Video: Dingell townhall infiltrated by well-dressed sophisticates, too

posted at 3:35 pm on August 7, 2009 by Ed Morrissey

Want a video definition of “clueless”? Watch John Dingell’s reaction to the massive outpouring of opposition to the ObamaCare bill he authored, which comes at the 2-minute mark. With not one but two SRO crowds at Dingell’s home-town meetings shouting “Kill the Bill,” what conclusion does Dingell draw? The bill is not terribly popular? It’s going to create a big problem for him unless he retires in 2010? Not exactly:

I keep looking around the halls on these videos to see those “well-dressed” imposters that Barbara Boxer insists keep infiltrating town halls of Democrats who back the nationalization of health care. I’ve yet to see a single tie or wing-tip shoe, but I certainly see a lot of people with some very good questions for ObamaCare advocates. Just before Dingell chalks up a room full of people chanting “Kill the Bill” to the efforts of a few infiltrators, one woman angrily asks Dingell who will pay for ObamaCare. “Will it come out of my paycheck?” she demands, and Dingell has no answer.

Hey, lady, Dingell wrote the bill. Don’t expect him to actually know what’s in it.

Dingell and Boxer can claim that all of this comes from some sort of odd phenomenon organized by a handful of powerful interests, but that doesn’t explain either the rapid fall in public support for ObamaCare, nor the decline in Obama’s approval numbers in general or on health care specifically. Americans would like to see some of the shortfalls in the system fixed, such as the difficulty in getting insured with pre-existing conditions and the lack of interstate competition for coverage plans, but they don’t want government running their health care. If Dingell and Boxer really believe their press, they’re in for a rude awakening in 2010.


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Connect the tank tops.

LOL

I’m sure they have the brooks brothers tag on them :-)

cmsinaz on August 7, 2009 at 3:37 PM

I can’t recall ever looking so forward to the political stories during the August recess. Those guys are protected when they are in DC. But when they have to face their electorate, they hear different talking points.

It’s not R vs. D. It’s what is best for America. Democrats in DC only care about R vs. D. Their constituents care about America.

ThackerAgency on August 7, 2009 at 3:37 PM

Dang, all those ‘mobsters’ without SEIU or ACORN T-shirts I just can’t tell who sent them. Musta been booosh.

At least we know the violent ones have colorful T’s on, mostly purple or red.

shooter on August 7, 2009 at 3:39 PM

The Hubris of the statement that He will do what HE wants, not what his constitents wants, is the whole problem.

The Washington types have forgoten who they work for… that they are answerable to US, not in control of us…. Especialy when it comes to the Unconstituional takeover of a large part of our economy.

Romeo13 on August 7, 2009 at 3:40 PM

He said he’s been in Congress for 50+ years. Then obviously he’s one of the people who help create this mess that Obama is now demanding to shut up and step aside.

p0s3r on August 7, 2009 at 3:40 PM

This whole thing and how it is playing out is utterly bizarre. NOBODY believes the R’s could orchestrate anything remotely this effective. But their only response is that the R’s are indeed behind the anger of people.

People are angry because someone is telling them to give them their money. How would Obama feel if I told him to give me his money because I was going to help him – or else.?

This government doesn’t care about freedom. It only cares about spending money it doesn’t have.

As I said, this is entertaining and amazing. It is sad that the MSM is so complicit though. What is happening is utterly obvious. D leadership is mimicking Baghdad Bob.

ThackerAgency on August 7, 2009 at 3:40 PM

50 years in Congress? Well, that’s too long.

ICBM on August 7, 2009 at 3:40 PM

You would assume if the evil Republicans were this good at organizing mobs, they would have had them turning out during last year’s election. But the Democrats don’t want to deal with the idea that this is actually a grass roots movement, because to do that means they have to admit they weren’t elected last year to pass all these big government programs.

jon1979 on August 7, 2009 at 3:41 PM

Time for retirement buddy

Conservative Voice on August 7, 2009 at 3:41 PM

All the people should show up at the next townhall meetings naked.

That would really confuse the libs classification system.

They would have to then rank the people by physical bodily attibutes.

THAT could get real interesting and make for some great headlines.

