Quinnipiac poll: 39% of Americans need to inform on 52%

posted at 11:36 am on August 5, 2009 by Ed Morrissey

I’ll bet that Mr. Flag at the White House Snitch Center has a lot of work on his hands this week.  According to Quinnipiac, 52% of American voters are probably passing around “fishy” information about how the White House wants to take over health care, and worry that government will ruin a system that the vast majority of people like and want to keep for themselves.  Sounds like 39% of the people had better get busy on e-mail:

American voters, by a 55 – 35 percent margin, are more worried that Congress will spend too much money and add to the deficit than it will not act to overhaul the health care system, according to a Quinnipiac University national poll released today. By a similar 57 – 37 percent margin, voters say health care reform should be dropped if it adds “significantly” to the deficit.

By a 72 – 21 percent margin, voters do not believe that President Barack Obama will keep his promise to overhaul the health care system without adding to the deficit, the independent Quinnipiac (KWIN-uh-pe-ack) University national poll finds.

American voters disapprove 52 – 39 percent of the way President Obama is handling health care, down from 46 – 42 percent approval July 1, with 60 – 34 percent disapproval from independent voters. Voters say 59 – 36 percent that Congress should not pass health care reform if only Democratic members support it. …

Only 21 percent of voters say the plan will improve the quality of care they receive, while 36 percent say it will hurt their quality of care and 39 percent say it will make no difference.

The big number here is the independents.  Democrats got elected by splitting independents away from the GOP, especially in the 2008 presidential election and the 2006 midterms.  Despite their insistence that opposition to ObamaCare has been cooked up in RNC laboratories and transmitted through people wearing Brooks Brothers suits, the 26-point gap with independents shows that Democrats are alienating the very constituency that keeps them in power.

Voters in the Quinnipiac poll support elements of ObamaCare, but not the cost.  For instance, they support mandates on businesses to supply insurance by a 54%-38% margin, and respondents also like the idea of a public plan by almost a 2-1 margin.  They strongly oppose individual mandates to carry health insurance, 68%-26%, a key part of ObamaCare that achieves universal coverage by making it illegal to be without insurance of some kind.

Obama has more demographic problems than just independents.  Women now oppose Obama on health care issues, 49%-41%, a 17-point swing since July 1st.  Young voters, in this poll defined as 18-34 year olds, oppose Obama on health care 48%-44%, a 23-point swing from their 54%-35% support a month earlier.  Low income voters swung 12 points and now oppose Obama on this issue 47%-43%.  When populism starts failing among the young and the relatively poor, who will buy it at all?

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“You’re a THOUGHT CRIMINAL!”

mojo on August 5, 2009 at 11:38 AM

Can you say…..Tank!

RobD on August 5, 2009 at 11:38 AM

I’m sorry, Ed, but I’m going to have to report this post to the White House Ministry of Information Refutation.

Enoxo on August 5, 2009 at 11:39 AM

When populism starts failing among the young and the relatively poor, who will buy it at all?

the 39% kool-aid drinkers still out there

cmsinaz on August 5, 2009 at 11:40 AM

Looks like the wise-and-thoughtful independents finally pulled their post-racial heads out of their asses.

guntotinglibertarian on August 5, 2009 at 11:40 AM

“GO OUT AND GET IN THEIR FACES.” – Barack Obama

You got it, champ.

American voters, by a 55 – 35 percent margin, are more worried that Congress will spend too much money and add to the deficit than it will not act to overhaul the health care system, according to a Quinnipiac University national poll released today. By a similar 57 – 37 percent margin, voters say health care reform should be dropped if it adds “significantly” to the deficit.

Can you hear us now? Or do we need to get in your face more?

Good Lt on August 5, 2009 at 11:40 AM

With all of these bad-news-for-BHO polls lately, I wouldn’t be surprised if he didn’t enact a 21st century version of the old poll tax.

jgapinoy on August 5, 2009 at 11:41 AM

Women now oppose Obama on health care issues, 49%-41%…Young voters, in this poll defined as 18-34 year olds, oppose Obama on health care 48%-44%

Mr. President, I am willing to do my necessary duty, and so I volunteer to keep my eye on young women.

