Guess who’s funding ObamaCare advocates?

posted at 1:39 pm on August 10, 2009 by Ed Morrissey

Greg Sargent notes that a familiar face will start showering cash on organizations trying to build support for ObamaCare.  George Soros, who once pledged his entire fortune in an unsuccessful effort to unseat George Bush, has pledged another $5 million to overcome popular opposition to the government takeover of the health-care industry.  Sargent rightly notes that this will become a flashpoint for both sides of the divide:

In another sign of the urgency gripping the pro-health care reform camp, billionaire George Soros has pledged to sink $5 million into the fight, the group getting the money confirmed.

Soros — whose operation carefully guards the privacy of such donations — made the pledge to Health Care For America Now, the leading coalition of pro-reform groups, unions and providers, HCAN chief Richard Kirsch confirmed in an email that was forwarded to me. …

The Soros pledge is noteworthy, because both sides will seize on it. The right will say it shows the real astroturfing is coming from the pro-reform side — billionaire bogeyman Soros is bankrolling this fight!

The left will cite the donation to demand that HCAN show real results. Some on the left, such as blogger Jane Hamsher, have been asking why heavily-bankrolled HCAN hasn’t been able to secure more commitments from Dem members of Congress to stand firm behind a public option.

However, that group may run afoul of Rahm Emanuel and the White House.  Emanuel has demanded that HCAN and other advocacy groups focus their sights on Republicans and stop attacking vulnerable Democrats — which, in this case, would be those who have shown great reluctance to get on board with ObamaCare.  If HCAN takes Emanuel’s advice, it’s hard to see what they’ll use the money to do, other than buy advertising that strictly focuses on the issue.  That issue hasn’t played well thus far, and $5 million of advertising won’t make a dent in the opposition.

That’s where the pharmaceutical industry’s cash will come in handy:

The drug industry has authorized its lobbyists to spend as much as $150 million on television commercials supporting President Obama’s health care overhaul, beginning over the August Congressional recess, people briefed on the plans said Saturday.

The unusually large scale of the industry’s commitment to the cause helps explain some of a contentious back-and-forth playing out in recent days between the odd-couple allies over a deal that the White House struck with the industry in June to secure its support. The terms of the deal were not fully disclosed. Both sides had announced that the drug industry would contribute $80 billion over 10 years to the cost of the health care overhaul without spelling out the details.

With House Democrats moving to extract more than that just as the drug makers finalized their advertising plans, the industry lobbyists pressed the Obama administration for public reassurances that it had agreed to cap the industry’s additional costs at $80 billion. The White House, meanwhile, has struggled to mollify its most pivotal health industry ally without alienating Congressional Democrats who want to demand far more of the drug makers. White House officials could not immediately be reached for comment.

To give this some perspective, it helps to recall that John McCain spent $126 million on advertising for the entire general election campaign in 2008.  Why have the pharmaceuticals gone for ObamaCare in a big way?  Obama promised not to use Medicare’s market advantage to drive down prices any more than the $80 billion already pledged by the industry.  That’s basically price-fixing of a kind that the Federal Trade Commission would investigate if it involved a private-sector insurance giant.

Remind me again which side is Astroturfing and getting big, powerful firms funding their operation, and which one represents the actual sense of Americans on government-controlled health care.


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Gosh. But don’t dare call this AstroTurf, or too well-dressed.

This is authentic real American Hungarian, baby!

/sarc

Enoxo on August 10, 2009 at 1:40 PM

Businessmen are evil, unless they make fortunes from ruining economies!

eforhan on August 10, 2009 at 1:41 PM

Democrat scum at work.

There is no bigger threat to our country than the Democrat Party – none.

Only Barack Obama and his absolutely worthless, corrupt and incompetent Democrat Party can bring this country down.

NoDonkey on August 10, 2009 at 1:41 PM

Quite sparky for 79.

Limerick on August 10, 2009 at 1:41 PM

Does this egghead ever run low on money??

mobydutch on August 10, 2009 at 1:41 PM

Hey folks, if George Soros is sponsoring this bill, then you KNOW it is anti-American and socialist.