Yoop on August 7, 2009 at 3:42 PM

these lobbyists are mighty widespread.

rob verdi on August 7, 2009 at 3:42 PM

My friend, I’ve been in Congress for 50 years or more.

And there’s the problem.

BadgerHawk on August 7, 2009 at 3:42 PM

We may no know what’s good for us

Kini on August 7, 2009 at 3:43 PM

Make sure your pitchforks have the Union Made label on them.

bloviator on August 7, 2009 at 3:43 PM

Dingell wrote the bill

Please his staffers wrote the Bill, just as they pull him up off of the floor each morning and set him on the toliet.

Democrat politicians are all drunks, drug addicts. They are all semi-literates who can barely string together a coherent sentence.

The only thing Democrats are effective at is stealing from the American people. In all other endeavors, Democrats are utterly worthless.

NoDonkey on August 7, 2009 at 3:43 PM

I’ve been in congress for 50+ years.

Well there’s your problem, right there.

lorien1973 on August 7, 2009 at 3:43 PM

I wonder where this is going when things really get bad?

Hening on August 7, 2009 at 3:43 PM

Dingle WILL NEVER opt to be covered by the “public” option…

He would instantly be given a DNR.

singlemalt_18 on August 7, 2009 at 3:44 PM

My friend, I’ve been in Congress for 50 years or more.
And there’s the problem.

BadgerHawk on August 7, 2009 at 3:42 PM

Bingo!

Shock the Monkey on August 7, 2009 at 3:44 PM

Is that really John Dingell? I think it’s the crypt keeper form Tales Form The Crypt.

Mark1971 on August 7, 2009 at 3:45 PM

Go to this link…it will show you what may happen to our personal information is this disaster goes through…it is funny on the one hand and scary on the other.

Ltlgeneral64 on August 7, 2009 at 3:45 PM

50 years in congress? So your one of the people Obama doesn’t want to hear from right? You are the one’s who made this “mess” that Obama has to clean up right?

The silent majority is waking up. This is the crowd that Obama & the dems thought would never call them out on their Liberal blitzkrieg for socialization.

I never thought I would see the day that average Americans would stand up and be heard in these numbers.

portlandon on August 7, 2009 at 3:45 PM

50 years in Congress? Well, that’s too long.

ICBM on August 7, 2009 at 3:40 PM

Here’s a glaring example of why we need to demand TERM LIMITS!

Christian Conservative on August 7, 2009 at 3:45 PM

He knows what is best for us, it doesn’t matter what we want. We should just go to work and send them our money to spend as they see fit.

TXMomof3 on August 7, 2009 at 3:46 PM

If this was 2010 with the identical dynamics and issues at stake, I could envision many incumbents either retiring, or being sent packing. The question is, will a large enough percentage of the electorate still be awake and motivated a year from now? Let us hope so.

ICBM on August 7, 2009 at 3:46 PM

he doesn’t care what they say. He says he’s been in congress for 50 years (that’s the problem). Being in congress that long means he knows nothing of a personal health care story that didn’t have the government paying for everything for him.

They can’t really believe that all these people are insincere. It’s not possible for this many people to fake this much anger.

The contempt that these people hold is worse than monarchy. He said he didn’t care if people liked it or not, he was going to pass the bill anyway.

ThackerAgency on August 7, 2009 at 3:46 PM

50 years!!!

Can anyone here say “term limits”?

He is the poster child for them…

Ltlgeneral64 on August 7, 2009 at 3:47 PM

There is a local story here about a congressman who got a threat. Here was the threat. . .

“Have a town hall meeting or we will kill you”. So basically, the representative decided to cancel the town hall he had planned. Wouldn’t it be safer for him to HAVE the town hall?

He’s phoning in questions as well only to people that agree with him.

These politicians had better wake up before people give them an earful in DC instead of just in their local districts. They can carry pitchforks.

ThackerAgency on August 7, 2009 at 3:48 PM

What’s happening with these “protests” or disruptions of what’s supposed to be a civil debate is that the chattering class of the Republican party is distorting what this health care reform is all about in an attempt to scare everyday citizens.

And it’s working.

So now you have people storming these meetings and not letting anyone talk or debate, just chant things like “tyranny”.

