People Derangement Syndrome
posted at 1:00 pm on August 9, 2009 by Mitch Berg
Twelve years ago, Clinton Derangement Syndrone swept many reaches of the American right. Fringe-y conservative pundits claimed Clinton had done everything from murdering Vince Foster to giving prisoners AIDS-tainted blood to (I’m getting a little foggy on the story) make money from the hike in blood prices (?).
Over the past eight or so years, the debt was repaid with loan-shark interest; Bush Derangement Syndrome (he brought down the Twin Towers, doncha know) spawned at least two broadast radio networks and most of MSNBC’s current lineup.
But this pathology is evolving into an uglier, more virulent pathology. Because while distrusting the government is normal (and to a certain degree healthy), when the government and its attendant “elites” start assuming the people are some sort of mass of depraved animals, it’s a very bad thing.
Paul Krugman, Nobel prize winner, is shocked - shocked - that people are upset about Obamacare.
And he just can’t find a historical precedent for the anger he thinks he’s seeing:
That’s a far cry from what has been happening at recent town halls, where angry protesters — some of them, with no apparent sense of irony, shouting “This is America!” — have been drowning out, and in some cases threatening, members of Congress trying to talk about health reform.
(Because members of Congress, especially those who support Obama, just can’t get heard in this day and age, can they?)
Some commentators have tried to play down the mob aspect of these scenes, likening the campaign against health reform to the campaign against Social Security privatization back in 2005. But there’s no comparison. I’ve gone through many news reports from 2005, and while anti-privatization activists were sometimes raucous and rude, I can’t find any examples of congressmen shouted down, congressmen hanged in effigy, congressmen surrounded and followed by taunting crowds.
And, Paul Krugman, you can’t find any examples of union goons beating up dissenters in 2005, either, can you?
What possible difference is there between now and then? Between the Social Security debate and Obamacare? I’ll let you take a moment and turn that keen, Princeton-trained mind on solving that little riddle as we move on?
And I can’t find any counterpart to the death threats at least one congressman has received.
Paul Krugman: you seriously claim you can’t find any expression of anger in the past, say, eight and a half years, any expression of rage that overtopped the banks of sanity?
OK – that’s two jobs for that keen, Nobel-prize-winning intellect to tackle.
We’ll take a detour through crummy journalism…:
So this is something new and ugly. What’s behind it?
Robert Gibbs, the White House press secretary, has compared the scenes at health care town halls to the “Brooks Brothers riot” in 2000 — the demonstration that disrupted the vote count in Miami and arguably helped send George W. Bush to the White House. Portrayed at the time as local protesters, many of the rioters were actually G.O.P. staffers flown in from Washington.
But Mr. Gibbs is probably only half right. Yes, well-heeled interest groups are helping to organize the town hall mobs. Key organizers include two Astroturf (fake grass-roots) organizations: FreedomWorks, run by the former House majority leader Dick Armey, and a new organization called Conservatives for Patients’ Rights.
…because goodness knows a movement like Krugman’s, which depends on MoveOn.org, ACORN, the NEA and the SEIU to get crowds out for events can’t stand the thought of political action groups actually…organizing politics!
But with that out of the way, let’s move on to the casual class defamation:
That is, the driving force behind the town hall mobs is probably the same cultural and racial anxiety that’s behind the “birther” movement, which denies Mr. Obama’s citizenship. Senator Dick Durbin has suggested that the birthers and the health care protesters are one and the same; we don’t know how many of the protesters are birthers, but it wouldn’t be surprising if it’s a substantial fraction.
Michael Savage told me that the only way Paul Krugman could win a Nobel Prize was by providing sexual favors to Nobel committee members. I think he just might be right.
“Wow”, you might say – “That’s defamatory”.
It would be, if I meant it. It’d take a bit of scabrous (and in this case fictional) libel from a “source” whose only motivation is hatred for Paul Krugman, and waters it down with just enough weasel words (“he just might be right”) to give myself some ethical wiggle room.
So let’s unpack Krugman’s last paragraph – which is easily the most cynical, stupid paragraph I have ever read in the Old, Gray, Increasingly Demented Lady.
