And this isn’t “Astroturfing”?
posted at 5:35 pm on August 9, 2009 by Ed Morrissey
Jake Tapper reports today at ABC News about the White House using its campaign apparatus to drive ObamaCare advocates to townhall meetings this month. He reprints part of a mass e-mail effort, which we have also reported, by Organizing for America, using the e-mail lists from Barack Obama’s presidential campaign. Tapper draws the line explicitly to Obama and the White House, but inadvertently misses the DNC:
Supporters of President Obama formerly signed up as members of “Obama for America” received an email today from Mitch Stewart, the director of the group’s current incarnation, Organizing for America, to show up at town halls and congressional offices as a counter to the protestors against the president’s health care reform push.
Painting the protestors as “Insurance companies and partisan attack groups…stirring up fear with false rumors about the President’s plan,” Stewart’s email tells supporters whom their member of Congress is and even provides information about town hall meetings they may be holding. …
Democratic National Committee spokesman Brad Woodhouse said “we want OFA supporters – and all Americans – to be part of an informed, intelligent discussion about health insurance reform and the urgency of reigning in unfair insurance industry practices.
Organizing for America is a subsidiary of the Democratic National Committee, and its creation was announced by Barack Obama himself almost seven months ago. It exists to pressure Congress to enact Obama’s agenda. In fact, it has no other purpose at all, except to act as ground support for Barack Obama.
As the GOP spokesperson points out, there’s a heapin’ helping of hypocrisy coming out of the Oval Office these days:
But Brian Walsh of the National Republican Senatorial Committee said, “It’s interesting to see the President’s political machine calling on his supporters to use their Constitutional right to free speech when the White House spent the last week criticizing others for doing the exact same thing. Republicans agree that every American should have the right to voice their opinion in a calm, respectful manner but after the ‘astroturfing’ rhetoric from the Democrats this week, it’s hard to ignore the hypocrisy in this mass email.”
I have no problem with constituents holding their elected representatives responsible for their actions on Capitol Hill. Let the ObamaCare advocates come out and peacefully argue their case, unlike the SEIU’s union thugs in St. Louis last week. However, considering the turnouts OfA got for earlier health-care reform rallies, I somehow doubt they’ll match the intensity of the opposition to this radical legislation.









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Poor fools are in for a shock. Ginned up emotion can’t hold a candle to the authentic.
jimmy2shoes on August 9, 2009 at 5:38 PM
looks like they’re looking for help on craig’s list http://www.redstate.com/absentee/2009/08/09/lets-talk-astroturf/
Tazz 55 on August 9, 2009 at 5:39 PM
Gee, you know if they put all the effort they’ve put into trying to sell this bag of crap to the American people, into actually writing legislation that makes sense and might work, they might actually have something.
But then, they’re Democrats. They’ll work long hours on lying, cheating and stealing from the American people, but they can’t do one single moment of productive work.
NoDonkey on August 9, 2009 at 5:40 PM
Bring them on! They will be outnumbered 10 to 1 and will cower in the corner when faced with throngs of real Americans that are pissed off and want their elected representatives to actually represent.
conservnut on August 9, 2009 at 5:41 PM
I heard some woman say she was so angry last week she called the SEIU and complained. The guy who answered asked for her name and address. She said why? We want to send you an apology. She said it was not necessary. The guy asked for her address again and she hung up.
Serious or not, it’s still an intimidation tactic.
Blake on August 9, 2009 at 5:42 PM
This administration is going to a lot of effort to squelch dissent and organize against the opposition when all along they could have passed this thing last month. Obama just doesn’t have the guts to do it, he prefers discord. Someone should have told him be careful what you wish for.
sherry on August 9, 2009 at 5:42 PM
Tazz 55 on August 9, 2009 at 5:39 PM
Damn, I thought they were cracking down on the whole prostitution thing on Craig’s list. Guess not.
milwife88 on August 9, 2009 at 5:42 PM
Opponents of the bill don’t need some umbrella astroturfing org to get people to meetings. Pro-Obama groups do. Tells you all you need to know about how badly this bill is wanted by the people.
ddrintn on August 9, 2009 at 5:42 PM
That means we have to do our part and write to congressmen and encourage our friends to do the same. The People will beat astroturfing brownshirts every time.