The truth is, the reforms being debated will not affect the vast majority of citizens, and will be designed to lower costs for older and poor citizens. Now, people should be free to debate whether they will or not. But when you get people saying that we’re going to get government-run healthcare for the entire nation, it’s just not true. And if the public option doesn’t go through, there won’t even be a new government-run option from these reforms.

Those who say government is taking over healthcare in this country, will be make health decisions for us, etc… are cowards, because it’s not true, and deep down (in my opinion) they know that what’s being debated right now won’t seem all that bad to most Americans.

But keep on saying things like Nazis supported government-controlled health care and that no one is going to have any choice, cause those smears, lies and incitements may just allow you to derail a very sensible piece of legislation.

Tom_Shipley on August 7, 2009 at 3:48 PM

This tool has been in congress for 50 years or More ?
Poster boy for Term Limits!
No wonder Michigan is such a mess, God forbid I should ever have the misfortune of having to go there!

dhunter on August 7, 2009 at 3:48 PM

Dingle: “I’ve been in Congress for over 50 years.”

That about says it all, my friends.

Term Limits for these creeps! Send Pelosi back to Frisco. Let Obama start his second career as president of Kenya.

EMD on August 7, 2009 at 3:49 PM

So now, excercising our ‘right’ to free speech and demonstration is ‘infiltration’? If that is so the yes, I am an infiltrator to the core…

Ltlgeneral64 on August 7, 2009 at 3:50 PM

If I didn’t have a career, a mortgage, a family, and the bill for the bailout to pay for, I’d love to be right there with them screaming bloody murder too.

lawtwin on August 7, 2009 at 3:50 PM

“My friend, i want to tell you something..i’ve been in congress”….too long.

btw, i know detroit and at least 80% of the folks in that room are democrats.

DrW on August 7, 2009 at 3:50 PM

50 years in Congress? Well, that’s too long.

ICBM on August 7, 2009 at 3:40 PM
Here’s a glaring example of why we need to demand TERM LIMITS!

Christian Conservative on August 7, 2009 at 3:45 PM

Congressional term limits would require an amendment to the Constitution. Several years ago, Congress debated this issue. The overwhelming view from the critters, no surprise indeed, was that term limits would be unconstitutional. Certainly, they will not allow this issue to go forward. However, the voters have the power at election time to limit the number of terms of any one of them.

ICBM on August 7, 2009 at 3:50 PM

Those who say government is taking over healthcare in this country, will be make health decisions for us, etc… are cowards, because it’s not true

Tom_Shipley on August 7, 2009 at 3:48 PM

Yep. Obama doesn’t say that maybe a person should just get pills to block the pain instead of surgery to fix it. Nope. Never says it. Bill doesn’t even contain a committee that decides if treatments are cost effective or not. Nope. Not at all.

lorien1973 on August 7, 2009 at 3:50 PM

The truth is, the reforms being debated will not affect the vast majority of citizens, and will be designed to lower costs for older and poor citizens.

I pay into Medicare and SS every pay check. The government can’t guarantee I’m going to get those benefits that I’m already paying them for.

It will affect citizens by putting a liability on government that is without equal. Claims are a killer. But the government can just borrow more money.

The reforms that are being debated will do nothing to address the problems with health care. I don’t care what they ‘say’ the reforms will do. They can ‘say’ anything. But the reality is that the plan as it stands will raise costs across the board.

ThackerAgency on August 7, 2009 at 3:51 PM

The passion is great, and people getting involved is great, but these protesters are starting to become a liability.

What’s wrong with loudly booing when someone says something stupid, but otherwise acting calm and rational? They were effective when they would calmly ask questions that nobody else was asking and get stupid answers. Why do they have to shout-down any attempt to speak at all? They are accomplishing nothing at this point, and I’m beginning to actually agree with the “unhinged mob” characterization. They are handing the Democrats a potent weapon.

DaveS on August 7, 2009 at 3:51 PM

For a liberal democrat Dingell is pretty reasonable but he just can’t quite grasp it. A large majority of people in this country just don’t want it and the “hard ball” tactics coming out of the white house will make it impossible to pass. Union thugs and smearing ordinary citizens is not the way to win hearts and minds.

duff65 on August 7, 2009 at 3:52 PM

These idiot liberals have lost all control of their projection response. They are going to keep pushing this “manufactured dissent” line until this whole nation burns.