- Tell me,Paul Krugman – do the “Birther” “movement” (a paranoid conspiracy theory rejected by the vast majority of Obama’s opponents) and opposition to Obamacare – which is rapidly becoming a majority position, and is gathering steam among “Blue Dog” members of the President’s own party, based on an empirical reading of the supply and demand for healthcare, as well as the real-life experiences of healthcare consumers in Canada and the UK – actually share a “driving force”, or do they only “probably” share one? Because when Krugman says…
- “…we don’t know how many of the protesters are birthers”, and you “wouldn’t be surprised” if it was plenty? That’s called “weasel words”. You don’t know. And worse, your only “source” is…
- …Dick “Turban” Durbin, who is one of the weasels being pummeled in public, and whose contempt for the opinion of the American Peasant is summed up by his support for reintroducing the “Fairness” Doctrine, and whose hostility to dissent is famous.
What is the difference, precisely, between Krugman’s real paragraph and my made-up one?
Does this sound familiar? It should: it’s a strategy that has played a central role in American politics ever since Richard Nixon realized that he could advance Republican fortunes by appealing to the racial fears of working-class whites…But right now Mr. Obama’s backers seem to lack all conviction, perhaps because the prosaic reality of his administration isn’t living up to their dreams of transformation. Meanwhile, the angry right is filled with a passionate intensity.
And in Paul Krugman’s special little world, “right wing intensity” can only come from some depraved, immoral motive.
That is the legacy of the Obama administration, so far; dissent is worse than unpatriotic; it is depraved.
They hate you.
(Via Mr. D @ Truth Versus the Machine)
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I don’t think so, the redistricting from the census will occur with the next congress I believe. After the 2010 elections. They can also dismiss the results of the census or call for another one if there are too many irregularities.
That is why 2010 is imperative. We don’t just need to win, but need veto proof majorities. It is even more important than 2012.
conservnut on August 9, 2009 at 2:59 PM
… and don’t forget, those attacks were made while our troops were deployed overseas, dying as they fought our enemies, and they often used those same troops as pawns, calling into doubt their honor, not only that of their CiC
And ultimately no Democrat ever responded to the reasonable argument that these actions were giving hope to the enemy and prolonging the fight with anything other than an upraised middle finger to the rest of the country.
Before that disgraceful episode, I was proud to say I would vote for a Democrat if I agreed with their policies, and I did – Gore in 2000, I am ashamed to say, mostly because the media had trashed Bush so well.
But never, ever again… I wouldn’t walk across the road to urinate on a Democrat if he was on fire.
drunyan8315 on August 9, 2009 at 3:03 PM
When simple folk like Krugman spew the accusations about “threatening congressmen” we need to hit back harder: put up or shut up, my bolshevik little friend.
Either you have a specific credible threat, or you’re lying your ass off.
Which is it?
jeff_from_mpls on August 9, 2009 at 3:04 PM
Krugman and others of his ilk cannot stand the fact that this grassroots movement of the American People does not require payment for being good little soldiers. We are not summoned by recipients of taxpayer-funded organization who “claim” to be non-partisan entities. As individuals, we are impassioned not in the name of money or identity politics, we are inspired by a desire to protect that which so many others died to preserve for us.
pjean on August 9, 2009 at 3:09 PM
It’s amazing to me how the Democratic politicians don’t recognize and aren’t worried about the complaints coming from their own base.
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What this shows is that they have victory in the bag by getting the votes of the biased unions such as Sieu and other in the bag groups. All they need to do is fool a small amount of the sheeple and they are in.
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Once in, they only try to please the unions and groups that they owe their post to.
FactsofLife on August 9, 2009 at 3:12 PM
If we go back a few years to when the anti-war movement was in full swing, we had numerous examples of anti-war nuts KILLING people.
The DC snipers and the guy who murdered his commanding officer stand out as obvious examples.
I seem to recall when these things were happening and the Left was asked to stop accusing our troops of being little more then raping, murdering monsters there response was always one of two things, depending on the communication ability of the leftist in question;
Dissent is the highest form of patriotism
or
F#@! You. Bush is Hitler and you are a member of the Religious Reich.
18-1 on August 9, 2009 at 3:19 PM
Krugman, like all Democrats, is a lying sack of $#!+. He doesn’t need proof! The seriousness of the accusation is sufficient enough for these Useful Idiots. The only thing that these greedy hypocrites understand is money. Boycott anyone and anything associated with the political Left. I’ve been doing it since the Clinton era and it’s very rewarding to the soul. And if these Leftards hate capitalism so much… Fire em’… any and every Democrat that you may employ.
ronnyraygun on August 9, 2009 at 3:33 PM
Bring your PUMA signs to town halls.
faraway on August 9, 2009 at 3:40 PM
Yes, the 2010 elections will be based on the Census 2000 data which were used to create the existing districts–beginning with the 2002 Congressional elections.