BottomLine5 on August 9, 2009 at 5:42 PM
I wonder, is word really getting around about the planted Union thugs in the meetings? Or it is just the selective group of internet-savvy Conservatives that pay enough attention that know how manipulative Obama and his handlers are?
kingsjester on August 9, 2009 at 5:43 PM
Any insight as to the legality of this sort of organize and transport service being run out of the White House?
[Yes, I know, they say it is a DNC effort, or Organizing for America effort, but we all know it is the White House calling the shots. Why else would Obama still have his presidential campaign apparatus up and running seven months after he entered the White House?]
If a President cannot run a re-election campaign out of the White House, nor fund raise for a political party out of the White House…why is this sort of organize and transport stuff being done under a fig leaf, a flimsy one at that, with the White House calling the shots?
Same with flag@whitehouse.gov.
There has got to be several legal lines that have been crossed already. Think the DoJ will get right on it?
coldwarrior on August 9, 2009 at 5:43 PM
The minions of The Anointed One are running scared…the more the public reads of this mess, the less they like it and normal Obama lies are not flying…
JIMV on August 9, 2009 at 5:43 PM
Stunner… Pelosi’s Supporters and Allies Created Bush-Hitler Ads During 2004 Election
TheBigOldDog on August 9, 2009 at 5:45 PM
Obama and his Marxist buddies were caught off guard by real grassroots protesting. Apparently the Marxist script calls for mindless automatons to accept everything they shove down our throats. Guess we’re not quite as mindless as they thought.
Anyway, if the Obama Marxist script didn’t plan for these protests … I wonder if it plans for the unprecedented backlash that will occur if the democrats do pass this Marxist bill.
darwin on August 9, 2009 at 5:45 PM
So whippertapper makes some stabs on real reporting to , good for him.
the_nile on August 9, 2009 at 5:46 PM
Is this for real? Where is the money coming from to pay these people?
We need to follow the money boys!
conservnut on August 9, 2009 at 5:46 PM
There’s a HUGE creepiness factor here too. Not only did Obama long this group himself, just days before his inauguration, but if you search for ‘Organizing for America’ today… well, here it is:
http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=organizing+for+america&ei=UTF-8&fr=moz2
Number 1 search result?
Add in that “organizing” is the closest thing to a resume this fascist SOB has. Also, don’t forget his radical associates and what they’ve been up to for the past few months. Go back to Black Panthers intimidating voters on election day. Look at ACORN ordering police to silence people in Baton Rouge. Look at SEIU assaulting people. Look at busing people to AIG executives’ homes to threaten them, after they took bonuses that Obama’s administration insisted they get, before pretending to be outraged about them.
Wake up folks.
RightWinged on August 9, 2009 at 5:46 PM
Once he’s gone from office, I’d like to see the R-Attorney General taunt Obama for a couple of years with prosecution. We deserve a little fun, don’t we?
sherry on August 9, 2009 at 5:46 PM
Mentioned going down to DC on the 12th to a friend of mine who works in DC. His immediate response was “You? You are going to be among the “teabaggers” parade?”
I asked him where he got that phrase. He said it is common talk around DC.
That’s what it is being framed as in DC now, as we speak.
coldwarrior on August 9, 2009 at 5:47 PM
Someone should do a spoof about dr Mengele and democrat death panels.
the_nile on August 9, 2009 at 5:49 PM
“That’s Different” – The Democrats.
Techie on August 9, 2009 at 5:51 PM
I don’t think it’s that. I think he really wants to go down in the history books as a real changer and uniter, regardless of whether he attains that through his charm and intellect or whether he achieves it by force.
misslizzi on August 9, 2009 at 5:51 PM
Just guessing here but I bet a bunch of people who signed up for Pinnochio’s “Organizing For America” aren’t buyin Pinnochios bulls… when it comes to HealthScare and Crap and Tax.
