Video: SEIU activists try to set ObamaCare opponents straight

posted at 2:55 pm on August 7, 2009 by Ed Morrissey

After the President himself talked about getting in people’s faces when they oppose his policies and setting up snitch lines at the White House, the only shocker in this video is that it took so long for townhalls to turn violent. The SEIU showed up in t-shirted uniform to a townhall meeting for Rep. Russ Carnahan in St. Louis, apparently intent on demonstrating union tactics in organizing elections if Congress passes Card Check. The video below shows the immediate aftermath of the attack, including the arrest of one of the SEIU’s thugs:

His excuse? After being berated by a member of the crowd for attacking a black conservative for opposing ObamaCare, the union thug replied, “He attacked America!” The same goon made a threatening motion to the vocal witness, but perhaps thought better of it when he saw the camera. Police eventually responded and started arresting a number of people, including one reporter on the scene:

Kenneth Gladney, a 38-year-old conservative activist from St. Louis, said he was attacked by some of those arrested as he handed out yellow flags with “Don’t tread on me” printed on them. He spoke to the Post-Dispatch from the emergency room of the St. John’s Mercy Medical Center, where he said he was waiting to be treated for injuries to his knee, back, elbow, shoulder and face that he suffered in the attack. Gladney, who is black, said one of his attackers, also a black man, used a racial slur against him before the attack started.

“It just seems there’s no freedom of speech without being attacked,” he said.

Pay attention, America. This is a glimpse into the next three years of the Obama administration, at least using the same logic by which the Left accuses health-care reform opponents of “astroturfing”. If its policies get organized opposition, especially at events designed to allow for public debate, purple-shirted thugs will appear to crack heads and scare off the opposition.

And if nothing else, it’s a great look at how the unions will act once the secret ballot gets eliminated from organizing elections.


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If its policies get organized opposition, especially at events designed to allow for public debate, purple-shirted thugs will appear to crack heads and scare off the opposition.

Problem for the thugs is that this isn’t Iran, where people just take it and take it from these types. If they aren’t careful this could lead to serious violence, especially at functions held in right-to-work states already suspicious of union goons. In real mobs, flash points form quickly, and people are going to get hurt if these a-holes don’t knock it off. Cooler heads need to step in soon.

Blacksheep on August 7, 2009 at 3:27 PM

Thankfully, our side has more guns.

chromium on August 7, 2009 at 3:27 PM

These thugs think they’re scary? All they’re going to do is piss off and embolden people if they keep this shit up

His excuse? After being berated by a member of the crowd for attacking a black conservative for opposing ObamaCare, the union thug replied, “He attacked America!”

I thought that’s what he said upon first watching, too, but if you’ll notice, in the seconds before he’s saying that Gladney “attacked a minister”. I think he may have just still been saying “a minister” rather than “America”. Wouldn’t surprise me, but that’s my guess.

RightWinged on August 7, 2009 at 3:28 PM

We need to re-awaken and reactivate The Culpeper Minute Men!

And so it begins…be safe out there my fellow Americans, my fellow patriots, my brothers and sisters!

they are awake… they are Ken Gladney…

they are St. Louis…they are Tampa… they are Denver…they are All Americans.

ted c on August 7, 2009 at 3:28 PM

Thugobama White House: “Hit them back twice as hard!”

Now, about what The President has to know?

maverick muse on August 7, 2009 at 3:19 PM

sounds like he’s bringing a knife to a gunfight.

Fighton03 on August 7, 2009 at 3:28 PM

SHAME on people who are denying who is responsible for this violence. SHAME on those who are blaming grandmothers and grandfathers for what is happening out there today.

This – right here – is the face of Obama and his Chicago politics, and if you “liberals” support it, you are as much to blame for it as he is.

Disgusting.

capitalist piglet on August 7, 2009 at 3:29 PM

Thankfully, our side has more guns.

chromium on August 7, 2009 at 3:27 PM

….and trained GIs and Marines

thomasaur on August 7, 2009 at 3:29 PM

I’m not convinced. The President has to know this will only hurt him.

