Taliban leader Baitullah Mehsud dead? Update: Yep, says second in command

posted at 12:22 pm on August 7, 2009 by Ed Morrissey

Western news agencies have had a tough time confirming whether Pakistani Taliban leader Baitullah Mehsud survived a missile attack aimed at decapitating Tashkar-i-Taliban, one of the worst of the radical Islamist groups in the Af-Pak theater.   At first, the intel coming from the area indicated that Mehsud had reached room temperature.  American intelligence then threw some cold water on the reports, indicating that the drone-launched missile may have hit Mehsud’s second wife and her father, just missing Mehsud.  Now, the BBC says its sources indicate that the TiT may have begun casting lots to choose Mehsud’s successor:

There are growing indications that Pakistan’s most wanted man, Taliban leader Baitullah Mehsud, has been killed by a US missile.

A Mehsud aide reportedly confirmed that he had died when a drone attacked the house where he was staying. …

Taliban leaders have gathered in South Waziristan to choose a successor, local sources have told the BBC.

People living close to the scene of the missile attack in South Waziristan told the BBC Baitullah Mehsud had been killed along with his wife early on Wednesday.

The remoteness of the location is contributing to the delay in establishing the facts, the BBC’s Orla Guerin reports from Islamabad.

Even the US has reconsidered its skepticism, according to the BBC.  One source they descibe as a “senior US official” now says the indications show that we got Mehsud in the attack.  That source was undeniably delighted by the news, noting the NATO blood on Meshud’s hands as well as his connections to al-Qaeda.

Who gets to take Mehsud’s place as the bulls-eye for NATO forces now?  The BBC lists three potential candidates, including one of Mehsud’s family and Maulana Azmatullah.  None of them are well-known by Westerners, but all are high-ranking leaders in the Pakistani Taliban.  Mehsud’s death would strike a blow at TiT, but not one that would be fatal to the network.  It would, however, disrupt their communications with al-Qaeda and introduce the risk of infighting as various factions jockey for power.

If the BBC is correct at Mehsud has reached room temperature, then it’s a victory for NATO.   It’s not the end of the war, but it’s a step closer to victory.

Update (AP): Two Taliban aides tell the NYT that Mehsud has indeed gone to meet Allah, blown to pieces by a drone missile while receiving treatment for diabetes at his father-in-law’s house. I e-mailed Roggio to see if he was sticking by his sources yesterday who claimed Mehsud survived the attack and he said nope — not after top lieutenant Faqir Muhammad went on record to say he’s dead.

Pakistan’s Taliban leader Baitullah Mehsud – who had a £3m bounty on his head – is dead, his second-in-command has told Sky News.

Molvi Faqir Muhammad confirmed the death after widespread speculation over the militant group chief’s demise in a US missile strike on Wednesday…

An intelligence officer in South Waziristan said earlier that a funeral for Mehsud had already taken place.

“Baitullah is no more with us,” another Taliban jihadi tells WaPo; see Roggio’s new post for background on the likely successors, all of whom are just as nasty — but perhaps not as smart — as Mehsud. This is easily the biggest score since Bush knocked out AQ number three Abu Laith al-Libi last year, and maybe even bigger than that. Your must-read of the day is this excellent Newsweek piece explaining what a terrible blow losing Mehsud is to Al Qaeda.

But the biggest loser of all may be Osama bin Laden’s Al Qaeda. For nearly eight years, it had depended on Mehsud, his close allies, and other sympathetic tribals to sustain and protect it in South Waziristan after its previous host and defender, Mullah Mohammad Omar, was chased from Afghanistan by American bombs in late 2001. With Mehsud gone, Al Qaeda could be in trouble. As one Afghan Taliban intelligence officer who had met Mehsud many times told Newsweek, “Mehsud’s death means the tent sheltering Al Qaeda has collapsed.” “Without a doubt he was Al Qaeda’s number one guy in Pakistan,” adds Mahmood Shah, a retired Pakistani Army brigadier who is a former chief of the Federally Administered Tribal Area, or FATA, Mehsud’s base…

While both Mehsud and bin Laden have fed off of each other, Al Qaeda has been much more dependent on Mehsud for its own strength and survival. As a result, Al Qaeda must be feeling its greatest angst ever since they fled Afghanistan. Al Qaeda had come to trust Mehsud completely. Having cut his teeth fighting for Mullah Omar’s forces in the late 1990s, when the Taliban battled the Northern Alliance, he befriended Al Qaeda operatives. After the U.S. bombing campaign began, Mehsud, who was not then an important tribal leader, took Al Qaeda under his wing, offering them protection. Al Qaeda reciprocated by helping to build Mehsud up as a military force…

