Hoyer, Pelosi call protests against ObamaCare “un-American”

posted at 9:30 am on August 10, 2009 by Ed Morrissey

I guess the Democrats have really decided to go nuclear in support of ObamaCare.  In the face of massive protests at townhall meetings as elected officials face their constituents, Nancy Pelosi and Steny Hoyer have a new strategy to avoid accountability.  They simply have decided to call protests “un-American.”  No, I’m not kidding, and they did it in print (via Cuffy Meigs):

However, it is now evident that an ugly campaign is underway not merely to misrepresent the health insurance reform legislation, but to disrupt public meetings and prevent members of Congress and constituents from conducting a civil dialogue. These tactics have included hanging in effigy one Democratic member of Congress in Maryland and protesters holding a sign displaying a tombstone with the name of another congressman in Texas, where protesters also shouted “Just say no!” drowning out those who wanted to hold a substantive discussion.

These disruptions are occurring because opponents are afraid not just of differing views — but of the facts themselves. Drowning out opposing views is simply un-American. Drowning out the facts is how we failed at this task for decades.

Health care is complex. It touches every American life. It drives our economy. People must be allowed to learn the facts.

I can’t think of three better reasons to get government out of health care than that it’s “complex,” “it touches every American life,” and “it drives our economy.”  However, it’s now apparently un-American to say that it in public.  Will Pelosi and Hoyer set up a tip line for un-American activities, such as flag@house.gov?  Maybe they’ll just recreate the House Un-American Activities Committee to hold hearings and demand testimony.  After all, that effort had such a glorious history of operating on the same principles Hoyer and Pelosi espouse here, which can be boiled down to “shut up and do what you’re told.”

We know that members of Congress don’t read bills before voting on them.  Now we find out that they don’t read the Constitution before taking the oath of office that demands loyalty to it.  We know that because, in the First Amendment, the Constitution not only protects the right of free speech but also the right to petition government for a “redress of grievances.”  That means that people unhappy with the direction of government have the right — in fact, have a duty — to air their grievances to their elected officials and demand better governance.

There could be nothing more American than appearing at a town hall and confronting elected officials over their wrong-headed policies, especially when those policies accrue more power to the federal government and eliminate freedom of choice for American citizens.  Nancy Pelosi and Steny Hoyer don’t agree.  They apparently believe that their elected positions gives them the right to dictate to the country, and the right to be free of protest and dissent.  In other words, they see themselves as royalty — as if they themselves were the state, and any protest is un-American simply because it opposes their policies.

They’re impugning your patriotism for using the First Amendment.  That tells us everything we need to know about the Democratic majorities in the House and the Senate.  This is a new low in American politics, and both Pelosi and Hoyer are foolish enough to put it in USA Today for all to see it.

Update: The boss notes that Hillary Clinton has slammed Pelosi and Hoyer for questioning the patriotism of dissenting Americans:

“I am sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and you disagree with this administration somehow you’re not patriotic. We should stand up and say we are Americans and we have a right to debate and disagree with any administration.”

Oh, wait, that was from 2003 … when we had a Republican administration. Now it’s “I’m sick and tired of people who disagree with us, which is why Barack Obama set up Snitch Central at the White House.”


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Well now that the Dims have our attention diverted with health care it would probably be a good time for them to go for our gun’s./s

heshtesh on August 10, 2009 at 10:02 AM

whoap

hot air is broken

blatantblue on August 10, 2009 at 10:03 AM

I’ve got your ‘un-american’ right here you idiots

gatorboy on August 10, 2009 at 9:31 AM

+1776

bluelightbrigade on August 10, 2009 at 10:03 AM

Thanks Nance.

Another nail in the health-care-takeover coffin.

jeff_from_mpls on August 10, 2009 at 10:03 AM

I keep hearing about this effigy as if it were some sort of an atrocity. Are our elected representatives so thin-skinned that they can’t handle some criticism?

highhopes on August 10, 2009 at 9:57 AM

I remember the libs loving a certain effigy in October 2008.

BPD on August 10, 2009 at 10:03 AM

and prevent members of Congress and constituents from conducting a civil dialogue.

RememberBarry and the Obamabots wanted to shove the government takeover of health care through Congress without any debate or opportunity for the public to be involved.

corona on August 10, 2009 at 10:03 AM

The aim of these Marxists is to drive ordinary people to violence.