Esthier on August 7, 2009 at 3:02 PM

Obama is pushing a radical agenda, and is mobilizing his forces to fire up and “punch back twice as hard.” He thrived on confrontation as a community organizer, and that is where his instincts apparently lie.

ICBM on August 7, 2009 at 3:29 PM

These thugs think they’re scary?

Not yet.

Fighton03 on August 7, 2009 at 3:29 PM

We shall overcome.
We shall overcome.
We shall overcome, some day.
Because deep in my heart, I do believe,
That we shall overcome, some day.

gridlock2 on August 7, 2009 at 3:30 PM

So where are the loud screamers known as Henry Gates Jr, Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, ACLU and NAACP now?

nor on August 7, 2009 at 3:30 PM

“He attacked America” by handing out Don’t Tread On Me flags???

WTF

Trafalgar on August 7, 2009 at 3:30 PM

This is a glimpse into the next three years of the Obama administration…

Yep, and the road to riots.

petefrt on August 7, 2009 at 3:31 PM

I am so glad there are Patriots standing right there videotaping this stuff. What a buffoon this guy is… a stereotypical thug. The apples aren’t falling too far from the tree.

ted c on August 7, 2009 at 3:32 PM

Beck just suggested Googling the number of Obama’s health care advisors who also have eugenics credentials.

a capella on August 7, 2009 at 3:32 PM

We need to organize “sons of liberty” with people trained in civil disobedience tactics and self-defense….

sven10077 on August 7, 2009 at 2:58 PM

We need to re-awaken and reactivate The Culpeper Minute Men!

And so it begins…be safe out there my fellow Americans, my fellow patriots, my brothers and sisters!

LIBERTY OR DEATH…DO NOT TREAD ON ME!

Liberty or Death on August 7, 2009 at 3:33 PM

Mr. Ken Gladney deserves a purple heart, a combat patch and the site where that incident occurred memorialized in granite.

The fight “heard ’round the world…”

ted c on August 7, 2009 at 3:33 PM

…there comes word that John Sweeney of the AFL-CIO has announced he’ll be sending in union members to the meetings to counter health care’s critics.

Peggy Noonan is terrified.

nor on August 7, 2009 at 3:33 PM

“And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand? After all, you knew ahead of time that those bluecaps were out at night for no good purpose. And you could be sure ahead of time that you’d be cracking the skull of a cutthroat. Or what about the Black Maria sitting out there on the street with one lonely chauffeur — what if it had been driven off or its tires spiked. The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin’s thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt!”
- Solzhenitsyn

What’s old is what’s new again – remember the lessons of the past.

Rebar on August 7, 2009 at 3:34 PM

Good for John Sweeney.

Good for the AFL-CIO

step into the arena of ideas and get thumped.

ted c on August 7, 2009 at 3:34 PM

So where are the loud screamers known as Henry Gates Jr, Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, ACLU and NAACP now?

nor on August 7, 2009 at 3:30 PM

Good point, I think Madison made it earlier as well. For years we sheeple have sat on the sidelines, fuming under our breath about the unfairness of the accusations hurled about by liberals, et al.

Now we are seeing the faces of our neighbors, grandparents, and friends as they are being shut out, threatened and attacked physically. It should give us all courage to make the effort and stand with them.

catlady on August 7, 2009 at 3:35 PM

Just heard Mike Malloy say the most foul things about Beck I’ve ever heard. I guess he also wished Levin dead, too. What an a-hole.

Blake on August 7, 2009 at 3:14 PM

I don’t see any outrage out there about it either. Malloy should be pulled off the air. That was a disgusting thing to say.

