Quotes of the day
posted at 9:40 pm on August 9, 2009 by Allahpundit
“Everyone seems to ignore that Pelosi started this, saying town hall participants were showing up with swastikas, etc. That’s calling them Nazis, as Dick Durbin referred to our Gitmo interrogators from the Senate floor. I’ve been listening to the left compare George W. Bush to Hitler for eight years. I’ve been listening to Democrats and the left compare conservatism to Nazis my whole career. This time I responded. In kind, by comparing the radical left policies of the Nazis to today’s radical left leadership of the Democrat Party. I’m not surprised they don’t like it.”
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What about shark cage?
Upstater85 on August 9, 2009 at 11:08 PM
Upstater85: Just ask Brooks to go out on deck,with no saftey
line,for a water sample,in 75 foot waves,lock th
e door,a wait an hour!!:)Tee-hee.
canopfor on August 9, 2009 at 11:28 PM
d1carter on August 9, 2009 at 11:24
Not sure about that, but I bet he is getting some serious leg rubbing from happy liberals!!
KickandSwimMom on August 9, 2009 at 11:28 PM
Amen, brother! They can take Ms. Lindsey with them.
Perfect, and shark week is almost here.
Laura in Maryland on August 9, 2009 at 11:30 PM
Ugh,that should be safety,not saftey!!
canopfor on August 9, 2009 at 11:30 PM
Repost
I don’t know if this has been posted, but Redstate.com has a thread up “Let’s Talk Astroturf” Activism for money, seems like there are hundreds of ads for people to be paid
to support Obamacare! Screenshots, etc. Busted!!
bluefox on August 9, 2009 at 9:53 PM
bluefox on August 9, 2009 at 11:30 PM
“Is it just me or does David Gregory have the face of a silver back gorilla?”
It’s not you but I would amend your quote to read “… a female silver back gorilla.”
There. That’s better.
ncjetsfan on August 9, 2009 at 11:31 PM
and the continual
lip service to the left,has got to go!!
canopfor on August 9, 2009 at 11:21 PM
Amen, brother! They can take Ms. Lindsey with them.
That way, when people like brooks, parker, noonan, et al, stop rowing, we could simply throw them overboard.
massrighty on August 9, 2009 at 11:07 PM
Perfect, and shark week is almost here.
Laura in Maryland on August 9, 2009 at 11:30 PM
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John McCain Jr,Maverick the 2nd,in the making,that free-lances more on the Left isle!!
And helping voting in Sotomoyer,so the Liberal Party can payback Latino`s for their vote,as well as a down payment for their vote in 2012!! UGHaroo!!
canopfor on August 9, 2009 at 11:36 PM
ncjetsfan on August 9, 2009 at 11:31 PM
LOL! Yes, I see him that way too!
KickandSwimMom on August 9, 2009 at 11:37 PM
D Gregory would make a nice cast member on the next Planet of the Apes
blatantblue on August 9, 2009 at 11:38 PM
David Brooks has the face of a woodchuck.
Percy_Peabody on August 9, 2009 at 11:40 PM
Prior to WWII, the Left generally believed National Socialism to be a leftwing ideology. Western left winger sought to follow Mussolini and Hitler’s examples, and the Soviet Union believed that the NAZIs might well be what the communist revolution would look like in an industrialized nation, and Mussolini helped build Stalin’s navy…
When WWII came, the Soviet Union instructed its flunkies in the west to argue for pacifism – as per the left at the time Germanophobe and archrightwinger Churchill was warmongering against the poor oppressed Germans to prop up British capitalism or something like that.
When Hitler stabbed Stalin in the back, the propaganda machine switched into high gear. Now the Soviets had been anti-fascists from the start. Suddenly National Socialism was the antithesis of International Socialism, and therefore it was suddenly on the far right…
This of course creates a paradox. The most important aspect of national socialism is its belief in a centralized authoritarian state. One of the central tenets of the American right is a belief in a decentralized lasseiz faire state.
So what would a far right winger be? Arguably a libertarian.
Now to turn the argument around for a moment, where would we see the modern American version of a National Socialist? As I mentioned, we would be looking for someone who believed in centralized power as opposed to giving business and individuals discretion in say their choice in health care for one example. Someone who believed that they had the right to do whatever they wanted because, well, they won. Someone who believed that we needed to make sure government took over more control of businesses, for the good of the state of course. Someone who believed that the government knew better then the individual what someone should drive, or what temperature they set their thermostat too. Where who where could we find such a person?
