White House to Dems on town halls: “If you get hit, we will punch back twice as hard”

posted at 6:39 pm on August 6, 2009 by Allahpundit

Let me remind you again: They can pass any bill they want any time they want. Conservatives can scream their heads off at these things and there’s not an ounce of good it’ll do if Democrats are united. This whole partisan “war” Obama and Axelrod have concocted is kabuki theater against an enemy they’ve already (momentarily) defeated; it’s the Blue Dogs’ fear that they’ll be thrown out of office if they vote for this travesty that’s put the left in the predicament they’re in. The cowardice they’re showing in not wanting to face their constituents is actually obscuring the deeper cowardice of the the party stalling on a landmark bill they finally have the numbers to pass for no better reason than that doing so will jeopardize their hold on power next year. They want ObamaCare and they want their permanent majority, and if the only way they can get both is by calling conservatives Nazis then that’s what they’re a-gonna do.

Top White House aides gave Senate Democrats a recess battle plan on Thursday, arming the lawmakers with tips for avoiding disastrous town hall meetings while showing them polling on popular aspects of the reform effort…

They showed video clips of the confrontational town halls that have dominated the media coverage, and told senators to do more prep work than usual for their public meetings by making sure their own supporters turn out, senators and aides said.

And they screened TV ads and reviewed the various campaigns by critics of the Democratic plan.

“If you get hit, we will punch back twice as hard,” Messina said, according to an official who attended the meeting…

“They are just helping us understand the fringe that is trying to mess up our meetings,” said Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.).

What does Reid mean by “fringe”? It’s come to this:

Instead of appearing in person, where “extremists” would have “the chance to shout and make YouTube videos,” Baird said Wednesday, he’s holding what he calls “telephone town halls” instead.

Baird said he’s using the new system because he fears his political opponents may be planning “an ambush” to disrupt his meetings, using methods Baird compared to Nazism.

“What we’re seeing right now is close to Brown Shirt tactics,” Baird, D-Vancouver, said in a phone interview. “I mean that very seriously.”…

Pam Benson of Larch Mountain, 62, said she realizes Baird disagrees with her on health care reform…

“He’s supposed to be our representative,” said Benson, a purchasing manager for Portland Cascade Architecture and Engineering in Portland. “He’s supposed to listen to us, whether he’s on our side or not.”…

“We are not nut cases that disagree with this issue,” she said. “There are a lot of very well-informed people that are against this health care thing.”

Luckily she won’t have a chance to face down Baird and then be “punched back twice as hard.” Exit quotation: “Despite the legitimacy of the public’s concern, demonizing democracy has become pretty common these days for the left… By dismissing the anger of conservatives, moderates, libertarians, conservative democrats and independents the administration looks out of touch and appallingly arrogant. In fact, it will hurt them even more because Obama promised to listen to the concerns of the citizens, not operate with a tin ear.”

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Captain America leads the New Guards in decisive action….

ted c on August 7, 2009 at 11:43 AM

Obama Thugz Brigades scatter at the sight of the New Guards….

ted c on August 7, 2009 at 11:44 AM

“If you get hit, we will punch back twice as hard,” Messina said, according to an official who attended the meeting…

I’m having trouble with this grammar here, or maybe the context.

Who is the you in that sentence, and who is the we?

misslizzi on August 7, 2009 at 9:27 AM

Your post is a lot more interesting the second time I read it.
Of course, who is “you” and who are “we”….is this the two nations Kerry talks about?
Are these the “elites” Palin talks about?
Is this the government vs. people?
Union thugs? Government agencies? Legislature? Judges? Police? Military?

right2bright on August 7, 2009 at 12:06 PM

Using the standards set up by the Left themselves when Tiller was murdered, President Obama is personally responsible for the violence he has unleashed.

TheBigOldDog on August 7, 2009 at 12:10 PM

I was just listening to rush. He had the woman whose husband, A STAGE 4 CANCER VICTIM WITH AN OSTOMY AND IV PORT pinned against the wall by union thugs.


First of all I hope there is a special place in hell reserved for all responsible with an oversized demon with a huge barbed thing for everyone who had anything to do with that.

I also think it might be time to play the liberal game of Lawsuit Lottery Jackpot Bingo. Those folks ought to get a good team of lawyers and sue the congresscritter, the union jerks and anyone else who contributed to that.

I hope those u

bullseye on August 7, 2009 at 1:56 PM

“They are just helping us understand the fringe that is trying to mess up our meetings,” said Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.).

I’m pretty sure this is very similar to the mindset King George had before the Boston Massacre and I’m also sure B. Hussien Obama thinks the same way.

TrickyDick on August 7, 2009 at 1:58 PM

White House chief of staff Rahm Emanuel warned liberal groups this week to stop running ads against Democratic members of Congress.

The powerful top aide to President Obama made his feelings known at the weekly closed-door strategy session of an array of progressive organizations, according to two sources who were there.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0809/25900.html#ixzz0NWZg8xSn

So Rahm has enemies to the left of him and enemies to the right, and there he is stuck in the middle with BHO.

ted c on August 7, 2009 at 2:48 PM

This is tyranny. Obama is a Tyrant.

James on August 7, 2009 at 3:20 PM

What do we expect from a guy that doesn’t speak out for the Iranian youths, opposed to Tyranny. The hondurans, opposed to Tyranny. What do we expect from a guy who bows to the Saudi King, a tyrant. Who exchanges pleasantries with Chavez and Castro. What do we expect from a guy who apologizes for America around the world and snubs Merkel and Sarkozy?

What do we expect? A Tyrant, that is what we should expect.

James on August 7, 2009 at 3:23 PM

bullseye on August 7, 2009 at 1:56 PM

Yep. I heard that too. Even Rush was surprised at her details of the event.

Geochelone on August 7, 2009 at 10:16 PM

“If you get hit, we will punch back twice as hard,” Messina said, according to an official who attended the meeting…

Tuff words from Mister Fancy-Pants and the Administration of Public Information.

“They are just helping us understand the fringe that is trying to mess up our meetings,” said Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.).

So let me get this straight, if you don’t drink the Kool-Aid, you’re part of the “Fringe”.

An adminstration ago, dissent, or even mild disagreement was deemed “Patriotic”. In the new “Era Of Transparency” you’re a kook.

Reality Check Washington – you work for the majority of the American People,not the Lobbyists or Fringe Interests that keep you in office.

We don’t work for you.

We are not the Batteries in your Grand Social Experiment.

Get that through your Socialist skulls, or you’re OUTTA THERE!

(Hey Barry, is that Chicago enough for you?)

realitycheck on August 8, 2009 at 12:06 AM

So… Der Furher demands violence, and violence is delivered. There’s no difference between the “Town hall meetings” and the “Beer hall riots” in early Nazi Germany. Why again are we not allowed to refer to these thugs as Nazis? They sure as hell deserve the title. I’ll say it, and defend my statements… “The Democratic leadership in this country are NAZIS, and the people that follow and support them are just as guilty and accountable”. Let operation Valkyrie begin.

ronnyraygun on August 8, 2009 at 8:30 AM