We will remain calm, yet assertive.

faraway on August 10, 2009 at 10:04 AM

Hoyer, Pelosi call protests against ObamaCare “un-American?”

Well, I call both of them very un-American…and so would the Founding Fathers.

If I recall,

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

Can we vote these fools out, once and for all? Please?

Maryland (in Charles County, St. Mary’s County, Calvert County)…what is wrong with you guys??? Get rid of this fool. Please!

California…I’ve given up on the 8th Congressional District…but please redeem yourselves…get rid of Pelosi.

coldwarrior on August 10, 2009 at 10:04 AM

How soon we forget that in the late 18th century, colonists who didn’t like taxation w/o representation were considered disloyal to the British crown.

bluelightbrigade on August 10, 2009 at 10:04 AM

Seriously, how many Blue Dog Democrats woke up this morning to read this article and said to themselves, “WTF? Are these idiots on a suicide mission?”

BuckeyeSam on August 10, 2009 at 9:52 AM

To a certain degree, the botox belle is in a tough position. The filthy liar in the White House and her corrupt party needs to pass something called “reform” if only for the face-saving aspects of doing so. The public clearly isn’t on board and despite the best efforts of ACORN, the SEIU, and other Obama supporters, the public is not shutting up and remaining neutral. It is clear that Democrats are outraged that they actually have to account for themselves in public forums.

This op-ed is a desperate measure by a desperate whore on the cusp of losing her job as speaker. If healthcare reform goes down, the enemies in her caucus are going to be on her in a heartbeat.

highhopes on August 10, 2009 at 10:04 AM

If that Nancy Pelosi isn’t careful, some girl from Kansas just might drop a house on her…

D2Boston on August 10, 2009 at 10:04 AM

They’re acting like bullies and thugs. We have a God given right to oppose their health care package. What’s the hurry? Why not debate and compromise and come up with a plan that the majority of Americans want? Isn’t that what we elect officials to do? We certainly didn’t elect them so they could stand behind the podium and insult us. Nancy Pelosi will go down in history as the most arrogant out of touch despicable “representative” we’ve ever had. How she got where she is I will never understand. But she does NOT represent me.

scalleywag on August 10, 2009 at 10:04 AM

Seriously – are Pelosi, Reid, and Obama TRYING to start a war?

Fishoutofwater on August 10, 2009 at 9:44 AM

Could be. Classical Marxism does not fear a violent revolution in its attempt to overthrow the existing government and establish socialism. It’s part of their idealogy: tear the down the status quo and rebuild from the ashes.

We saw this in Nicaragua when Marxist took control. There la resistencia were called “Contras.”

Here we are thugs, nazis, and downright un-American.

Well, if it’s a fight they want: “I’m your huckleberry.”

davidk on August 10, 2009 at 10:05 AM

Astounding. Way to help they debate…oh yeah, debate would be un-American.

batter on August 10, 2009 at 10:06 AM

Well now that the Dims have our attention diverted with health care it would probably be a good time for them to go for our gun’s./s

heshtesh on August 10, 2009 at 10:02 AM

That’d be the final straw. About half the states or more would rebel. And some of these states are home to the heavy bomber forces of the USAF as well as the strategic missile deterrent. Also, these probable secessionist states are home to significant portions of the Army. Such as Fort Hood Texas being home to 1st Armored and 1st Cavalry divisions.
Son of Pelayo

Pelayo on August 10, 2009 at 10:06 AM

I think Nancy and Stenny need to pull up thir frilly nylon panties and deal with the dissent they used to love so well.

clnurnberg on August 10, 2009 at 10:06 AM

Yes hey are. They want violence so that a national emergency can be declared which will cement their power and insure they will never be removed. Watch for it before 2010 because they can not afford to take a chance that people may vote them out. The coup will finalize just about this time next year.

jmarcure on August 10, 2009 at 9:58 AM

They’d be foolish to try that. For one thing, the military won’t back them, and secondly, they’d be fighting the part of the country that owns firearms.

In any sort of leftist coup, the only real support would be the “takers”, mainly the cities. Which would starve to death because the part of the country that feeds them would be that which fought the coup.

wildcat84 on August 10, 2009 at 10:07 AM

Another nail in the health-care-takeover coffin.

jeff_from_mpls on August 10, 2009 at 10:03 AM

It’s not a nail, it’s a feature. If it’s un-American to protest the introduciton of a health care bill, you can bet it’ll be un-American to protest it, once it’s up and running.