18-1 on August 9, 2009 at 11:42 PM
But the government will have access to my bank accounts to withdraw money they want at will.
How’s that not crazy? People fined $2,500 a year for the crime of choosing not to purchase healthcare.
How’s that not crazy? No TORT reform.
How’s that not crazy? A person dying might be better off with a pain killer say’s DOCTOR OBAMA without even seeing the patient.
How’s that not crazy? Our elected officials haven’t read the bill.
How’s that not crazy?
Crazy lives in Washington DC. The rest of us are sane. The reality of having to pay for this keeps us in reality.
Hog Wild on August 9, 2009 at 11:43 PM
a far right winger would be some sort of anarchist
blatantblue on August 9, 2009 at 11:43 PM
The central irony is that Nancy Pelosi started this Nazi meme by misrepresenting an anti-ObamaCare sign depicting a swastika inside a circle with a bar across it. Inasmuch as the sign holder was protesting the similarity between ObamaCare and Hitler’s socialized health care, the sign was anti-Nazi. Rush seized on this neglected fact and enumerated all the similarities between Obama’s proposals and Hitler’s policies — illustrating the Democrat leadership’s absurdity by being absurd, as Rush likes to do.
Terrie on August 9, 2009 at 11:43 PM
*raises hand* The Attila the Hun Chair?
/s
daesleeper on August 9, 2009 at 11:44 PM
Actually, I don’t know how many leftists I have talked with that virulently opposed the death penalty that have told me that executing McVeigh is the one case they approved of. Note that they make this argument in the post 9/11 world and did not make an exception for even the likes of Zarqawi…
18-1 on August 9, 2009 at 11:46 PM
So, Brooks has segregated concern into the real, and the crazy. I wonder what he uses to differentiate. Maybe who says it? Maybe the real concern comes from polls showing enough to sway elections, and the crazy comes from actual citizens complaining to their elected officials.
After all, town hall meetings are just so… pedestrian.
applebutter on August 9, 2009 at 11:48 PM
Why would they make an exception/
McVeigh was during Clinton
Zarqawi,Zawahiri, et.al under Bush
so of course you have to be against the DP for them
no, not Double Penetration, Upstater.
blatantblue on August 9, 2009 at 11:48 PM
I’m not completely sure if I agree… If Obama didn’t want to interfere in foreign affairs, then why is Hillary dancing with the locals?
http://tpmtv.talkingpointsmemo.com/?id=3143677
Upstater85 on August 9, 2009 at 11:15 PM
Upstater85: Hopey is keeping HilRod distracted!
And,interesting dance,the low-gravity,
derrier is 6 inches of the tarmac,oops,
I mean`t floor!
And,I wonder what Bill thinks of his new
admirer of Chelsea!!Hehe:)
canopfor on August 9, 2009 at 11:50 PM
PLEASE WHO CARES WHAT THIS PILE OF CRAP AND OTHER WHO THINK THEY ARE THE CONSERVATIVE VOICE THINK.NO MORE DAVID BROOKS,DAVID FRUMM ,KAT. PARKER AND OTHER SO CALLED WIZARDS OF SMART.
thmcbb on August 9, 2009 at 11:50 PM
Come on, don’t go insulting woodchucks now.
StevefromMKE on August 9, 2009 at 11:52 PM
And, I find it very it interesting that Brooks believes the way to get the plan to pass is gloss over the details, and get it done.
Whatever it is.
applebutter on August 9, 2009 at 11:52 PM
Is David Brooks considered conservative because of his clothing line?
Loxodonta on August 9, 2009 at 11:53 PM
Punxsutawney Republicans!
Loxodonta on August 9, 2009 at 11:55 PM
David Brooks has the face of a woodchuck.
Percy_Peabody on August 9, 2009 at 11:40 PM
Percy_Peabody: Good call,I was thinking of an Otter,with
his tooth gap,but me thinks weasel might
be closer!!
canopfor on August 9, 2009 at 11:57 PM
Well, of course… everyone except Bawney.
Upstater85 on August 10, 2009 at 12:00 AM
Good one! Although I am pretty sure he would be horrified to think he had anything to do with those nasty tea parties or town hall meetings.
Cindy Munford on August 10, 2009 at 12:01 AM
Oh, I don’t claim leftists are consistent.
