ObamaCare would use tax money for abortions: AP

posted at 11:36 am on August 6, 2009 by Ed Morrissey

A few days ago, the Associated Press issued a “fact check” on the health-care reform package that included a refutation of the idea that the public plan would pay for abortions.  After abortion opponents ripped Charles Babington for poor reporting, the AP turned the story over to Ricardo Alfonso Zaldivar, who fact-checked the fact check.  Now the AP acknowledges that the public plan would indeed use taxpayer money to pay for abortions:

Health care legislation before Congress would allow a new government-sponsored insurance plan to cover abortions, a decision that would affect millions of women and recast federal policy on the divisive issue. …

A compromise approved by a House committee last week attempted to balance questions of federal funding, personal choice and the conscience rights of clinicians. It would allow the public plan to cover abortion but without using federal funds, only dollars from beneficiary premiums. Likewise, private plans in the new insurance exchange could opt to cover abortion, but no federal subsidies would be used to pay for the procedure. …

But the health overhaul would create a stream of federal funding not covered by the restrictions.

The new federal funds would take the form of subsidies for low- and middle-income people buying coverage through the health insurance exchange. Subsidies would be available for people to buy the public plan or private coverage. Making things more complicated, the federal subsidies would be mixed in with contributions from individuals and employers. Eventually, most Americans could end up getting their coverage through the exchange.

In other words, the entire exercise is an end run around the Hyde Amendment.  The issue first arose when conservatives noted that abortion did not get mentioned in any of the versions of ObamaCare floating around on Capitol Hill.  A lack of restriction on abortion funding would essentially repeal the Hyde Amendment, which bars federal funds from being used to pay for abortions.  The plan would not have to specifically include abortions, just as plans don’t specifically include any procedures, but would cover any legal medical service and fund it either directly or through subsidies.

Obama and his Congressional allies appear to have found a way to pass the Freedom of Choice Act without having to deal with the political fallout of it, by burying it in ObamaCare.  It’s a dishonest approach, especially since the bill’s sponsors won’t openly acknowledge the change.  A plurality of Americans think of themselves as pro-choice (majorities in some polls), but many more people believe that their tax dollars should not fund abortions whether they support their legality or not.

Rep. Lois Capps (D-CA) wants to offer a “compromise” that would allow private insurers to qualify plans in the state exchanges that specifically exclude abortion.  Capps says, “Our country allows for both sides, and our health plan should reflect that as well,” but that misses the point.  The issue is not with private insurers, but with public funding of abortions.  It’s not a compromise at all if any taxpayer money gets used to pay for abortions.

Maybe Babington should have looked a little closer the first time on this story.


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Obamacare: Gettin’ your babies–SHOVEL READY

ted c on August 6, 2009 at 11:38 AM

Keep your options open: Choose Obamacare

ted c on August 6, 2009 at 11:38 AM

Told you so

Vashta.Nerada on August 6, 2009 at 11:38 AM

Why burden the earth with more CO2: Choose Obamacare

ted c on August 6, 2009 at 11:38 AM

Obama and his Congressional allies appear to have found a way to pass the Freedom of Choice Act without having to deal with the political fallout of it, by burying it in ObamaCare.

Yup…and that’s how they’ll legislate away many more freedoms once they get this passed.

Everything will be cloaked under the guise of saving healthcare dollars.

Control the healthcare of a population, control the population.

Asher on August 6, 2009 at 11:39 AM

Save the terrorist. Kill the baby.

faraway on August 6, 2009 at 11:39 AM

Cash For Clumpers

LibTired on August 6, 2009 at 11:39 AM

…a decision that would affect millions of women and recast federal policy on the divisive issue

It will affect the abortees too.

And everyone who is paying for it.

forest on August 6, 2009 at 11:39 AM

State run media covering for Obama? Say it isn’t so.

Ordinary1 on August 6, 2009 at 11:39 AM

Think about your life in 9 mos: Choose Obamacare

ted c on August 6, 2009 at 11:39 AM

Out: ObamaCare
In: Abortioncare

faraway on August 6, 2009 at 11:40 AM

Like they aren’t already using our tax to kill our precious children?