PackerBronco on August 10, 2009 at 10:07 AM

Why the surprise? They’re Leftists. There is nothing else they can say, no other options for them than the annihilation of dissent. But that isn’t the most dismal part of all this; rather, that would be how few conservative politicians understand who they are fighting and how to fight them. What a time we live in: while one side is taking on all the dimensions of Orwell’s vision, the other slouches, stumbles, parses and apologizes its way toward irrelevance.

rrpjr on August 10, 2009 at 10:07 AM

However, it is now evident that an ugly campaign is underway not merely to openly discuss the health insurance reform legislation, but to disrupt publicly-financed propaganda sessions and prevent members of Congress and constituents from passing this bill without having to explain what’s in it and why. These tactics have included various attempts by reactionaries to utilize their so-called First Amendment rights.
These disruptions are occurring because opponents are afraid not just of differing views — but of the facts themselves. If they weren’t afraid of facts, they wouldn’t be trying to make everyone aware of the facts– seriously, how alarmist is that?
Health care is complex. It touches every American life. It drives our economy. People must be kept out of decisions that are clearly too difficult for them to understand. After all– that’s what you pay us for.

Thanks, America. Now go away.

morganfrost on August 10, 2009 at 10:08 AM

These disruptions are occurring because opponents are afraid not just of differing views — but of the facts themselves. Drowning out opposing views is simply un-American. Drowning out the facts is how we failed at this task for decades.

Ah, but voting you tools out of office is as American as one can get.

pugwriter on August 10, 2009 at 10:08 AM

Irony: Sitting at the top of the NY TIMES Bestseller List:

Michelle Malkin!

As Chris Matthews is prone to say “HA!”

perroviejo on August 10, 2009 at 10:08 AM

Jonah Goldberg mentions this at the Corner at NRO. The Angry Mob playset:

http://www.amazon.com/Accoutrements-Angry-Mob-Play-Set/dp/B001DNC0S8/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1249905651&sr=1-1

His accompanying entry is worth a laugh too.

http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=MjE3ZDA5NjlhNTMxMTYwZjlmOGVkMDcxMTI0OTFjMWQ=

BuckeyeSam on August 10, 2009 at 10:09 AM

How much would it take before there are serious no-pay-tax movements?

I know they have all the power to garnish from paychecks and bank accounts, but what if you got a million people to withhold their taxes? More?

MadisonConservative on August 10, 2009 at 10:09 AM

scalleywag on August 10, 2009 at 10:04 AM

First let’s have a debate on just what, if anything, is “broken.” What is the cause of the “Health Care Crisis?”

And that discussion should take place in the free market. The Federal Governmant has no authority to get involved.

This manufactured “Health Care Crisis” is a Trojan Horse for a Marxist takeover of our United States.

davidk on August 10, 2009 at 10:10 AM

I keep hearing about this effigy as if it were some sort of an atrocity. Are our elected representatives so thin-skinned that they can’t handle some criticism?

highhopes on August 10, 2009 at 9:57 AM

I remember the libs loving a certain effigy in October 2008.

BPD on August 10, 2009 at 10:03 AM

Do you mean the one that people threw shoes at? Good times!

RedRedRice on August 10, 2009 at 10:10 AM

I’ve heard that a good many of the people he accused were in fact Reds…but that he got dismissed as a looney-tune for a near-total lack of decorum. Dark-Star on August 10, 2009 at 9:58 AM

The press and senate Dems made him the issue and wouldn’t let his investigation proceed. The Nenona Transcripts have proven him about 101% right.

Get M. Stanton Evans’s book, Blacklisted by History, for the comprehensive version, or Ann Coulter’s Treason, which distills Evans’s book down to one chapter.

Akzed on August 10, 2009 at 10:11 AM

Look at the bright side, Obama’s numbers are going to tank again this week after his remarks blaming the GOP for the state of health care and telling us to shut up. I’ll bet old GW had a laugh at that. And hell, after this round of drivel from the speaker, Pelosi might just end up with the worst approval rating in the history of poll taking. That’s my prediction.

scalleywag on August 10, 2009 at 10:11 AM

At this point I think this is just to incite violence. They WANT the protesters to get violent. That’s the only logical conclusion.