The 2010 ‘count’ will be used to alter most of the 435 districts beginning with the 2012 elections
Janos Hunyadi on August 9, 2009 at 3:40 PM
They get away with this revisionist history and current demonization of the electorate because the Obama-fellating, state run media seeks them out to bolster their own twisted views and faulty, disjointed memories.
SKYFOX on August 9, 2009 at 3:45 PM
OT: But worth a quick read….
Baltic Pirates and the Missing Russian Freighter……
Your X-file for Sunday, or worse, your hijacked ship packed with ????? for Sunday.
Limerick on August 9, 2009 at 3:47 PM
I can’t wait to see what these filthy statist maggots have to say after 12 Sept 09 when we descend on D.C.
Sam_I_Am on August 9, 2009 at 3:49 PM
Way back last year, seems like a decade or so, doesn’t it, when that “It’s for the children” meme got going, it worked. Can’t let the children suffer. If you oppose anything regarding “the childrenZ’ then you were labeled a cold heartless bastard, or Conservative.
Two observations…has Michelle Obama ever gone back to the soup kitchen to work as a volunteer without having the press and TV following her every move?
Second, the best thing for the children would be to turn over to them a nation, strong and united, fiscally sound, and based across the board on the Founder’s principles.
Or do the libs not really care at all about the children, other than to be used as a photo op or an emotive poster now and then? The liberal takeover of our education system sure as hell hasn’t helped any child learn to become an adult and be a responsible citizen.
coldwarrior on August 9, 2009 at 3:52 PM
I am an atheist but will pray for Krugman’s violent rape and murder.
RWLA on August 9, 2009 at 3:57 PM
After the revolution, people like Krugman will be set adrift on broken off pieces of ice in the North Atlantic.
Jeff from WI on August 9, 2009 at 3:58 PM
OK, I’ll go along with the above, then we’ll send the body off into the North Atlantic.
Jeff from WI on August 9, 2009 at 3:59 PM
Headless, I’d like to see Krugman headless.
Jeff from WI on August 9, 2009 at 4:00 PM
I am an atheist but will pray for Krugman’s violent rape and murder.
RWLA on August 9, 2009
Damn, dude. Who’s the patron saint of that?
SKYFOX on August 9, 2009 at 4:01 PM
I am an atheist but will pray for Krugman’s violent rape and murder.
RWLA on August 9, 2009 at 3:57 PM
OK, I’ll go along with the above, then we’ll send the body off into the North Atlantic.
Jeff from WI on August 9, 2009 at 3:59 PM
AGREED!!
RWLA on August 9, 2009 at 4:01 PM
Well, he’s taken care of the brainless part for ya.
coldwarrior on August 9, 2009 at 4:01 PM
I am an atheist but will pray for Krugman’s violent rape and murder.
RWLA on August 9, 2009
Damn, dude. Who’s the patron saint of that?
SKYFOX on August 9, 2009 at 4:01 PM
Saint Adam Smith, believer in capitalism and fairness, not socialism and injustice.
RWLA on August 9, 2009 at 4:02 PM
Since you asked.
coldwarrior on August 9, 2009 at 4:03 PM
Saint Adam Smith, believer in capitalism and fairness, not socialism and injustice.
RWLA on August 9, 2009
My next reading assignment, right after I finish Culture of Corruption.
SKYFOX on August 9, 2009 at 4:05 PM
Sigh, we have three more years of this. Can you imagine how many people Obama’s going to pardon his last week in office???!!!
Mojave Mark on August 9, 2009 at 4:05 PM
obvious troll elf is a troll elf
blatantblue on August 9, 2009 at 4:06 PM
It is obvious that Krugman is one of theirs. He survived a partial birth abortion after having his brain sucked out. A pitiful excuse for a human being.
bluegrass on August 9, 2009 at 4:06 PM
The Posse Comitatus Act — forbidding civilian police work by the U.S. military — does not apply to Washington, D.C., because it is the federal district directly governed by the U.S. Congress (U.S. Constitution, Article I. Section 8. Clause 17).
faraway on August 9, 2009 at 4:06 PM
anybody know how to get rid of this “windows security suite” virus?
LtE126 on August 9, 2009 at 4:08 PM
We got room…let’s invite the entire Military District of Washington to join us.
coldwarrior on August 9, 2009 at 4:09 PM
Since you asked.
coldwarrior on August 9, 2009
I looked at the link. What a strange case. I Don’t know quite how to react. I’d be curious to know the nature of that guy’s “confession” and how it was obtained.