But American leftists definitely in theory believe that people are good… they just need the gubmint to help them achieve this goodness.
In practice, the left tends to just grab power.
Upstater85 on August 10, 2009 at 12:02 AM
Found this link as good news.
WoosterOh on August 10, 2009 at 12:02 AM
slightly OT… The mob member Ken Gladney / is finally getting some well deserved attention to his ordeal.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/aug/10/i-am-kenneth-gladney/
katy on August 10, 2009 at 12:03 AM
The Sheeple won’t be able to understand the details anyway.
Upstater85 on August 10, 2009 at 12:04 AM
Other than being called a conservative by members of the MSM, what does David Brooks stand for that is conservative? Any social, fiscal or national security issues?
Is he just a Peggy Noonan in pants?
Loxodonta on August 10, 2009 at 12:04 AM
As Chairman of the national woodchuck preservation society i here by request that these vicious attacks on the woodchuck end at once.
thmcbb on August 10, 2009 at 12:04 AM
He was pro-Iraq War – just like Lieberman.
Upstater85 on August 10, 2009 at 12:05 AM
That’s nice, but is that it?
Loxodonta on August 10, 2009 at 12:06 AM
Lox, this is the future for the GOP that he wants…
http://select.nytimes.com/2007/03/29/opinion/29brooks.html?_r=2&hp&oref=slogin
…excerpts to come…
Upstater85 on August 10, 2009 at 12:07 AM
But if David’s not a Groundhog, when he crawls out of his hole on February 2nd, how will we be to tell how many more weeks there’ll be for Democrats in Congress?
Loxodonta on August 10, 2009 at 12:08 AM
Someone posted a link earlier that described his “conversion”, I just skimmed it. He wrote a book, but deep inside I doubt it was remotely similar to any author that we currently consider conservative. He is probably less conservative than Peggy Noonan. At least Peggy as actually been in the company of a real conservative even if she can’t quite pull it off herself.
Cindy Munford on August 10, 2009 at 12:08 AM
Guess who…
Upstater85 on August 10, 2009 at 12:08 AM
http://www.examiner.com/x-11470-Newport-News-Conservative-Examiner~y2009m8d9-Poll-Obama-less-popular-than-Palin-in-Virginia
Obama less popular than Palin in Virgina.
Looks like Obama is the one who will fade.
Geochelone on August 10, 2009 at 12:09 AM
Well,I`m off to keep the wife company,movie time and all,
night,everybody!:)
canopfor on August 10, 2009 at 12:09 AM
Thanks. Not a Slimes user. Can’t log in.
Loxodonta on August 10, 2009 at 12:10 AM
Hawkdriver,keep the faith!:)
Sweet Dreams!:)
canopfor on August 10, 2009 at 12:10 AM
Guess who II…
Upstater85 on August 10, 2009 at 12:10 AM
WHO appointed David Brooks in charge of deciding who is and who is not crazy?
I think Brooks is “insane”!
He dismisses Rush and Palin as insane and I rightfully dismiss him as insane. He is a statist media elite who does not represent or respect conservatism. I also resent the cheerleading of “Obama will have a plan by the end of the month”. Talk about a cult of personality! Obama has never even crafted legislation–that is beneath him!
Best point is that the polling is at the same levels as when HillaryCare collapsed.
Buckeye Babe on August 10, 2009 at 12:12 AM
I want to hear from the reporter that was arrested that night. I am assuming if he has proof of the union folks innocence or police brutality we would have heard from him by now but I think it’s odd.
Cindy Munford on August 10, 2009 at 12:12 AM
Well, it is pretty obvious that neither Obama nor most members of congress understand the details of their plan either…
18-1 on August 10, 2009 at 12:12 AM
OK, here’s the whole thing then…
Upstater85 on August 10, 2009 at 12:12 AM
b-b-but…
Upstater85 on August 10, 2009 at 12:12 AM
BTW, I probably violated some copyright laws by pasting Brooks’ NYT’s article… wooops…
Don’t flag me!
Upstater85 on August 10, 2009 at 12:13 AM
But she can write like a conservative when she’s not speaking for herself. And when she does that, it’s very well done. I don’t recall getting carried away by anything Brooks wrote.
Of course, I may be feeling a bit generous to Peggy as the Obama push back against We the People recently jogged her memory of what America is all about. Hope it stays jogged.