ChrisB on August 5, 2009 at 11:41 AM

I’m sorry, Ed, but I’m going to have to report this post to the White House Ministry of Information Refutation.

I already did that this morning with the headline post.

But it can’t hurt to do it twice, as there are a lot of ruffians, mob members and extremists that will no doubt see this and think that not everyone in the US is on board with The Leader’s Five-Year Health Care/Insurance Plan.

Good Lt on August 5, 2009 at 11:42 AM

Hey Ed – Brooks Brothers called… they want their clothes back.

BPD on August 5, 2009 at 11:42 AM

What does the well dressed woman where to a town hall?

bloggless on August 5, 2009 at 11:42 AM

Well, obviously the Quinnipiac poll is run by a bunch of racist advocates for the insurance companies that want to fear-monger…

Delaware Vol on August 5, 2009 at 11:42 AM

Mr. President, I am willing to do my necessary duty, and so I volunteer to keep my eye on young women.

ChrisB on August 5, 2009 at 11:41 AM

Did they break it down by bra size?

guntotinglibertarian on August 5, 2009 at 11:43 AM

I am convinced Obamacare will limit how many children you can have. I haven’t found it yet, but I’d bet money it’s in there. It’ll be for the betterment of the planet.

SouthernGent on August 5, 2009 at 11:44 AM

I’m turning myself in to flag@whitehouse.gov.
I suggest the 52% against Obamacare do the same. If you have posted or attended a TEA Party, flood the site with your names. Maybe they will get the hint. Snitches needed by Obama to lean on anyone who participates in protests. How dare Congress force on any citizen what they themselves refuse to join.

elclynn on August 5, 2009 at 11:44 AM

Like I said last night, what will these people do when Obama, Pelosi, and Reid run this through anyway? What will they do…?

Rational Thought on August 5, 2009 at 11:44 AM

Looks like the wise-and-thoughtful independents finally pulled their post-racial heads out of their asses.

guntotinglibertarian on August 5, 2009 at 11:40 AM

But according to DNC strategy and MSNBC analysts and hosts, independents worried about their health care and job security will be kept in the Democrats’ camp because the media will succeed in making the scary Birther movement the face of the Republican party.

ChrisB on August 5, 2009 at 11:44 AM

and respondents also like the idea of a public plan by almost a 2-1 margin

What????

Let’s see: Young people: pay for health insurance (whether you need it or not) or pay a 2% of your income fine.
Middle Aged (middle class): Your taxes are going up a ton, despite what 0 says now (the only time you can believe him is when he talks to the NAACP or DailyKos).
Old Folks: We’ll counsel you to get out of the way every 5 years because you are a drain on our system.

Yeah, sounds like there’s something for everybody in this bill.

Christian Conservative on August 5, 2009 at 11:44 AM

What does the well dressed woman where to a town hall?

bloggless on August 5, 2009 at 11:42 AM

A “I’d Rather be Waterboarding” t-shirt.

guntotinglibertarian on August 5, 2009 at 11:44 AM

campaign promses are one thing, but Bama’s promises on healthcare, challenges to which are met with “gee, I haven’t read the plan” strike a lot closer to home.

The fact is the “facts” about this socialist program are getting out despite the best efforts of its promoters. While the promoters cannot admit to themselves they are wrong (see ‘tea parties, denial reaction”), they are increasing at odds with those they have no respect for and expect to do unquestioningly what their betters tell them to do.

It might not happen.

Harry Schell on August 5, 2009 at 11:44 AM

I bet the Quinnipac Poll would be well dressed if it showed up to a town hall. Despicable.

