WH mega-shill: Obama didn’t have a different position on single-payer as a Senator
posted at 8:16 pm on August 9, 2009 by Allahpundit
He didn’t? Sure sounds like he did to Kurtz, who’s appropriately dismissive of her lame attempt at spin. The irony is, if our suspicions about ObamaCare as a trojan horse for socialized medicine are correct, then she’s actually right: The One does have the same goal now as he did then, namely, a single-payer system with private insurers ultimately driven from the marketplace. Riddle me this, though. If Obama really has soured on single-payer over the past five years, precisely why has he soured on it? I don’t think I’ve ever heard that explained, which makes me think he’s “soured” on it only insofar as he doesn’t — yet — have the political capital needed to push it through. It’s not that he’s opposed in principle, in other words, merely that it’s not expedient at this particular moment — which makes it an awful lot like his position on gay marriage, another subject where neither side believes he really believes what he claims to believe. In which case, why should we believe him about single-payer?
Kudos to Kurtz for at least noting that the media would be having an aneurysm over the Obama snitch list if Bush had done it; Douglass thankfully doesn’t contradict him, although she does go on to lie about the measure. See the second clip below from How the World Works for the goods on that. Exit question: Speaking of liberal journalists who’ve dropped the mask to become paid mouthpieces for The One, when is Sullivan finally going to take the plunge? Exposing the great Trig birth conspiracy would take on new urgency once it had the official White House imprimatur on it, no?
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Obama is such a sociopath, that I don’t think I could even believe him if he said in his own words, “I will not pursue a single-payer plan”. There has been no transparency, so there is no trust.
pjean on August 9, 2009 at 8:20 PM
one journalist needs to ask Obama in a clear way: Do you oppose a single payer system for the USA?
rob verdi on August 9, 2009 at 8:21 PM
Next on Jerry Springer: Lying Liars and the Lying Liars That Work For Them.
And on a Sunday, too. Trash.
kingsjester on August 9, 2009 at 8:21 PM
Wow, what a shock that someone who spoke from a teleprompter for a living would become enamored with someone who speaks from a teleprompter. I think it’s a bit much to expect her to actually be able to think on her feet.
Cindy Munford on August 9, 2009 at 8:22 PM
Why do you HA guys continue to link to articles by Kathleen Parker on the Main Page? Hasn’t she shown that at least half of her “analyzing” is in bad faith?
Same goes to Noonan and Brooks.
mockmook on August 9, 2009 at 8:23 PM
The naked communist
Denniscat on August 9, 2009 at 8:23 PM
Such liars. Who knew you had to sell your soul to work in the White House. I’d love to see these people try and talk this way under oath in front of a judge. Maybe one day……….
sherry on August 9, 2009 at 8:24 PM
Wow, ugly AND stupid.
Red Cloud on August 9, 2009 at 8:24 PM
If she can’t convince Kurtz she won’t be able to convince any ‘independent’ voters
Janos Hunyadi on August 9, 2009 at 8:24 PM
They seem to have forgotten about the internet. Lying doesn’t work when you don’t control the information flow. There is no “memory hole” – yet, anyways.
kc8ukw on August 9, 2009 at 8:24 PM
Goebbels is smiling.
jukin on August 9, 2009 at 8:25 PM
If they won’t tell the truth about Dear Leader’s position even if it was a couple of years ago…then why should we believe them on the stuff that is life or death?
d1carter on August 9, 2009 at 8:25 PM
Does it smell a little fishy in here?
forest on August 9, 2009 at 8:26 PM
Good point. Amazing that they can’t even see the hole they are digging for themselves, rapidly.
sherry on August 9, 2009 at 8:28 PM
He must really be sticking it to her good.
SouthernGent on August 9, 2009 at 8:28 PM
Obama was a Senator?
I must have missed that.
forest on August 9, 2009 at 8:29 PM
Here, here on Brooks. He was awful on Meet the Press this morning. What a tool. That a**hole needs to get out of Manhattan more often.
BuckeyeSam on August 9, 2009 at 8:29 PM
Too bad Douglass can’t destroy the Kathleen Selebius video where she talks about destroying private health care insurance companies.
Douglass is like Obama. You can tell when she’s lying. Her lips are moving.
GarandFan on August 9, 2009 at 8:32 PM
They keep saying these people are lying about the bill, but the truth is half of its supporters do not even know what is in the thing.
In fact, there are several bills, each of them a thousand pages long. That is why people finding fault are accused of lying, they are the ones actually reading the bill.
What is that you say? It funds abortions, takes money out of your checking account, rations care…etc…the supporters are oblivious to all this. They assume these are lies when in fact it is the truth.