CynicalOptimist on August 6, 2009 at 11:40 AM

Taking care of your baby so you don’t have to…

Choose Obamacare

ted c on August 6, 2009 at 11:40 AM

Rep. Lois Capps (D-CA) wants to offer a “compromise” that would allow private insurers to qualify plans in the state exchanges that specifically exclude abortion. Capps says, “Our country allows for both sides, and our health plan should reflect that as well,” but that misses the point. The issue is not with private insurers, but with public funding of abortions. It’s not a compromise at all if any taxpayer money gets used to pay for abortions.

Capps is being disingenuous – money is fungible.

Vashta.Nerada on August 6, 2009 at 11:40 AM

Cash for Fetuses

faraway on August 6, 2009 at 11:41 AM

New statistics show it costs $212,000 to raise a child

Obamacare can help you with that.

ted c on August 6, 2009 at 11:41 AM

ObamaCare would use tax money for abortions

Taking away the choice of going to hell or heaven.

Bicyea on August 6, 2009 at 11:41 AM

pathetic journalism at it’s finest!.

hawkman on August 6, 2009 at 11:42 AM

how does killing a fetus protect a woman’s health? specifics please

Ris4victory on August 6, 2009 at 11:42 AM

Obamacare: End of Life counseling for the old….and the young…

ted c on August 6, 2009 at 11:42 AM

Between using taxpayer money to pay for abortions and counseling the elderly on the most efficient way of their dying, the Democrats sure seem interested in using an alleged “health care” bill to provide fast and efficient deaths to a lot of people.

ChrisB on August 6, 2009 at 11:42 AM

Gives new meaning to “from cradle to grave.”

creatocon on August 6, 2009 at 11:42 AM

Vile, utter scum Democrats.

There is no compromising with them, there is no accommodating them.

They are not our friends, our neighbors or our countrymen.

They are our enemies.

Everything that comes out of their mouths is a lie and everything they “produce” tears down our country.

NoDonkey on August 6, 2009 at 11:42 AM

Obamacare: We fix all your mistakes by slicing them up and throwing them away for ya’. Thank you, Dear Leader.

JustTruth101 on August 6, 2009 at 11:42 AM

It wouldn’t use federal funds, but instead use money from premiums.

Considering the fact that there will soon be only the govt plan, and the fact that you are pretty much required, by law, to buy insurance.

What’s the practical difference between “federal funds” and “premiums”?

MarkTheGreat on August 6, 2009 at 11:43 AM

liberalism: the death ideology.

daesleeper on August 6, 2009 at 11:43 AM

Gives new meaning to “from cradle to grave.”

creatocon on August 6, 2009 at 11:42 AM

If you make it to the cradle, you suffer until they can put you in the grave.

Vashta.Nerada on August 6, 2009 at 11:44 AM

Obamacare: Saving millions of women from the ‘punishment’ of having a baby.

Trafalgar on August 6, 2009 at 11:45 AM

Yet another reason to resist. See you on the field.

Bishop on August 6, 2009 at 11:45 AM

Too bad this wasn’t part of the law in Hawaii in the 60′s.

NJ Red on August 6, 2009 at 11:45 AM

Isn’t it fishy that all the democrat’s initiatives have such evil ends? They take something good, like healthcare, and try to wrap it up in a pretty package so it sounds like they are helping, when really there is death and destruction for babies and the elderly as an integral part of the plan. Hmmm, taking something created for good and using it for evil, that sounds so familiar, I know I’ve heard that kind of modus operandi somewhere before…

JustTruth101 on August 6, 2009 at 11:45 AM

C’mon … the democrats are just being efficient.

By aborting people before they’re born, they’ll prevent them from joining the growing welfare system … and, they won’t have to pay to euthanize them when they’re no longer of any use to the ruling class.

Plus it gives the ruling class the added benefit of keeping the population of “undesirables” within a controllable range.

darwin on August 6, 2009 at 11:46 AM

how does killing a fetus protect a woman’s health? specifics please

Ris4victory on August 6, 2009 at 11:42 AM

Good question. Step inside the lexicon of a statist liberal.

In the real world, murder equals murder. In the liberal world, murder equals choice.