There has never been such a mindless waste as the liberals of America who have set this nation on a course of intentional suicide. It is historic and will be a cautionary tale for hundreds of years into the future. Unreal.

progressoverpeace on August 7, 2009 at 3:52 PM

I feel so comfortable knowing that a guy named Dingell is in charge up there writing bills for that man’s son and my daughters health care.

this is deadly serious.

ted c on August 7, 2009 at 3:52 PM

very sensible piece of legislation.

Tom_Shipley on August 7, 2009 at 3:48 PM

welcome to earth tom. what is the name of your home planet?

DrW on August 7, 2009 at 3:52 PM

He said he’s been in Congress for 50+ years

Based on his apparent knowledge of the American system, that equals about 6 months experience 120 times.

oldernwiser on August 7, 2009 at 3:53 PM

Speaking up due to being mad and scared as hell is “making trouble.”

Wow. Just wow.

RedNewEnglander on August 7, 2009 at 3:53 PM

I can’t recall ever looking so forward to the political stories during the August recess. Those guys are protected when they are in DC. But when they have to face their electorate, they hear different talking points.
ThackerAgency on August 7, 2009 at 3:37 PM

Yeah, except here in NC, I don’t see too many House members and Senators holding town halls (except McHenry). Check out the list here, it’s “No Town Hall Scheduled” ad infinitum. Or the co-op Tele-Town (Shuler). So my representative is using this “Summer District Work Period” to not allow me near him; how effective.

If anyone else has NC info, I would appreciate.

LastRick on August 7, 2009 at 3:54 PM


Tom_Shipley on August 7, 2009 at 3:48 PM

Tom, the only correct thing in your whole post was the ‘derail’ part…

other than that I wanted to let you know that your protologist called: He found your head…

Ltlgeneral64 on August 7, 2009 at 3:54 PM

Didn’t they name a berry after him?

Patrick S on August 7, 2009 at 3:54 PM

Yes Mr. Dingell you just got your bell rung.

thmcbb on August 7, 2009 at 3:54 PM

lorien1973 on August 7, 2009 at 3:50 PM
Shhhhhhh! Evidently Shipley has read the bill & knows better than us unwashed cretins…..Can’t ya tell by his line by line points as to what “Benefits” this bondoogle will create?”

Ladywolfnl on August 7, 2009 at 3:54 PM

Not only has Dingell been in Congress for 50 years, his wife works for Government Motors. GM has been among the biggest behind-the-scenes agitators for national health care for years, because it has been bankrupted by the high costs of the gold-plated health plan it guaranteed the UAW back in the 70s when it was flush. It wants to shove all those costs onto the taxpayer so it can start making money on cars again without inflicting any pain on the UAW.

John Dingell has a GIANT conflict of interest here, which almost nobody ever talks about.

rockmom on August 7, 2009 at 3:55 PM

Look at 2 seconds into the video – someone has a sign “Single Payer Yes We Can”
Heh, 0bama’s supporters admit it but he continues to lie “If you like your health plan, you can keep it.”

Brat on August 7, 2009 at 3:55 PM

DaveS on August 7, 2009 at 3:51 PM

It’s a vicious cycle.

People asked reasonable questions.

Got responses like “I don’t know. I haven’t read it, but I’m voting for it.”

More questions come. People who are asking reasonable questions get called names.

And they complain about it.

And -they- are the victims.

Interesting take. Beaten wife syndrome, much?

lorien1973 on August 7, 2009 at 3:55 PM

So Dungell’s been in Congress for over half a century? We have our new poster boy for term limits.

Speaking of which, if we in the grassroots movements help the GOP retake the House next year, we MUST make term limits part of their mandate. These career politicans are a big part of what’s ailing this government.

Doughboy on August 7, 2009 at 3:56 PM

All the people should show up at the next townhall meetings naked.

That would really confuse the libs classification system.

They would have to then rank the people by physical bodily attibutes.

THAT could get real interesting and make for some great headlines.