Terrye on August 9, 2009 at 8:33 PM
Boy, I wonder how many hummers this lady is passing out to the WH staff?
ted c on August 9, 2009 at 8:33 PM
naww, that was just the title he held while he was running for president. It helped pay da bills.
ted c on August 9, 2009 at 8:35 PM
Yes if he changed his view on single payer he should explain why.
CWforFreedom on August 9, 2009 at 8:35 PM
Linda Douglass, you’re a filthy whore.
JohnGalt23 on August 9, 2009 at 8:35 PM
Nice, I caught that when I watched the interview first, I said outloud “you’re not!!!”.
What a incredible collections of stooges.
Hog Wild on August 9, 2009 at 8:36 PM
I don’t know about you guys, but I’m getting darn tired of people telling me a duck isn’t a duck when I can clearly see the darn thing swimming and hear it quacking. As much as these people think I do, I don’t live in 1984.
jimmy2shoes on August 9, 2009 at 8:36 PM
How come there aren’t any O’Donnell types that will grill lying sacks of $*#! like this?
Dr. ZhivBlago on August 9, 2009 at 8:37 PM
Her position on this issue is bent over and cheeks spread, just like she was for Democrats when she worked for the MSM.
Why anyone bothers to even notice what these people say anymore is the real issue.
Anyone associated with the Democrat Party lies for a living. That’s the sum total of their job description.
NoDonkey on August 9, 2009 at 8:37 PM
Check this CNN video Allah
Dem Congressman tells protestors to take two pills and come back in the morning.
William Amos on August 9, 2009 at 8:39 PM
Wow … what a liar.
HondaV65 on August 9, 2009 at 8:41 PM
Socialists smile when they lie.
Buckeye Babe on August 9, 2009 at 8:42 PM
It’s just scary hearing a representative of the government lie like that. It’s like something straight out of Animal Farm.
DarkKnight3565 on August 9, 2009 at 8:43 PM
Ok, again it just amazes me how this cow can sit there and LIE THROUGH HER TEETH!!!!
Hey, Linda!!! What you are is a goddamned propagandist!!! Pure and simple.
‘What all of us in the administration are doing is getting paid obscene amounts of(tax payer) money to get on camera and FLAT OUT F#*%*ing lie! and push Dear Leader’s screwed up socialist power grab bull$hit!!’
God this $hit really pisses me off….
BigWyo on August 9, 2009 at 8:45 PM
I am just shocked that a CNN employee did such a tough interview. I am impressed that Kurtz asked such probing questions and exposed the hypocrisy of her statements. Way to go Howard! Also, she is a paid shill, who has lost all credibility by towing the administration’s lie.
TXMomof3 on August 9, 2009 at 8:45 PM
B-HO’s views don’t “change” per se. He merely holds two different, mutually exclusive, diametrically opposing viewpoints at the same time.
Duh…
Mojave Mark on August 9, 2009 at 8:46 PM
Allah: you should add a clip from Beck’s Friday show. One of his male staffers dressed up to look like Douglass–blond wig, pantsuit, and glasses–to spoof her YouTube video. I forget. The staffer called himself something like Beck’s Director of Disinformation of Disinformation about Information or some such thing. It was pretty funny.
BuckeyeSam on August 9, 2009 at 8:46 PM
I love these guys! You can’t make this stuff up. I hope they keep it up. They obviously don’t know the first rule of holes. When you’re in one, stop digging. They make Nixon look like a saint. Sheesh.
sheriff246 on August 9, 2009 at 8:47 PM
BO’s supporters and the media (a redundancy, I confess) call it nuance, I believe.
BuckeyeSam on August 9, 2009 at 8:48 PM
As soon as he gets a guarantee that the White House restrooms will have glory holes.
Jim Treacher on August 9, 2009 at 8:52 PM
I call it “Shut Up! Be Happy!”
Ozprey on August 9, 2009 at 8:53 PM
I really felt sorry for her. This is what a cultist looks like. Very scary.
faraway on August 9, 2009 at 8:54 PM
You can’t believe a word coming from that corrupt administration . . . they’re all pathological liars and hard core Marxists/socialists. If the elected representatives don’t stop this train wreck from happening this country will slide into revolt and chaos and will cease to exist.
rplat on August 9, 2009 at 8:54 PM
He has to tell this lie in order to get DemocratCare passed. If he came out and said he was for a 100% government takeover of our health care system (which he is), it would be DOA as soon as it hit the floor.
Dave R. on August 9, 2009 at 8:54 PM
As pjean notes, how could we believe him even if he said he had come to be opposed to single payer — he’s lied about everything in his life at one time or another.
johnsteele on August 9, 2009 at 8:54 PM
Oh goody! We can look forward to yet another site by this administration set up to further spread his propaganda about health care.
yogi41 on August 9, 2009 at 8:55 PM
Dang! That was crazy. People need to calm down.