In the real world, children are a blessing. In the liberal world, children are a hassle, a drain, a problem (that is, unless they are in school–then they need to be “socialized”)

Liberals routinely use nice words, polled words like choice, reform, tax cuts, and benefits where we would use the terms abortion, control, tax hikes and entitlements.
Moreover, liberals will use the term “liberty” and it connotates an entirely different meaning from the way we’d use it. See the back cover of Liberty and Tyranny by Mark Levin and you’ll see how they use language against you. Liberals must be forced to operationally define their terms at every turn. They purposefully obscure the real meaning of what they say by hiding it amongst the weeds of language.

ted c on August 6, 2009 at 11:46 AM

What’s a few fetuses amongst friends?

bloggless on August 6, 2009 at 11:47 AM

Save an illegal, abort a Senior.

bloggless on August 6, 2009 at 11:48 AM

NoDonkey on August 6, 2009 at 11:42 AM

Armed. Revolution. Now.

Woot, I just got us both flagged!

Grafted on August 6, 2009 at 11:48 AM

Once the government officially pays for abortions and pays for healthcare, it is not too much of a stretch for the government to start making cost effective decisions about which babies should be aborted to cut down on future medical costs.

myrenovations on August 6, 2009 at 11:48 AM

how does killing a fetus protect a woman’s health? specifics please

Ris4victory on August 6, 2009 at 11:42 AM

Killing a baby is done in the name of protecting the mother’s “Financial” Health.

CynicalOptimist on August 6, 2009 at 11:48 AM

It wouldn’t use federal funds, but instead use money from premiums.

Considering the fact that there will soon be only the govt plan, and the fact that you are pretty much required, by law, to buy insurance.

What’s the practical difference between “federal funds” and “premiums”?

MarkTheGreat on August 6, 2009 at 11:43 AM

Excellent–see! Markthegreat is showing how the liberals hide the true meaning of their programs in flowery language. They need to be called on it every time and redirected and redefined. Hold their feet to the fire.

ted c on August 6, 2009 at 11:48 AM

When the government option, exchange, whatever name is used is the only option, your payment for health care coverage is no longer a premium, it is a tax.

Skandia Recluse on August 6, 2009 at 11:48 AM

Meanwhile the media is watching out for us with unbiased and critical reporting of the Ogabe administration:

http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1914663,00.html

Bishop on August 6, 2009 at 11:49 AM

Ed, you guys really just want Nazi death camps to come back, don’t you? Just admit it.

You violent, mob-like, paid shill/front group, extremist, Nazi killer bigot racist astroturfers.

You are SO reported to The Leader it, like, isn’t even funny.

Good Lt on August 6, 2009 at 11:49 AM

Just wait until Obamacare tells you that you MUST abort your baby because you already have a child, or your baby has Down’s Syndrome, or your baby will only have one arm, or whatever Obama doesn’t like. One perfect baby per woman, nothing more nothing less. It’s only fair to save the system $$$, not to mention Mother Earth.

SouthernGent on August 6, 2009 at 11:49 AM

What’s the practical difference between “federal funds” and “premiums”?

MarkTheGreat on August 6, 2009 at 11:43 AM

Accounting tricks to avoid having to comply with the law. If the filthy liar in the White House wants to kill babies, like the laws he sponsored in Ill., then he needs to come out and say it.

highhopes on August 6, 2009 at 11:49 AM

The issue is not with private insurers, but with public funding of abortions.

The shifting of the focus from health care to insurance was mentioned briefly by Frank Lunz the other night. Every issue is now to be portrayed by Obamacare proponents as a problem with insurance companies. Lunz said the terminology being used was poll-driven. It’s easier to demonize the insurers than to sell the plan.

ROCnPhilly on August 6, 2009 at 11:50 AM

While I’m not surprised that the Dems stuck this in the bill, there’s no way this will survive the final version that’s offered up for a vote. Every Blue Dog would get run in 2010 and Obama would destroy his chances with most independents in 2012(he’s already lost 90% of the Republican vote).

Doughboy on August 6, 2009 at 11:50 AM

how does killing a fetus protect a woman’s health? specifics please

Ris4victory on August 6, 2009 at 11:42 AM

Keeps her from having to have a tummy-tuck and a boob lift 10 years down the road.

Bicyea on August 6, 2009 at 11:50 AM

Birth Control:

Diaphram
Condoms
ObamaCare Magnums.

portlandon on August 6, 2009 at 11:50 AM

Choose Obamacare: Don’t punish women with babies.

Daggett on August 6, 2009 at 11:50 AM

GREAT picture btw…

Obama is happy to be mistaken for the Messiah

battleoflepanto1571 on August 6, 2009 at 11:50 AM

Democrats don’t believe that human beings are of divine creation with a soul.