Loxodonta on August 10, 2009 at 12:14 AM
If David Brooks wants to call himself a conservative,and considering the direction the Time’s is heading in i’m surprised he’s not disconnecting himself from Obama’s tail pipe and trying to pass himself as a true Conservative to align himself for his next gig.
heshtesh on August 10, 2009 at 12:16 AM
I don’t mean to sound too aggressive, but I don’t understand some here that would rather court the progressive republicans such as Brooks, Graham, McCain, and all while totally sending the nutroots such as Paul, Schiff, and Judge Napolitano out to cooksville.
Sure, we have to appeal to the indy and moderate voters, but that doesn’t mean we can’t appeal to them using Conservative values.
People such as Brooks would literally have the Conservative movement throw out it’s old ideology. Don’t believe me? Look at my pasted version of his article above…
Upstater85 on August 10, 2009 at 12:17 AM
Hey everybody,
Look who is kickin a$$
Newt Gingrich 6 %
Mike Huckabee 5 %
Sarah Palin 47 %
Mitt Romney 24 %
Someone else 15 %
I’m not sure 3 %
I am not makin’ this up. See for yourself. Scroll down to the right on Politico.
Palin = 2 x Romney. Blow out
http://www.politico.com/
Geochelone on August 10, 2009 at 12:17 AM
I’ll give Peggy credit for pushing back on Obama
Parker and Brooks have already let the left play them… they are broken. Worthless.
Upstater85 on August 10, 2009 at 12:18 AM
Never forget who her editor was. Without him, she is nothing. And I mean that in a conservatives spokesperson way, I am sure she is a lovely human being.
Cindy Munford on August 10, 2009 at 12:19 AM
Palin = 2 x Romney. Blow out on Politico Poll!
THIS LINK goes
right to the results
Geochelone on August 10, 2009 at 12:20 AM
To rain on your parade…
The question was
Upstater85 on August 10, 2009 at 12:21 AM
What Goldwater glory days?! Does he mean those glory days when we had about as much power as we do now? Lordy!
Hyphenating Goldwater with Reagan seems to me an attempt to attack Reagan. There were certainly similarities, but there were also differences.
It’s true that times change and people change, so conservatism does have to change to meet those conditions. Yet, there are always certain eternal and fundamental principles that cannot and should not change. Like freedom. And limited government. So I’m notquite getting Brooks, yet. Does it get better or worse?
** breathless **
Loxodonta on August 10, 2009 at 12:23 AM
That’s the whole thing. I’d say Brooks thinks Progressive Conservatism gets better… I fail to see how.
Upstater85 on August 10, 2009 at 12:25 AM
I hate to go all X-files on everyone but what the hell is up with this missing freighter in the Atlantic? It is boarded by armed men in the Baltic on July 24, and suddenly released. That’s right, the Baltic of all places. Now it has disappeared off Portugal (enroute to Algiers). Damn strange. Damn scary given the nature of delivering homegrown cosmic rays these days.
You can find more info at Eaglespeak
Ok…back to health care, polls, and good old astroturf…
Limerick on August 10, 2009 at 12:26 AM
I know what the question was. How exactly does that “rain on my parade”?
Geochelone on August 10, 2009 at 12:26 AM
I don’t use the Nazi lable simply because it doesn’t fit. When I watch the 2009 leftists and Obama I see Stalin and Mao. They want something Hitler never wanted. Hitler did not want his own country destroyed but the left see themselves as “world citizens” and see their own country as an obstical to that concept. Obama is the most dangerous president we have ever known. I feel that he views the office of president as “middle management”. He has far greater asspirations. Our problem is that he has the rest of the world as enthalled, if not moreso than the US, and when he speaks of his base he is not just talking about the USA.
Texas on August 10, 2009 at 12:28 AM
A security blanket does come in handy at times. No man is an island. So we each have at least one security blanket, suiting our individual needs and tastes. But if you keep layering on those security blankets, eventually you get smothered.
Looks like Brooks is heading downhill from here. Can Obama worshiping be far away?
Loxodonta on August 10, 2009 at 12:28 AM
I fail to see how the opinions of independents, conservatives, democrats, moderates, communists, &c mean that Palin will blow Romney out of the water come the primaries.
Upstater85 on August 10, 2009 at 12:29 AM
You need to have a PLAN??? What do you call the 1000 page monstrosity that bho trotted out?
Plan indeed.
Are we winning? I hope so.