Obviously some are leftwing nutjobs but I bet some were buyin the post raicial, uniting America, Hope and Change and not signin up for a socialization of HealthCare, Auto, Banks, Insurance companies, and America herself!
No-one I know wants Rahm Emmanuel or his brother Ezekiel visiting them when their doctor tells them they need a hip replacement, gall blader surgery, prostrate or breast cancer at age 55.
As for me I hope they send Ezekiel to my house at that point I will be locked and loaded!
dhunter on August 9, 2009 at 5:51 PM
Their side is a bunch of lemmings. They can only organize when told to do so.
SouthernGent on August 9, 2009 at 5:52 PM
This is too rich. They are turning up craigslist ads to campaign for obamacare for money.
casel21 on August 9, 2009 at 5:53 PM
Organizing for America hosted a Health Care Forum in my town of Flagstaff, AZ last Thursday night. They used a concert venue/theater downtown and only opened one of the six front doors at the front entrance. This was done to create a bottleneck of people entering who were forced to meet and shake hands with the local OfA operative. Furthermore, to gain access to the auditorium OfA required everyone to sign up with full name, phone number, address, email, and occupation.
All questions put to Kyrsten Sinema, an AZ state legislator and member of Obama’s health care reform task force, had to be put into writing and submitted before the event began. The questions were then read aloud by members of the panel of presenters, not the people. Ms Sinema also warned before she began speaking that anyone who did not want to follow their rules could feel free to “step outside onto the sidewalk, where your First Amendment rights would be respected.”
I have badly filmed cellphone video of the event’s entirety.
HockeyTemper on August 9, 2009 at 5:53 PM
With “the Boss” and “the Great One” being newly minted (?), er, millionaires, I have a suggestion for a small portion of their newfound status: Who is funding, running, and coordinating the overlapping websites? Truly creepy. Wish there were an independent media.
clorensen on August 9, 2009 at 5:54 PM
Well, look at it this way. Huge grassroots opposition to the bill has risen WITHOUT any real examination of the bill in the MSM. We don’t need the MSM to get the word out. It’s getting around.
ddrintn on August 9, 2009 at 5:55 PM
And when will the press figure out that all Obama did in his early Chicago career was be an Astroturfing Community Organizer? People or organizations told Obama to get people out to vote or protest or whatever – without Obama, the Chicago “community organizer”, most of these people would have done nothing.
And does the media also draw a blank when not seeing that Obama is against community organizing when the community organizes against him or Democratic party programs? Obama ran on being a community organizer – but he is really against it.
Kind of like Obama ran on being the post-racial President, but he is really has some deep anti-white feelings and prejudices. As shown by his recent episode with the policeman and the professor.
albill on August 9, 2009 at 5:55 PM
Nothing new. When the Kerry-Edwards campaign rolled through here in 2004, the “supporters” were almost all SEIU members and all were being paid a lot more than minimum wage plus expenses for coming along on the ride. 100-plus bus loads of SEIU and other paid “supporters.”
Obnoxious bunch, too.
This county went heavily to Bush in that one. Was real close in 2000. The local folks just didn’t like organized outsider thugs telling them how to vote.
coldwarrior on August 9, 2009 at 5:56 PM
These people are sooooooooo ripe for a mighty takedown.
ddrintn on August 9, 2009 at 5:57 PM
..well, then, your majesty, no disrespect, but we’d better get our asses out there and let the folks who don’t know about this what the 4-1-1 really is instead of prattling amongst ourselves. I mean, if we don’t it would be like some colonist saying, “I wonder why that guy rode through here on a horse tonight bragging about his ‘two arms’? Everyone’s got two arms, don’t they?”
VoyskaPVO on August 9, 2009 at 5:58 PM
Poster “acted stupidly” and no doubs that the poster’s “rhetorical flourish… fell flat”. Next time poster will “calibrate words… more carefully.”
/sarc off
clorensen on August 9, 2009 at 5:58 PM
Drudge headline.
