Good news: Conservative “mobs” to be confronted by law-abiding, highly ethical … unions
posted at 2:34 pm on August 6, 2009 by Allahpundit
Sounds good. A guy from Chicago with shady connections needs some muscle, so he calls in organized labor.
What could go wrong?
Every American has the inalienable right to participate in our democratic process. Our politics is passionate, heartfelt and often loud — as was the founding of our nation. But that is not what the corporate-funded mobs are engaging in when they show up to disrupt town halls held by members of Congress.
Major health care reform is closer than ever to passage and it is no secret that special interests want to weaken or block it. These mobs are not there to participate. As their own strategy memo states, they have been sent by their corporate and lobbyist bankrollers to disrupt, heckle and block meaningful debate. This is a desperation move, meant to slow the momentum for change.
Mob rule is not democracy. People have a democratic right to express themselves and our elected leaders have a right to hear from their constituents — not organized thugs whose sole purpose is to shut down the conversation and attempt to scare our leaders into inaction
We call on the insurance companies, the lobbyists and the Republican leaders who are cheering them on to halt these ‘Brooks Brothers Riot’ tactics. Health care is a crucial issue and everyone – on all sides of the issue – deserves to be heard.
I’m dying to know: Which “strategy memo” are they referring to? They can’t possibly mean … this, can they? Exit question via Ace: Does this qualify as astroturfing too or, like racism, is that sin now wholly the province of the right?
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Democrats have always been about projection justification. They make themselves believe that Republicans and Conservatives are doing something ill and nefarious, so that makes it okay that they can do it.
Republicans are astro-turfing! So we’re going to astro-turf!
Republicans are inciting a mob! So we’re going to defend by inciting a mob!
The problem is, however, Republicans aren’t. It’s just a projected justification to cover themselves.
Enoxo on August 6, 2009 at 3:21 PM
All because we’re not kissin’ Barry’s Butt over healthcare.
Who’da thunk it?
misslizzi on August 6, 2009 at 3:22 PM
**You liberals are all a bunch of f*ckin’ pussies!**
Uh, the left has their muscle. You won’t feel so tough when a bunch of mobbed up union thugs are smashing your car after you ask your congressman about the health care bill.
joeindc44 on August 6, 2009
How would they know it’s your car unless they follow you out to it. “Sorry, officer, when they started bashing on my car I had to open fire. I feared for my life”.
SKYFOX on August 6, 2009 at 3:23 PM
Say what you will about JFK, but his words still apply.
innominatus on August 6, 2009 at 3:26 PM
We’re soon reaching a boiling point.
When that’s reached, Heaven help us, because nobody else will.
newton on August 6, 2009 at 3:27 PM
I really believe that the left is grossly underestimating the backlash that’s coming. Yes, there have been right wing extremist, operatives, etc. But, what they have done is awaken the everyday working man and woman to a call to arms. Never in my lifetime (40 some odd yrs) have I seen emotions from everyday citizens run so high, from either side of the aisle.
HoustonRight on August 6, 2009 at 3:27 PM
See…that license to carry does come in handy!
HoustonRight on August 6, 2009 at 3:29 PM
and just to point it out, I am an old school conservative poster on here and Ace, my point is that the left side of the aisle has many constituencies for whom violence is a way of life. They aren’t all vegan SWPL’s. Be careful out there folks.
joeindc44 on August 6, 2009 at 3:29 PM
Has anyone said this yet:
Alinsky, you magnificent bastard, we read your book!
Rational Thought on August 6, 2009 at 3:31 PM
joe, the left side does have many whom violence is a way of life, but you forget they are not used to be challenged by those out of uniform that are not forced to respond with their hands tied behind their backs or fear of using “excessive force.” That is about to change.
Virginia Shanahan on August 6, 2009 at 3:32 PM
What’s SWPL?
txsurveyor on August 6, 2009 at 3:33 PM
At least the mask has dropped; now more folks can see Him for what he is: a thin-skinned Chicago bully who has no qualms about sending out thugs when things don’t go his way.
Deceptive, arrogant, manipulative narcissist. (DAMN!)