Mojave Mark on August 10, 2009 at 12:29 AM
I’d say that the Constitution is gives us a good description of what a security blanket should look like…
Upstater85 on August 10, 2009 at 12:30 AM
Getting it done is not necessarily a good thing.
Bad law written for all the right reasons is still bad law.
As it stands today, most of the bill has not been written, yet we have over 1500 pages of legislation…and a lot of “fill in the blank” sections and paragraphs to be addressed after passage during mark up or even later.
If this bill is passed into law, what we may easily have done, by our not being informed of what is contained in the bill (specifics matter) is giving government license…unlimited license to “fill in the blanks” after the bill becomes law, and at that point none of us have any say, input, nor control of the outcomes.
License.
License granted to Congress to do what they please, as well as license granted to the Administration to do what they please, since they will certainly base their insertion of other articles and regulations and laws into the entire health care matrix, and straight-faced tell us that the bill which became law permitted them to do the same.
This is no small matter.
If you have ever dealt with just about any government agency that serves the public directly, you know for fact that most of the regulations imposed are not the result of specific legislation but are established under one or two sections of a law, usually a nebulous law, that the various agencies will use to establish more regulations and control over us, and increase spending in order to fulfill the same.
Look, folks, any move to allow or license government to do what they please is never a good idea…ever.
Passing this health care health insurance reform bill Obamacare whatever is opening up a Pandora’s Box, one that we will perhaps never be able to shut again.
Obama wants a grand gesture…that one thing…a totally encompassing law passed under his Administration. He needs it. Demands it. Will stop at nothing to achieve that grand gesture.
Prudence would dictate that we take each item in the bill and debate it on its own merits first…and pass each as a separate bill, first, on its merits, or kill it on its merits. Then combine these individual bills into law. first.
A set or succession of individual laws addressing particular alleged problems seems a lot more prudent (or wise, is that the current term?) than passing a huge bill no one has read in its entirety, granting license to government to do as they please, so Obama can have his “Grand geste” to add to his legacy.
coldwarrior on August 10, 2009 at 12:30 AM
If you look at the Left, they capture moderate voters by lying to them. Look for example at both Clinton and Obama’s promises of cutting taxes…
I would like to see us start to tailor or message to moderates to reflect this. Every time Obama talked about cutting taxes McCain should have responded by mentioning Bill Clinton’s promise to cut taxes that he broke immediately after getting elected…
18-1 on August 10, 2009 at 12:31 AM
She is an endearing little lost lamb who has strayed from the fold. If she can bah and produce wool, I’d glad to have her back. However, if she starts nursing Romulus again, out!
Loxodonta on August 10, 2009 at 12:32 AM
Exactly. Obama used Reaganesque rhetoric to win over some moderates. He lied. To argue like Brooks that somehow small gov’t is not sexy or something, just doesn’t make sense to me.
Upstater85 on August 10, 2009 at 12:33 AM
Does anyone besides me lose track of where they have made certain comments. I think that’s a sign.
Cindy Munford on August 10, 2009 at 12:34 AM
I said the POLL was a blow out, of course that doesn’t mean that she would beat Romney, sheeesh. She may not even run. It
is just a poll.
How does the question posed “rain on my parade”?
Palin = 2 x Romney (IN A POLL ON POLITICO)
Geochelone on August 10, 2009 at 12:34 AM
…As long as she keeps the jabs at conservatives in check, and fights for conservative principles, I can forgive her her sins.
Upstater85 on August 10, 2009 at 12:34 AM
She hangs around with some decidedly unconservative, I am not optimistic.
Cindy Munford on August 10, 2009 at 12:36 AM
I guess I just misinterpretted what you were getting at.
Glad you were able to show us who was kickin’ a$$ according to a Politico Poll. Guess I didn’t rain on your parade after all…
Upstater85 on August 10, 2009 at 12:36 AM
Peggey never forgave GW for not making her his speech writer.
Texas on August 10, 2009 at 12:36 AM
I hang out with blatantly un-conservative people… is there hope for me?
Upstater85 on August 10, 2009 at 12:36 AM
*Bad image of Bush bumbling along to some Heart-wrenching Noonan speech…
Upstater85 on August 10, 2009 at 12:37 AM
Oh, and one other point, we need to get moderates and center righties to understand strategic voting.
Let’s say we have a political scale where 0 is a perfect leftist and 10 a perfect conservative.