Rather, they believe we are no different from an ape, a cat or a cockroach.

Some animals, like Barack Obama, are more equal than others.

Some are not. We need less people so lunatic environmentalists like Nancy Pelosi can “save the planet”.

Federally funded abortions are one way. And how long before we have mandatory abortions or sterilizations, for people (i.e. non-elitist Democrats) not deemed worthy of reproducing and consuming our “precious resources”?

Democrat politicians are not Americans, they are sub-human scum who must be defeated.

NoDonkey on August 6, 2009 at 11:50 AM

One perfect baby per woman, nothing more nothing less. It’s only fair to save the system $$$, not to mention Mother Earth.

SouthernGent on August 6, 2009 at 11:49 AM

But then what? At what age is you child sent off to a political indoctrination school to learn how best to serve the dictator in the White House?

highhopes on August 6, 2009 at 11:51 AM

HEY LIBERALS!!!!! your killing future tax payers!

grapeknutz on August 6, 2009 at 11:51 AM

When the government option, exchange, whatever name is used is the only option, your payment for health care coverage is no longer a premium, it is a tax.

Skandia Recluse on August 6, 2009 at 11:48 AM

yes, yes yes–

tax is now taboo. we need to target everything they do, every little word they use. For nothing they say, can be taken at face value. Challenge every definition.
Premium=tax
Tax cut=tax
TAX TAX TAX TAX TAX

ted c on August 6, 2009 at 11:51 AM

This is why it is important to read the whole bill..and the reason why they didn’t want you to read the bill.
The big story is they tried to hide the abortion part of the bill.
And the bigger story is that they knew it was obtuse, and they were trying to get it through before people could read and analyze.
Now, here is the question…how many more of these “traps” are there?
And if a person tries to fool you once, twice, three times, when do you just say…NO!
And that is what these protests are about, not specifics, but the general attitude of trying to ram something through, with any discussion or “transparency”.

right2bright on August 6, 2009 at 11:51 AM

Liberals kill tax payers, kill voters, kill seniors and kill productivity. Simultaneously, they socialize people into BECOMING LIBERALS in elementary school, high school, in the media, in college, from movies….

what a deal….

ted c on August 6, 2009 at 11:52 AM

RepublicanMob.org is offering a great deal on new membership.

Get a new pitchfork with your membership.

darwin on August 6, 2009 at 11:52 AM

Culture of Corruption indeed. Corruption and Death.
They don’t care about anybody’s “choice” except the one to abort and have you pay for it.

If this goes through I think they will be gobsmacked at the tax revenue drop when people stop paying. (I know we are already taxed for some of it, but the direct link will be more obvious after this.)

BakerAllie on August 6, 2009 at 11:52 AM

What’s a few fetuses amongst friends?

bloggless on August 6, 2009 at 11:47 AM

delicious

CynicalOptimist on August 6, 2009 at 11:53 AM

Ironically, the wall behind 0 in the pic says “Jesus Christ Is Lord” and last I heard, Jesus died for the unborn as much as any of us.

Was the photo selected on purpose?

OmahaConservative on August 6, 2009 at 11:53 AM

It’s a dishonest approach

status quo for these folks

cmsinaz on August 6, 2009 at 11:53 AM

There are 624 Catholic hospitals in the U.S., and the Catholic Health Association says they make up 13% of the country’s nearly 5,000 hospitals and employ more than 600,000 people. They also provide medical services to about 900,000 people (Catholic and non-Catholic) each year. They will shut down if forced to perform abortions, government-funded or not.

Great, 600,000 people out of work and almost a million patients per year dumped on other, already overstretched hospitals.

Trafalgar on August 6, 2009 at 11:53 AM

Maybe Babington should be doing something other than writing for a living. When you put out the words of the left as your own what does that make you?

d1carter on August 6, 2009 at 11:54 AM

So a woman has a sonogram, and the baby is “not perfect”…the state says, we cannot cover you with this “deformity” for the baby, “it” will have to be looked at for life and it is not cost justified.
So now what?

right2bright on August 6, 2009 at 11:54 AM

All women will be issued a Malthusian belt. Birth-borns will be outcast. We will celebrate decanting days. Children will play centrifugal bumble-puppy.

daesleeper on August 6, 2009 at 11:55 AM

Killing the old and the unborn.

jencab on August 6, 2009 at 11:55 AM

So a woman has a sonogram, and the baby is “not perfect”…the state says, we cannot cover you with this “deformity” for the baby, “it” will have to be looked at for life and it is not cost justified.
So now what?

right2bright on August 6, 2009 at 11:54 AM

Revolution?

darwin on August 6, 2009 at 11:55 AM

Our congressional delegation from OK tried to get an amendment to ban taxpayer funded abortion in the healthscare bill. The libs voted it down.

farright on August 6, 2009 at 11:55 AM

Gives new meaning to “from cradle to grave.”

creatocon on August 6, 2009 at 11:42 AM

Chilling.