Enoxo on August 5, 2009 at 11:44 AM

When populism starts failing among the young and the relatively poor, who will buy it at all?

the 39% kool-aid drinkers still out there

cmsinaz on August 5, 2009 at 11:40 AM

I’ve generally thought of this nation as a 40-40-20 nation. 40% Dem, 40% GOP and 20% undecided/independent/moderate. It would seem the Dems have lost that other 20% in a surprisingly big hurry but will it stop them from passing Obamacare and (knee) cap and tax? I wouldn’t be surprised if they ram it through in the dark of the night but I’m hopeful it can be stopped.

Yakko77 on August 5, 2009 at 11:45 AM

SouthernGent on August 5, 2009 at 11:44 AM

They’ll hide it in the tax-code. 1-2 dependents = deduction….3 or more = penalty.

Limerick on August 5, 2009 at 11:45 AM

Where is Liberal343 to tell us that the numbers are lies propagated by Bush “the War Criminal?”

Shock the Monkey on August 5, 2009 at 11:45 AM

This is all too good to be true. I really thought they would give this fight up – it would have saved their skins.

Now I see they are going to go to the mat on this and I couldn’t be more excited. We have an opportunity here to become a great generation if we fight them!

HondaV65 on August 5, 2009 at 11:45 AM

I think O ran for president of the Yewessovay because he couldn’t move to Venezuela and run against his friend, ‘Ugo, as he would have preferred.

TeeDee on August 5, 2009 at 11:45 AM

Mr. President, I am willing to do my necessary duty, and so I volunteer to keep my eye on young women.

ChrisB on August 5, 2009 at 11:41 AM
Did they break it down by bra size?

guntotinglibertarian on August 5, 2009 at 11:43 AM

Actually, now that I think about, Sarkozy and Obama have already got that aspect covered.

ChrisB on August 5, 2009 at 11:46 AM

Ed, as Babs Boxer would say, you just want our “to hurt our president” and “change the Congress.”

Please keep up the good work.

Loxodonta on August 5, 2009 at 11:46 AM

When populism starts failing among the young and the relatively poor, who will buy it at all?

Sounds like it is time for a populist stimulus bill by which I mean the “free” aspects of the filthy liar’s agenda are going to emerge including lifting DADT for the military, repeal of DOMA, and of course- citizenship for all no matter how you got here!

highhopes on August 5, 2009 at 11:46 AM

Our Constitution now sleeps with the fishes.

TexasJew on August 5, 2009 at 11:47 AM

So do I report the Associated Press for confirming ObamaCare DOES pay for abortions and they were lying?

Jeff from WI on August 5, 2009 at 11:47 AM

How dare Congress force on any citizen what they themselves refuse to join.

elclynn on August 5, 2009 at 11:44 AM

That message has to be repeated ad infinitum.

Daggett on August 5, 2009 at 11:48 AM

Do we report the CBO regarding the fact that ObamaCare is far from budget neutral?

Jeff from WI on August 5, 2009 at 11:48 AM

So do I report the Associated Press for confirming ObamaCare DOES pay for abortions and they were lying?

Jeff from WI on August 5, 2009 at 11:47 AM

Yes.

Do we report the CBO regarding the fact that ObamaCare is far from budget neutral?

Jeff from WI on August 5, 2009 at 11:48 AM

And yes.

DO YOUR DUTY, SIR!

Enoxo on August 5, 2009 at 11:49 AM

Their strategy completely baffles me. Do they think demonizing people will make their policies more popular?

Do they believe that their attempt to marginalize the majority of Americans will succeed in doing anything other than reinforce the feeling the people have that Washington is hopelessly out of touch?

Do they truly think that by mocking and deriding the populace, that this will make us something other than more resolved to fight for what we believe in?

powerpro on August 5, 2009 at 11:49 AM

Would responses to the snitches request be subject to FIOA requests?