Bruno Strozek on August 6, 2009 at 3:36 PM
What the Commie/DEMS forgot, is that unlike Russia or Germany, we’re ARMED
Jeff from WI on August 6, 2009 at 3:38 PM
SWPL = stuff white people like. hip urban d-bags.
joeindc44 on August 6, 2009 at 3:40 PM
It probably will given the large number of compliant, half conscious morons in America. “If MSNBC said it, it must be true.”
Django on August 6, 2009 at 3:41 PM
Can you say FLASHPOINT?
Have these people read history about the years 1856-1860?
Paging Capt. John Parker your time has almost ome again
bill30097 on August 6, 2009 at 3:41 PM
Let’s Roll
bill30097 on August 6, 2009 at 3:42 PM
Gee, I remember when I was in Vietnam and the union guys were on our side.
Just goes to show the inexorable march of socialist entitlement politics.
guntotinglibertarian on August 6, 2009 at 3:43 PM
anyone going to Donna Edwards townhall tonight?
joeindc44 on August 6, 2009 at 3:43 PM
Why so worried Newt? This is what the gun nuts have been dreaming about. Now they will be able to use those assault weapons they bought from the mouth-breathers at the Virginia gun shows.
Blueneck on August 6, 2009 at 3:43 PM
Mr. Glock says +2
bill30097 on August 6, 2009 at 3:44 PM
Two reasons:
1) Eventual single-payer government health care = 2 million health care workers becoming union members and paying union dues. SEIU will become the biggest and most powerful union in U.S. history. This is a HUGE power trip for Andy Stern.
2) It’s being sold to the rank and file union members as a make-or-break for Obama, if the unions want Card Check they had better get behind him on health care.
rockmom on August 6, 2009 at 3:44 PM
Call in the Basji! The people are out of control!
HondaV65 on August 6, 2009 at 3:45 PM
Don’t worry about the Unions.
SEIU is the only one that will play – and they won’t be a big factor at all. ACORN is under investigation by everyone – and the whole kit and kaboodle is being torn into by the Louisiana Attorney General. They’re occupied.
What you’re left with is the UAW and the like – the blue collar working guys – and to tell the truth – they don’t like what’s going on anymore than we do. Yeah their bosses may tell them to get in the streets – but they wont.
HondaV65 on August 6, 2009 at 3:47 PM
For the time being, buddy. Do you really think the background-check information you give when you buy a firearm isn’t sitting in a Federal database somewhere?
I know the state of California definitely maintains that information. Even when you move to CA and bring your guns with you, you’re required to report them to the state DOJ: failure to do so is a felony.
Are we willing, individually, to engage in firefights on our doorsteps?
We’d better start thinking of a strategy…
guntotinglibertarian on August 6, 2009 at 3:47 PM
That’s about the only true thing they’re being sold.
BadgerHawk on August 6, 2009 at 3:48 PM
The current administration is managing to bring Americans together like no other before…..and they want this administartion gone.
Hening on August 6, 2009 at 3:50 PM
Uhh, that’s exactly what democracy is…what the majority (mob) says go’s.
Thankfully we aren’t a “democracy.” If only our idiotic politicians would stop referring us as one.
modnar on August 6, 2009 at 3:51 PM
I’ll take John Browning for $1911 Alex.
Fighton03 on August 6, 2009 at 3:51 PM
In CA, farmers are going broke and over 80,000 jobs have been lost due to a court-mandated shut-off of water to the most productive farms in America – in order to protect a tiny species of non-native fish.
When the farmworkers appealed to politicians and the United Farmworker’s Union, they were told they would get no support unless they would allow themselves to be organized to agitate on behalf of Card Check.
guntotinglibertarian on August 6, 2009 at 3:51 PM
Hey this is great…I’m a healthcare provider, I’ll ask for a card check before treating anyone I suspect of being a union thug–if they produce one–I’ll show them the way to the front door….
shrugging…
ted c on August 6, 2009 at 3:53 PM
SW Model 29
g’head….
ted c on August 6, 2009 at 3:54 PM
one of the donkeys actually did when arguing against listening to the protests! Funny how they find it now. Bet they can’t find authorization to take on healthcare in the constitution though.