Ampersand on August 10, 2009 at 10:11 AM

Obama’s community organizing 101
– everything IS a crisis, otherwise it won’t incite the masses
– dismiss opposition on a technical basis, or through straw-men arguments, but NEVER on the facts

gatorboy on August 10, 2009 at 10:12 AM

Last I checked they didn’t need any “UnAmericans” to ram this through. So what is the problem? Have they not besmirched the electorate enough with the charges of astroturfing and the use of swastikas?

These people live in a bubble. I think they should serve in Afghanistan instead of jet setting on our dollar for the greater part of August. Then maybe they will learn the real meaning of service.

Also where do I donate to their opponents?

Buckeye Babe on August 10, 2009 at 10:12 AM

Those two leftist idiots wouldn’t know a real American if one jumped up and bit them in the backside. Go away fools and take that socialist healthcare manifesto with you.

rplat on August 10, 2009 at 10:12 AM

Hey Nancy!

I’ve got your answer right here, sweetheart:

“When in the course of human events…”

Perhaps you’ve heard it before?

It applies today just as it did then. The concepts of natural law are timeless. Those founders were a rare alignment of stars – true genius – you, not so much. I’ll cast my lot with the dead guys who pledged their lives, fortunes and sacred honor to create the greatest nation and form of government known to mankind. And I for one will not sit idly by why you and your despicable compatriots try and overturn it. Because that is exactly what she and the other statists (Obama at the fore) are trying to do with this trojan horse of health care – rob you of your freedom by fundamentally changing the relationship between you and your government.

turfmann on August 10, 2009 at 10:12 AM

Go away fools and take that socialist healthcare manifesto with you.

rplat on August 10, 2009 at 10:12 AM

On a boat to china!

blatantblue on August 10, 2009 at 10:12 AM

Queen Douche and the Dentured Possum have spoken:

“WILL NO ONE RID ME OF THESE TROUBLESOME PEONS?”

Anyone else think a guillotine would like right nice on the mall? Maybe with some periwinkle and a nice shrubbery?

Sugarbuzz on August 10, 2009 at 10:13 AM

Drowning out opposing views is simply un-American.

I agree, most of your party can leave their passports on the counter on the way out then.

Ozprey on August 10, 2009 at 10:13 AM

Ampersand on August 10, 2009 at 10:11 AM

I think that’s exactly right, which is why we need to remain cool, calm and collected. Ignore the insults. Keep the high road.

scalleywag on August 10, 2009 at 10:13 AM

Who is surprised?

They’ve been delivering that line in other words all along.

maverick muse on August 10, 2009 at 9:37 AM

It’s no surprise at all it’s just that they’ve never been this blunt and open about their disdain for the American people and our Constitution. Before they at least made a half hearted effort to sound like they give a damn but now…

And yet, you and I know they’ll get re-elected.

Sick. Just sick.

Yakko77 on August 10, 2009 at 10:13 AM

This op-ed is a desperate measure by a desperate whore on the cusp of losing her job as speaker. If healthcare reform goes down, the enemies in her caucus are going to be on her in a heartbeat.

highhopes on August 10, 2009 at 10:04 AM

I’m not too familiar with the innerworkings of Dem politics, but I thought Hoyer would be the one to benefit from Nan’s self-destruction. As a result, I’m surprised that he went in with her on this op-ed. If I were he, I’d have jumped on one of the lifeboats rather than remaining on the sinking U.S.S Pelosi.

BuckeyeSam on August 10, 2009 at 10:13 AM

How soon we forget that in the late 18th century, colonists who didn’t like taxation w/o representation were considered disloyal to the British crown.

bluelightbrigade on August 10, 2009 at 10:04 AM

That’s not quite accurate. The issue of representation for the American colonies was an issue that got batted down on numerous occasions. Parliament viewed the American colonies like those in India and elsewhere to be directed by the ministries in London as a parent would look out for their children.

As the reason for deeming somebody disloyal to the crown, the representation argument simply didn’t register even though it was a rallying point for the colonists. Instead charges of disloyalty were centered on the colonists refusal to pay taxes and the local governing bodies protesting the actions of the royal governors.

highhopes on August 10, 2009 at 10:14 AM

In any sort of leftist coup, the only real support would be the “takers”, mainly the cities. Which would starve to death because the part of the country that feeds them would be that which fought the coup.

wildcat84 on August 10, 2009 at 10:07 AM

How I would love to see a crowd of weak-kneed, traitorous, terrorist-hugging libtards coming up to a big group of armed farmers, waving white flags and bearing all manner of signs begging for food.