Not that would-be snitches should feel intimidated by the prospect of being outted….I’m just sayin’…

DamnCat on August 5, 2009 at 11:49 AM

I see. So because independents oppose drowning this country in debt in order to take away our health care choices, the Dems attack them as being dumb stooges for the insurance companies.

pearson on August 5, 2009 at 11:50 AM

Attention: Has everyone sent their sarcastic, Orwellian-themed emails to flag@whitehouse.gov yet? Please keep in mind that they’re due by Friday. I know some of you haven’t been harassing fascist government bureaucrats like you’re supposed to. Don’t make me give out detention slips!

amerpundit on August 5, 2009 at 11:50 AM

Anger is buliding and Obama is tanking.

He has no idea how to complete his Alinsky agenda on this scale. Apparently he is going to keep trying and spending.

ORconservative on August 5, 2009 at 11:51 AM

Attention: Has everyone sent their sarcastic, Orwellian-themed emails to flag@whitehouse.gov yet? Please keep in mind that they’re due by Friday. I know some of you haven’t been harassing fascist government bureaucrats like you’re supposed to. Don’t make me give out detention slips!

amerpundit on August 5, 2009 at 11:50 AM

Damnit, not another 20-page essay! FINE!

Enoxo on August 5, 2009 at 11:51 AM

I wonder how Obama’s home guard force that will parallel the US military is doing? He might find having his own protective squadron very handy, as have other radical socialists that fail miserably and need to keep the unhappy majority under control.

Did GM come out with the Obamawagen yet?

Hening on August 5, 2009 at 11:51 AM

Where is Liberal343 to tell us that the numbers are lies propagated by Bush “the War Criminal?”

Shock the Monkey on August 5, 2009 at 11:45 AM

Still licking her/his wounds from the Russian Submarine thread last night.

Fallen Sparrow on August 5, 2009 at 11:51 AM

Young voters, in this poll defined as 18-34 year olds, oppose Obama on health care 48%-44%, a 23-point swing from their 54%-35% support a month earlier.

The young people are realizing that they will be paying for the rest of their lives for this socialist takeover. Maybe they waking up from the kool-aid induced stupor that they have been in.

farright on August 5, 2009 at 11:51 AM

DamnCat on August 5, 2009 at 11:49 AM

should read “…FOIA requests.”

DamnCat on August 5, 2009 at 11:52 AM

Looks like o is going to have his hands full with us wild and crazy trouble-makers!

ohiobabe on August 5, 2009 at 11:52 AM

I wonder how Obama’s home guard force that will parallel the US military is doing? He might find having his own protective squadron very handy, as have other radical socialists that fail miserably and need to keep the unhappy majority under control.

Did GM come out with the Obamawagen yet?

Hening on August 5, 2009 at 11:51 AM

They’re recruiting right now. Something worth watching.

Fallen Sparrow on August 5, 2009 at 11:53 AM

Why is the GOP, conservatives, democrats, libertarians and all others opposed to this healthcare destruction bill not capitalizing on the fact that the members of the Royal Congress (they have set themselves up as the royal class) have their choice of 17 top of the line – gold plated – health plan choices that they refuse to give up?

Why is their not a unified scream demanding the President and Royal Congress be first to be forced into their “great” and “fair” healthcare bill they deem so great for us peasants?

Certainly they don’t believe themselves irreplaceable or elite and therefore more deserving of a better quality system than us.

Virginia Shanahan on August 5, 2009 at 11:53 AM

Still licking her/his wounds from the Russian Submarine thread last night.

Fallen Sparrow on August 5, 2009 at 11:51 AM

Too bad we couldn’t trade SimpleSimon and Liberal343 for Laura Ling and Euna Lee in North Korea. :)

NathanG on August 5, 2009 at 11:54 AM

Their strategy completely baffles me. Do they think demonizing people will make their policies more popular?

Do they believe that their attempt to marginalize the majority of Americans will succeed in doing anything other than reinforce the feeling the people have that Washington is hopelessly out of touch?

Do they truly think that by mocking and deriding the populace, that this will make us something other than more resolved to fight for what we believe in?

powerpro on August 5, 2009 at 11:49 AM

+100

This is exactly what I thought last night…. I came home from worked, and saw that on MSNBC they were pounding the idea that these protests were artificial…. This is only going to embolden then… Good, honest Americans expressing their disapproval are being demonized… this will make things WORSE for Obama and co.