Wethal on August 9, 2009 at 6:00 PM
With “the Boss” and “the Great One” being newly minted (?), er, millionaires, I have a suggestion for a small portion of their newfound status: Who is funding, running, and coordinating the overlapping websites? Truly creepy. Wish there were an independent media.
clorensen on August 9, 2009 at 5:54 PM
..love to have them compare balance sheets and contribution declarations with Soros, wouldn’t you?
VoyskaPVO on August 9, 2009 at 6:02 PM
Amazing how he is already looking for historical accolades and he treats the business at hand as simply a distraction to the big brass ring of worldwide infamy. Same way he operated in the senate. Couldn’t be bothered with the daily grind.
sherry on August 9, 2009 at 6:03 PM
“You are either with us or against us”
faraway on August 9, 2009 at 6:03 PM
O.M.G.
Key West Reader on August 9, 2009 at 6:04 PM
Wow, Nancy must have got a hold of some crayons, little Miss fang face wrote something.
Pelosi calling someone “un-American” is like her calling someone a worthless, corrupt and incompetent idiot shrew.
Worst House Speaker ever and her little terrier Hoyer is just as much an idiot as Pelosi is.
NoDonkey on August 9, 2009 at 6:04 PM
Drudge headline.
Wethal on August 9, 2009 at 6:00 PM
Also love to see how this Drudge headline turns out: “Woman Sets Fire To Man’s Genitals…”
VoyskaPVO on August 9, 2009 at 6:05 PM
You can’t expect more from ethically challenged, morally corrupt groups of people, can you?
capejasmine on August 9, 2009 at 6:06 PM
USA Today?? Wonder why the NY Times didn’t run this.
Tazz 55 on August 9, 2009 at 6:07 PM
This is NOT Democracy in action. This is thuggery and intimidation, pure and simple.
People have the right to protest this healthcare reform thing and let thri voices be heard. It is one thing for their elected officials to turn a deaf ear to their concerns. It is another thing for their elected officials to engage in forcing them into silence by intimidation.
These strong-arm “community activist” tactics on Obama’s part are going to come back and haunt him big time, unless he reigns in his pit bulls, starting with his Thug-In-Chief Rahm Emmanuel and his SEUI playmates.
pilamaye on August 9, 2009 at 6:07 PM
HockeyTemper on August 9, 2009 at 5:53 PM
These creeps have an event scheduled for my town also in 2 weeks. They have been very quiet about who is sponsoring it though.
I was curious why someone with a phone exchange that was 50 miles away would set up something in my town of 6,000. A little bit of Googling and I found his Plaxo page. His profile identifies his occupation as a Field Organizer with Obama for America. Click on the link and you’re directed to BarackObama(dot)com’s Organizing for America website—a DNC entity.
Needless to say, I’ve duly notified all the Tea Party people in the area and we plan a healthy counter-protest.
IrishEi on August 9, 2009 at 6:10 PM
Interesting bit from Redstate that may explain the Craigslist ads. Obama can’t get the volunteers he did last fall, despite three emails to the faithful. The Kiddie Crusade has moved on to the next fad. The older supporters are realizing they bought a high-taxing pig in a poke, and are busy scraping the Obama bumper sticker off the car.
So it’s only union thugs and rent-a-mobs to attend townhalls.
Wethal on August 9, 2009 at 6:10 PM
Aren’t paid activists more commonly known as mercenaries?
obladioblada on August 9, 2009 at 6:11 PM
I saw someone pose this question before but given the obvious passion against this what are the democrats and liberals thinking a post-Obamacare America is going to be like. In my mind I want to ask liberals “If we outlawed ABortion just because we could with 60 Republicans Senators would you on the left just consider it all over with?”
Anyone with thoughts on what a post-Obamacare passage America with 57-60 democrats would look and sound like?
They don’t seem to notice it would be 1860 again.
Conan on August 9, 2009 at 6:11 PM
Wake up folks. Tens of thousands of Marxists are hard at work changing America while we go to work and send tax money to fund these very organizations.
faraway on August 9, 2009 at 6:12 PM
If we can’t call what Obama is doing “astroturfing”, can we at least call them a bunch of “teabaggers”?
applebutter on August 9, 2009 at 6:12 PM
That site needs to receive a whole bunch of applicants. If you know what I mean.