Fighton03 on August 6, 2009 at 3:55 PM
I’m guessing the left keeps accusing concerned citizens of thuggish tactics b/c that is their playbook. Their assumption must be “if we (the extreme left) do this, then they (everyone else) must do this as well.” Either that, or they just cannot believe that anyone would honestly disagree with their ideals to make everyone wholly dependent on the federal government.
Conservative in NOVA on August 6, 2009 at 3:56 PM
these videos are gold. These AARP folks are on the wrong side of right in this whole debate and it shows.
Liberty’s talkin’ there Obama. Anyone up there listening?
ted c on August 6, 2009 at 3:56 PM
The union will come out and try to bully, but the ordinary everyday people will win over the union…not the bosses, but the union.
When they look out and begin to see it is their neighbors, teachers, kids coaches, grocery clerk, they will begin to understand, this is a nation “under God”, not under someones thumb.
And people will have the right, and will exercise the right to demonstrate and speak.
It is time for the politicians to quit speaking to us, and begin listening to us.
The unions may not like it, but they won’t fight it…for long.
right2bright on August 6, 2009 at 4:00 PM
SW M&P .40, Glock 19, Baretta 90 two.
Too old to carry all at once :) Besides only have two hands
HoustonRight on August 6, 2009 at 4:01 PM
In all seriousness we need to ignore any thugs that may show up and use it against them. But if the first stone so thrown..
HoustonRight on August 6, 2009 at 4:03 PM
I read yours after I posted mine…we are in total agreement.
The common union member won’t fight their neighbor over this.
right2bright on August 6, 2009 at 4:03 PM
Me thinks we are headed towards a civil war. Glad I’m in Texas with lots of armed folks.
txag92 on August 6, 2009 at 4:03 PM
This will be rich. I’m gonna sit back, enjoy a beer, and watch the show. I already saw the Keith Olberman / Lou Dobbs show earlier, so lets hope this topps that.
saiga on August 6, 2009 at 4:04 PM
Me too. Lots of guns and lots of ammo here in Texas and lots of Texans that know how it works.
Don’t mess with Texas, cause it could start some shootin.
saiga on August 6, 2009 at 4:07 PM
I assume by your tag that you attended A&M. Did you take eeconomics while you were there and if so what professor. If you don’t mind my asking.
HoustonRight on August 6, 2009 at 4:10 PM
Here’s a starting point: find your like minded neighbors and get a contact strategy. A Phone number would be nice, but how the hell will it help you when those jack boots come to your door?
Chaz706 on August 6, 2009 at 4:11 PM
Democrats have always been about projection justification. They make themselves believe that Republicans and Conservatives are doing something ill and nefarious, so that makes it okay that they can do it.
Republicans are astro-turfing! So we’re going to astro-turf!
Republicans are inciting a mob! So we’re going to defend by inciting a mob!
The problem is, however, Republicans aren’t. It’s just a projected justification to cover themselves.
Enoxo on August 6, 2009 at 3:21 PM
I do not qusestion your intent, but might not have a working Knowledge of the tactic of which speak. It is an oold tactic, but was perfected by the infamous Clinton “War Room”.
It goes like this, just prior to engaging in to engaging in an action that you really rather not publicized or called on, you issue a statement acusing the other side of doing what you are about to do. Thyis reduces the discourse to the childish realm “But he hit me first!” vs “Nun-ah, did not!” Causing the general public to tune out in disgust and not bother to investigate any further, There-by pre-empting anyone from digging into the action you are about take. From an Atwater-esque point view, it’s beautiful!
What the the Oborgs are doing in the “astro-turf” accusations is a slight variation on the same play. Axelrod who actually coined the phrase and developed the strategy in the rough and tumble world of Chicago politics, polished its finer points in MA in Deval Patrick’s Governor’s race. Having established, with media complicity, the meme of rightwing/Corporate thugs disrupting the will of the people in town-hall formats. He will now use this meme to justify bringing in actual thugs. Again, beautiful!