SKYFOX on August 9, 2009 at 4:10 PM
Call DHS or flag@washington.gov turn a couple of us in…your virus will disappear. Call early, before noon, and it will be fixed by close of business.
coldwarrior on August 9, 2009 at 4:10 PM
“Call DHS or flag@washington.gov turn a couple of us in…your virus will disappear. Call early, before noon, and it will be fixed by close of business.
coldwarrior on August 9, 2009 at 4:10 PM”
I’m not fuckin’ around, beatoff.
LtE126 on August 9, 2009 at 4:11 PM
Gas. Matches. Assembly.
faraway on August 9, 2009 at 4:12 PM
Seems our little interloper has no clue as to how to Google or use another search engine to locate “windows security suite.” Over a thousands sites offering step-by-step ways to remove the problem.
And he really improved his cred with that little outburst.
Linux based systems are far better.
coldwarrior on August 9, 2009 at 4:16 PM
The Dems are over playing their card and imploding right now. They are letting their true selves come out and it isn’t pretty. Krugman is simply an enabler to their neurosis and I say thank you Paul!
Ampersand on August 9, 2009 at 4:16 PM
I know opposition research has a bad name…but…
The collection and compilation of as many of these Krugman moments as well as Obamafications, and all the rest by the Dems would serve us well as we move into the 2010 cycle and will be pure gold for use in 2012.
Use their own words, and video caps, to show exactly who they are and what they clearly believe.
coldwarrior on August 9, 2009 at 4:20 PM
“Seems our little interloper has no clue as to how to Google or use another search engine to locate “windows security suite.” Over a thousands sites offering step-by-step ways to remove the problem.
And he really improved his cred with that little outburst.
Linux based systems are far better.
coldwarrior on August 9, 2009 at 4:16 PM”
“interloper”?
I’ve been here from the beginning twerp.
And you’re gonna jag me off ’cause I’m not a computer genius?
Go fuck yourself.
LtE126 on August 9, 2009 at 4:21 PM
Reportedly, he smells bad, has terrible hygiene, and it’s reported that like most Democrat males, he was born without a functioning male organ.
Jeff from WI on August 9, 2009 at 4:24 PM
I would do it if they weren’t on fire.
john1schn on August 9, 2009 at 4:25 PM
Read this, carefully. If you have been here since “the beginning” it is something of which you should be well aware.
coldwarrior on August 9, 2009 at 4:27 PM
I like your analysis.
faraway on August 9, 2009 at 4:29 PM
“coldwarrior on August 9, 2009 at 4:27 PM”
Blow me. I was here when Michelle was on the web cam.
BTW…internet tough guys are a dime a dozen.
Go fuck with someone you can handle.
LtE126 on August 9, 2009 at 4:30 PM
the campaign commercials are writing themselves. Krugman knows how stupid his argument is. That’s why he’ll only be seen defending it on MSNBC if anywhere.
I wonder if he actually believes this stuff or if he is just trying to lie in order to boost moral.
Ampersand on August 9, 2009 at 4:33 PM
And that gives you license to engage in this sort of garbage?
You enter a thread and post an entirely off topic subject, then descend into profanity and now personal threats?
Lighten up, Francis.
The adults wish to converse.
coldwarrior on August 9, 2009 at 4:35 PM
Isn’t boosting my morale…especially when you know there are a few million, well a lot of millions, of Americans who agree with him lock, stock and barrel.
coldwarrior on August 9, 2009 at 4:36 PM
The Lollipop Czar
luvstotango on August 9, 2009 at 4:41 PM
In his younger days, Robert Reich was an actor. He was best known as the evil midget bad guy who was on once in a while on the Wild, Wild West.
Jeff from WI on August 9, 2009 at 4:44 PM
There have to some libs out there that were shocked at how the democrats in power have acted lest week. I think Krugman could be putting this spin out in order to boost their moral and justify in their minds the idiocy from the whitehouse and dems in power. I may be stretching though. He’s probably just an ignorant turd.
Ampersand on August 9, 2009 at 4:44 PM
I’d vote for the latter.
coldwarrior on August 9, 2009 at 4:46 PM
word
Ampersand on August 9, 2009 at 4:48 PM
Krugman made a complete and utter fool of himself recently when at a meeting discussing healthcare, he asked how many Canadians were in the room and had them raise their hands. Once they did, he then gleefully asked them that if they loved the healthcare they were getting in Canada to again raise their hands.