Cindy Munford on August 9, 2009 at 6:14 PM
The Democrat party, the liberal movement in general, is one big field of astroturf.
Grafted on August 9, 2009 at 6:14 PM
Exactly. The numbers are just not there anymore.
misslizzi on August 9, 2009 at 6:14 PM
I got one of these emails. Anyone else in Southern California? Visit Dianne Feinstein’s office this week to tell them how you feel about this.
http://my.barackobama.com/page/content/officevisit?office=2585&source=20090809
El_Terrible on August 9, 2009 at 6:14 PM
Reid amd Peloser are the personification of evil. Obama is learning on the run and the crash course of Chicago thug politics is just the first step.
volsense on August 9, 2009 at 6:15 PM
I can’t believe our cowards in Congress and the Senate
Maybe we can start singing this to them?
Come gather ’round people
Wherever you roam
And admit that the waters
Around you have grown
And accept it that soon
You’ll be drenched to the bone.
If your time to you
Is worth savin’
Then you better start swimmin’
Or you’ll sink like a stone
For the times they are a-changin’.
Come writers and critics
Who prophesize with your pen
And keep your eyes wide
The chance won’t come again
And don’t speak too soon
For the wheel’s still in spin
And there’s no tellin’ who
That it’s namin’.
For the loser now
Will be later to win
For the times they are a-changin’.
Come senators, congressmen
Please heed the call
Don’t stand in the doorway
Don’t block up the hall
For he that gets hurt
Will be he who has stalled
There’s a battle outside
And it is ragin’.
It’ll soon shake your windows
And rattle your walls
For the times they are a-changin’.
katy the mean old lady on August 9, 2009 at 6:17 PM
El_Terrible on August 9, 2009 at 6:14 PM
LOL.
I wonder what constitutes a “successful visit.” Successful for whom?
misslizzi on August 9, 2009 at 6:18 PM
They got the money in the stimulus bill. Remember how coservatives pushed to get ACORN funding stripped ? It was put back by Pelosi I believe…they are using our money to fight us and our will…
CCRWM on August 9, 2009 at 6:18 PM
A better title for the piece would have been:
When “astroturfing” ISN’T “astroturfing”
It’s just more of that Democratic “nuance”. What used to be called hypocrisy.
GarandFan on August 9, 2009 at 6:19 PM
I would add that this is different from the campaign. You aren’t defending the image you have of Obama as the messiah you are now defending exact proposals that people know the real life implications of and can give you a smackdown.
in summary …. The first black president, etc had a bunch of feel good stuff for the volunteer bragging rights included
Obamacare has some nasty anger coming on it along with the responsiblity of possibly wrecking people’s healthcare and that these feel good seekers don’t want any part of. Not the same thing at all.
Conan on August 9, 2009 at 6:19 PM
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+100
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RalphyBoy on August 9, 2009 at 6:22 PM
I like it. Can I quote you? (and attribute of course!)
INC on August 9, 2009 at 6:22 PM
katy the mean old lady on August 9, 2009 at 6:22 PM
Honey, Bob Dylan gets the credit. I’m sure he’d freak!
katy the mean old lady on August 9, 2009 at 6:25 PM
Thanks.
Upstater85 on August 9, 2009 at 6:29 PM
I knew it was Dylan, I thought you’d changed the words they fit so well!
Wow–I’ve lost my memory!
INC on August 9, 2009 at 6:29 PM
Here’s the guide for when you visit.
http://www.barackobama.com/pdf/HC_OfficeVisits/OfficeVisit_CA.pdf
El_Terrible on August 9, 2009 at 6:32 PM
Maybe we need to ask these hookers if this makes us involuntary “Johns”.
katy the mean old lady on August 9, 2009 at 6:22 PM
Ugh… Can you believe that this is happening…that we’re at war with our government? cuz we are…
CCRWM on August 9, 2009 at 6:32 PM
What’s wrong with you people, don’t you understand that the One can do anything he wants because the Messiah is never wrong and those that oppose him must be stopped!!!! Off to the Gulags! All decent must be crushed, there will be no decent against the leader!
flytier on August 9, 2009 at 6:34 PM
Is it legal for them to be paid by a sitting Precedent?
