:09 PM
Very true ma’am. I could even almost understand “cool” but Barackca puto ain’t it.
Speaking for myself, I just want someone who is competent, or at least appears to be. Obama was obviously a showboatin, shiftless, lazy
Community agitatorCommunist.arnold ziffel on May 17, 2013 at 11:10 PM
Well my Fire Marshall bucket was glued on Axes head and he has yet to give it back in violation of the rental agreement. He owes us late fees.
SparkPlug on May 17, 2013 at 11:10 PM
bazil9 on May 17, 2013 at 11:05 PM
Well, let’s get a wrench in there.
the prodigy – take me to the hospital :)
Axe on May 17, 2013 at 11:08 PM
Like !
My fave Prodigy IS
How about Ministry?
bazil9 on May 17, 2013 at 11:13 PM
CW on May 17, 2013 at 11:14 PM
The previous is from the FETU site. Interesting.
CW on May 17, 2013 at 11:14 PM
williamg on May 17, 2013 at 11:04 PM
this is also what i believe….
they knew for a long time about the IRS deal….
the time of exposure was …their choice…
to cover up the order to stand don….came from BHO
then e went to bed adn off to fun in Vegas…
he CAN NOT have that come out…nor can HILLary..
going2mars on May 17, 2013 at 11:15 PM
Sooooooo – B9……you looked like Belinda Carlisle —–when?
williamg on May 17, 2013 at 11:15 PM
Smack my b!tch up! Thanks. Haven’t Prodigy in a while either.
NotCoach on May 17, 2013 at 11:17 PM
My favorite band from the 90′s.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9zpnLBtwwg
NotCoach on May 17, 2013 at 11:18 PM
Got to go get my phones. Switched to laptop so I could pace and burn some energy, but half the music’s gone. :) brb
Axe on May 17, 2013 at 11:19 PM
One of my faves.
Resist We Much on May 17, 2013 at 11:19 PM
So – hello bazil9, Sophie, Chrissy………..other deep thinkers of the aether….
williamg on May 17, 2013 at 11:20 PM
And them covering their favorite band.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SzgZJEpLuw0
NotCoach on May 17, 2013 at 11:20 PM
http://vimeo.com/7143749
Resist We Much on May 17, 2013 at 11:20 PM
A welfare queens agitator from Chicago who is not qualified to a dog catcher in the smallest town in America… His whole Presidency is based on a fake hollywood image… A presidency based on reading empty rhetoric speeches from a teleprompter and taking one photo op after another…
He is far the most incompetent President in the history of the Republic… However we may lucky that he is that stupid, that incompetent, and that lazy or else he would have much more damage to the Republic like FDR and LBJ did…
For once Bill Clinton once right when he said “In another time this guy should be fetching us coffee and not running for President”…
mnjg on May 17, 2013 at 11:20 PM
there’s a spi spi spider in the gar gar garage rising and falling above my keyboard, in front of the screen . . .
so cool
SHE’S EVIL, PEOPLE
Axe on May 17, 2013 at 11:21 PM
arnold ziffel on May 17, 2013 at 11:10 PM
ftr- I didn’t think he was cool..or handsome at all…nor impressed by his speeches.
I saw the young people in O town..
The cool “O” stickers..slogans..blah blah
The black dude!..wow man..so cool!
Or those that (when I early voted at the library..wrapped around the building) voted on race-only. Didn’t know a damn issue. I listened to everyone around me..and on there cell phones..
I had people get in my face- a damn 7/11 cashier..around 18, prego with her mans name tattooed across her neck “Prince”..get in my face and insinuate I was racist due to my Palin shirt (came back from her rally. Because the only reason I couldn’t be voting for Barrack had to be because I was racist. Won’t go into what I told her.
Always a mistake to A. Get in my face-B. Waste my time with idiocy.
that is just 1 example.
I never got got the women gushing over him either. If he was good looking, I would say so. Regardless.
He used the ignorant youth..quite effectively.
Exhibit A-the trolls here.
bazil9 on May 17, 2013 at 11:24 PM
*snicker*
Resist We Much on May 17, 2013 at 11:24 PM
Okay – I guess I can hang with that…..kinda: One of My Favorite Bands of the later 80s – early 90s…….
williamg on May 17, 2013 at 11:24 PM
I always enjoyed them.
-
Some good Garbage here.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=raRGnueg8Lo
And I can No Doubt help myself
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TR3Vdo5etCQ
CW on May 17, 2013 at 11:25 PM
Hi, williamg. Wassup? Had any Civil War 2.0 drills lately?