Unfortunately, a good majority of what we city-dwellers eat comes from corporate “factory farms”, and I’m not sure how that would work out in a civil war situation.

Dark-Star on August 10, 2009 at 10:14 AM

Great ending to a great post, Ed! You had me there for a minute with the Hillary slams thing!

Maybe Pelosi and Hoyer should spend a few weeks in August at an Iranian “summer camp.” That way they can get a better look at America – from the outside looking in.

Mr_Magoo on August 10, 2009 at 10:15 AM

Venona

Akzed on August 10, 2009 at 10:15 AM

if you told me that people were going to get ANGRY about HEALTH INSURANCE. . . well, I’d have thought you were absolutely bonkers.
ThackerAgency on August 10, 2009

The original war for liberation from government tyranny was sparked by a tax on tea….this is far more serious than that. But then again, the American people are not made of the same grit as our forefathers were…by and large.

Goodeye_Closed on August 10, 2009 at 10:15 AM

Seriously, how many Blue Dog Democrats woke up this morning to read this article and said to themselves, “WTF? Are these idiots on a suicide mission?”

BuckeyeSam on August 10, 2009 at 9:52 AM

They may be “Blue Dogs”, but they’re still Democrats, which means they are socialists at heart. They’ll toe the party line after their insincere protests that they put on for the rubes back home.

Vic on August 10, 2009 at 10:16 AM

I guess for Nan and Sten it’s “do or die” this year, or maybe “do and die”.

JimK on August 10, 2009 at 10:16 AM

Since when is opening a can of “whoop-ass” un-American.

right2bright on August 10, 2009 at 10:16 AM

Sarah Palin Hung in Effigy Ebay Auction

“In case you were wondering,” says Aviles (seller), “Her noose accessory will be included.”

Super! But will she be shipping in a coffin?

Maybe, says Aviles, in a pine box.

Pelosi loved this type of protest

faraway on August 10, 2009 at 10:16 AM

The only way now to turn on this woman is to ignore her statements and proceed with civilized dissent.

sherry on August 10, 2009 at 10:17 AM

If I were he, I’d have jumped on one of the lifeboats rather than remaining on the sinking U.S.S Pelosi.

BuckeyeSam on August 10, 2009 at 10:13 AM

It is my sense (no real insight into the mind of Hoyer) that this op-ed was written at the behest of the administration. Having the #1 and #2 Democrats in the by-line helps shore up the idea that Democrats are unified in supporting this legislation (which they are not).

highhopes on August 10, 2009 at 10:17 AM

Yes hey are. They want violence so that a national emergency can be declared which will cement their power and insure they will never be removed. Watch for it before 2010 because they can not afford to take a chance that people may vote them out. The coup will finalize just about this time next year.

jmarcure on August 10, 2009 at 9:58 AM

I agree. They are baiting us to violence. The problem is, they have bitten off more than they can chew, and they believe their own propaganda that we are just a bunch of dumb hicks. The British thought we were just a bunch of uncouth colonials, too.

However, I don’t think we will fall for it. I still think we can restore the constitution through peaceful protest.

bitsy on August 10, 2009 at 10:17 AM

I just wonder if the gays in her state are aware of this bill and what it contains. From what I understand is if this passes at some point “life style choices” will be a determining factor to health care. Those choices include (I would imagine) smoking, drinking, unhealthy eating, and unsafe sexual activity ect. How fast would they begin treatment for HIV/AIDS which is uncureable? If cancer patients are deamed unworthy of treatment and have to take a pain pill, then gays should not receive treatment because of their “life style choice”. That is wrong on so many levels for everyone involved.

milwife88 on August 10, 2009 at 10:17 AM

Could be a misguided attempt at blaming us un-Americans for the future failure of Obamacare. By pre-emptive strike to the now vocal majority, they are trying to save face to their constiuents for when this sucker swirls the bowl.

tru2tx on August 10, 2009 at 10:17 AM

At this point I think this is just to incite violence. They WANT the protesters to get violent. That’s the only logical conclusion.

Ampersand on August 10, 2009 at 10:11 AM

From Marxism 101

faraway on August 10, 2009 at 10:18 AM

I’ll be eating lunch in the Earth-warming, carbon-spewing car today. Rush should be on fire.