Not one hand went up, and all Krugman could do was sit there and sputter in embarrassment. It was like him watching his own well stacked house of cards come crashing down before his eyes.
Yet in spite of this clear and undeniable display of the absolute failure of the Canadian healthcare system, I am convinced that even if he got a negative response like this from every Canadian in every province, Krugman would still insist, with a perfectly straight face, that Canada’s healthcare system is superior to what the U.S. has.
The man is that obstinately blind!
pilamaye on August 9, 2009 at 4:48 PM
“You enter a thread and post an entirely off topic subject, then descend into profanity and now personal threats?”
This place sure has changed.
Site police now.
Go rub Allah’s back.
LtE126 on August 9, 2009 at 4:49 PM
LtE you are too stupid to keep from getting a virus.
Then you are too stupid to use Google.
Then you stupidly attack folks that are poking a little fun at you.
I will say that you have provided some light hearted entertainment to an otherwise dreary day.
faraway on August 9, 2009 at 5:01 PM
+1
Another Kodak moment…
I’ve recently had some folks tell me that well it may not work in Canada or in UK but it will be different here, this is America.
What exactly is different? More people?
The health care model used by Canada presently is flawed, and they know it. Same for UK…but they might not be as aware.
It is a flawed model.
Why try to re-try a flawed model hoping that a few trillion dollars more will be all that is needed to make it work?
And whatever happened to Obama’s stated belief that Obamacare will help the economy and turn the recession around?
coldwarrior on August 9, 2009 at 5:01 PM
If only republicans and all people understood this and understood it well.
They hate you.
They don’t hate you because you’re one of them… the racist republicans who secretly want to have slavery again. The republicans who want to starve the children and kick old people out of their homes. The ‘backroom dealers’ and the ‘closet fascists’. No, they don’t hate you because you’re anything contemptible. They hate you because you’re not one of them. You’re not on their side, and unless and until you are they will hate you.
They hate you.
They don’t want to discuss politics. There is no room for compromise. They don’t want to be ‘bipartisan’. They hate you. They think you’re lower than sh*t. Peasants whose only task is to shut up, work, pay taxes, and worship them for their wise rule. They have no good feelings for you. They will use you because they think you’re there to be used. They will exploit you for it because they think you were born in that lot and if you step out of line you will feel their wrath for it. They have no sympathy, no empathy, no love or kind feelings for you. They hate you.
And lastly.
They hate you.
There is no room for you in their system. In this system, you do what you’re told. There is no room for individuality. No ‘E Pluribus Unum’ to be had here. What once was ‘out of many, one’ is now twisted on it’s head. It’s all ‘Ex Uno Plures’: from one, many. All people are to be molded into the shape of the state. You are now citizen 512-41-6415 and you had better behave like one. They do this because they want to, and they want to because They hate YOU.
They hate you.
They have always hated you.
They always will hate you.
Chaz706 on August 9, 2009 at 5:07 PM
The longer they draw out and push forward this steaming pile of excrement, like Obama Care & Cap & Trade, etc., the longer until the economy really starts to turn around. No consumer is going to spend a dime on large ticket items if they can’t be confident of what lies ahead.
Jeff from WI on August 9, 2009 at 5:09 PM
Yup they hate alright and now we are starting to hate back, it is not going to end pretty.
djohn669 on August 9, 2009 at 5:11 PM
Just back from Sturgis, and it was nice to be in a group of like minded people.
Lot’s of NoBama stuff on bikes.
LtE126 on August 9, 2009 at 5:13 PM
Obama won’t like this scary mob.
faraway on August 9, 2009 at 5:17 PM
Good to hear. I’d love to see a Million Motorcycle March in DC. Obama would wet his mom jeans.
sherry on August 9, 2009 at 5:21 PM
Krugman predicted a recession in 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006 and 2007.
Some economist.
angryed on August 9, 2009 at 5:23 PM
That’s what they fear most. People waking up and using their own tactics against them. For years the left has used political correctness, multiculturalism … evolving to “hate” speech and crime laws … all to keep us beaten down. When those don’t work they bludgeon people with a legal hammer. When that doesn’t work they call out the thugs. When that doesn’t work they’re shyt outta luck.
darwin on August 9, 2009 at 5:23 PM
How are you Sherry? Had a nice little party out there.