The enemy is not playing bean-bag people, and they have been refing their this particular “playbook” since Mc Governs defeat after their ’72 debacle. The polls are currently swinging in our direction, and though they are reeling in the ring at the moment, they intend to to use the “recess” as the end the round bell. They will regroup vasilene their face, slip somme washers into their gloves aand come out swinging. Do not let your guard down, round 2 is about to begin!
And yes, I am one of those operatives they warn about.
Archimedes on August 6, 2009 at 4:14 PM
I hope some of these union/acorn thugs gets in my face at a town hall. I will let them provoke and start it and will film it for evidence, and then will show them how we “community organize” in TEXAS! Bring it on bizatches!
ReaganConservative3 on August 6, 2009 at 4:15 PM
ok, enough with the CW talk. As Robert Conquest points out, it just took a couple of brownshirts to change the course of Germany and Russia. Just be cool out there.
joeindc44 on August 6, 2009 at 4:15 PM
I assume by your tag that you attended A&M. Did you take eeconomics while you were there and if so what professor. If you don’t mind my asking.
HoustonRight on August 6, 2009 at 4:10 PM
Yep, I’m a proud Aggie. I did take/day dreamed in several economics classes but it was a long time ago. Therefore, I can’t remember the prof’s names. :)
txag92 on August 6, 2009 at 4:16 PM
I really need to lay off the coffee, slow down and get my typing thing down better! Sorry ’bout the typo’s.
Archimedes on August 6, 2009 at 4:16 PM
Don’t mess with Texas, cause it could start some shootin.
saiga on August 6, 2009 at 4:07 PM
My dad has a rifle that shoots 10 or so different directions with one pull of the trigger. Good times.
txag92 on August 6, 2009 at 4:17 PM
I hope some of these union/acorn thugs gets in my face at a town hall. I will let them provoke and start it and will film it for evidence, and then will show them how we “community organize” in TEXAS! Bring it on bizatches!
ReaganConservative3 on August 6, 2009 at 4:15 PM
AMEN!
txag92 on August 6, 2009 at 4:18 PM
The reason I asked is that my 1st cousin is was a prof there who was also an advisor to Phil Graham
HoustonRight on August 6, 2009 at 4:19 PM
These same dems who are so concerned with having a discussion are the same ones that closed the (R)’s out while it was being written and refused to debate on the house floor when it came for a vote and didn’t allow any amendments to change their bill. Now that doesn’t sound like they are interested in any discussion themselves.
lwssdd on August 6, 2009 at 4:20 PM
The reason I asked is that my 1st cousin is was a prof there who was also an advisor to Phil Graham
HoustonRight on August 6, 2009 at 4:19 PM
How long has your cousin been there? I attended from ’88 – ’92.
txag92 on August 6, 2009 at 4:20 PM
My anger is funded by the Constitution!!!
FontanaConservative on August 6, 2009 at 4:23 PM
I know he was there during that time. He just retired last year I think. Only see him at the reunion each year.
HoustonRight on August 6, 2009 at 4:24 PM
If I had known the link would take me to the huffblow, I would not have clicked on it.
And let the unions come. We have cameras, camcorders, and cell phones. It should be interesting to see if they sit quietly with their hands in their laps like the slaves they are, of if they act like, well, they normally do.
madmonkphotog on August 6, 2009 at 4:28 PM
Ronin, why are you speaking hypothetically? Either you have the courage to take these actions or you dont.
plymouthrick on August 6, 2009 at 4:28 PM
Impeccable timing…funny post….ummmmm it was supposed to be funny wasn’t it?
right2bright on August 6, 2009 at 4:30 PM
I have the permit so I’m bringing my Glock. If they want a war let it begin here. Stand your ground.
bill30097 on August 6, 2009 at 4:31 PM
We don’t see “typos”, we only see content…
right2bright on August 6, 2009 at 4:31 PM
And people question my ‘hate’ of unions.
Let me say it again so there are no doubts:
“I truly truly HATE unions.”