Key West Reader on August 9, 2009 at 6:35 PM
Austin:Texas::Flagstaff:Arizona
That is all that needs to be said.
chemman on August 9, 2009 at 6:39 PM
I’m wondering that too. I’m also wondering if someone with a camera might want to ask a few questions of these people when they get off the bus or go in the back door. “Were you paid to come here?” “How much?” “By whom?”
It’s high time we create a media of our own to interview, dig, and get the message out. The platform to do so is easy, available, and only takes a bit of know-how. I think that ambitious reporters could interview the representatives that will talk or those challengers that want to talk. Think Jason M? (Sorry, drawing a blank on his last name.) You don’t have to be rude, mean, or anything. Just ask some questions. Either their answers or refusal to answer could be very telling…like Carahan’s staff member the other day. Who knows what could be learned this way.
UnderstandingisPower on August 9, 2009 at 6:39 PM
In case nobody has yet suggested this… we need to turn in this email to the “snitch” line for misinformation on health care.
mankai on August 9, 2009 at 6:40 PM
He still has his personal campaign funds left over from 2008. He nver stops campaigning.
But then who would look into any illegality? Holder? Yeah, right.
Wethal on August 9, 2009 at 6:41 PM
Well, considering the great number of non-Obama supporters who are on unemployment perhaps they should sign up. A job is a job. And with camera’s and recorders who knows.
But the question still begs: Who will be doing the interviewing, hiring, fitting of uniforms and funding of this gig? If the WH is behind it, it stinks to high Heaven and this thug should be removed. This is outrageous.
Key West Reader on August 9, 2009 at 6:42 PM
Hmmm. One group of Americans are organizing, and another group are doing the same.
Does anybody see the danger in this? Does the president?
Everybody was comparing Barack Obama to Abraham Lincoln. Could he be more of James Buchanan?
It’s 1857.
Ampleforth on August 9, 2009 at 6:42 PM
It’s highly possible that the Obama for America folks don’t want the health care bill either. O is still assuming that his charm trumps other considerations.
jeanie on August 9, 2009 at 6:43 PM
All
decentdissent must be crushedMy English teacher father is rolling over in his grave.
flytier on August 9, 2009 at 6:43 PM
Mercenaries never fight as hard as the soldiers protecting their own ground.
This entire episode is taking a bad, bad turn when Ogabe has to bring out the Rent-A-Mobs to make it seem like he has more support than exists in reality. Those are tactics of Iran, Venezuela, North Korean and the Palestinian wastelands.
Bishop on August 9, 2009 at 6:44 PM
No, I would not give you false hope
In this strange and mournful time
But the Founding Father’s and the American People’s reu-nion
May be only another Obama overreach away
I cant for the life of me
Remember a sadder time
I know some say let it be
But it just wont work out well that way
And the course of a tyrant runs
Over and over again
No, I would not give you false hope
In this strange and mournful time
But the Founding Father’s and the American People’s reu-nion
May be only another Obama overreach away
I just cant believe its so,
And though it seems strange to say
America has never been laid so low
In such a tyrannical way
And the course tyrant runs
Over and over again
No, I would not give you false hope
In this strange and mournful time
But the Founding Father’s and the American people’s reu-nion
May be only another Obama overreach away
Oh, but the Founding Father’s and the American people’s reu-nion
May be only another Obama overreach away
Luka on August 9, 2009 at 6:45 PM
FIFY
chemman on August 9, 2009 at 6:45 PM
These Dems must be stopped. They make me sick. Recruiting posers, fake stooges and Union thugs. This will not fly. It is ugly, very ugly—to have a sitting president openly tell people to hit back twice as hard.
Unprecidented. He has scarred our country and mangled the constitution. Wake up Blue Dogs. Obama is toxic to freedom.