LtE126 on August 9, 2009 at 5:23 PM
Yeah … oddly enough he always seems to miss years when the democrats/communists are in control.
darwin on August 9, 2009 at 5:25 PM
I’m good, thanks. I bet you did! Hope you had good weather. Was it a big crowd?
sherry on August 9, 2009 at 5:26 PM
I saw the banner on the picture for this story ‘the super-rich are screwing America’. At first I thought here we go again another bunch of stupidity amounting to a pile of you little peasants shouldn’t be trying to get a leg up on life. Or how about the line we know what’s good for you now kindly get back in line while we ‘smart’ people make the ‘right’ choices.
Then it dawned on me. He’s right. Soros and Turner are bit players really. Gates, Allen, and Buffet are each putting their fortunes to work supporting the bamster’s tripe. But, the winning answer comes right back to Islam. The princes, the sheiks, the ayatollahs have SO MUCH MONEY (and influence) I have to agree with Krugman, ‘The super-rich are screwing America’
The only response I can see is summed up in a handy little two word phrase Energy Independence.
Which is always fueled by my favorite word:
FREEDOM!!!
Blacksmith8 on August 9, 2009 at 5:28 PM
First Obama pretended that the tea party protests were not happening, or were so minuscule that they could be safely ignored. Then when faced with protests against his health care plans, he and his friends smear all of them as racist astroturfers.
I wonder, what would have happened if Bush had organized large crowds of people to counter-protest the anti-war protesters? Just as Obama is doing now against opponents of health care? What if Bush had set up an email address (flag@whitehouse.gov, as a random example) solely for his supporters to report “fishy” information being disseminated about the Iraq war?
I do believe all of these types of tactics would have been described as fascist, quite rationally and reasonably so. Yet when Obama and the Democrats do it, it’s all fine, and it’s not their goons who are the astroturfers, no, it is those who oppose the government that are!
When Obama got elected, I knew the United States was on its way to a “special” place, but I underestimated how quickly and how brazenly Obama and his thugs would go about it.
I’ve lost hope in America now.
Seixon on August 9, 2009 at 5:29 PM
Big crowd. Next year bigger…the 70th annual. Hot then hail hot then rain and fog…like always. Got caught three times in the stuff.
LtE126 on August 9, 2009 at 5:29 PM
excellent essay.
words DO have meaning………..
Janos Hunyadi on August 9, 2009 at 5:29 PM
Thank you.
Chaz706 on August 9, 2009 at 5:36 PM
This is just unprecedented. This president unleashes huge peices of legislation in less than 6 months and expects NO debate, NO discussion, NO push back. The mother of all turd burgers (Healthcare Reform) is presented to the electorate with an order to pass it “right now right now right now”.
So my parents and my in laws show up at Tea Parties and they are labeled as mobsters, fringe elements, extremists and terrorists. The folks are in their 70′s for crying out loud. And the person doing the labeling is the White House. And the White House says you should “snitch” on these old folks. And then people get beat up for showing up to voice opinions?
When was anyone ever assaulted during the anti war protests? When did the former administrations (including CLINTON) ever put up a snitch line?
WTF is this? Bizarro World?
Key West Reader on August 9, 2009 at 5:38 PM
“he and his friends smear all of them as racist astroturfers”
and this is what will turn everyone against him.
LtE126 on August 9, 2009 at 5:39 PM
I was going to post the same thing.
And am I right in assuming that each State Legislature will do the re-districting for the number of Representatives they’ll have in the 2014 Congressional Elections?
Thie woudl make it critical to work to get as many Conservatives elected on the State Level. So far the polling in Virginia and New Jersey indicate that many independents and moderates are becoming disillusioned with the current Adminsitration and the policies of the Democrat party. E.G., in Virginia, the Democrat Gubenatorial candidate (Deeds) is not super liberal compared to the core of their party, and yet he is about 14 pointsw behind the R Candidate in the current polling. That tell sme that many voters are communicating their displeasure of what’s happening nationally by their intended votes locally.
Red State State of Mind on August 9, 2009 at 5:41 PM
What exactly is “elite” about our “elites”?
Take this guy.
He lies regularly in his little NY Times column.
The sum total of what this clown contributes, could have come from a correspondence course economist. He just rails against anyone who disagrees with him, he doesn’t even bother to use facts.
Kind of like the corrupt and incompetent jackasses in the White House.
What exactly is “elite” about the Ivy League, for that matter?
We’d be better off electing our representatives from Obedience School than the Ivy League. Just worthless idiots graduate from Ivy League schools.