In an attempt to put Mehsud behind them and continue the jihad, his top commanders will meet in South Waziristan’s Spin Raghzi area this week to choose a new tribal leader, according to one of the participants. Whoever they pick, Al Qaeda is in trouble: none of the other tribal leaders commands the clout, coupled with a commitment to the group, to offer it the blanket protection and support that Mehsud did…

What’s more, any disunity affords Islamabad the chance to launch a much-advertized military offensive into South Waziristan. Until now, the army had held off, being preoccupied by Mehsud-allied forces in the Swat valley. But if cracks appear, the army could capitalize on the region’s new vulnerability. Nasir and Bahadur, for example, could decide that with Baitullah dead, they’d rather revive moribund peace treaties with the government. If so, Al Qaeda fighters would have no defense against Pakistani forces.

It’s hard to drum up warm and fuzzy feelings for The One this week of all weeks, but he deserves major credit for pressing on with the drone strikes while people as esteemed as Petraeus deputy David Kilcullen have been arguing against them. He made the right call, and given leftist orthodoxy that killing terrorists “only breeds more terrorists,” it can’t have been easy. Well done.

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Sweet! Good shooting, boys.

Pablo on August 7, 2009 at 12:25 PM

Your must-read of the day is this excellent Newsweek piece

3 words I never thought I’d see together. Terrific news, though.

BadgerHawk on August 7, 2009 at 12:27 PM

Awww, now I’m going to feel bad all day. /sarc

We should start a pool on how long it takes the UN to brand a Predator strike as a war crime.

Seriously, props to Obama for not being a complete idiot when it comes to Predator strikes.

Realist on August 7, 2009 at 12:28 PM

YES!

WisCon on August 7, 2009 at 12:29 PM

Going through his pockets and looking for loose change.

Any gold teeth?

Boxy_Brown on August 7, 2009 at 12:29 PM

Rot slowly in Hell, you murdering scum

….and have a nice day

Janos Hunyadi on August 7, 2009 at 12:30 PM

Teeth, hair and eyeballs.

Pelayo on August 7, 2009 at 12:32 PM

Yes, Obama deserves credit for doing the things that the president is supposed to do. So, good job on that whole letting us kill people who want to kill us thing.

myrenovations on August 7, 2009 at 12:36 PM

Two Taliban aides tell the NYT that Mehsud has indeed gone to meet Allah

In the deepest pits of hell…

OmahaConservative on August 7, 2009 at 12:36 PM

will he still get his 72 virgins?

cmsinaz on August 7, 2009 at 12:37 PM

I’m sure they built a special place in Hell just for him.

Enjoy your dog turd and bacon sandwich!

LincolntheHun on August 7, 2009 at 12:38 PM

X-ed out DMF, outfugginstanding.

NoDonkey on August 7, 2009 at 12:38 PM

Rot slowly in Hell, you murdering scum

….and have a nice day

Janos Hunyadi on August 7, 2009 at 12:30 PM

For once I agree with the stupid, hag troll Janos.

crr6 on August 7, 2009 at 12:38 PM

GOOOAAALLLL!

Cruel and befitting punishment. Must be one of those NY flyover policies Obama knew nothing of – or at least that will be the story when the code pinkers come out of the woodwork, right? Oh wait, they’re too busy protesting protesters at Town Halls.

gopmom on August 7, 2009 at 12:41 PM

Alhamdilillah!

ma’salaam, BIATCH!

blatantblue on August 7, 2009 at 12:43 PM

IF only we can combat the libtards in their quest to socialize this nation.
God Bless our armed forces. whooo waaaa

hawkman on August 7, 2009 at 12:44 PM

For once I agree with the stupid, hag troll Janos.

crr6 on August 7, 2009 at 12:38 PM

You should write children’s books.

Chuck Schick on August 7, 2009 at 12:45 PM

this is a really good time to pick some of these guys off. They are probably more careless with a change of leadership. They need to really hit hard and fast.

tomas on August 7, 2009 at 12:45 PM

Mazal Tov

saus on August 7, 2009 at 12:48 PM

I could never be a “journalist”. If I were to ever get an interview with a member of the Taliban I would be texting coordinates.

Cindy Munford on August 7, 2009 at 12:48 PM

Obama is scrambling to apologize.

bayview on August 7, 2009 at 12:49 PM

If the BBC is correct at Mehsud has reached room temperature, then it’s a victory for NATO.

Good grief. Ed Morrissey is so determined not to give Obama any credit that he cant even say that this was a victory for America, it has to be a victory for NATO.