SouthernGent on August 10, 2009 at 10:19 AM

They keep this up and the American people are going to demand a congressional committee, in 2011, whose chairman asks each witness: Are you now or have you ever been a member of the Democratic Party?

Just sayin’…

TXUS on August 10, 2009 at 10:21 AM

NHC is 100% about removing the Bill of Rights. Once Uncle Sugar can hold the reins of health care, and the payments that get passed out, he can inject ‘Public-Health’ concerns about everything….e v e r y t h i n g.

From baseballs to bullets Uncle Sugar can tell you it is a public danger and must be controlled.

Yep, I’m un-American and just reported myself to flag@.

Limerick on August 10, 2009 at 10:21 AM

If hanging in effigy is such a terror, can I instead create a giant paper-mache Ogabe and invite people to throw shoes at it?

As I recall from a recent inauguration night, that is acceptable.

Bishop on August 10, 2009 at 10:21 AM

milwife88 on August 10, 2009 at 10:17 AM

You’re kidding, right? Since this bill is divorced from reality, and since sodomists are almost exclusively Democrats, don’t hold your breath awaiting penalties for buggery to appear.

Akzed on August 10, 2009 at 10:21 AM

On a boat to china!

blatantblue on August 10, 2009 at 10:12 AM

Just imagine what they could do for the Chinese.

heshtesh on August 10, 2009 at 10:22 AM

Are you now, or have you every been, a member of the Republican party?

Coming soon to Congress near you.

Browncoatone on August 10, 2009 at 10:23 AM

the subtitle to their oped should be
“the Day the Democratic Party died”..
seriously…they are speaking against everything they have always told me they believe in in all my time as a Dem
they have, dare I say it? jumped the shark…

ginaswo on August 10, 2009 at 10:24 AM

It’s the botox talking…

d1carter on August 10, 2009 at 10:24 AM

I think these arrogant idiots thought when they took over the White House they were going to take over the whole country too. They were absolutely stunned (and pi$$ed off) that the GOP didn’t turn into the sheeple that elected this fool and follow along with their socialist agenda. Well, it’s not going to work. They will fail, and fail miserably in every way. People don’t take kindly to being talked to in a condescending manner and they don’t like their partiotism being questioned just because they don’t want some boondoggle legislation passed that puts these feckless rumps in charge of our health care. This administration is a complete and utter failure and they know it, this vitriol coming from them is the proof. NO PIGS IN A POKE FOR US, thank you very much.

scalleywag on August 10, 2009 at 10:24 AM

They plan on pushing this baby forward….no matter what their constituents say about it!

You must overwhelm your rep. Many are so in the hip pockets of Pelosi & Hoyer that it won’t matter. What will matter is to vote the socialists out. Turn this
pile of crap around and flush it down the toilet…..

izoneguy on August 10, 2009 at 10:25 AM

Are you now, or have you every been, a member of the Republican party?

Just because I voted for everyone of the SOBs since Nixon doesn’t mean I meant it.

Limerick on August 10, 2009 at 10:25 AM

I’d really like to see people standing up at these town halls and start singing God Bless America

It would be awesome to watch the liberals have to sit there and mouth it with that look like they just sucked on a persimmon

Sugarbuzz on August 10, 2009 at 10:25 AM

Hey Nancy (I hear you hate to be called that), we all can’t get ‘front of the line’ treatment at the Military Hospital in Bethesda. Our healthcare matters to us as does our choice of doctor and weather WE decide if a loved one lives or dies on a ventillator or gets a certain treatment. Tell your lawyers friends to quit sueing the damn doctors for a gazillion dollars and maybe healthcare costs will come down.

Lawyers, you should hate Obamacare (a retread of HillaryCare), because who will you sue if the government panel makes a poor decision on someones care? I guess all the lawyers will need to be governement too then. How many of those do you think they’ll keep? hmmm?

This will put a myriad of doctors and lawyers into other practices so I guess with global warming etc. maybe you all can retrain as fertilizer company lawyers and represent deformed frogs.

johnnyU on August 10, 2009 at 10:25 AM

It’s the botox talking…

d1carter on August 10, 2009 at 10:24 AM

Nothing like a built in excuse.

heshtesh on August 10, 2009 at 10:26 AM

And I’m proud to be unAmerican,
where at least I know I’m free.
And I wont forget the men who died,
who gave that right to me.