BPD on August 5, 2009 at 11:54 AM

Where are the ObamaCare trolls? Where’s AnninCA who’s so fond of quoting polls?

PackerBronco on August 5, 2009 at 11:54 AM

Where are the ObamaCare trolls? Where’s AnninCA who’s so fond of quoting polls?

PackerBronco on August 5, 2009 at 11:54 AM

Shh, don’t hurt their feelings.

Enoxo on August 5, 2009 at 11:56 AM

am convinced Obamacare will limit how many children you can have. I haven’t found it yet, but I’d bet money it’s in there. It’ll be for the betterment of the planet.

Unnecessary… they actually only want to limit the number of children of those who would oppose them. They’d like to increase the number of children who they perceive to be future supporters. By taxing the middle class and higher they discourage these groups from having more children.

Chitownmom on August 5, 2009 at 11:56 AM

Where are the ObamaCare trolls? Where’s AnninCA who’s so fond of quoting polls?

PackerBronco on August 5, 2009 at 11:54 AM

That’s what I would like to know…

Chainsaw56 on August 5, 2009 at 11:57 AM

You know what might help the Democrats out of this slide?

How about accusing concerned citizens of being phony astroturfed minions of the insurance industry.

Seriously, I hope they keep doing that.

forest on August 5, 2009 at 11:57 AM

Not to worry, the ‘rats have already declared they intend to shove this HC disaster through regardless of GOP intransigence and voter anger.

You stupid, well-dressed people just don’t understand when something needs to be done for your own good.

Bishop on August 5, 2009 at 11:57 AM

Snitching is what Castro relied on heavily in Cuba. My father and a friend of mine lived there and told me about it. It was called “comite del barrio”. People who would snitch on their neighbors who weren’t sympathetic to Castro, to the government. The snitchers were derided as “chivatos”.

76United on August 5, 2009 at 11:57 AM

18-34 year olds, oppose Obama on health care 48%-44%, a 23-point swing from their 54%-35% support a month earlier

YAY!!!!???

FontanaConservative on August 5, 2009 at 11:58 AM

Can I turn in Dick Durbin now for spreading fishy info about Public “support” for the health control bill?

forest on August 5, 2009 at 11:58 AM

Can I turn in Dick Durbin now for spreading fishy info about Public “support” for the health control bill?

forest on August 5, 2009 at 11:58 AM

Yes! It is your duty to do so!

Enoxo on August 5, 2009 at 11:59 AM

I made it easy for them and turned myself in.

http://nomayo.mu.nu/confessions_of_an_obamacare_opponent

Stephen Macklin on August 5, 2009 at 11:59 AM

farright on August 5, 2009 at 11:51 AM

I have a twenty-five year old son who is uninsured by choice. A very bad choice I will admit. He is really annoyed that being insured might be mandatory. It’s like a twelve year old “You’re not the boss of me” but if it will get him to vote against the Dems I’ll take it.

Cindy Munford on August 5, 2009 at 11:59 AM

Democrats got elected by splitting independents away from the GOP, especially in the 2008 presidential election and the 2006 midterms.

Yes, they wave a shiny object in their faces and the so called independents [snicker] go running.

Blake on August 5, 2009 at 12:00 PM

18-34 year olds, oppose Obama on health care 48%-44%, a 23-point swing from their 54%-35% support a month earlier

The adults are finally getting through to the minds full of mush.

ted c on August 5, 2009 at 12:00 PM

Like I said last night, what will these people do when Obama, Pelosi, and Reid run this through anyway? What will they do…?