Yoop on August 7, 2009 at 3:42 PM

To expand on my own post re headlines:

Pelosi: “The plants all had bigger boobs than me. That means they were obviously paid Republicans.”

Reid: “I have never seen so many wrinkled butts in my life. They all look like my face. Plants. All plants!”

Obama: “I saw 6-packs better than mine. Only the Republicans could have hired that much beef and bused them in.”

Rahm: “What the hell!!! Republicans aren’t endowed like that. Tell the boys to put their purple shirts back on.”

Frank: “Hey!!! How many townhalls can I fit in per day?”

Yoop on August 7, 2009 at 3:56 PM

Seeing this outrage would give me hope if it made a difference in the representatives opinion.

Alas, dems like ding-dong are too damned ideological to listen to the people that put them in power.

therightscoop on August 7, 2009 at 3:56 PM

Brat on August 7, 2009 at 3:55 PM

The people will the hand written signs (complete with mis-spellings) are astroturfers. The people with the “single payer yes we can” signs that are mass produced are grass roots and spontaneous.

lorien1973 on August 7, 2009 at 3:57 PM

PASS THE BILL! PASS THE BILL!

(if you’re so gosh-darned sure it’s a good bill)

SouthernGent on August 7, 2009 at 3:57 PM

All “infiltrators.” Yeah, right.

What an arrogant old *self-censored*

WannabeAnglican on August 7, 2009 at 3:57 PM

Dingellberry is so old he owes Jesus a quarter.

txag92 on August 7, 2009 at 3:57 PM

The only thing that Dingell and other democrats will understand is the unemployment line. Michigan vote him out!!

suzyk on August 7, 2009 at 3:57 PM

Yoop on August 7, 2009 at 3:42 PM

Is ball inflation optional?

lorien1973 on August 7, 2009 at 3:57 PM

What’s happening with these “protests” or disruptions of what’s supposed to be a civil debate [bla bla bla bla]

Tom_Shipley on August 7, 2009 at 3:48 PM

Liberals talking about “civil debate”. What a friggin’ laugh. You people have never engaged in civil debate in your lives. The best you get is to cry “racist” not quite at the top of your lungs. Or you get all crazy like your Precedent (“My administration is the only thing standing between you and the pitchforks”).

You people are despicable, lying scumbags and everyone knows it. Your mask is off and you are standing in public for all to see. And they see.

Go ahead. Try and shove some more un-American legislation through without letting anyone see it. Try threatening Americans some more – another Soviet-style snitch line would help you all out. That’s the way. Keep it up.

progressoverpeace on August 7, 2009 at 3:58 PM

My friend, I’ve been in Congress for 50 years or more.

And there’s the problem.

BadgerHawk on August 7, 2009 at 3:42 PM

No term limits is the very root of ALL of our problems

blatantblue on August 7, 2009 at 3:59 PM

Those who say government is taking over healthcare in this country, will be make health decisions for us, etc… are cowards, because it’s not true, and deep down (in my opinion) they know that what’s being debated right now won’t seem all that bad to most Americans.

Inane nonsense.

Once they ram this through, all bets are off. Health care is theirs and we can debate each line of this unreadable Bill, but we all know, once the feds own health care, they can do what they want.

Look at what passes for public “education” in this country. We are forced to pay high taxes for schools Democrat politicians like Barack Obama, refuse to send their kids to, because they suck.

Democrats use every excuse in the book to defend our overfunded, underperforming public schools, but why even do it? We’re forced to pay for them, whether or not we want our kids to go there.

It will be the same for fed health care. We can bitch and complain, but we’ll all get stuck paying for the suck.

Your Democrat Party is the enemy of this country and its people, there is no way around it.

NoDonkey on August 7, 2009 at 4:00 PM

http://aclu.org/pizza/images/screen.swf

Ltlgeneral64 on August 7, 2009 at 3:46 PM

That was awesome.

RushBaby on August 7, 2009 at 4:00 PM

He really thinks he is a representative of the people but then says he always went it alone and did the right thing for those people. I don’t think he can hear too good or something. He seems to not understand what representative means.