And I gladly stand up,
next to you and defend her still today.
‘ Cause there ain’t no doubt I love this land,
God bless the USA.

faraway on August 10, 2009 at 10:26 AM

Everyone go to CNN.com and vote in the poll on the front page!!!

Townhall protests of Health Care are:

a. Being orchestrated by lobbyists

b. Ordinary citizens expressing their opinions

Funny, I dont rercall CNN reporting or even mentioning SEIU, ACORN, and other known union thugs who are known for a fact to cause a rucuss and do the bidding of people like Obama. THAT is organized.

bucsox79 on August 10, 2009 at 10:27 AM

I’m as cynical as the next conservative out there when it comes to dems and the MSM… but DAMN. I have honestly been SHOCKED each day for the last week or so by how low they are going. Just when I think they may try to walk back some of their statement they break out the “un-American” insult. This should dominate the news.

Ampersand on August 10, 2009 at 10:27 AM

But then again, the American people are not made of the same grit as our forefathers were…by and large.
Goodeye_Closed on August 10, 2009 at 10:15 AM

Bullshiite, let’s have some context for time and place.

Bishop on August 10, 2009 at 10:27 AM

faraway on August 10, 2009 at 10:26 AM

++

LibTired on August 10, 2009 at 10:27 AM

What a Bimbo. Nancy Bimbosi.

She forgets.

She only has power because we consent to being governed.

bitsy on August 10, 2009 at 10:28 AM

Look at this info from Open Secrets….

These dems have raked in the most cash from union contributions.

Hoyer tops the list with $3,596,358
Edward Kennedy is 2nd with $2,741,591
Pelosi is 3rd with $2,737,550

Unions Lobby to Thwart Health Care Deal Breaker

http://www.opensecrets.org/news/2009/07/unions-lobby-to-thwart-health.html

Download a list of contributions from labor PACs to all current members of Congress (including to their candidate committees and leadership PACs) since 1989 here:

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Just counter Pelosi and Hoyer un-American accusations with these facts. National Health Care is a Union Trojan Horse…..
The unions will use they tax free insurance status as a recruiting tool if National Health Care is set in place.

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izoneguy on August 10, 2009 at 10:28 AM

This should dominate the news.

Ampersand on August 10, 2009 at 10:27 AM

It will. That is their aim. They want to incite violence. They need video of us acting violently. So far, we are too smart.

faraway on August 10, 2009 at 10:29 AM

They may be “Blue Dogs”, but they’re still Democrats, which means they are socialists at heart. They’ll toe the party line after their insincere protests that they put on for the rubes back home.

Vic on August 10, 2009 at 10:16 AM

You’re likely right. But here in SW Ohio, Steve Driehaus, first-term Dem who was featured in two recent HA posts and who was swept in with Obama and who recently voted for cap-and-tax, will be one rep who’ll get sent packing in all events and certainly so if he backs Obamacare. And on that score, he had a lame editorial in the local paper and has been getting reamed ever since in letters to the editor. All anecdotal, but this clown ain’t going to survive.

BuckeyeSam on August 10, 2009 at 10:29 AM


Tell your lawyers friends to quit sueing the damn doctors for a gazillion dollars and maybe healthcare costs will come down.

Bingo! The true cause of the cost of healthcare. But why not do anything about tort reform? Because that won’t line anyone’s pockets.

scalleywag on August 10, 2009 at 10:31 AM

Will Jon Steward respond to Nancy the same way he responded to Palin when she made a comment, which she later retracted, about “real Americans.” I believe his response was some along the lines of “Franklin, Ugly, Charlie, Kite” You. We’ll see if he has any sense of intellectual honesty.

RedSoxNation on August 10, 2009 at 10:32 AM

Update: The boss notes that Hillary Clinton has slammed Pelosi and Hoyer for questioning the patriotism of dissenting Americans

I take back every negative comment I’ve ever made about Hillary being an elitist, self-centered hypocrite, now that she has risked her political career by taking this bold stand in support of ordinary patriotic American’s speaking out against Obama’s proposed health care legislation.

Thank you Hillary, for not being a hypocrite.