TXMomof3 on August 7, 2009 at 3:36 PM

So where are the loud screamers known as Henry Gates Jr, Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, ACLU and NAACP now?

nor on August 7, 2009 at 3:30 PM

I believe antiObama health care people are having a rally and press conference at the SEIU headquarters in St. Louis tomorrow at noon regarding the attack on a black conservative. The NAACP has been invited to attend..

a capella on August 7, 2009 at 3:37 PM

“He attacked America” by handing out Don’t Tread On Me flags???

WTF

Trafalgar on August 7, 2009 at 3:30 PM

No one ever said union thugs were smart.

capitalist piglet on August 7, 2009 at 3:37 PM

Purple is the new brown.

agmartin on August 7, 2009 at 3:37 PM

This is the shot across the bow. Ignore it at your peril.

Be sure to arm yourselves if you attend these kinds of gatherings.

LimeyGeek on August 7, 2009 at 3:37 PM

The President of the United States says the protesters against his policies are illegitimate, and encourages his supporters to physically intimidate them to shut them up and get them out of the way. Within hours SEIU thugs disrupt several public events, resulting in intimidation, injuries, and arrests.

The press says… nothing. The MSM says… nothing. The talking heads on network news say… nothing. The President of the United States asks for and provokes violent responses to citizen protests based on the fact that they disagree with him, and does so in public, on-record… and nobody in the media says anything about it, asks him anything about it, or reports on the inevitable outcome of it.

Yesterday the Seattle Times reorted as fact that the protests are “astroturfed”… reported that Obama talking point as fact, on the front page!

And today, after union thugs tried to do what the President of the United States urged them to do, break the law and commit assault for political purposes… today that joke of a newspaper had absolutely zero coverage of these events!

This is what happens when the press works for one party.

This is what happens when Community Organizing is practiced by the President of the United States… who as of this moment is guilty of incitement to criminal activity, and who in my mind is a disgrace.

drunyan8315 on August 7, 2009 at 3:38 PM

Rebar on August 7, 2009 at 3:34 PM

One of the best lines I’ve ever read was from Gulag Archipelago where Solzhenitsyn describes the moment he was taken into custody.

I’m paraphrasing and not doing it any kind of justice, but he basically says, in that moment, what was thought to be impossible became crushing reality in a blinding and terrifying flash.

I don’t own the book and can never find the quote online, but I’ll give it a go.

BadgerHawk on August 7, 2009 at 3:38 PM

And it is such a gay fashion statement!! Sorry romeo13…

catlady on August 7, 2009 at 3:38 PM

I am shocked things took this long to get violent. I don’t like that they have but I really think that average people, not libtards who tend to get angry at everything, have had just about enough of this guy and we’re only 6 months in.

I really think the violence will escalate, too.

Obama has really brought us all together, hasn’t he?

*Kumbayaaaaaaaaaaa*

RedNewEnglander on August 7, 2009 at 3:39 PM

Now we are seeing the faces of our neighbors, grandparents, and friends as they are being shut out, threatened and attacked physically. It should give us all courage to make the effort and stand with them.

catlady on August 7, 2009 at 3:35 PM

Must be a shocker. They never expected canes, walkers, etc to shout.

nor on August 7, 2009 at 3:39 PM

What?…no statement of support from Dear Leader to His Minions? It is getting late in the day…where are their marching orders for tonight?

ornery_independent on August 7, 2009 at 3:39 PM

Don’t believe for a minute that jesse and al will be around to discuss this issue since they are on their payroll.

So is Obama apparently.

workingforpigs on August 7, 2009 at 3:40 PM

I hope I get to question her. Any suggestions for questions? I’m thinking tort reform? Or just how the hell w/a doctor shortage right now are we going to add that mythical 47 million to the healthcare roster w/out lines and rationing?

JAM on August 7, 2009 at 3:23 PM

Ask her if she will sign a pledge that she and everyone in her family will enroll in the government insuarance plan. Then ask if she will sign a pledge to not fly in one of the three $150 million private jets that Congress just bought for itself.

The more we expose these bastards as a self-serving nomenklatura, the better.

rockmom on August 7, 2009 at 3:40 PM

“He attacked America” by handing out Don’t Tread On Me flags???