Christian Conservative on August 10, 2009 at 1:42 PM

i’m shocked! /cpt renault

weewilly on August 10, 2009 at 1:43 PM

Soros seems to have funded quite a lot of Obama over the past two years. Backroom strongarm tactics used to get the other “donors” in line, I am sure. The Chicago way. Has Rahm Emanuel written all over it.

coldwarrior on August 10, 2009 at 1:43 PM

On a positive side, Healthcare Reform must be in deep trouble if Soros is showing the strings/money between himself and Obamacare at this point.

cs89 on August 10, 2009 at 1:43 PM

It all comes back to 1825 K Street, my friends.

Michelle on August 10, 2009 at 1:43 PM

Look all the money in the world is nothing but lipstick for this pig.

Nothing is going to make surrendering your rights to Pelosi and Obama more appealing.

elduende on August 10, 2009 at 1:44 PM

Yeah, the debate is going to louder…it is the American citizens against our own government and it’s big dollar supporters. If Soros is for it, then I am against it.

d1carter on August 10, 2009 at 1:44 PM

Paid for by George Soros, and narcissistic friends of Barak Obama.

wildcat84 on August 10, 2009 at 1:45 PM

For nearly all of us National Socialism is a myth, some kind of Hollywood legend. Georgie lived it.

Limerick on August 10, 2009 at 1:46 PM

mobydutch,
No, this egghead does not run out of money. Keep an eye on the stock market. He makes gobs of money there I would guess.
L

letget on August 10, 2009 at 1:47 PM

Is this supposed to be shocking?

Upstater85 on August 10, 2009 at 1:47 PM

God I love Soros. We need more like him.

Terry Silver on August 10, 2009 at 1:47 PM

Soros is 79 years old? That’s pretty old. There may be a light at the end of this particular tunnel…..

skree on August 10, 2009 at 1:47 PM

Limerick on August 10, 2009 at 1:46 PM

And as a collaborator back then, seems he wants to return to those halcyon days once again.

coldwarrior on August 10, 2009 at 1:48 PM

Repeat in history…big businesses supported Hitler as well…thinking the government would make them rich, it was too late when the Nazis took power who then took over these same businesses.

Conservative Voice on August 10, 2009 at 1:48 PM

So how do the statists accept the support of “Big Pharma”? I think their money would bulster the argument against the Dem’s “reforms”.

WashJeff on August 10, 2009 at 1:49 PM

Big deal, Soros collaborated with the Nazis back in the day, might as well do it now.

Pelayo on August 10, 2009 at 1:50 PM

Soros is 79 years old? That’s pretty old. There may be a light at the end of this particular tunnel…..

skree on August 10, 2009 at 1:47 PM

Only if forced into Obamacare.

califdreamnred on August 10, 2009 at 1:50 PM

I’m all for businesses lobbying to keep the hands of government out of their business.
Its when they lobby to get the government in that I get suspicious.

Count to 10 on August 10, 2009 at 1:50 PM

Breaking:

Earlier today, Ezekiel Emanuel, top health care advisor to the Obama Administration, announced the Administration would propose additional health care legislation, an Act to Protect the Maximum Value of Every Human Life (Life Protection Act).

The Act is designed to protect and maximize the remaining value of lives of seniors too elderly for cost-effective medical treatment. It would provide for (1) a network of mandatory hospices for persons over 65, (2) nationalization of the hospice and undertaking sector, and (3) a federal agency responsible for assuming carcass custody, and processing, marketing and distribution of carcass products. The hospice provisions of the Act would ensure quality control of outcomes (nutritional value, flavor, tenderness of meat products) by mandated regimens of diet and physical behavior for hospice residents.

Its sponsors assert that The Life Protection Act will contain costs and add efficiencies to our health care system that will over ten years eliminate the federal deficit. It will also:
• Free up corn previously required for food supply for ethanol production, thereby reducing the cost of ethanol and lowering food prices for the poor and consumers in Third World countries.
• Add or save 15.2 million green jobs and rescue the economy from the brink of depression.