NoDonkey on August 9, 2009 at 5:44 PM
Let’s hope so. He’s back down to -8 on Rasmussen and I’m sure that polling was before he unleashed the Union goons on the town hall meetings.
Man, I just want things to get better. But since this douche has been in office he’s re-ignited and encouraged racial divides, pissed on our seniors, shat on our working people and is wiping his arse with our hard earned dollars that he’s giving to his union thugs and ACORN.
Something’s gotta give. Either this sh*t bag comes out with an apology and changes course and realizes that the USA doesn’t have a “king” I’m thinking he could get booted out before 2012. At least Biden is harmless.
Key West Reader on August 9, 2009 at 5:44 PM
He got there by playing race, and it’ll be his undoing.
LtE126 on August 9, 2009 at 5:46 PM
A few guys I know were discusing our Representatives a few months, and one of us, a somewhat Liberal to boot, suggested that we’d be better off if Congressional representation was handled like Jury Duty. Each State would randomly pick people from their registered voter rolls, and unless you had a hugely compelling reason NOT to go to Washington, you’d go for that term to represent your District. You’d serve your term, then go home and resume doing whatever it is that you do.
He even suggested dorms (like a college) to keep expenses down. It reminded me of a W F Buckley quote which was something to the effect that he’d rather be ruled by the first one hunded names in
pulled from the Boston phone book than by the Faculty of Harvard.
Red State State of Mind on August 9, 2009 at 5:50 PM
More Classic Deranged Liberal syndrome – you think like I think, therefore you are as deranged as I am.
It’s their fatal flaw. They believe they are smarter than everyone else and they are not. Their arrogance always outs them – as it’s doing with Obama. I can’t imagine the Dems have enough money to buy themselves the 2010 elections, not with the recession they refuse to let end.
gopmom on August 9, 2009 at 6:20 PM
Red State State of Mind on August 9, 2009 at 5:50 PM
Shhhh. If you let them in on our plan, all those professors will change their names to Aaaaaaaaaaaa, Aaaaaaaaaab, Aaaaaaaaaac, etc…
A great idea, though. Public service to the nation is meant to be a hiatus from your life and should be looked upon as a privilege and a sacrifice, not a retirement fund-er.
gopmom on August 9, 2009 at 6:23 PM
Obama turds will never be prosecuted.
tessa on August 9, 2009 at 6:38 PM
Looks like those brown shirts fit Krugman nicely
Capitalist Infidel on August 9, 2009 at 6:57 PM
Don’t forget to have your mom bring you in for your regular Monday session. First one of my assistants will wash your mouth out with soap and then we will try to get a better handle on your medication balance. As usual, my lad, you will get a lollipop when your hour is through.
Sigmund on August 9, 2009 at 8:03 PM
Former Enron advisor Paul Krugman…
Caper29 on August 9, 2009 at 8:37 PM
More of Pauls brilliance.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fexz8Ij-OBQ
capejasmine on August 9, 2009 at 8:53 PM
“Lighten up Francis” is one of my favorites; not everyone gets it.
I’ve also used “See, if we were in Italy….”
massrighty on August 9, 2009 at 9:17 PM
Krugman Carter and Arafat are the reasons the Nobel means nothing now. Politicians and the wealthy like this turd will never have to suffer the medical fate they want for the masses. Krugman is not only wealthy now, but a well known press creature. If he gets cancer, he will be taken care of by the finest MDs in the world and have a nice private room like the ACLU prostitute Ms Ginsberg on the tenth floor at 1200+ per day, courtesy of his rotten employer. What does he care. Drop dead.
mytralman on August 9, 2009 at 9:31 PM
We already knew they hated all of us on the Right.
Yesterday however, they felt the wrath of an aroused public. They will tomorrow, and the next day, and the next day after that. 2010 and 2012, here we come!
southsideironworks on August 9, 2009 at 9:42 PM
Sorry, I was off the site for a while
Yes, each state legislature draws the U.S. Congressional districts within its borders ( and none of the districts ever crosses a state boundary ). I said “most”, because some states simply have one district, and that district will never change unless that state accumulates more people.
Janos Hunyadi on August 9, 2009 at 10:48 PM
My personal favorite, Captain Stillman looking at the WAC barracks shower room with binoculars, “I wish I was a loofah.”
OK, back to the usual stuff…
This past year, I had to spend some serious hospital time, and as they worked up the billing, the cashier/bursar was using what appeared to be a schedule of charges.