This Obama Thugz guy obviously has the mental capacity of a shot glass. I hope he gets charged with and convicted of assault. I hope anyone who gave the order to go and do this type of stuff gets investigated as well. This is against the orderly society.

ted c on August 7, 2009 at 3:40 PM

Personally, I would not arm myself with my concealed weapon for a rally, because that would give the left more fodder. It seems to me a video camera works wonders at exposing the cockroaches. It is amazing the power of You Tube these days.I wil be very concerned when it goes down…

catlady on August 7, 2009 at 3:40 PM

What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family?

This is a key tactic against obama’s fascism. Let’s hope we never have to employ it.

But do not hesitate to do so if we do.

LimeyGeek on August 7, 2009 at 3:40 PM

Be sure to arm yourselves if you attend these kinds of gatherings.

LimeyGeek on August 7, 2009 at 3:37 PM

Be careful with that. It will be spun against you. Instead consciously think of how to use ordinary items like keys, purses, backpacks etc in new and creative ways. Stay with your group, keep cameras rolling. Being armed (in the sam colt sense) comes after the SEI-F-U has been on the nightly news a little more.

Fighton03 on August 7, 2009 at 3:41 PM

Obots will find out pushback isn’t fun.

desertdweller on August 7, 2009 at 3:42 PM

What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family?

This is a key tactic against obama’s fascism. Let’s hope we never have to employ it.

But do not hesitate to do so if we do.

LimeyGeek on August 7, 2009 at 3:40 PM

but that is the fear these goons need to have.

Fighton03 on August 7, 2009 at 3:42 PM

We are sliding into communism fast. Enemies list and hot line, purple brownshirts, dictator Obama encouraging the crushing of dissent.

Arm yourselves and get ready. It’s closer than you think.

txsurveyor on August 7, 2009 at 3:42 PM

Krauthammer has some good solid suggestions for reforming the current health care system. It’s linked on top of HA. Tort reform is the single biggest thing that could be done. He is absolutley correct in that if a doc knows he will get his license yanked and not be able to practice, he will not be negligient (at least knowingly, I know they are human).

catlady on August 7, 2009 at 3:43 PM

This Obama Thugz guy obviously has the mental capacity of a shot glass.

ted c on August 7, 2009 at 3:40 PM

Speaking as an admirer (and regular user) of shot glasses, I’m offended!

I hope that Mr. Gladney sues the sh1t out of SEIU

Trafalgar on August 7, 2009 at 3:43 PM

The President of the United States says the protesters against his policies are illegitimate, and encourages his supporters to physically intimidate them to shut them up and get them out of the way. Within hours SEIU thugs disrupt several public events, resulting in intimidation, injuries, and arrests.

The sword of the state was drawn to shed the blood of the citizen on 6 AUG 09.

Ken Gladney and the “man in the green shirt” were the first casualties.

18-19 APR 1775
Lexington, MA

ted c on August 7, 2009 at 3:44 PM

Why is no Republican demanding impeachment of the Inciter-in-Chief?

drunyan8315 on August 7, 2009 at 3:44 PM

Personally, I would not arm myself with my concealed weapon for a rally, because that would give the left more fodder.

catlady on August 7, 2009 at 3:40 PM

That’s kinda the whole point of concealed carry….isn’t it? That nobody knows you’re armed?

I will be armed at all rallies simply because it is precisely the kind of dynamic that can trigger violent situations. There’s no nobility to be found in the morgue.

LimeyGeek on August 7, 2009 at 3:44 PM

Fighton03 on August 7, 2009 at 3:41 PM

A fanny pack with two full soda cans will stop a large man in his tracks with a well placed blow.

thomasaur on August 7, 2009 at 3:44 PM

I hope anyone who gave the order to go and do this type of stuff gets investigated as well. This is against the orderly society.

ted c on August 7, 2009 at 3:40 PM

Orders are never given for things like this. It’s just a free discussion and a “hey, did you know…” and a “It would be bad if…” thing.