An amendment to the Life Protection Act would add mentally and physically handicapped persons, and children under three. Fetuses, however, would be separately regulated and reserved for the consumption of senior officials in the legislative and executive branches of the federal government.

petefrt on August 10, 2009 at 1:50 PM

coldwarrior on August 10, 2009 at 1:48 PM

Yep. He was smart enough to not run to Argentina. Diamondback, Timber, Sidewinder…..all the same critter.

Limerick on August 10, 2009 at 1:50 PM

The guy will stop at nothing to make drugs legal.

drjohn on August 10, 2009 at 1:50 PM

Those that did not know who Obama really was before , are starting to wake up to that reality now. Regarding Soros’ funding, there is a smell of desperation in the air. Barry and the gang know the American people don’t want this garbage and they don’t care.

kingsjester on August 10, 2009 at 1:51 PM

Repeat in history…big businesses supported Hitler as well…thinking the government would make them rich, it was too late when the Nazis took power who then took over these same businesses.

Conservative Voice on August 10, 2009 at 1:48 PM

Schindler’s List?

Count to 10 on August 10, 2009 at 1:51 PM

Its sponsors assert that The Life Protection Act will contain costs and add efficiencies to our health care system that will over ten years eliminate the federal deficit. It will also:
• Free up corn previously required for food supply for ethanol production, thereby reducing the cost of ethanol and lowering food prices for the poor and consumers in Third World countries.

Great. It will increase the cost of food here.

drjohn on August 10, 2009 at 1:52 PM

Remind me again which side is Astroturfing and getting big, powerful firms funding their operation, and which one represents the actual sense of Americans on government-controlled health care.

Polling data reveals that three of five Hot Air commenters assume this is a rhetorical request.

whitetop on August 10, 2009 at 1:52 PM

He’s so the opposite of unAmerican.

LibTired on August 10, 2009 at 1:52 PM

Never, ever forget that George Soros founded (and funded) MoveOn.org in the ’90s to spread lies about the anti-Clinton faction. Virtually every faux-patriotic group that slithers out of the Left’s subbasement traces their money back to this guy.

warbaby on August 10, 2009 at 1:53 PM

Someone has to pay for all these $50,000 per year jobs posted on craigslist

Plus unions must be repaid for sending their thugs around to beat up black conservatives

faraway on August 10, 2009 at 1:53 PM

All of this should be heavily investigated and reported on by these 24 hour news channels.
It’s sickening to know what I know and watch the silly coverage day after day.

bridgetown on August 10, 2009 at 1:53 PM

petefrt on August 10, 2009 at 1:50 PM

Yuck. Even as a joke.

Count to 10 on August 10, 2009 at 1:54 PM

If the SEIU gets a hold of the healthcare, you can bet it will become the Keystone Docs. The loweset of the low, nurses and docs will be caring for you. I say this as a nurse.

Someone said the other day, “somewhere Bill Ayers is smiling.” This is truth, SEIU is Bill Ayers.

tessa on August 10, 2009 at 1:54 PM

The guy will stop at nothing to make drugs legal.

drjohn on August 10, 2009 at 1:50 PM

That’s the least of our worries…

…I don’t want to be paying for abortions of any kind, and it looks like this might just be happening.

http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=MjBhNTBhNjYwMzYyMWJlNzk0NTA3ZWIzOTExYzdhM2Y=

Upstater85 on August 10, 2009 at 1:54 PM

Who’d a thunk it. The wizard behind the Anti-American/Anti-Capitalist curtain. Someone needs to put this a$$hat to sleep. Stat.

HornetSting on August 10, 2009 at 1:54 PM

I think the drug companies may well pull out of their deal with the White House. Getting screwed after offering up $80 BILLION isn’t going to play well in corporate headquarters.

As for Soros and his money, just proves the hypocrisy of the liberal Democrats.