Let’s further say that you are a 6…just right of center. The Democrats are running a 4 and the Republicans a 9. Who should you vote for? The answer is the Republican. Even though he is farther from your views then the Democrat, he will move the body only 4/100ths to the right. The Senate was in the hands of the left before the election of course, but even if you presume a prefect representation of moderates besides your candidate, you have the choice of 4.99 or 5.04 and the latter is closer to your views…
18-1 on August 10, 2009 at 12:38 AM
But you aren’t writing columns in a national newspaper and making television appearances while trying to keep both sides happy. Guess which side has been the happiest lately? Most of us have liberal friends and family, we either enjoy the the arguments or don’t discuss politics. I don’t think that works for Ms. Noonan.
Cindy Munford on August 10, 2009 at 12:42 AM
Words matter. Using a term such as “ideology” can easily be used against us. Philosophy has a less harsh edge. Principles is even more sociopetal.
The bottom line is that no matter how many boards you hammer together, without a solid framework, that boat is going to sink, fall apart when the first waves crash over the bow.
This is why our philosophy, our principles, need to be enumerated in terms that can be easily understood by any and all. And examples provided to show exactly how adherence to these principles has enabled, ennobled, raised us all up as a Nation.
Thus far, since Reagan and Newt’s Contract with America, in order to streamline things, win elections, the GOP has pulled timbers out of our framework one at a time, and our hull is being crushed, our bulkheads are being stove in. Soon we will sink.
We can try to move forward as Democrat-Lite, or try to move ahead as the “agginer” party…we’s aggin’ big government, we’s aggin’ the democrats, we’s aggin’ Obama…but what are we for?
What are we for?
Unless we define that in 100% clear text…going to be a long cold century in America.
coldwarrior on August 10, 2009 at 12:42 AM
Looks like Brooks and Krugman need to get a room.
When was the last time Brooks called how liberals have been acting over the last 8 years “insane”.
He sure has to kiss a lot of a$$ to stay on for the NY Times
and get invited to their conservative bashing events.
Hey David, this is what we have been getting from your liberal
friends the last 8 yrs:
Mobsters:
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_qwNGaeCRkvY/SnpmR2aWagI/AAAAAAAABKk/DRIgjuVlmRw/s1600-h/bhjpg.jpg
What a tool.
Did not watch meet the press,
When did Gregory play the tape of Gladney being beaten down by a bunch of democratic union boys and other democratic union supporters beating up senior citizens and shutting down their free speech.
I am going to put my money on the fact that black men and senior citizens being beaten down is not news worthy if it’s done by democrats.
But everybody better watch out for that crazy extremist Limbaugh who might say something else rrrrrrrrrrrrrealy scary and iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiinsane.
Baxter Greene on August 10, 2009 at 12:43 AM
Yeah… perhaps…
Still… Brooks+Parker < Noonan
At least she’s called Obama out to some extent.
Parker and Brooks say “Bah, bah feed me master. I won’t bite thine hand.”
Upstater85 on August 10, 2009 at 12:43 AM
Allah sure is up late, he just posted a new headline.
Cindy Munford on August 10, 2009 at 12:43 AM
As chairman of the National woodchuck preservation society i here by grant that once a year on february 2 David Brooks may become a woodchuck but only for one day.
thmcbb on August 10, 2009 at 12:45 AM
True… We need a Positive Alternative.
Upstater85 on August 10, 2009 at 12:46 AM
I thought he was already a beaver.
Upstater85 on August 10, 2009 at 12:46 AM
In the run up to the election Brooks and his ilk argued that Obama was a pragmatic moderate who was all for responsible tax cutting and reducing the deficit – a man that conservatives could vote for unlike McCain who was old, or could be a jerk, or had some other flaw.
The moment that Obama won the election, Brooks and his ilk advertised it as a rejection of conservative values. The public wants higher taxes, more regulations, more spending, and if the Republicans don’t jump on the socialist bandwagon we are doomed.
Well, if we presume that Brooks and his friends weren’t lying when they said the first part, how did they get to second part???
18-1 on August 10, 2009 at 12:46 AM
Okay, I will admit to some petty chick nonsense, Ms. Noonan’s breathless way of talking is annoying to me. I assume it colors my overall opinion and she comes off as one the select few people who knows better then the rest of us. I am not trying to get her to go away, everyone should talk and write.
Cindy Munford on August 10, 2009 at 12:48 AM
You got me.