SP on August 7, 2009 at 4:01 PM

Tom_Shipley on August 7, 2009 at 3:48 PM

Not just a Troll Alert here: a Totally Clueless Troll Alert

Talking Point Tom……

Janos Hunyadi on August 7, 2009 at 4:01 PM

Those who say government is taking over healthcare in this country, will be make health decisions for us, etc… are cowards
Tom_Shipley on August 7, 2009 at 3:48 PM

Mostly your postings do not deserve comment but, how the hell to you come to that conclusion? Or do you just get off on calling people names when you can hide behind your keyboard?

oldernwiser on August 7, 2009 at 4:01 PM

No term limits is the very root of ALL of our problems

blatantblue on August 7, 2009 at 3:59 PM

+100

cmsinaz on August 7, 2009 at 4:01 PM

Hey, lady, Dingell wrote the bill. Don’t expect him to actually know what’s in it.

You’ve outdone yourself here, Ed.

+1000

bluelightbrigade on August 7, 2009 at 4:01 PM

Hate to say this, but Dingell at least had the stones to face a large crowd, unlike a lot of his ilk.

guntotinglibertarian on August 7, 2009 at 4:01 PM

But keep on saying things like Nazis supported government-controlled health care and that no one is going to have any choice, cause those smears, lies and incitements may just allow you to derail a very sensible piece of legislation.

Tom_Shipley on August 7, 2009 at 3:48 PM

The only high level individuals casually tossing around Nazi references are on the left, and ‘sensisble’ isn’t the first word I’d use to describe this bill.

BadgerHawk on August 7, 2009 at 4:03 PM

These people need to calm down…..The right side is winning the debate, but not if these people keep acting ridiculous.

therightwinger on August 7, 2009 at 4:03 PM

talk@whitehouse.gov
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White House Communications Agency
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To meet this challenge, WHCA is committed to recruiting the best and the brightest. WHCA members come from all Services, with varied levels of experience and multiple specialties.
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My point? Obama is using the military to spy on private American citizens.
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This is illegal.

crash72 on August 7, 2009 at 4:03 PM

Congressman Berry Dingell needs to step down.

Wade on August 7, 2009 at 4:03 PM

All the people should show up at the next townhall meetings naked.

Mass nudity is never pretty. I’m not one for over-regulation, but I’m thankful there is some regulation on nudity. I’m selfish about it, too. I should be the one deciding who’s going to be naked.

No offense to the frothing mobs at these town hall meetings, but I haven’t seen any of them that I’d want to see nude.

Ampleforth on August 7, 2009 at 4:04 PM

The truth is, the reforms being debated will not affect the vast majority of citizens, and will be designed to lower costs for older and poor citizens. Now, people should be free to debate whether they will or not. But when you get people saying that we’re going to get government-run healthcare for the entire nation, it’s just not true. And if the public option doesn’t go through, there won’t even be a new government-run option from these reforms.

Those who say government is taking over healthcare in this country, will be make health decisions for us, etc… are cowards, because it’s not true, and deep down (in my opinion) they know that what’s being debated right now won’t seem all that bad to most Americans.

But keep on saying things like Nazis supported government-controlled health care and that no one is going to have any choice, cause those smears, lies and incitements may just allow you to derail a very sensible piece of legislation.

Tom_Shipley on August 7, 2009 at 3:48 PM

I’m very interested in the exact sections of H.R. 3200 that will actually lower costs for poor and older citizens. Perhaps you can enlighten us since you seem so familiar with the actual language of the bill.

You do know, don’t you, that once the government orders private businesses to sell “insurance” to all comers and forbids them from pricing this “insurance” according to the risk of the policyholder, it really isn’t “insurance” anymore at all? Do you actually believe that the cost of a private health insurance policy will possibly go DOWN after insurers are forced to take anyone who applies? Are you a healthy person, and if so, are you happily going to pay 30% more for your insurance so that people who smoke and drink and have terrible diets can be covered at the same price?

And what do you think about a plan that exempts 5 million government employees and allows them to keep their existing insurance? Is this “sensible”?

rockmom on August 7, 2009 at 4:04 PM

Dingell has been in Congress for 50 years. How is Michigan faring from his efforts?

hawksruleva on August 7, 2009 at 4:04 PM

50 years. Allow us to end it at 51.

journeyscarab on August 7, 2009 at 4:04 PM

I’ve been in congress for 50+ years.