NickelAndDime on August 6, 2009 at 11:55 AM

Killing the old and the unborn.

jencab on August 6, 2009 at 11:55 AM

Is the first step. After the public becomes desensitized to killing the young, ill, mentally handicapped and the old … they start going after the Christians and Jews.

darwin on August 6, 2009 at 11:57 AM

Health care legislation before Congress would allow a new government-sponsored insurance plan to cover abortions

The time for talk is through.

NickelAndDime on August 6, 2009 at 11:57 AM

right2bright on August 6, 2009 at 11:54 AM

Sonogram?

If a baby is born and deemed deficient in any way by the Democrat Party, that’s where their cost savings will come from.

To Democrats, human life is not sacred. Only their political careers and the sanctity of what passes for left wing “thinking” is sacred.

Human beings are expendable – that’s what Democrat scum believe.

NoDonkey on August 6, 2009 at 11:58 AM

I know several liberals with special needs children, just as I know several libs over the age of 65 who are in poor health.

We have got to keep the pressure and the information flowing. There is not enough outrage yet.

ORconservative on August 6, 2009 at 11:58 AM

OmahaConservative on August 6, 2009 at 11:53 AM

The filthy liar in the White House is so arrogant that when he dies, it will be a great honor for God to meet him.

highhopes on August 6, 2009 at 11:59 AM

Love the photo you chose, AP. The wall behind Obama reads ‘Jesus Christ is Lord.’

Jesus may be many things to the Abortionist-in-Chief (a good teacher, a community organizer, one of many paths to God), but He isn’t Obama’s lord.

jazz_piano on August 6, 2009 at 12:00 PM

Does this mean we have to report the AP to the Flag?

bloggless on August 6, 2009 at 12:00 PM

Hey we could save millions if we had some epidemic coming and only bought doses for 1/3 of the country and made sure that “WE” got them.

Oh wait, you mean we only ordered 100 million doses of the H1N1 vaccine?

Talk about your redistribution of wealth! Think how much we would make on the inheritance taxes!

We could even do a cash for coffins rebate. Talk about a stimulus to the “no longer in need of” health care industry.

barnone on August 6, 2009 at 12:01 PM

Does this mean we have to report the AP to the Flag?

bloggless on August 6, 2009 at 12:00 PM

Yes, reported.

wildcat84 on August 6, 2009 at 12:01 PM

Don’t worry, they will only abort “Fishy” babies.

ronsfi on August 6, 2009 at 12:01 PM

And we thought it would be the economy would make Obama the new “Hoover”, sheeesh!

Laura in Maryland on August 6, 2009 at 12:01 PM

Rockabye baby on the treetop
when the wind blows the cradle will rock
if the bough breaks the cradle will fall
and Obama won’t catch you…

but wait till next fall….

ted c on August 6, 2009 at 12:01 PM

Good eye with the Freedom of Choice act. This absolutely would be a passage of that act under the cover of darkness.

This administration gets sleazier every day. I wonder how many other hidden secrets and loopholes Obamacare has.

Daemonocracy on August 6, 2009 at 12:01 PM

This is nothing short of an attempt at an end-game maneuver by the collectivist fascists of ‘the left’.

They smile, wear lapel flags, claim to be patriots, claim to love America….it is all a facade.

They are traitors and usurpers. They are enemies of the state. They must be stopped by any and all means necessary.

LimeyGeek on August 6, 2009 at 12:02 PM

Yes, reported.

wildcat84 on August 6, 2009 at 12:01 PM

Are you a Kansan? I grew up there.

jazz_piano on August 6, 2009 at 12:02 PM

Will ObamaCare impose retroactive abortion?

darwin on August 6, 2009 at 12:02 PM

BakerAllie on August 6, 2009 at 11:52 AM

I will say one thing for the filthy liar in the White House and his corrupt party. He’s done a better job at energizing the grassroots conservatives to a single purpose than John McCain ever did.

highhopes on August 6, 2009 at 12:02 PM

highhopes on August 6, 2009 at 11:59 AM

I’m confused, won’t Great Leader just ascend into heaven, with Chris Matthews attached to his crouch?