** tee hee **

Loxodonta on August 10, 2009 at 10:33 AM

Obama’s community organizing 101
- everything IS a crisis, otherwise it won’t incite the masses
- dismiss opposition on a technical basis, or through straw-men arguments, but NEVER on the facts

gatorboy on August 10, 2009 at 10:12 AM

And the converse, from Gandhi:

– First they insult you
– Then they ridicule you
– Then they fight you
– Then you win

I’d say we are right on target for victory now!

rockmom on August 10, 2009 at 10:34 AM

How many ACORN and SEIU thugs will be waiting for us in DC on 9/12? I am already working on my patience and ability to laugh off these idiots. It’s taking alot of work.

HoustonRight on August 10, 2009 at 10:34 AM

Update: The boss notes that Hillary Clinton has slammed Pelosi and Hoyer for questioning the patriotism of dissenting Americans
I take back every negative comment I’ve ever made about Hillary being an elitist, self-centered hypocrite, now that she has risked her political career by taking this bold stand in support of ordinary patriotic American’s speaking out against Obama’s proposed health care legislation.

Thank you Hillary, for not being a hypocrite.

** tee hee **

Loxodonta on August 10, 2009 at 10:33 AM

If only. That quote of Hillary is from 2003. You know, back when dissent was still fashionable.

bitsy on August 10, 2009 at 10:35 AM

“Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote!” Benjamin Franklin

VibrioCocci on August 10, 2009 at 10:34 AM

That is a great quote! I hadn’t heard that one before.

bitsy on August 10, 2009 at 10:38 AM

If only. That quote of Hillary is from 2003. You know, back when dissent was still fashionable.

bitsy on August 10, 2009 at

Do you mean that it’s okay for me to call Hillary “Thunder Thighs” again?

Loxodonta on August 10, 2009 at 10:39 AM

Could be a misguided attempt at blaming us un-Americans for the future failure of Obamacare. By pre-emptive strike to the now vocal majority, they are trying to save face to their constiuents for when this sucker swirls the bowl.

tru2tx on August 10, 2009 at 10:17 AM

I’m confused. The un-Americans during the elections were the “clingers” who viewed religion as something other than mythology and insisted on protectind Second Amendment rights. Now the un-Americans are the First Amendment crowd.

highhopes on August 10, 2009 at 10:39 AM

The bad news and the bad news, which do you want first?

Slow Job Growth and Inflation, but…

Those numbers will probably be good enough to enable President Obama to get re-elected, but his second term will be plagued by rising inflation, high interest rates, and unsustainable deficits, along with stubbornly high unemployment.

Mr. Joe on August 10, 2009 at 10:39 AM

Anyone want to move to Oklahoma to feel more like an American?
VibrioCocci on August 10, 2009 at 10:34 AM

The first faint lines in the sand are being drawn.

Bishop on August 10, 2009 at 10:40 AM

Do you mean that it’s okay for me to call Hillary “Thunder Thighs” again?

Loxodonta on August 10, 2009 at 10:39 AM

That’s Secretary Thunder Thighs.

highhopes on August 10, 2009 at 10:40 AM

Thank you Hillary, for not being a hypocrite.

** tee hee **

Loxodonta on August 10, 2009 at 10:33 AM

She said that while campaigning. If she said it today I’d be impressed.

scalleywag on August 10, 2009 at 10:40 AM

Hey Nancy!

I’ve got your answer right here, sweetheart:

“When in the course of human events…”

Perhaps you’ve heard it before?

I see your quote and raise you this:

Stand your ground. Don’t fire the first shot but if they want a war let it begin here, Capt John Parker, Lexington Green, April 19, 1775

bill30097 on August 10, 2009 at 10:41 AM

“The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of blessings;
the inherent virtue of socialism is the equal sharing of miseries.”

- Churchill

faraway on August 10, 2009 at 10:44 AM

That’s Secretary Thunder Thighs.

highhopes on August 10, 2009 at 10:40 AM

That’s Madam Thunder Thighs!

Did you notice that when Hillary danced in Africa, there was an increase in earthquake activity worldwide?

Loxodonta on August 10, 2009 at 10:46 AM

O/T Sort of

Boortz is going to talk to Rep. David Scott on the radio in a few minutes. He’s one of the folks from Congress who has had a melt down. Could be fun.

Cindy Munford on August 10, 2009 at 10:48 AM

Stand your ground. Don’t fire the first shot but if they want a war let it begin here, Capt John Parker, Lexington Green, April 19, 1775

Amen to that.

ted c on August 10, 2009 at 10:49 AM

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