Fighton03 on August 7, 2009 at 3:44 PM

Speaking as an admirer (and regular user) of shot glasses, I’m offended!

I hope that Mr. Gladney sues the sh1t out of SEIU

Trafalgar on August 7, 2009 at 3:43 PM

sorry dude. that was the best I could have come up with.

ditto on the SEIU, I think Mark Levin indicated he’ll pursue them.

ted c on August 7, 2009 at 3:45 PM

The first few seconds are fascinating-while you hear a guy saying “I don’t want to get involved at all” I’m watching that blond woman with the cigarette shouting one union goon down and what looks to be a middle aged woman getting between him and the victim.
Go girls!

CarolynM on August 7, 2009 at 3:45 PM

No one ever said union thugs were smart.

capitalist piglet on August 7, 2009 at 3:37 PM

Boy, that’s an understatement. You can look at them and see the problem. Bottomfeeders.

saiga on August 7, 2009 at 3:45 PM

Orders are never given for things like this. It’s just a free discussion and a “hey, did you know…” and a “It would be bad if…” thing.

Fighton03 on August 7, 2009 at 3:44 PM

That’s what everyone thought about COL Nathan R. Jessup—till the pressure cooker got turned up on him, and he wanted to answer the question.

ted c on August 7, 2009 at 3:46 PM

but that is the fear these goons need to have.

Fighton03 on August 7, 2009 at 3:42 PM

Indeed. Be quite clear and honest about it. If it comes down to it, any armd government agents will be considered legitimate hostile targets, and dealt with accordingly.

LimeyGeek on August 7, 2009 at 3:46 PM

Someone ordered this Code Red

ted c on August 7, 2009 at 3:46 PM

Thankfully, our side has more guns.

chromium on August 7, 2009 at 3:27 PM

Think so? Just wait until some hothead uses one at one of these events. This Congress will pass “emergency” gun confiscation legislation so fast we will not know what hit us. Don’t think it cannot happen – like Solzhenitsyn, who is so aptly being quoted in this thread, would say, we MUST think the unthinkable now, because it is upon us.

Can’t you see what is happening? They are marginalizing all opposition, planting disruptors, and trying to provoke violent reactions – then comes the REAL crackdown. This is how every dictatorship consolidates its power.

rockmom on August 7, 2009 at 3:47 PM

Krauthammer has some good solid suggestions for reforming the current health care system. It’s linked on top of HA. Tort reform is the single biggest thing that could be done. He is absolutley correct in that if a doc knows he will get his license yanked and not be able to practice, he will not be negligient (at least knowingly, I know they are human).

catlady on August 7, 2009 at 3:43 PM

This about POWER not Healthcare the refusal to accept that is foolish and dangerous.

thomasaur on August 7, 2009 at 3:47 PM

I will be armed at all rallies simply because it is precisely the kind of dynamic that can trigger violent situations. There’s no nobility to be found in the morgue.

LimeyGeek on August 7, 2009 at 3:44 PM

I a crowded situation like that, it’s just as likely that you will miss. Sorry, not trying to put down your marksmanship or anything, but targets move, your arm gets jostled, it’s dim lighting, etc.

There just as effective alternates for that kind of situation that won’t endanger bystanders.

Fighton03 on August 7, 2009 at 3:48 PM

Looks like a great time to get armed if your not already. I think that’s why that little loophole in the Constitution drives the Left nuts. Socialism always wants to take away the right to own firearms, and this is an example of why they don’t want you armed.

Hening on August 7, 2009 at 3:48 PM

Couldn’t find the Solzhenitsyn quote I wanted, but this one is good:

I hope that no one present will suspect me of offering my personal criticism of the Western system to present socialism as an alternative. Having experienced applied socialism in a country where the alternative has been realized, I certainly will not speak for it. The well-known Soviet mathematician Shafarevich, a member of the Soviet Academy of Science, has written a brilliant book under the title Socialism; it is a profound analysis showing that socialism of any type and shade leads to a total destruction of the human spirit and to a leveling of mankind into death.