Yet, beta-cons feel more comfortable with say Brooks or Powell instead of Constitutionalists…
Don’t know what to say.
Upstater85 on August 10, 2009 at 12:48 AM
Yeah, not much for very emotional “conservatives.”
Upstater85 on August 10, 2009 at 12:49 AM
Actually, I would be careful about this. Obama won because he largely refused to say what he stood for and what he was going to do if elected. This was a powerful tool that allowed his campaign to spin him as whatever would win him votes. If he had come out and said his plan was to giveaway trillions of dollars to his allies and raise taxes do you think he would have won?
Conversely, McCain at times got too stuck in the details. Remember how he went on and on about earmarks? Do you think that really won him many votes?
We do need a coherent set of principles, and to get a party that will generally stick to them. But I think we really need to focus on defining what Obama and the Democrats are right now.
18-1 on August 10, 2009 at 12:54 AM
Please do not lower the proud and noble woodchuck to the lower class like the beaver AKA David Brooks. These mindless attacks on the truly magnificent creature the noble woodchuck must end Thank You thmcbb Chairman of the National Woodchuck preservation Society.
thmcbb on August 10, 2009 at 12:55 AM
The financial mess that the democrats are making right now will swing many voters Republican if our leadership can unite and deliver a clear message.
The democrats have gained in wealth demographically over large parts of this country.
It is becoming clearer day by day that they are extremely dissatisfied with Obama’s class warfare and main solution to our economic problems being “tax the rich”.
Independents are sliding a lot because Obama is breaking many promises and is not the uniter he professed to be.
I think that social issues in the Republican party is what keeps many of these voters from crossing over.
If we can come to terms moderately with issues like abortion,gay marriage,religion,and put our message out with more creativity,we could bring many voters under the tent without compromising core conservative values.
Baxter Greene on August 10, 2009 at 12:56 AM
So long as we allow the Brook’s and the Frum’s and the Noonan’s of the world to define who we are, and which candidates we need to follow, so long as we allow the Dems to define us, and the MSM to do the same, we are, well, royally screwed.
When local residents go to a meeting with our local Congressional rep and find that “others’ already occupy the seats…and the Dems, the White House, call us organized agitators…and we do not get in their faces, metaphorically, of course, and do it loud, strong, and again and again, they are setting the agenda, setting our agenda, and the Brook’s and Frum’s and Noonan’s by their constant belittling of our fundamanetal principles, they will continbue to set the agenda, and agenda us right out of existance.
We shouldn’t have to pay for professional agitators to get our message across, as the Dems apparently have to do.
With us or against us. Go to those town hall meetings, ask serious questions, video the events, use the net to send emails, send faxes, use the phone, write letters, hit other blogs…offer specific solutions, ask serious questions, but above all, do not sit on the sidelines, and do not descend into profanity and threats. The latter is the sole realm of the Dems. I’d rather not soil my shoes walking in that sort of stuff.
coldwarrior on August 10, 2009 at 12:56 AM
Thanks for that. it will take a while to digest. however, the last line demonstrates perfectly that Brooks is off.
Lincoln was an important leader, and nobody would copy him exactly for today’s times and issues. Yet, he is an incredible role mole for what is great in America. The same is true of Reagan. Don’t copy him, but be yourself while learning from reagan’s wisdom.
Let your home be a meeting place for the wise; dust yourself in the soil of their feet, and drink thirstily of their words.
Talmud: Avot 1:4
Loxodonta on August 10, 2009 at 12:58 AM
This might be a good strategy for the beginning of a win, but I’ll still say we need a positive alternative.
Conservative Principles (stripped down to their core) tend to be very easy to understand.
-Smaller Efficient Government
-Defending the Home Front
-Cutting frivolous spending
-More personal liberties
-Promoting Individualism
Now, you are right, latching onto a particular issue such as earmarks could bog down many (if not all).
There’s got to be the right balance.
Upstater85 on August 10, 2009 at 12:58 AM
OK….now I’m getting worried about that missing ship.
The Russian navy is now involved in the hunt.
Now, back to more fake grass….
Limerick on August 10, 2009 at 12:59 AM
David Brooks is a little bitch to call Sarah Palin “insane” for speaking the truth–ObamaCare would deny care to retards based on the fact that retards are a net drain on our system, money-wise.
Calling people “insane” is rude and disgusting. David Brooks is a little bitch.
daryl_herbert on August 10, 2009 at 1:00 AM
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