Resist We Much on May 17, 2013 at 11:25 PM
bazil9 on May 17, 2013 at 11:13 PM
Smack my b!tch up! Thanks. Haven’t Prodigy in a while either.
NotCoach on May 17, 2013 at 11:17 PM
We are on the same wave length tonight, huh?
Cool!
bazil9 on May 17, 2013 at 11:27 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBIdmUs2tew
“makin’ lunch in the afternoon…”
ITguy on May 17, 2013 at 11:29 PM
williamg on May 17, 2013 at 11:15 PM
Ummm…21 yrs ago. lol
sorry to burst your fantasy bubble. :)
bazil9 on May 17, 2013 at 11:29 PM
You lost me…….is this some arcane reference to your perception that I have affinity or desire for berserker violence to break out amongst our liberal and media friends?
It’s not true.
I am a man of Peace…..I never Lie…..And I’m ALWAYS right…..
williamg on May 17, 2013 at 11:31 PM
We just bonded. :)
Notcoach..he just played garbage..Now that has been a while for me. I have all their stuff..lost in the CD folders somewhere.
Good tune night!
bazil9 on May 17, 2013 at 11:31 PM
And after what he witnessed today…..
Conclusion: Along with his other perversions, David Brooks is a masochist.
aquaviva on May 17, 2013 at 11:31 PM
:) Was never a huge No Doubt fan though.
NotCoach on May 17, 2013 at 11:33 PM
REALLY? THAT long, eh? But wait – wan’t that in the ’90s…..I did say 90s didn’t I?
What are you implying? Or maybe – just coming straight out and saying?
williamg on May 17, 2013 at 11:33 PM
bazil9 on May 17, 2013 at 11:31 PM
:) Was never a huge No Doubt fan though.
NotCoach on May 17, 2013 at 11:33 PM
CW and I. :)
Oh lord..I have everything by ND…saw them 4 times..grabbed Gwens hand..about passed out.
My top 5 ever.
bazil9 on May 17, 2013 at 11:35 PM
He’s a Cassomasochist!
viking01 on May 17, 2013 at 11:35 PM
williamg on May 17, 2013 at 11:33 PM
I just turned 40..
I resembled her in HS…when she was a Go Go.
Do the math. :)
Unless you find her repulsive. :)
bazil9 on May 17, 2013 at 11:36 PM
Lol.
NotCoach on May 17, 2013 at 11:36 PM
I’ve already told you that you have an itchier trigger finger than General James Chesnut, Jr.
And, I’ve already told you that, if I am ever in a vast building with bad acoustics with you and Barack Obama and someone drops a book, I’m hitting the deck.
Then, you had to tell me that you were some sort of nuclear scientist.
Oh, man.
Resist We Much on May 17, 2013 at 11:37 PM
For the record, would give pretty much anything to be at a concert with RWM tonight. Or a movie. Or walking down a street talking about Bengazi. No offense to AP or the QOTD. It’s just one of those nights.
Smattering of rain would be great too.
Would take a McDonalds parking lot.
*Cheeto*
Liked those, and NotCoach too. :) Again, sorry — hard to keep up.
Axe on May 17, 2013 at 11:37 PM
Lol.
NotCoach on May 17, 2013 at 11:36 PM
I love SKA-
I saw the Mighty Mighty Bosstones several times.
Had a drink with the singer once at House of Blues.
He isn’t good looking really..but sexy in a way.
Coolest guy!
bazil9 on May 17, 2013 at 11:39 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bVokY_rMaMQ
ITguy on May 17, 2013 at 11:40 PM
OOOOH!! You mean that’s when you Looked like Belinda Carlisle!
I thought you were busting on my Husker Du reference……………My Bad…well, that and I thought you might be calling me “old” – that’s not accurate: I’m 100 years older than God…..
21 years ago? Really? Well – that’s not THAT long ago……..I’ll Belinda still looks pretty good!
williamg on May 17, 2013 at 11:40 PM
What’s wrong with 40? I’m 42. So you’re a more seasoned and established beauty. :P
NotCoach on May 17, 2013 at 11:40 PM
Did anyone jiggle anything interesting¿
SparkPlug on May 17, 2013 at 11:41 PM
Who is this Ben Gazi?
Schadenfreude on May 17, 2013 at 11:41 PM
For God sake..
RWM- go eat a Big Mac with Axe one day…pleeeeeze. I’ll pay you! :)
bazil9 on May 17, 2013 at 11:41 PM
.I’ll Belinda still looks pretty good!
williamg on May 17, 2013 at 11:40 PM
I am sure she does..