I can only imagine when the Supreme Court gets more balanced….how crazy the debate over abortion is going to be. You think the health care debate has gotten heated? People need to discuss things calmly…not shouting.
terryannonline on August 9, 2009 at 8:55 PM
Pearls of wisdom from Linda Douglass:
“Well, you know, one of the things we learned during the campaign was that if you give people all the facts, they become better informed.”
Stop the presses! We have a discovery. Having all the facts makes someone become better informed. Get that lady a Nobel Prize for Peace … or something.
“What we discovered is if we countered them with the real facts, people really paid attention.”
Now, we’re not sure if the facts she was talking about first were “real facts” or “fake facts” (though we know that she was referring to lies in both quotes, since she doesn’t really know what a fact is, but I do appreciate the moron stressign “real” so that we know how tenuous her grasp of the word “fact” is.
This is beyond pathetic.
progressoverpeace on August 9, 2009 at 8:56 PM
Allah seems to view them as his ideological peers.
progressoverpeace on August 9, 2009 at 8:57 PM
This whore needs to be sent to the Death Panel.
Thumbs up or thumbs down?
BPD on August 9, 2009 at 8:57 PM
That’s okay, forest, as Obama apparently missed it, too.
Dave R. on August 9, 2009 at 8:58 PM
These people aren’t even “misleading” anymore.
They’re blatant liars. And they’ll get away with it in the end.
Question them? You’re a paid mob shill.
Understatement.
JetBoy on August 9, 2009 at 8:58 PM
“These are not the droids you’re looking for.”
Ridiculous. Lie to me more, please, you hack.
Techie on August 9, 2009 at 8:58 PM
Must be a lot of botox in Douglas’ face. Makes it easier to lie with a frozen face.
red131 on August 9, 2009 at 8:59 PM
Jim Treacher on August 9, at 8:52 PM
Heh. That’s gonna leave a mark–I hope.
irongrampa on August 9, 2009 at 8:59 PM
O is a proven liar and will say anything necessary to influence people in his direction. He seems to be one of those liars who can actually convince themselves that they didn’t say it or if they did, were misinterpreted. That’s a gift–a dangerous and slightly sociopathic gift.
jeanie on August 9, 2009 at 8:59 PM
Wow, Kurtz grilling an Obamagandist? I didn’t think he had it in him.
Dave R. on August 9, 2009 at 8:59 PM
Grow up.
terryannonline on August 9, 2009 at 8:59 PM
I’m on to you, Fräulein Linda Douglass, or should I call you, Private Helga Geerhart.
Michelle Dubois on August 9, 2009 at 9:00 PM
I would be willing to bet big money without any fear of losing a dime of it that somewhere in her home, Linda Douglass has a shrine of sorts set up to pay homage to her idol and one true inspiration…….Baghdad Bob.
pilamaye on August 9, 2009 at 9:00 PM
I keep chalking this up to Saul Alinsky, but did he ever write a book for his “radicals” when the middle class wants to string up those who propagate his Marxism?
StevefromMKE on August 9, 2009 at 9:01 PM
???
TXMomof3 on August 9, 2009 at 9:02 PM
Alinsky may not scale to tens of millions of angry Americans.
faraway on August 9, 2009 at 9:02 PM
No.
BPD on August 9, 2009 at 9:02 PM
Megatons of douchebaggery.
ICBM on August 9, 2009 at 9:02 PM
If there is no accountability for this crap…………
………. then what’s the issue?
They are just going to gin up the propaganda mill and use our tax dollars to fund their tyranny unless they are hit hard……….
……….. I mean hard in their political power.
Seven Percent Solution on August 9, 2009 at 9:03 PM
You DONT want to know
William Amos on August 9, 2009 at 9:03 PM
“Political language. . . is designed to make lies sound truthful and murder respectable, and to give an appearance of solidity to pure wind.” Orwell
IF BHO can make some believe that what he said he wanted is not what he wanted then how can we tell what he wants??
rebuzz on August 9, 2009 at 9:08 PM
Attack video, you must be joking Howie.
Showing a video of Obama speaking, showing him in his own words saying he is a proponent of single payer, is an attack?
OK, I’m clear now.
…… Stating zee truth ist Verbotten
fogw on August 9, 2009 at 9:09 PM
Where is the Justice Department on this!!???
What White House connections got ACORN & SEIU mobilized?
All kinds of laws being broken. He’s President, NOT KING!