GarandFan on August 10, 2009 at 1:55 PM

Is such advertising going to make a difference at this point. Is somebody rabidly against government takeover of healthcare really going to change their position because the drug makers are for it? Douobtful.

highhopes on August 10, 2009 at 1:55 PM

Soros is 79 years old? That’s pretty old. There may be a light at the end of this particular tunnel…..

skree on August 10, 2009 at 1:47 PM

Depends who gets his pot of gold after he goes to meet his maker….

journeyintothewhirlwind on August 10, 2009 at 1:55 PM

The guy will stop at nothing to make drugs legal.

drjohn on August 10, 2009 at 1:50 PM

That is only part of Soros’ Open Society schtick. Actually it was developed by Popper and Bergson. Socialist but without the BS about party control (in theory but we know how that will go).

Son of Pelayo

Pelayo on August 10, 2009 at 1:55 PM

So I’m losing track…now that Big Pharm is giving money to the Democrats, they’re the good guys again?

I need a score card to keep up.

bamaconservative on August 10, 2009 at 1:56 PM

Who’d a thunk it. The wizard behind the Anti-American/Anti-Capitalist curtain. Someone needs to put this a$$hat to sleep. Stat.

HornetSting on August 10, 2009 at 1:54 PM

We don’t euthanize people on the Goldest Platinumist Cadillac health plans…

Upstater85 on August 10, 2009 at 1:56 PM

As someone who works in the pharmaceutical field, I cannot fathom why our Lobby group is FOR this abomination.

They will be sorry very soon if this Stinker Bill passes.

omnipotent on August 10, 2009 at 1:56 PM

Soros is 79 years old? That’s pretty old. There may be a light at the end of this particular tunnel…..
skree on August 10, 2009 at 1:47 PM

Only the good die young. This Socialist megalomaniac may live forever.

kingsjester on August 10, 2009 at 1:57 PM

George Soros is my hero.

txag92 on August 10, 2009 at 1:58 PM

No, no, Soros just turned 48. He is the POTUS.

d1carter on August 10, 2009 at 1:58 PM

From the picture it looks like he’s dead already. Isn’t he?

DarkCurrent on August 10, 2009 at 1:58 PM

As someone who works in the pharmaceutical field, I cannot fathom why our Lobby group is FOR this abomination.

They will be sorry very soon if this Stinker Bill passes.

omnipotent on August 10, 2009 at 1:56 PM

Fascism. The top will make money while anyone that isn’t connected will be squeezed out. The Government makes out and the friends of the gov’t make out.

Upstater85 on August 10, 2009 at 1:59 PM

If the SEIU gets a hold of the healthcare, you can bet it will become the Keystone Docs. The loweset of the low, nurses and docs will be caring for you. I say this as a nurse.

tessa on August 10, 2009 at 1:54 PM

Paramedics and nurses with competence levels like airport security workers?

petefrt on August 10, 2009 at 1:59 PM

From the picture it looks like he’s dead already. Isn’t he?
DarkCurrent on August 10, 2009 at 1:58 PM

Just his soul.

kingsjester on August 10, 2009 at 1:59 PM

From the picture it looks like he’s dead already. Isn’t he?

DarkCurrent on August 10, 2009 at 1:58 PM

Yeah, you’re right. He kind of does look like Helen Thomas.

Upstater85 on August 10, 2009 at 1:59 PM

Big deal, Soros collaborated with the Nazis back in the day, might as well do it now.

Pelayo on August 10, 2009 at 1:50 PM

Soros IS evil and a real threat to American democracy, but was 3 years old when the National Socialists took power in Germany and 15 when they were defeated and removed at the end of WWII

Focus on what Wrongs he continues to actually do instead of bringing up the ‘Nazi’ red herring. Obama is his bee-yatch, and that needs to be looked into much more closely, as Michelle notes in a previous post on this thread

Janos Hunyadi on August 10, 2009 at 1:59 PM

kingsjester on August 10, 2009 at 1:59 PM

Soros has a soul?

FontanaConservative on August 10, 2009 at 2:00 PM

Soros has a soul?