BadgerHawk on August 7, 2009 at 3:49 PM

WE MUST RETAIN LIBERTY. DON’T LET GO OF IT.

We’ll maintain our Constitution via our Constitutional Rights only by vehemently exerting those unalienable rights.

NEVER go to a rally alone or get separated from your buddies. Bring your recording devices, and be careful returning to you cars. Stand up for your rights wisely, not fueling combat, yet never submitting to the Marxist Obatomy thugs.

You think playing nice with them keeps you safe? Even if you stay home and hide, they take pounds of your flesh. You lose an arm and a leg every time you give an inch. After two encounters, it’s off with your head.

maverick muse on August 7, 2009 at 3:50 PM

Can’t you see what is happening? They are marginalizing all opposition, planting disruptors, and trying to provoke violent reactions – then comes the REAL crackdown. This is how every dictatorship consolidates its power.

rockmom on August 7, 2009 at 3:47 PM

You have great insight. I always appreciate your posts.

txsurveyor on August 7, 2009 at 3:50 PM

That’s what everyone thought about COL Nathan R. Jessup—till the pressure cooker got turned up on him, and he wanted to answer the question.

ted c on August 7, 2009 at 3:46 PM

While that is a movie….I won’t argue against there being dumb crime bosses, lol.

Fighton03 on August 7, 2009 at 3:50 PM

will be armed at all rallies simply because it is precisely the kind of dynamic that can trigger violent situations. There’s no nobility to be found in the morgue.

LimeyGeek on August 7, 2009 at 3:44 PM

True no one knows except you that you are carrying, but I have seen more mishaps because most concealed weapons carriers truly have not had the training for close in confrontations. I want to take something like the Farnham course before I would feel confident to carry in an explosive situation.

But because I don’t want to pack my heat, should I not attend? No! There is safety in numbers, and other self defense tactics that can be utilised. Sometimes liberty means taking a risk, hopefully an educated and calculated one, but still there is a risk. It blows me away that attending a town hall should be viewed so aprehensively. I went to the Tea Party here in San Antonio and wandered around for eight hours. Great experience – wonder what it would be like now???

catlady on August 7, 2009 at 3:51 PM

If it comes down to it, any armd government agents will be considered legitimate hostile targets, and dealt with accordingly.

LimeyGeek on August 7, 2009 at 3:46 PM

Um, please don’t go there.

BadgerHawk on August 7, 2009 at 3:51 PM

What’s old is what’s new again – remember the lessons of the past.

Rebar on August 7, 2009 at 3:34 PM

Yeah…can’t wait for Article 58. /

Disturb the Universe on August 7, 2009 at 3:51 PM

Fighton03 on August 7, 2009 at 3:48 PM

I am not an idiot. I am well trained in CQC with a sidearm.

LimeyGeek on August 7, 2009 at 3:51 PM

Um, please don’t go there.

BadgerHawk on August 7, 2009 at 3:51 PM

Get over your squeamishness. It wont save you.

LimeyGeek on August 7, 2009 at 3:52 PM

One guy points at a thug and says, “You’re going to jail, buddy!” That’s the way it used to work, but we’ll see if this guy gets the same get out of jail card the Pennsylvania Black Panthers thugs got.

Alma on August 7, 2009 at 3:52 PM

We are sliding into communism fast. Enemies list and hot line, purple brownshirts, dictator Obama encouraging the crushing of dissent.

Arm yourselves and get ready. It’s closer than you think.

txsurveyor on August 7, 2009 at 3:42 PM

I fear you are right.

I never ever in my wildest dreams thought this would be possible in America. Never.

Well, I’m not going down without a fight. I’ve got kids and I’ll be damned if they are going to grow up in a socialist or communist country.

Niere on August 7, 2009 at 3:53 PM

Um, please don’t go there.