Sapwolf on August 6, 2009 at 4:31 PM
Setting up a speech snitch line. Now sending in the brownshirts and the goons. . . If the Obama Administration is not a totalitarian regime, they deserve an Oscar.
WannabeAnglican on August 6, 2009 at 4:31 PM
Union goons bullying and evicting protesters, this Presidents definition of “robust debate”.
Speakup on August 6, 2009 at 4:32 PM
I want to be clearer, if you dont have the courage to speak out plainly , than you certainly dont have the courage to actually use a gun on anybody.
plymouthrick on August 6, 2009 at 4:32 PM
I would not be surprised if this gets violent.
However, it will be the astroturfing statists of the unions, ACORN, etc. that will start it.
Just be sure if they do, we fight hard and get video of them committing the violence.
Whether a rebellion develops depends on whether they force the Obamacare and start to arrest people or otherwise take away or limit our free speech rights.
Sapwolf on August 6, 2009 at 4:36 PM
right2bright on August 6, 2009 at 4:31 PM
Thanks for the kind words, it is greatly appreciated. However I’ve been taken on as a writer over at PAPundits and occasionally at American Thinker, so the 2-finger method has to go the way of the horse and buggy. Which of of course might make a stunning come back if we get Cap&trade!
Archimedes on August 6, 2009 at 4:36 PM
A thugchucker would chuck as many thugs as a thugchucker could chuck thugs.
cjs1943 on August 6, 2009 at 4:43 PM
As it is, this talk of shooting, fighting etc, is pretty over the top imho.
IN THE REAL WORLD, there is not a new revolution coming, there is a bunch of leftists morons over-reaching and heading for the crash and burn in 2010/12.
Nobody has been beaten up by union thugs, etc. etc. And until they are, it might be helpful to take it down a notch, yeesh.
WitchDoctor on August 6, 2009 at 4:44 PM
I agree WD. Lots of things look bad, but never pan out. It is best to keep your powder dry until there’s an actual fight. Right now, their intent is to intimidate those who are susceptible to intimidation and prevent them from showing up at the town halls. Chances are, if that doesn’t work, they’ll try something else. If they do try to encourage union bully-boys to start cracking heads, chances are they won’t get an enthusiastic response. If they do get an enthusiastic response, then we have something to start drawing weapons over.
Immolate on August 6, 2009 at 4:49 PM
Then we take away the bell. Back the bastards into a neutral corner and beat the heck out of them. Don’t stop, don’t let up, don’t falter. more joker posters, more townhall vocalism, more video then and nows. We need pelosi/reid/obama mad in front of the microphone because when they are the slip up. Nancy McBotox’s nazi comment is worth another couple days of bad press. Harry Reid’s astroturf adds another hundred aarp types to the tea parties. Obama’s snitches will play for a week, and not well for him.
Fighton03 on August 6, 2009 at 4:59 PM
Obama’s War…the “War on the American People”
sdd on August 6, 2009 at 5:02 PM
WD, the donkeys are using bully boy tactics. Think of the play ground. You don’t stop bully’s from threatening you by talking to them reasonably. You stand your ground and say bring it. Don’t waste time posturing it only lets the bully preen and screw up his courage. Cut right to the chase and call them out. As long as it’s in public view, 9 times out of 10 they let there buddies keep them back.
I think we’re just warning people here to be prepared for number 10, and know that people have their back if it goes.
Fighton03 on August 6, 2009 at 5:05 PM
Remember….
Don’t bring a knife to a gun fight.
PappaMac on August 6, 2009 at 5:14 PM
When unions have the only decent non-public option for health-care, that’s just one more reason to unionize. With card check and union thugs breathing down your family’s collective neck, you’d be a fool not to unionize.
More thugocratic Hopenchange for our country.
spmat on August 6, 2009 at 5:14 PM
video tape the union thugs abuses.
then video tape the “Protestors” making citizens arrests.
PappaMac on August 6, 2009 at 5:16 PM
Bring on the Union Thugs, I got access to pipes, wrenches, and pitchforks too.
THE CHOSEN ONE on August 6, 2009 at 5:21 PM
Fighton03 on August 6, 2009 at 4:59 PM
Pretty much my point! Don’t get cocky just yet and keep bringing the pressure to bear!