FontanaConservative on August 10, 2009 at 2:00 PM

He just isn’t in possession of it…

Upstater85 on August 10, 2009 at 2:01 PM

FontanaConservative on August 10, 2009 at 2:00 PM

Not anymore. He sold it.

kingsjester on August 10, 2009 at 2:01 PM

We all declare for liberty; but in using the same word we do not all mean the same thing. With some the word liberty may mean for each man to do as he pleases with himself, and the product of his labor; while with others, the same word many mean for some men to do as they please with other men, and the product of other men’s labor. Here are two, not only different, but incompatible things, called by the same name – liberty. And it follows that each of the things is, by the respective parties, called by two different and incompatible names – liberty and tyranny.
Abraham Lincoln

Speakup on August 10, 2009 at 2:02 PM

I’m all for businesses lobbying to keep the hands of government out of their business.
Its when they lobby to get the government in that I get suspicious.

Count to 10 on August 10, 2009 at 1:50 PM

Are liberals blind? Can they not see that this man does not have America’s best interests at heart?

TXMomof3 on August 10, 2009 at 2:02 PM

Are liberals blind? Can they not see that this man does not have America’s best interests at heart?

TXMomof3 on August 10, 2009 at 2:02 PM

Do liberals have America’s best interests at heart?

I guess it depends on how you look at things.

Upstater85 on August 10, 2009 at 2:03 PM

Just for giggles, I decided to follow the White House on Twitter.

The Twits in the WH are using Twitter to hard sell ObamaCare.

How is the RNC countering that channel of propaganda?

Is anybody thinking the ObamaCare won’t be unionized from top to bottom? (In the interests of cost control, naturally…) It worked so well for Detroit.

shaken on August 10, 2009 at 2:04 PM

Janos Hunyadi on August 10, 2009 at 1:59 PM

I raised it merely to bring to light the “dyed-ion-the-wool” character of George Soros.

And yes, he is a clear danger in the present day…money speaks…and Soros has been dumping a lot of it on “progressive” causes…MoveOn, Media matters, and a lot of other “foundations” that have been working overtime to not only elect Obama but keep the Left at the top of the food chain.

coldwarrior on August 10, 2009 at 2:04 PM

mobydutch on August 10, 2009 at 1:41 PM

No, because Id bet dollars to donuts that Georgie is the one behind tanking the dollar. He did the same thing in the UK. Look up ‘Black Wednesday’ and you will see what a despicable cretin Soros is.

Wolftech on August 10, 2009 at 2:04 PM

TXMomof3 on August 10, 2009 at 2:02 PM

They don’t care. Liberal Politicians care about the expansion of their influence, wealth, and power while proclaiming that they care about the average American.

kingsjester on August 10, 2009 at 2:05 PM

Would I love to be a fly on the wall when this pathetic excuse for a human being finally comes face to face with his maker and is asked to make an accounting for all the blessings he received during his life.

Fatal on August 10, 2009 at 2:05 PM

No, because Id bet dollars to donuts that Georgie is the one behind tanking the dollar. He did the same thing in the UK. Look up ‘Black Wednesday’ and you will see what a despicable cretin Soros is.

Wolftech on August 10, 2009 at 2:04 PM

Well, it doesn’t help that we keep printing $’s.

Upstater85 on August 10, 2009 at 2:05 PM

The family changed its name in 1936 from Schwartz to Soros, in response to growing anti-semitism with the rise of Fascism.

How appropriate that Soros who was persecuted and were victims of thugs & fascists……is now the thug & fascists.

hypocrite.

portlandon on August 10, 2009 at 2:06 PM

BTW, HCAN is funded by the Tides Foundation, which should be no surprise.