Rational Thought on August 5, 2009 at 11:44 AM

They’re finished if they do, BUT they’ll do it anyway and fall on their swords. Maybe they’ll get the timing backward?

marklmail on August 5, 2009 at 12:00 PM

Remember when the liberal idiots were whining about how the government was spying on Americans by using the Patriot Act…you know the anti-terrorist law? Where’s the outrage now that the government is spying on Americans for voicing their opinions…you know…our constitutional right?

orlandocajun on August 5, 2009 at 12:01 PM

“GET OUT AND GET IN THEIR FACES”

I DIDNT KNOW THE PRESIDENT CAN THREATEN CITIZENS BUT CITIZENS ARE ARRESTED FOR THREATENING HIM HUMMMMMMMMMMMMM SOUNDS MARXISTS TO ME

rone5847 on August 5, 2009 at 12:02 PM

sheer awesomeness, no wonder they dont like polls anymore! the split is so large they can no longer hide it

did they use a video phone to see if the people they polled were wearing Brooks Bros suits? Surely that’s the real problem not the asinine policy…lol

ginaswo on August 5, 2009 at 12:02 PM

orlandocajun on August 5, 2009 at 12:01 PM

silly rabbit….double standards abound with the lib idiots

cmsinaz on August 5, 2009 at 12:02 PM

I have a twenty-five year old son who is uninsured by choice. A very bad choice I will admit. He is really annoyed that being insured might be mandatory. It’s like a twelve year old “You’re not the boss of me” but if it will get him to vote against the Dems I’ll take it.

Cindy Munford on August 5, 2009 at 11:59 AM

I encourage you to use his own words in your favor. You want him to BE the boss of him, you WANT him to make his own decisions and when he IS the BOSS of HIM, then HE can make the CHOICES that are right for HIM and the family you want him to have.

Welcome your son to adulthood and get him a HotAir password.

ted c on August 5, 2009 at 12:02 PM

18-34 year olds, oppose Obama on health care 48%-44%, a 23-point swing from their 54%-35% support a month earlier

These idiots finally figured out they will be old some day as well.
That and their parents told them that if ObamaCare passes there
won’t be anything to inherit…..

Once the Obama voters figure out that MOST of them won’t have an inheritance if Obama keeps getting his way – than things should get even more ugly……

izoneguy on August 5, 2009 at 12:02 PM

TOTUS on tv, again just said
WE CANT AFFORD TO RUN A RACE AT HALF SPEED

BWAAAAHAAAAAAAAAAA
ahh man.

ginaswo on August 5, 2009 at 12:02 PM

MY BODY MY CHOICE!

CHOOSE OR LOSE!

*announcer voice* Slogans… they’re not just for mothers killing their own children anymore.

Libtards are getting a dose of free speech and they hate it. On Monday I’m going to don my “Armani” suit and go protest Al Gore at UNLV. My sign?

Al Gore-From $1 million to $100 million in 10 years. Suckers!

Mojave Mark on August 5, 2009 at 12:02 PM

They’ll hide it in the tax-code. 1-2 dependents = deduction….3 or more = penalty.

Limerick on August 5, 2009 at 11:45 AM

Can I keep my third one or do I have to give him back?

TXMomof3 on August 5, 2009 at 12:02 PM

Remember when the liberal idiots were whining about how the government was spying on Americans by using the Patriot Act…you know the anti-terrorist law? Where’s the outrage now that the government is spying on Americans for voicing their opinions…you know…our constitutional right?

orlandocajun on August 5, 2009 at 12:01 PM

I’m sorry, but I’m going to have to report your dissent to the White House Ministry of Information Refutation.

Please pack your belongings and wait by the doo, someone will be by to collect you.

Enoxo on August 5, 2009 at 12:02 PM

Snitching is what Castro relied on heavily in Cuba. My father and a friend of mine lived there and told me about it. It was called “comite del barrio”. People who would snitch on their neighbors who weren’t sympathetic to Castro, to the government. The snitchers were derided as “chivatos”.
76United on August 5, 2009 at 11:57 AM

That’s part of how most Statist regimes maintain their power.

Why doesn’t the resemblance bother the Fauxbama supporters?

Chainsaw56 on August 5, 2009 at 12:03 PM

He has no idea how to complete his Alinsky agenda on this scale. Apparently he is going to keep trying and spending.