BadgerHawk on August 7, 2009 at 3:51 PM

I’m with you dude! We are not there yet, so let’s not drop off the edge until we absolutely have to…

catlady on August 7, 2009 at 3:54 PM

Fighton03 on August 7, 2009 at 3:48 PM

I am not an idiot. I am well trained in CQC with a sidearm.

LimeyGeek on August 7, 2009 at 3:51 PM

not calling you one.

Fighton03 on August 7, 2009 at 3:54 PM

You’d be better off taking shockers/tasers and mace. That’s what I’m taking if I go.

Sugarbuzz on August 7, 2009 at 3:54 PM

SEIU ? What does it mean?

CynicalOptimist on August 7, 2009 at 3:54 PM

Fighton03 on August 7, 2009 at 3:41 PM

The well-made, metal fine point pen is mightier than the sword.

Laura in Maryland on August 7, 2009 at 3:55 PM

One guy points at a thug and says, “You’re going to jail, buddy!” That’s the way it used to work, but we’ll see if this guy gets the same get out of jail card the Pennsylvania Black Panthers thugs got.

Alma on August 7, 2009 at 3:52 PM

great point. Me thinks you is probably right.

ted c on August 7, 2009 at 3:55 PM

catlady on August 7, 2009 at 3:51 PM

I agree with you.

Arming oneself is a personal decision, and your comfort level may vary. I was simply recommending the practice for pragmatic reasons.

LimeyGeek on August 7, 2009 at 3:55 PM

purple-shirted thugs will appear to crack heads and scare off the opposition.

Let them try . . .

I’m a 6’3″, 225 lb. Navy vet and if any of these little union goldbricking punks lays one of their greasy paws on me, it won’t be my head getting cracked.

I put my life on the line for my more than this against far more formidable opponents. They have no idea the kind of people they are messing with.

NoDonkey on August 7, 2009 at 3:55 PM

LimeyGeek on August 7, 2009 at 3:52 PM

I’m not squeamish, though I am in the NG and don’t want you shooting me ; ) .

The first time one of these town halls gets out of control and a conservative is arrested and found with a knife, or tries to do something to an officer, any ground gained will be gone instantly.

BadgerHawk on August 7, 2009 at 3:55 PM

Hotler had his Brown Shirts, Obama has his Blue Shirts,

Buford on August 7, 2009 at 3:56 PM

Er Hotler = Hitler

Buford on August 7, 2009 at 3:56 PM

…and I’ll be up late again tonight, so maybe I need to learn how to use that camera on my cellphone.

Laura in Maryland on August 7, 2009 at 3:56 PM

One guy points at a thug and says, “You’re going to jail, buddy!” That’s the way it used to work, but we’ll see if this guy gets the same get out of jail card the Pennsylvania Black Panthers thugs got.

Alma on August 7, 2009 at 3:52 PM

Then Kenneth Gladney takes the man to civil litigation and drain him financially. I’m sure SEIU will distance themselves from any criminal activities and a pro bono attorney would step forward for Gladney.

thomasaur on August 7, 2009 at 3:56 PM

You’d be better off taking shockers/tasers and mace. That’s what I’m taking if I go.

Sugarbuzz on August 7, 2009 at 3:54 PM

Walk with a cane perhaps? just for style.

Fighton03 on August 7, 2009 at 3:56 PM

Arm yourselves with the Declaration of Independence, the Constitution, the Bible and a whole lot of praying.

Those will get this Glorious Cause moving in the right direction.

ted c on August 7, 2009 at 3:57 PM

SEIU ? What does it mean?

CynicalOptimist on August 7, 2009 at 3:54 PM

Service Employees International Union

Trafalgar on August 7, 2009 at 3:57 PM

Again, the ballot box is our main source of fighting back.

We cannot forget in 2010 and 2012 and 2014 and 2016… you get the drift here.

If we overhelmingly vote against this current administration and set up our own groups to check against fraud, we can peacefully assert our rights. That requires effort on everyone’s part.

catlady on August 7, 2009 at 3:57 PM

SEIU ? What does it mean?