Geochelone on August 9, 2009 at 6:45 PM
Jeanie, my thought on this is that they’re already on Medicaid so they have no skin in the game.
Key West Reader on August 9, 2009 at 6:46 PM
And his Union thugs are a physical hazard to our seniors. Perhaps this is a campaign to scare our seniors and concerned citizens. It’s the chicago way. Thug.
Key West Reader on August 9, 2009 at 6:48 PM
It’s the short term memory that is the “old geezer” curse!
katy the mean old lady on August 9, 2009 at 6:49 PM
Unbelievable, they are hiring people to protest?
From the Columbus, OH Craigslist under Jobs>nonprofit jobs;
Become a part of the fight for environmental justice! Need informed and motivated individuals to lobby on the constituent level to pass the Clean Water Protection Act, the Appalachian Restoration Act, and to fight the AMP Ohio Coal Plant. Ohio Citizen Action has been around since 1975 leading the fight for clean air and water and healthier neighborhoods, helping organize communities to take on major polluters. Working to pressure lawmakers to take a strong stance against the harmful process of mountaintop removal coal mining and to move Ohio away from it’s reliance on a limited resource and the use of old technologies. One person contacting lawmakers can be ignored but through the power of organizing, lawmakers are held accountable to the people they are elected to represent. Become the voice of the people in the political system!
Contact our office to set up an informational interview (614) 263-4637
*****
This is one of many in my state on Craigslist.
Jason58 on August 9, 2009 at 6:49 PM
Nan the strechyface sure does know a lot about unamericans :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HbAgwzVilEw
macncheez on August 9, 2009 at 6:51 PM
I personally know quite a few seniors who voted for Obama who do not like OCare. Whether or not this will translate into GOP votes I cannot say. But, strongly suspect that anyone, even a chimpanzee, who says and means they will not vote for it or will help roll it back will get their vote.
jeanie on August 9, 2009 at 6:52 PM
LOL! Hadn’t thought of it this way but you may just be right. I forgot about the homeless ACORN folks running around getting registrations in return for cigarettes. Still, seems they have a computer or cell phone to get the message.
jeanie on August 9, 2009 at 6:56 PM
Jason? I think you’re on to something. This needs to be exposed immediately. All of the Craigslist calls for PAID activism needs to be disclosed and exposed. If Obama’s White House is behind this, it’s a game changer.
Key West Reader on August 9, 2009 at 6:58 PM
with all the crap Obama, Pelosi, Frank, Dodd, Reid, and Emanuel keep trying to cram down our throats and force our county where it doesn’t want to go, one quote keeps coming to my mind. Todd Beamer 9/11/01- “Are you Ready…. Let’s Roll”
Tazz 55 on August 9, 2009 at 6:59 PM
Well, they hired people to “get the vote out” for the 2008 election (ACORN) so why is its no surprise that they are hiring people to protest. And it may not simply be a sign that they are afraid they will lose – it may just be insurance. That’s what worries me.
mph on August 9, 2009 at 7:00 PM
No, it’s not astroturfing. The left thinks that insurance companies are paying people to fake outrage about health reform. Genuine organizing is legitimate. Instead of making false accusations against the left that their organizing is astroturfing, we should simply demand proof that there is an organized campaign paying people to fake outrage. I don’t see insurance companies paying people to write letters to the editor that say “I voted for Obama, but…”
So if you want to put the “Astroturf” label on the left, you need to show David Axelrod’s tactics, you need to find examples of fake “I voted for Bush, but…” letters to the editor, etc.
Otherwise, just keep demanding that the Democrats show proof that insurance companies are paying people to go to townhalls with fake outrage.
Oh, and they also consider it astroturf because they think that the objections are phony and that they are lies spread by insurance companies to get people upset about things. And when there are people actually on Medicare saying things like “Get your government hands off my Medicare!” that doesn’t help our cause.
Dan Minardi on August 9, 2009 at 7:01 PM
Perhaps the White House …. on 9/11. Oh. Nevermind.
Key West Reader on August 9, 2009 at 7:06 PM
Correcting myself here..
Key West Reader on August 9, 2009 at 7:08 PM
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