ORconservative on August 5, 2009 at 11:51 AM

I’m watching the filthy liar rat bastard traitor in Elkhart, IN. The man is evil. It is clear he’s ticked off that his numbers are in the tank. Lot’s of blaming Bush and of course lie after lie about what the bastard has done to help the “middle class.” The audience is clearly carefully selected union employees.

highhopes on August 5, 2009 at 12:03 PM

Their strategy completely baffles me. Do they think demonizing people will make their policies more popular?

No, they intend to frighten their opponents into silence.

Do they believe that their attempt to marginalize the majority of Americans will succeed in doing anything other than reinforce the feeling the people have that Washington is hopelessly out of touch?

That will work, as people who think DC is hopelessly out of touch tend to feel less inclined to vote.

Do they truly think that by mocking and deriding the populace, that this will make us something other than more resolved to fight for what we believe in?

powerpro on August 5, 2009 at 11:49 AM

They don’t care what the majority wants – they are in control now.

Vashta.Nerada on August 5, 2009 at 12:03 PM

Looking more like Cuba every day! Obama’s Mafioso doesn’t need a majority to rule these states; Not with every body wanting to lay down and make a human walkway for him like the media and all his sycophants.

Cybergeezer on August 5, 2009 at 12:05 PM

WHY DO THE DEMOCRATS DISPISE THE U S MILITAYR AND GUN OWNERSHIP?

ANSWER; BECAUSE THEY KNOW IN TIME BOTH WILL BE USED AGAINST THEM

rone5847 on August 5, 2009 at 12:05 PM

I have a twenty-five year old son who is uninsured by choice. A very bad choice I will admit. He is really annoyed that being insured might be mandatory. It’s like a twelve year old “You’re not the boss of me” but if it will get him to vote against the Dems I’ll take it.

Cindy Munford on August 5, 2009 at 11:59 AM

He won’t be so annoyed when that uninsured illegal alien plows into him on the freeway and causes injuries to him that might run $250,000 or higher…..

You see – here is the big problem….illegals now are really careful (most of them) if illegals are covered under ObamaCare then get ready for a population explosion like you have never seen before – how good is his Spanish?

izoneguy on August 5, 2009 at 12:05 PM

A little talked about benefit of the Goberment program under the Communists that would be in charge is the electronics record keeping under a public plan.
Since everyones records would be in the hands of Big Goberment thus subject to scrutiny by anyone lookin for dirt on Joe the Plumber or Sarah Palin or you or me… I think it only fair that we get a look at the records of Barrack Huissein Obama, Nasty Pelosi, Harry Reid, Barney Frank, Bill Clintoon, John Kerry, John Murtha and anyone else votin for ObamaScare!
I work in insurance and currently it is very difficult to access medical records even in the event of a death claim settlement.
I doubt Big Goberment will be so careful especially a Goberment that advocates snitching on your neighbor if he isn’t votin the way you want him to.

dhunter on August 5, 2009 at 12:05 PM

just wait till the economic update is released (on Labor Day to lessen the impact probably) and the debt is recalculated to nearly double vs. earlier WH predictions.

health care reform goes ‘toes up’ the next week.

DrW on August 5, 2009 at 12:06 PM

TOTUS on tv, again just said
WE CANT AFFORD TO RUN A RACE AT HALF SPEED

But he is racing us full speed towards economic oblivion.

ChrisB on August 5, 2009 at 12:06 PM

There’s an angry community organizer in the White House today…

d1carter on August 5, 2009 at 12:06 PM

TOTUS on tv, again just said
WE CANT AFFORD TO RUN A RACE AT HALF SPEED

BWAAAAHAAAAAAAAAAA
ahh man.

ginaswo on August 5, 2009 at 12:02 PM

I just had to turn it off. There is just so much of the rat bastard traitor filthy liar I can take and this self-indulgent pack of lies defending everything from his failed stimulus plan to his raiding the auto and banking industry to his desire to nationalize healthcare….. the high level indicator on my BS alarm went off.

highhopes on August 5, 2009 at 12:06 PM

Looks like someone reported Press Secretary Gibbs to the White House Ministry of Information Refutation… he’s walking back his comment about Dinnerjacket being the elected leader.