JammieWearingFool on August 10, 2009 at 2:06 PM

Soros is 79 years old? That’s pretty old. There may be a light at the end of this particular tunnel…..

skree on August 10, 2009 at 1:47 PM

Think he’s going to go to end of life counseling or be handed pills for all his ailments?

wildcat84 on August 10, 2009 at 2:06 PM

Oh boy, who woulda thought someone like Soros would be behind Obama and his Chicago style politics of in your face bullying, insults and lies? He’s going to go down in history as the most disliked and unbelievable president ever. Whether he wins this battle or not.

scalleywag on August 10, 2009 at 2:07 PM

wildcat84 on August 10, 2009 at 2:06 PM

A 9mm and cyanide, while sitting on a couch in his bunker would seem more appropriate.

coldwarrior on August 10, 2009 at 2:07 PM

As someone who works in the pharmaceutical field, I cannot fathom why our Lobby group is FOR this abomination.

omnipotent on August 10, 2009 at 1:56 PM

Pharma was bought off. As Ed said above…

Obama promised not to use Medicare’s market advantage to drive down prices any more than the $80 billion already pledged by the industry. That’s basically price-fixing of a kind that the Federal Trade Commission would investigate if it involved a private-sector insurance giant.

Also How the White House’s Deal With Big Pharma Undermines Democracy By Robert Reich|Aug 9, 2009, 5:30 PM, and

Robert Reich Assails Obama Deal with Big Pharma as ‘Assault on Democracy’

petefrt on August 10, 2009 at 2:08 PM

Check this thread on Sweetness and Light. The director of HCAN worked with Rahm Emanuel in Illinois. Also, they get funding from Tides Foundation, according to their web page. Which means they are also likely getting funding from Heinz Foundation who is a major donor of Tides.

crosspatch on August 10, 2009 at 2:09 PM

How appropriate that Soros who was persecuted and were victims of thugs & fascists……is now the thug & fascists.

hypocrite.

portlandon on August 10, 2009 at 2:06 PM

You become what you fear

skree on August 10, 2009 at 2:09 PM

The Basij has to get money from somewhere.

Rode Werk on August 10, 2009 at 2:10 PM

Who’d a thunk it. The wizard behind the Anti-American/Anti-Capitalist curtain. Someone needs to put this a$$hat to sleep. Stat.

HornetSting on August 10, 2009 at 1:54 PM

I wonder what kind of protection he has around him – or if it’s even an issue to him.

Never mind.

Only the good die young. This POS will live forever.

VibrioCocci on August 10, 2009 at 2:10 PM

I think its time this crook was rounded up and handed over to the French.

He has caused enough trouble in this world.

Dave R. on August 10, 2009 at 2:11 PM

Looks like the big hood (George Soros) has climbed out from his rathole once again to try and save the bacon of the little hood (Lord Barry).

Percy_Peabody on August 10, 2009 at 2:12 PM

For what it’s worth, anyone who has Progressive Insurance on anything (car, house, life, whatever) is shoveling money into Soros’ pockets, since he and a cohort own it. Thus, the “progressive” name.

As a result, I wouldn’t use Progressive insurance to insure my cat.

bradley11 on August 10, 2009 at 2:12 PM

He sure looks like Rodney Dangerfield.

bridgetown on August 10, 2009 at 2:12 PM

Does this egghead ever run low on money??

mobydutch on August 10, 2009 at 1:41 PM

Does satan?

Soros makes his billions by creating impoverishment. His talent, if it can be called that, is to destabilize national economies by creating unsurmountable debt load, and then cashing in. Like he’s doing with the U.S. economy: the more destabilization, the greater the economic vulnerability and presto, Soros owns just about everyone.

Lourdes on August 10, 2009 at 2:12 PM

crosspatch on August 10, 2009 at 2:09 PM

scary stuff

bridgetown on August 10, 2009 at 2:13 PM

bradley11 on August 10, 2009 at 2:12 PM

Why I dumped Progressive several years ago.

coldwarrior on August 10, 2009 at 2:13 PM

bradley11 on August 10, 2009 at 2:12 PM

Amen! A couple of years ago my wife showed me a quote from Progressive where we would save about $80 a month. This evil capitalist burned it in the fireplace.

Limerick on August 10, 2009 at 2:13 PM

Soros — whose operation carefully guards the privacy of such donations — made the pledge to Health Care For America Now, the leading coalition of pro-reform groups, unions and providers, HCAN chief Richard Kirsch confirmed in an email that was forwarded to me. …

“Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain”

Speakup on August 10, 2009 at 2:14 PM

Well, I feel like getting an angry mob together and goosestepping over to Soros’s house and stomping him with my jackboots. Somebody alert Nancy.