This is a rare case where AP (in the update) is at least a little more fair than Morrissey. If this happened while Bush was president, there would be all kinds of praise heaped upon him. Let’s be consistent, shall we?

orange on August 7, 2009 at 12:50 PM

There seems to be better intelligence behind the strikes. This is a big result if confirmed. So is the news today from Indonesia on Top.

lexhamfox on August 7, 2009 at 12:51 PM

Did he drop any good loot?

rollthedice on August 7, 2009 at 12:52 PM

If we know who is on the likely successor list, why do we not save them the trouble of deciding by blowing the lot up?

OldEnglish on August 7, 2009 at 12:55 PM

Find them and kill them…then there will be peace…

I wonder if the scum bag had time to say ‘oh sh@t’…

areseaoh on August 7, 2009 at 12:56 PM

Good grief. Ed Morrissey is so determined not to give Obama any credit that he cant even say that this was a victory for America, it has to be a victory for NATO.

This is a rare case where AP (in the update) is at least a little more fair than Morrissey. If this happened while Bush was president, there would be all kinds of praise heaped upon him. Let’s be consistent, shall we?

orange on August 7, 2009 at 12:50 PM

Good grief, indeed. Ed did credit Obama:

It’s hard to drum up warm and fuzzy feelings for The One this week of all weeks, but he deserves major credit for pressing on with the drone strikes while people as esteemed as Petraeus deputy David Kilcullen have been arguing against them. He made the right call, and given leftist orthodoxy that killing terrorists “only breeds more terrorists,” it can’t have been easy. Well done.

ChrisB on August 7, 2009 at 12:59 PM

Well done, indeed.

ladyingray on August 7, 2009 at 1:00 PM

According to Obama, there are so many more terrorists here in America attacking town halls.

faraway on August 7, 2009 at 1:00 PM

Homer says: WOO HOO!

~(_:(])

The Race Card on August 7, 2009 at 1:00 PM

I’m more frightened of the U.S. government right now than the Taliban.

The Taliban are far away and can’t strip us of our Constitutional rights or bully us into submission.

But congrats to our troops nonetheless.

jazz_piano on August 7, 2009 at 1:01 PM

I would love to hear the conversation between him, Obama, and Pelosi in hell.

SouthernGent on August 7, 2009 at 1:02 PM

This is a rare case where AP (in the update) is at least a little more fair than Morrissey. If this happened while Bush was president, there would be all kinds of praise heaped upon him. Let’s be consistent, shall we?

orange on August 7, 2009 at 12:50 PM

Well then, I hope you can handle the truth. ‘

The atrocities of 9/11/01 are largely the fault of the Clinton administration in their attitudes toward terrorism, laws concerning the sharing of intelligence information between government agencies, and general “we don’t give a damn” attitude. Clinton was offered OBL by the Yemenis but declined the offer. The result of that bad stewardship cost 3,000 Americans their lives almost eight years ago.

The Bush administration had to fight the war on terror and the war in Iraq almost entirely as a partisan effort since Democrats fought against the troops every step of the way. Denying them the equipment they needed, calling them murderers, telling crowds of students they needed to stay in school so they didn’t end up in the Army.

So now that the filthy liar is in office and has largely left the Bush DOD organization in place, don’t for one minute suggest that the rat bastard traitor deserves unquestioned praise when a drone happens to get a lucky shot.

That is the truth.

highhopes on August 7, 2009 at 1:04 PM

According to Obama, there are so many more terrorists here in America attacking town halls.

faraway on August 7, 2009 at 1:00 PM

According to Steven Pearlstein, so are the opponents of the Congressional health care bills.

ChrisB on August 7, 2009 at 1:05 PM

I’m more frightened of the U.S. government right now than the Taliban.

The Taliban are far away and can’t strip us of our Constitutional rights or bully us into submission.

But congrats to our troops nonetheless.

jazz_piano on August 7, 2009 at 1:01 PM

I was thinking about this when I saw the thugs the Democrats are placing outside town hall meetings. The filthy liar is essentially using the same tactics Iran used to quell dissent of their dictatorship.

highhopes on August 7, 2009 at 1:06 PM

I was thinking about this when I saw the thugs the Democrats are placing outside town hall meetings. The filthy liar is essentially using the same tactics Iran used to quell dissent of their dictatorship.

highhopes on August 7, 2009 at 1:06 PM

I just hope we don’t have our own Neda.

ChrisB on August 7, 2009 at 1:08 PM

A good terrorist.

Johan Klaus on August 7, 2009 at 1:09 PM

The Left certainly has a way with words.