CynicalOptimist on August 7, 2009 at 3:57 PM

SEIU ? What does it mean?

CynicalOptimist on August 7, 2009 at 3:54 PM
Service Employees International Union

Trafalgar on August 7, 2009 at 3:57 PM

Thank you.

CynicalOptimist on August 7, 2009 at 3:57 PM

I see deliberate provocation aimed at triggering over-reaction which will bring the crackdown. Be smart. Don’t take the bait. Keep cool and keep the cameras running.

Kenosha Kid on August 7, 2009 at 3:58 PM

Couldn’t find the Solzhenitsyn quote I wanted

BadgerHawk on August 7, 2009 at 3:49 PM

Arrest! Need it be said that it is a breaking point in your life, a bolt of lightning which has scored a direct hit on you? That it is an unassimilable spiritual earthquake not every person can cope with, as a result of which people often slip into insanity?

The Universe has as many different centers as there are living beings in it. Each of us is a center of the Universe, and that Universe is shattered when they hiss at you: “You are under arrest.”

If you are arrested, can anything else remain unshattered by this cataclysm?

But the darkened mind is incapable of embracing these dis­placements in our universe, and both the most sophisticated and the veriest simpleton among us, drawing on all life’s experience,
can gasp out only: “Me? What for?”

And this is a question which, though repeated millions and
millions of times before, has yet to receive an answer.

Arrest is an instantaneous, shattering thrust, expulsion, somer­sault from one state into another.

http://www.goodreads.com/quotes/show/66484

Rebar on August 7, 2009 at 3:58 PM

The well-made, metal fine point pen is mightier than the sword.

Laura in Maryland on August 7, 2009 at 3:55 PM

and you can write a letter with it too!

Fighton03 on August 7, 2009 at 3:58 PM

this effort toward regaining our liberty must now, once again, be firmly held as something that requires eternal vigilance. We have let our guard down and the enemy is in the door and perched upon the White House.

someone let tyranny in… it wasn’t us.

but we’ve dealt with tyranny before..

ted c on August 7, 2009 at 3:59 PM

I hope to see all the bingo grannies, vets, car-pool moms, hard working American’s carted off to the pokie for voicing their concerns. Learn from the left folks, passive resistance served them well. Keep your powder dry.

Viva La Revolucion!

Laura in Maryland on August 7, 2009 at 3:59 PM

NoDonkey on August 7, 2009 at 3:55 PM

Ummm…. can I stand next to you at the next town hall meeting?? If you don’t knock their blocks off, I’ll neuter them… :)

catlady on August 7, 2009 at 3:59 PM

You’d be better off taking shockers/tasers and mace. That’s what I’m taking if I go.

Sugarbuzz on August 7, 2009 at 3:54 PM

I would normally agree, but in these ultra-litigious times, I’m not so sure.

Just to be clear – I’m not advocating the casual drawing of a weapon just because somebody is getting shirty, or even for hustle’n'bustle….but if somebody is being beaten to a pulp on the ground….

LimeyGeek on August 7, 2009 at 4:00 PM

The well-made, metal fine point pen is mightier than the sword.

Laura in Maryland on August 7, 2009 at 3:55 PM

Not if you can’t get any ink.

thomasaur on August 7, 2009 at 4:00 PM

and you can write a letter with it too!

Fighton03 on August 7, 2009 at 3:58 PM

Of course. That’s what I meant, silly.

*bats eyes innocently*

Laura in Maryland on August 7, 2009 at 4:01 PM

After the President himself talked about getting in people’s faces when they oppose his policies and setting up snitch lines at the White House, the only shocker in this video is that it took so long for townhalls to turn violent.

By the Left’s own standards Obama is PERSONALLY responsible for the violence.

Gird your loins people because I fear this is just the beginning.

TheBigOldDog on August 7, 2009 at 4:02 PM

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