HornetSting on August 10, 2009 at 2:14 PM

As a result, I wouldn’t use Progressive insurance to insure my cat.

bradley11 on August 10, 2009 at 2:12 PM

That’s an very good place to start. Also not patronizing businesses associated with “progressivism,” any and all.

That sorta’ sinks many in the IT area, unfortunately, as also entertainment, but I do make an effort to purchase, use and otherwise patronize products from companies and individuals who make a more reasoned stand in their company and personal politics. I do avoid patronizing any who are “ardent Leftists”.

Lourdes on August 10, 2009 at 2:14 PM

Although I’d like to see Big Pharma to pull out of its deal, I suppose I wouldn’t mind seeing those sell outs blow $150 million in a losing effort.

If ever there were an argument to stand up to big government and big business, this is it. Control by either one is dangerous; control by a combination of the two is frightening.

BuckeyeSam on August 10, 2009 at 2:15 PM

As a result, I wouldn’t use Progressive insurance to insure my cat.

bradley11 on August 10, 2009 at 2:12 PM

My cat takes great offense to this sentence, as if she is less than human or something. :)

HornetSting on August 10, 2009 at 2:16 PM

Depends who gets his pot of gold after he goes to meet his maker….

satan will keep what already belongs to him.

UNREPENTANT CONSERVATIVE CAPITOLIST on August 10, 2009 at 2:16 PM

Although I’d like to see Big Pharma to pull out of its deal, I suppose I wouldn’t mind seeing those sell outs blow $150 million in a losing effort.

If ever there were an argument to stand up to big government and big business, this is it. Control by either one is dangerous; control by a combination of the two is frightening.

BuckeyeSam on August 10, 2009 at 2:15 PM

Losing effort?

I think they know exactly what they are doing. They are willing to take a hit to cut back on their competition.

Upstater85 on August 10, 2009 at 2:17 PM

I don’t see how his money is going to make a difference, given public opinion today, tomorrow and next month. If it’s to fund the minions to hit the street and show support, big deal. If he plans on buying up every health insurance entity in this country, well then we have a problem.

sherry on August 10, 2009 at 2:18 PM

petefrt on August 10, 2009 at 1:50 PM

Obviously Sarah turned over a rock and showed America, whether it wanted to see or not, what very very ugly thing lurked under it…”death panel”

CCRWM on August 10, 2009 at 2:19 PM

Amen! A couple of years ago my wife showed me a quote from Progressive where we would save about $80 a month. This evil capitalist burned it in the fireplace.

Limerick on August 10, 2009 at 2:13 PM

You have to project costs over time (not that you don’t, just sayin’…). An offer may look great but the consequences may just be terrible. So I look suspiciously on any offer that promises great-great without any details as to what’s implied and to be anticipated afterward.

Once I find a company, product, individual, service, etc. that is reliable over time, makes reasonable adjustments to pricing OVER TIME (no gouges, no continued insults) while maintaining a product/service I rely on without too many complications, I stick with them (like many consumers).

But I do today avoid any and all who are aligned with the Progressive/Leftwing politics.

Lourdes on August 10, 2009 at 2:19 PM

Phrama back out?

Plueeeeeesssssssssssseeeeeeee….#1 buyer of coffee in the world, U.S. Government. #1 buyer of meds in the world (after BarryCare), U.S. Government.

Pharma knows where the volume orders are, and they aren’t from your local Rx.

Limerick on August 10, 2009 at 2:20 PM

coldwarrior on August 10, 2009 at 2:04 PM

If Soros is thoroughly investigated, he can be jailed for numerous crimes; failing that, he can at least be exposed for funding–directly and indirectly–literally hundreds of groups in this country which are all working to destroy our economy, our culture, and our society.

He seems to have learned more from the Soviet regimes than from the Nazis, and the whole Nazi Thing will only be a distraction.

Janos Hunyadi on August 10, 2009 at 2:21 PM

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