NoDonkey on August 6, 2009 at 12:02 PM

right2bright on August 6, 2009 at 11:54 AM

Sonogram?

If a baby is born and deemed deficient in any way by the Democrat Party, that’s where their cost savings will come from.

To Democrats, human life is not sacred. Only their political careers and the sanctity of what passes for left wing “thinking” is sacred.

Human beings are expendable – that’s what Democrat scum believe.

NoDonkey on August 6, 2009 at 11:58 AM

It’s not hyperbole to suggest, our country is now run by demons sent by Satan. As Michelle Obama is now finally proud of America, my feeling is one of shame and disgust.

Jeff from WI on August 6, 2009 at 12:03 PM

The filthy liar in the White House is so arrogant that when he dies, it will be a great honor for God to meet him.

highhopes on August 6, 2009 at 11:59 AM

No, he thinks he IS a god.

Obama doesn’t worship the moon god allah (despite his roots) or God, he worships himself.

It wouldn’t surprise me if some supporters of his start building “Barakopolis” temples to worship him at.

In ancient times, Roman Emperors proclaimed themselves gods.

wildcat84 on August 6, 2009 at 12:03 PM

The filthy liar in the White House is so arrogant that when he dies, it will be a great honor for God to meet him.

highhopes on August 6, 2009 at 11:59 AM

I got an F in Bible study, but I don’t think Lucifer is allowed back in heaven????

Laura in Maryland on August 6, 2009 at 12:03 PM

ObamaMassaC(a)re

Aristotle on August 6, 2009 at 12:04 PM

Has anyone ran this by the Catholic Hospitals?? We have a good one in my area. It would be devasting if it were to go away. How is that “Hope and Change” going for everyone.

Dire Straits on August 6, 2009 at 12:04 PM

Between using taxpayer money to pay for abortions and counseling the elderly on the most efficient way of their dying, the Democrats sure seem interested in using an alleged “health care” bill to provide fast and efficient deaths to a lot of people.

ChrisB on August 6, 2009 at 11:42 AM

The biggest problem with healthcare reform is that it exempts congress-critters, gubmint employees and unions from having to participate in “single payer” healthcare. Its good enough for the masses, but not good enough for the politically connected. In other words, Obamacare is for the “LITTLE PEOPLE”!

belad on August 6, 2009 at 12:04 PM

I’m confused, won’t Great Leader just ascend into heaven, with Chris Matthews attached to his crouch?

NoDonkey on August 6, 2009 at 12:02 PM

Or the ground will open up.

ICBM on August 6, 2009 at 12:04 PM

It seems like most conservatives are focused on fiscal issues and size of gov’t right now, and these are winning issues.

But I wonder if abortion may be the powder keg that explodes first, likely in Kansas.

jazz_piano on August 6, 2009 at 12:04 PM

Think about your life in 9 mos: Choose Obamacare

ted c on August 6, 2009 at 11:39 AM

In 9 months I will be a proud father.

Fu*k Off, loser.

bluelightbrigade on August 6, 2009 at 12:05 PM

They smile, wear lapel flags, claim to be patriots, claim to love America….it is all a facade.

They are traitors and usurpers. They are enemies of the state. They must be stopped by any and all means necessary.

LimeyGeek on August 6, 2009 at 12:02 PM

The left’s “patriotism” is limited only to their wannabe deity figure, and doesn’t include the flag, the Constitution, or Liberty.

wildcat84 on August 6, 2009 at 12:06 PM

deathcare.

no matter what your opinion on the abortion issue, this item alone should kill the bill.

or the fact that women with breast cancer wouldn’t get lifesaving treatment.

take your choice.

kelley in virginia on August 6, 2009 at 12:07 PM

This is just too much.

A majority of Americans will morally refuse to live in a country that uses their tax dollars forcefully to kill children.

If this plan gets passed, this country cannot continue as we know it for very long.

It’s scary out there, folks…..

JoeinTX on August 6, 2009 at 12:07 PM

ObamaCare: Humane Feticide

faraway on August 6, 2009 at 12:07 PM

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