Funny thing, that struck me as odd at the time, was that she asked for my health insurance ID card and then flipped through a huge binder, and then started entering items after she pulled up the same on her computer…
Apparently, various insurers “allow” a maximum payment for certain services. I asked, and she said according to agreements with various insurers hospitals and doctors have payment schedules that are pre-negotiated.
So, that initial charge for, say, for instance, mitral valve replacement may at the outset “cost” $25k, might end up costing the insurer only $15k, or less, rarely more.
The upfront official cost for procedures may be the same in a region or among a grouping of affiliated hospitals, but in the end what is actually charged is often less…except for Medicare, the cashier told me, as I recall the conversation. Medicare most often pays the original upfront standard cost, no questions asked.
Two questions.
First, does anyone here at H/A have access to one of these “payment schedules?”
Second, can anyone confirm that Medicare is paying top dollar for services?
Just trying to fill in some blanks, using facts, rather than anecdotal evidence.
Might help in understanding the overall scope of the health insurance “problem” and also show why going the single payer route or even the so-called Obamacare
mightwill end up costing a lot more than is being advertised.coldwarrior on August 9, 2009 at 11:20 PM
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Jeff from WI on August 10, 2009 at 9:18 AM
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Jeff from WI on August 10, 2009 at 9:20 AM
How many self loathing Jewish people are there in the Media? If you hate people it stands to reason it starts with hating yourself. As I recall Barbara Streisand sang a song about People who need People are the luckiest people…..Does the Left have any clue who they are supporting? Frank Rich wrote a column yesterday “Is Obama Punking Us” they won’t listen to the opposition they are trained and conditioned knee jerk to dismiss and ridicule anything their “Side” doesn’t disseminate. Perhaps someone on the inside will point out what is going on isn’t just anti Conservative.
Krugman, Emanuels, Barr…..where does all this HATE originate?
Dr Evil on August 10, 2009 at 9:34 AM
Nothing more than a mouthpiece for the Administration.
elderberry on August 10, 2009 at 10:01 AM
Who Hates You Baby?
Is this why Obama has been apologizing to everyone?
The Wall Street Journal Reported That Soros “Views America As The Gravest Threat To World Freedom.” “More recently, since September 11, Mr. Soros has made it his goal to burst what he has called ‘the bubble of American supremacy.’ He has said that having helped to liberate Communist countries, he now views America as the gravest threat to world freedom.” (Editorial, “Who Is George Soros?” The Wall Street Journal, 11/10/03)
http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/Articles/SOROS,%20GEORGE%20BACKGROUNDER1.htm
Dr Evil on August 10, 2009 at 10:27 AM
Soros Supports Assisted Suicide Laws
“Mr. Soros Provided $15 Million For The Death In America Project, Which Supports Euthanasia.” (Toni Marshall, “Enigmatic Billionaire,” The Washington Times, 11/9/97)
“Billionaire George Soros Has Contributed $250,000 To Retain Oregon’s Assisted Suicide Law …” (Corky Siemaszko, “Dave’s Top Cop Leads Houston Ballot,” [New York] Daily News, 11/4/97)
http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/Articles/SOROS,%20GEORGE%20BACKGROUNDER1.htm
In 1995, “Soros Voiced Disapproval Of His Father’s Reluctance To Die.” “In an interview with the New Yorker in 1995, Mr. Soros voiced disapproval of his father’s reluctance to die, even though he was gravely ill. ‘My father unfortunately wanted to live … and I was kind of disappointed in him. … I wrote him off,’ he said.” (Toni Marshall, “Enigmatic Billionaire,” The Washington Times, 11/9/97)
Dr Evil on August 10, 2009 at 10:34 AM
George Soros was born in Budapest in 1930 but, today, spends most of his time in New York City. Not much is known about his early years. He is the only eminent “holocaust survivor” who has been accused of collaboration with the Nazis. In 1947, he managed to sneak through the Iron Curtain, and, the official story goes, “he landed penniless in London, but by hard work and sheer genius, he rose to become one of the planet’s most successful investors and richest men.”
http://obambi.wordpress.com/2008/05/30/soros/
Dr Evil on August 10, 2009 at 10:35 AM
Mr. Soros voiced disapproval of his father’s reluctance to die, even though he was gravely ill. ‘My father unfortunately wanted to live … and I was kind of disappointed in him. … I wrote him off,’ he said
Dr Evil on August 10, 2009 at 10:36 AM
People who hate People, they fund campaigns of people, who want to control people……sung to Barbara Streisand’s people who need people.
Dr Evil on August 10, 2009 at 10:38 AM
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