Jeff from WI on August 9, 2009 at 9:10 PM
We can tell, the Axelrod astro-turfed cannot. And we already know he’s lying pretty much about everything…
Ozprey on August 9, 2009 at 9:12 PM
They are preparing for show trials against the intelligence community.
thomasaur on August 9, 2009 at 9:13 PM
Who does Linda Douglas think is the audience for a show like this…can she be so ignorant as to think that we don’t notice that she doesn’t answer a question without either ignoring the main point or spewing talking points for her boss.
Did Kurtz out an anonymous blogger …Naked Emperor News?
CCRWM on August 9, 2009 at 9:13 PM
We need to keep this woman front and center, she is the best thing going against the Democrat Party. She is an abomnable liar, and even better she can’t keep track of what she is saving. The more people get to see how horrible the bureaucrats appointed by President Obama are, the more they will realize what a horror the Democrat Party really is.
They more they try to deny facts and demonize the people pointing them out the more they lose the public’s trust.
Rode Werk on August 9, 2009 at 9:13 PM
L’tat, c’est moi.
Luka on August 9, 2009 at 9:14 PM
now that their slate is clean clearing the Panther fellas.
Ozprey on August 9, 2009 at 9:14 PM
Hmmm
“Shill”
I would have thought another name more appropriate.
Upstater85 on August 9, 2009 at 9:18 PM
Our current Justice Department can best be described as soldiers who take orders from the Don.
Chicago-style law and order.
fogw on August 9, 2009 at 9:19 PM
Hahaha
I think a hole would be too big, though.
Upstater85 on August 9, 2009 at 9:21 PM
Our nation is now under the control of morons and psychopaths. What could go wrong!
Luka on August 9, 2009 at 9:22 PM
The video didn’t play for me…
CCRWM on August 9, 2009 at 9:23 PM
lol, I thought we were talking about Barney for a sec…
Ozprey on August 9, 2009 at 9:23 PM
In the spirit of Treacher’s response, I’d have to say Sullivan is too busy soliciting uh hmmm cough Bear cough Back
Upstater85 on August 9, 2009 at 9:24 PM
Sorry, I never learned Mandarin Chinese
Jeff from WI on August 9, 2009 at 9:24 PM
Bawney isn’t worthy of the Glory Hole… or so says his Dom.
“Lick my boots!”
Upstater85 on August 9, 2009 at 9:24 PM
I was waiting for Kurtz to just say, “How can you sit there and lie to me like that?” I swear that’s what he was getting at when he was trying to get her to remember HER days as a reporter.
Candy Slice on August 9, 2009 at 9:25 PM
What laws are being broken?
ps: this isn’t a challenge to your honesty or anything. I’m just ignorant of any laws that would be broken myself.
Ampersand on August 9, 2009 at 9:26 PM
So, does Linda know she’ll burn eternally in hell for being a baby killers mouth piece?
Jeff from WI on August 9, 2009 at 9:26 PM
Went to Urban Dictionary, thanks guys. You should have seen my husband’s face when I asked him what a teabagger was.
TXMomof3 on August 9, 2009 at 9:26 PM
RICO laws, for restriction of peoples civil rights.
Jeff from WI on August 9, 2009 at 9:27 PM
Some one should tell this commie b!%@& to piss off. Everyone knows she’s a liar now.
lanesmerge on August 9, 2009 at 9:28 PM
Urban Dictionary should be renamed, The Names of Lefties.
Upstater85 on August 9, 2009 at 9:29 PM
Let’s start with inciting a riot and work backwards from there.
thomasaur on August 9, 2009 at 9:30 PM
Notice they never show the 2003 clips (there are at least 2) where he says to anthe audience that he wants and belives in single payer? CNN isn’t quite that ballsy…
CCRWM on August 9, 2009 at 9:31 PM
Remember, CNN has the ball-titude of Anderson Cooper.
Upstater85 on August 9, 2009 at 9:32 PM
Works for me. But that SEIU thug clearly restricted that mans civil rights. The race name calling while assaulting him just moves it up to a hate crime.
Jeff from WI on August 9, 2009 at 9:34 PM
Do you have a link? now I want to know too…
CCRWM on August 9, 2009 at 9:35 PM
Answer: Let be be clear, As I have said before….Yes (inside voice “for now”)
tjexcite on August 9, 2009 at 9:36 PM
RATED R!!! Proceed with caution.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=glory%20hole
Upstater85 on August 9, 2009 at 9:36 PM
It appears that the Obama administration is now operating under the assumption that if an obvious lie is repeated often enough it may eventually become perceived as being the truth. Sort of a “Your focus determines your reality” kind of thing.
Hellrider on August 9, 2009 at 9:37 PM
I imagine that when intellectually honest people just see little snippets like that from CNN they are going to go to Naken Emperor News for the full clip…watch it…and realize that CNN did a propagandist editing job and hopefully get mad…
CCRWM on August 9, 2009 at 9:38 PM
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