I don’t look like her at this point in time. :)
bazil9 on May 17, 2013 at 11:42 PM
If you were a beautiful woman at 20, you are likely a more beautiful woman at 40. :) All fantasies can remain intact.
. . . can’t believe you asked that question. :)
. . . can’t believe you want me to pay rent on a bucket YOU GLUED TO MY HEAD.
Axe on May 17, 2013 at 11:43 PM
IRS is debauched. Loaded with lefty crooks bilking the system while they use draconian tactics on the populace.
SparkPlug on May 17, 2013 at 11:43 PM
What’s wrong with 40? I’m 42. So you’re a more seasoned and established beauty. :P
NotCoach on May 17, 2013 at 11:40 PM
Thx sweet pea.
Hard getting older.
I still get carded- sooooo…all good for now. :)
Oh axe..I have my mom’s skin on tonight. Just the left forearm. ;)
bazil9 on May 17, 2013 at 11:44 PM
I met them in New Orleans……..heck you didn’t say a peep about my postings of “The English Beat” last night……LOVED those guys!
…..and they “got” history references!…..
williamg on May 17, 2013 at 11:44 PM
Axe on May 17, 2013 at 11:43 PM
(:
ty.
*big Mac*
bazil9 on May 17, 2013 at 11:45 PM
Incorrect. Barky passed Watergate way back in his illegal and repulsive 2008 campaign … several times over. The press just ignored it, as did the cowardly GOP.
There’s nothing new in these “scandals”. All of this stuff is old news, and old news that was well-known to anyone with more than two brain cells.
Again, incorrect. The Indonesian Idiot and his junta were always known to be sinister to anyone with the aforementioned two brain cells, or more. The cowardly GOP still doesn’t want to understand what this means. They still want to collude with the Ineligible Indonesian Imbecile, as they’ve been doing since he first slimed into office.
ThePrimordialOrderedPair on May 17, 2013 at 11:45 PM
The h is invisible. :)
Axe on May 17, 2013 at 11:46 PM
williamg on May 17, 2013 at 11:44 PM
I’m sorry dude.
I have some nerve damage and arthritis in my hands.
A busy thread..hard for me some days.
I miss a lot. I don’t mean to.
Don’t take offense ever.
bazil9 on May 17, 2013 at 11:47 PM
the really old days.
crimson and clover
jrsrigmvr on May 17, 2013 at 11:48 PM
Be back..maybe. ;)
bazil9 on May 17, 2013 at 11:49 PM
Remined me of this…
…sorry!
ITguy on May 17, 2013 at 11:49 PM
I’m an aspergian Disaster, Axe……..I have to PRACTICE Just to Blend in with People and “look” like I’m capable of conversating with them……..NEVER MIND women……I do and say EVERYTHING wrong….
Probably why I am now divorced……
williamg on May 17, 2013 at 11:49 PM
I NEVER take offense at women…….I’m a virtual “punching bag” for them……….
They still don’t like me, much……….
williamg on May 17, 2013 at 11:51 PM
Eating square fish in a McDonald’s carpark in the rain. You really have a way with words that can sweep a gurl off of her feet. :-)
Resist We Much on May 17, 2013 at 11:52 PM
You mean Ben Gazzara.
/
CW on May 17, 2013 at 11:54 PM
Weird. New thought being thought. New point of view being assimilated. Not so discombobulating as having an entirely new perspective on space, like the other day, so no feeling of being swamped. Just a pleasant feeling of learning a new thing.
And very interesting, g. Explains a couple blurts. :)
My blurts have an entirely different basis: 1. I’m an ass, or 2. I lost control. :)
Axe on May 17, 2013 at 11:55 PM
CLASSIC! Saw them in St. Louis as a child….
Even OLDER…..one of the first records I became obsessed with….I had NO IDEA what it meant…..The Guitar Just Hypnotized me – and Calmed my mind……something that was a relief for me…..
williamg on May 17, 2013 at 11:56 PM
Greta featured tonight that they paid themselves 94 million in bonuses in the last 3 years…from, of course, tax payers’ dough.
Since when do gov’t creeps, who all leech off of producers, get bonuses? What exactly, aside from terror, do these thugs produce?
I typed more but just deleted it. It had to do with a wish, just for two weeks.
Schadenfreude on May 17, 2013 at 11:57 PM
listening to the friday floyd fix on the radio but thought the youngsters here might like some old stuff. i miss the good ol’ days.
crystal blue persuasion
jrsrigmvr on May 17, 2013 at 11:57 PM
I knew it was inaudible :)
Schadenfreude on May 17, 2013 at 11:58 PM
yep
jrsrigmvr on May 18, 2013 at 12:00 AM
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