Archimedes on August 6, 2009 at 5:25 PM
It won’t stop the slaughter of Democrats at the polls in 2010, either. Bye bye, Blue Dogs.
ddrintn on August 6, 2009 at 5:52 PM
http://www.cafepress.com/TheMOBStore
reshas1 on August 6, 2009 at 6:36 PM
Here’s to hoping anybody from any union has the courage to show up here in Montana and try any kind of thuggery tactics. We have been waiting for this day.
Other news: Obama says he’s coming to Montana to help Baucus promote the government take-over of our health care system.
Mr. Baucus and Mr. Obama are in for quite a surprise if that day ever comes. Montana is full of elderly folks, and we take damn good care of them. It would seem that Mr. Baucus doesn’t share our feelings for our elderly based on the contents of his bill; the same would hold true of Mr. Obama.
Keemo on August 6, 2009 at 7:22 PM
This will work out as well as the Rolling Stones hiring the Hells Angeles for security. I wonder if we could call on Rolling Thunder?
Texas on August 6, 2009 at 7:22 PM
The potus has declared war on the working class. The potus is openly promoting confrontation between American citizens. The potus is destroying the reputation of the most powerful position in the world. Mr. Obama has disgraced the White House and the traditions that have been held up by Presidents from both parties for well over two centuries.
This man is not worthy of potus.
Keemo on August 6, 2009 at 7:27 PM
Exactly right, and in the right order.
We are the reasonable ones.
massrighty on August 6, 2009 at 7:32 PM
We’re not a monolith, sport. Conservatives support the rights of others, including the right to bear arms.
We don’t all own guns. But we will all stand up to defend our freedoms.
massrighty on August 6, 2009 at 7:43 PM
txag92 on August 6, 2009 at 4:03 PM
saiga on August 6, 2009 at 4:07 PM
Heavily outnumbered up here in maine (but not outgunned)
please send reinforcements, only so much ammo.
aceinstall on August 6, 2009 at 7:43 PM
As a Michigan man I’m completely aware of how these union boys work. They don’t fight fair. I worked at an auto plant at one point in my life. After I expressed my frustration with co-workers that didn’t work, my boss told me to leave early every day and he would punch me out on the time clock. He didn’t want me getting killed in the parking lot if I got out at the same time as them. They won’t face you if you outnumber them or even have equal numbers. five or six of them will pick someone out and follow them home and then teach them the union way. During the Detroit Free Press strike we lost 3 non-union workers. One to a car bomb and two to beatings. One in his own drive way. If they come out to these meetings in force, let them know times have changed. Get them on video, write down their names if you can get them, write down their License plate numbers. let them know we can keep track too. They are the worst of the worst. They can’t win in a debate because thier average IQ is 20pts less than a republicans so they intimidate. And thier not smart enough to worry about consequences, which is exactly what makes them dangerous.
MichiganMatt on August 6, 2009 at 7:54 PM
Obama won’t be satisfied until one of these Union GOONS kills someone.
If this is his response to your typical American can you imagine what he will do to the Congress critters against him? They had better start wearing bullet proof vests.
DannoJyd on August 6, 2009 at 8:26 PM
Matt:
Same here. My Dad was a mill manager in Louisiana.
There was a strike. About 1am one night we heard the phone ring. Then my dad ran into our room, told us to get up, and
rushed us out to the middle of the street.
It was a bomb threat. At our home!
My twin sister and I were 6. Other girls were 9 and 8.
We were out in that cold street for 6 hours while the bomb squad checked the house.
There were other incidents…flat tires, rocks through windows. But that was the one that stuck with me the most. I was terrified….and soooo angry that they would do that to my Dad.
jeanneb on August 7, 2009 at 12:00 AM
Maybe he and Holden can send in the Black Panthers while they are resting with no current elections
bluegrass on August 7, 2009 at 7:57 AM
Um, no, that is pretty much exactly what Democracy is.
.
It’s why we are a Republic, instead.
BlameAmericaLast on August 7, 2009 at 8:10 AM
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