Enoxo on August 5, 2009 at 12:06 PM

Mr Flag’s inbox should be flooded with links back to the Kos Kidz.

bloviator on August 5, 2009 at 12:07 PM

WHY DO THE DEMOCRATS DISPISE THE U S MILITAYR AND GUN OWNERSHIP?

ANSWER; BECAUSE THEY KNOW IN TIME BOTH WILL BE USED AGAINST THEM

rone5847 on August 5, 2009 at 12:05 PM

And it is getting closer than the democrats think

izoneguy on August 5, 2009 at 12:07 PM

TOTUS on tv, again just said
WE CANT AFFORD TO RUN A RACE AT HALF SPEED

has our esteemed el presidente ever read the story of the turtle and the hare?

there is a good bugs bunny cartoon if he would prefer an illustrated example of this story.

DrW on August 5, 2009 at 12:07 PM

It is clear he’s ticked off that his numbers are in the tank. Lot’s of blaming Bush and of course lie after lie about what the bastard has done to help the “middle class.” The audience is clearly carefully selected union employees.

highhopes on August 5, 2009 at 12:03 PM

Now, every time he appears on TV, the favorability of anything he’s promoting declines. I just wish Cash for Clunkers was in bigger trouble – than maybe he’d hold another primetime press conference and bury it for good.

ChrisB on August 5, 2009 at 12:08 PM

52% of American voters are probably passing around “fishy” information

Yes. But how are they dressed?

lorien1973 on August 5, 2009 at 12:08 PM

Mr Flag’s inbox should be flooded with links back to the Kos Kidz.

bloviator on August 5, 2009 at 12:07 PM

Just send them a 4 meg size file of the “Obama -Joker socialism” pic…
Crash the servers

izoneguy on August 5, 2009 at 12:08 PM

But he is racing us full speed towards economic oblivion.

ChrisB on August 5, 2009 at 12:06 PM

That was sorta the filthy liar’s point. He’s arguing that all this haste to spend trillions is necessary because of the pace of the world these days. He’s suggesting, like many in his corrupt party, that reading and discussing the legislation just slows the process down and should be discouraged. The truly sad part is the audience of morons is buying it.

highhopes on August 5, 2009 at 12:09 PM

52% of American voters are probably passing around “fishy” information

Yes. But how are they dressed?

lorien1973 on August 5, 2009 at 12:08 PM

Hmmmmm, maybe we can show up naked – smelling like fish to the townhalls……..

izoneguy on August 5, 2009 at 12:09 PM

Just send them a 4 meg size file of the “Obama -Joker socialism” pic…
Crash the servers

izoneguy on August 5, 2009 at 12:08 PM

+1

:-)

cmsinaz on August 5, 2009 at 12:10 PM

I just reported Barney Frank for saying the Public Option was the best way to get to single payer.

Stephen Macklin on August 5, 2009 at 12:11 PM

Now, every time he appears on TV, the favorability of anything he’s promoting declines.
ChrisB on August 5, 2009 at 12:08 PM

The filthy liar will be in Virginia this week campaigning for Deeds, who is lagging behind in the polls by double digits in large part because of the filthy liar’s scheme to nationalize healthcare. It will be interesting to see if there is an Obama bounce out of the event or an Obama free fall into the pits of oblivion.

highhopes on August 5, 2009 at 12:12 PM

Just send them a 4 meg size file of the “Obama -Joker socialism” pic…
Crash the servers

izoneguy on August 5, 2009 at 12:08 PM

Yes. Please ask them why they’re a bunch of capitalists. And tell them if they don’t refute their ways, you’ll report them to them.

Enoxo on August 5, 2009 at 12:12 PM

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