Try to protest during a town hall meeting, and you’re a ‘political terrorist.’

Just like Palestinians who blow themselves up to murder Israelis are ‘freedom fighters.’

jazz_piano on August 7, 2009 at 1:14 PM

crr6 on August 7, 2009 at 12:38 PM

the Fat Girl crr6 is the first of three trolls on this thread. Why is a dead terrorist such a Troll Magnet?

Janos Hunyadi on August 7, 2009 at 1:15 PM

Worms in Pakistan double overnight. The U.N. HRC is investigating.

Limerick on August 7, 2009 at 1:15 PM

Obama, the stopped clock POTUS.

kirkill on August 7, 2009 at 1:15 PM

A day of mourning for the TOTUS snitch monger. However, the most beautiful sound in the world (Friday call to prayer) will soothe his grief.

Western_Civ on August 7, 2009 at 1:30 PM

I’m sure Obama will declare the use of predator drones inhumane and attempt to ban them, they’re killing way too many of his brethren, just like Gitmo was piling up a few too many of his buddies…had to put a stop to that!

Spiritk9 on August 7, 2009 at 1:38 PM

Taliban leaders have gathered in South Waziristan to choose a successor, local sources have told the BBC.

A target rich environment…

dogsoldier on August 7, 2009 at 2:00 PM

Mr. Terrorist, meet Mr. Hellfire.

Can you bring a mop for us?

Pelayo on August 7, 2009 at 2:01 PM

Baitullah Mehsud was one of the more competent individuals in the theater for Taliban in Pakistan and al Qaeda. The Mehsud brothers were both horrific, but Baitullah had the larger picture of nuclear devices on his mind throughout the last few years doing his best to get AQ Khan back into circulation, which happened some months ago. He was a focal point of the creation of the cross-organizational Shadow Army, which is one of the first major pushes to unite multiple terrorist groups in Pakistan under a single banner.

Unfortunately a tactical achievement must have strategy behind it. Without that we are but marking time.

ajacksonian on August 7, 2009 at 2:55 PM

Good grief. Ed Morrissey is so determined not to give Obama any credit that he cant even say that this was a victory for America, it has to be a victory for NATO.

orange on August 7, 2009 at 12:50 PM

I don’t recall you college kids claiming Bush’s Predator strikes were a victory for America.

Del Dolemonte on August 7, 2009 at 2:57 PM

Pakistan’s Taliban leader Baitullah Mehsud – who had a £3m bounty on his head – is dead, his second-in-command has told Sky News.

So, does the US get the 3 mil and can we apply it to our debt?

Sponge on August 7, 2009 at 3:23 PM

Abandon all hope ye who enter here….

YoungAmerican on August 7, 2009 at 3:37 PM

Now would probably be a good time to dig up those old HotAir threads when Obama was campaigning in support of strikes within Pakistan and his Republican opponents (and their drones) chastised him.

Nonfactor on August 7, 2009 at 3:46 PM

Nonfactor on August 7, 2009 at 3:46 PM

Get it straight. It was the left who was revolted by the predator strikes.

Johan Klaus on August 7, 2009 at 4:25 PM

Johan Klaus on August 7, 2009 at 4:25 PM

Just like MLK was a Republican, right?

Nonfactor on August 7, 2009 at 5:53 PM

Good grief, indeed. Ed did credit Obama:

ChrisB on August 7, 2009 at 12:59 PM

That was AllahPundit giving credit to Obama in the update, as orange mentioned.

I don’t recall you college kids claiming Bush’s Predator strikes were a victory for America.

Del Dolemonte on August 7, 2009 at 2:57 PM

This is a classic and ridiculous response. Side A is accused of hypocrisy, and Side B counters by accusing Side A of *also* being hypocrites. So do you agree that Ed was inconsistent in giving praise here? Did orange actually criticize Bush’s Predator strikes? Even if s/he did, would that actually diminish Ed’s inconsistency?

tneloms on August 7, 2009 at 6:14 PM

This thread is hilarious.

Nonfactor on August 7, 2009 at 6:16 PM

If Obama was serious, he would have already had a deck of cards produced for Taliban/Alqeada Head Thug Nuts, remember we could keep track with Iraq with Saddam’s deck of henchmen er and henchwomen. Someone needs to tell THE ONE, it’s a morale booster. And Then Ed and Allah can use them as graphics up top….win – win.

Dr Evil on August 7, 2009 at 6:33 PM

Dr Evil on August 7, 2009 at 6:33 PM

Because nothing says serious like a deck of playing cards.

Nonfactor on August 8, 2009 at 12:00 AM