Well there’s your problem, right there.

lorien1973 on August 7, 2009 at 3:43 PM

++++

That was my immediate thought as well.

gregbert on August 7, 2009 at 4:04 PM

douchebaggery at its best

these people can’t believe that the “little people” don’t want to be saved

we want to be left alone to live our lives, TOOLS!

sandlin71 on August 7, 2009 at 4:04 PM

That’s pretty low putting a guy in a wheelchair pretending to be sick. Will these racist, fascist Repugnicans stop at nothing? Have they no shame?

/sarc

Dr. ZhivBlago on August 7, 2009 at 4:06 PM

Fifty years or more? That’s part of the problem. It’s almost as if these congresscritters are being threatened or blackmailed into passing this crap. There only response is that the townhalls are being infiltrated????? Have they been exposed to the pods?
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0049366/

Are we next?

bloggless on August 7, 2009 at 4:06 PM

Tom_Shipley on August 7, 2009 at 3:48 PM

Have you read this bill? Evidently not. Go troll somewhere else.

catlady on August 7, 2009 at 4:07 PM

Listening to these people yammer on about how these town halls have been infiltrated or whatever, reminds me of the mullahs and the Chicoms and the Soviets talking about hooligans or infidels or reactionaries. Same difference.

Terrye on August 7, 2009 at 4:07 PM

This representative is a poster child for term limits AND the end of life planning checklist.

catlady on August 7, 2009 at 4:08 PM

That looked like the ghost of Letterman future. Eeeew!

Laura in Maryland on August 7, 2009 at 4:08 PM

Seriously, all of them need to be voted out!

HadithHarry on August 7, 2009 at 4:08 PM

Looking at all these politicians makes me want to get some end of life counseling.

blatantblue on August 7, 2009 at 4:09 PM

DINGELL – BERRY…

he correctly stated the problem towards the end.

“i’ve been in congress nearly 50 years”

career politicians are the problem.

poppieseeds on August 7, 2009 at 4:10 PM

Tom, i mean rahm, go find another group of people who will allow you to blow smoke up their a$$es

sandlin71 on August 7, 2009 at 4:10 PM

hawksruleva on August 7, 2009 at 4:04 PM

Michigan is a total craphole due to the circus clown incompetence and thieving corruption of Democrat at every level of government – local, state and national.

Are they ever held accountable?

Detroit is an utter disaster area, despite all levels of government sinking billions into that craphole. All “administered” (actually stolen) by absolutely worthless Democrats.

If we had justice in this country, the vast majority of Democrat politicians would be imprisoned for corruption or criminal negligence and Michigan Democrats lead the pack, equalled only by Illinois Democrats.

NoDonkey on August 7, 2009 at 4:10 PM

Infiltrated???? It looked more like a meeting of the Matlock fan club “where’s our free pudding?”

Dems are bigger idiots than I thought. Republicans could never have organized this. Steele couldn’t find his keister with both hands, a map, and a flashlight.

Laura in Maryland on August 7, 2009 at 4:10 PM

What a clueless (at best), lying bastard of a congressman. Infiltrated??? Time to vote the aristocrats out.

Princeps on August 7, 2009 at 4:11 PM

Tom:

That is not true. This bill is a disaster. I think that by the time all is said and done Obama might just end up signing some watered down bill to save face..the truth is the great orator has not explained the bill, does not even know what is in it himself…in fact there are several bills floating around out there and there is no way to be sure exactly what it even is.

Obama failed to craft some half way decent legislation that people could understand and support. It was his failure that created this debacle.

Terrye on August 7, 2009 at 4:12 PM

That father is probably right. Under the Obamacare what value will a 30 something year old c. palsy bring? Cheaper to Reaper.

bloggless on August 7, 2009 at 4:12 PM

The RNC couldn’t organize a game of solitaire.

Laura in Maryland on August 7, 2009 at 4:12 PM

All this hate because some people think they have a right to someone else’s labor.

lorien1973 on August 7, 2009 at 4:12 PM

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