Cap-and-trade dead now, too?
posted at 4:07 pm on August 5, 2009 by Ed Morrissey
Last week, word leaked out of the Beltway that Card Check would get punted from the 2009 calendar because of the difficulties Democrats had encountered on health-care reform and energy policy. Now Politico reports that cap-and-trade will be off the agenda as well. The arm-twisting required for ObamaCare means that the White House will have no political capital for any other fights that could split the party:
With the fight over health care reform absorbing all the bandwidth on Capitol Hill, Democrats fear a major climate change bill may be left on the cutting-room floor this year.
A handful of key senators on climate change are almost guaranteed to be tied up well into the fall on health care. Democrats from the Midwest and the South are resistant to a cap-and-trade proposal. And few if any Republicans are jumping in to help push a global warming and energy initiative.
As a result, many Democrats fear the lack of political will and the congressional calendar will conspire to punt climate change into next year.
“The reality is [the health reform bill] is going to happen before cap and trade,” said House Agriculture Committee Chairman Rep. Collin Peterson, who’s been working with farm-state senators on the climate legislation. “Who knows if it will ever come out of the Senate?”
Who, indeed? In fact, cap-and-trade is a bigger political problem than health-care reform. A handful of Republican Senators would like to help craft a health-care reform package that doesn’t result in government crowding out private insurance, and it presents no particular regional political issues. Despite this, Democrats remain at odds with each other as Obama and his allies press for radical changes that have little support back home.
On cap-and-trade, Rust Belt Democrats will have a hard time supporting the demolition of their economies back home while trying to keep their seats. Robert Byrd has already announced his opposition, and more will follow suit once this comes to the floor. The Obama administration will have to fight Democrats again to get this passed, and with health-care reform an already massively expensive proposition, they may not have the stomach for a loss.
That means, for all practical purposes, it won’t get considered at all. No one will want to propose the kind of fee increases a cap-and-trade system means in an election year. By 2011, Republicans will have made gains in the House and Senate, thanks to a series of overreaches and failures from Obama and Congressional leadership, and Democrats won’t have the votes to move them. If they don’t get back on the 2009 agenda, they’re likely dead.










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There is a God
Vashta.Nerada on August 5, 2009 at 4:07 PM
Ed, do not get my hopes up!
SouthernGent on August 5, 2009 at 4:09 PM
We need a third party!
The Dems need to split in two.
mankai on August 5, 2009 at 4:09 PM
Those Huge gulfstreams sent the bill to the grave.
(shovel ready grave yard)
Carbon is in.
seven on August 5, 2009 at 4:09 PM
The white house should have their own brand of washer. Doesn’t clean, but one hell of a spin cycle.
JusDreamin on August 5, 2009 at 4:09 PM
If either Crap-and-BeTrayed or ObamaCare dies, we better get a visit from His Majesty.
MadisonConservative on August 5, 2009 at 4:09 PM
Slow down…
mankai on August 5, 2009 at 4:09 PM
I’ll believe it when I see it.
Never count on a fanatical communist giving up.
jukin on August 5, 2009 at 4:11 PM
Bury it. That is a shovel-ready project.
ICBM on August 5, 2009 at 4:11 PM
Breaking: Democrat party in shambles. Left wing nuts not moderating enough.
/headlines you’ll never see
SouthernGent on August 5, 2009 at 4:11 PM
Keep praying and flooding their offices with calls.
OmahaConservative on August 5, 2009 at 4:12 PM
When you reach out to independents and moderates in order to win majorities in the house and senate, you make a deal with the devil. that deal has now come due.
which is worse…winning control of the congress but being unable to pass any legislation due to schisms in your own party, or being the party out of power who gets to snipe at your every failure?
DrW on August 5, 2009 at 4:12 PM
I blame this on Sarah Palin.
BPD on August 5, 2009 at 4:12 PM
I’d say poke the carcass, but look what happens when they do that to Helen Thomas.
Upstater85 on August 5, 2009 at 4:12 PM
.
Laying off workers and closing factories cut the CO2 output,. Carbon programs can be deferreed for a time.
seven on August 5, 2009 at 4:12 PM
Implosion…
Conservatives and naysayers aren’t going to destroy Obama’s ‘presidency’. He and his Dem cohorts are going to do it themselves.
I, for one, love it!
Liam on August 5, 2009 at 4:12 PM
Politico is a Democrat Rag that is hiding their agenda. DO NOT LET THIS FALL OFF THE RADAR SCREEN. This article is a smoke screen to get this lousy bill passed. If Cap and Trade passes it will have a huge impact on the average American’s cost of heating and electricity. Do not let this bill pass the senate, be vigilant.
Agent of the Cross on August 5, 2009 at 4:12 PM
That is very good news indeed. There is “Hope”. Wtg “mobs” “Yes We Can!”
Ozprey on August 5, 2009 at 4:13 PM
Oh, GOODY!!!
tree hugging sister on August 5, 2009 at 4:13 PM
I blame it on Sarah Palin’s secret lover, George W. Bush.
Daggett on August 5, 2009 at 4:13 PM
Related Headline: Freddy and Jason Also Dead, Whew.
LibTired on August 5, 2009 at 4:14 PM
No kneecap and no trade bill….aw shucks…
CMonster on August 5, 2009 at 4:14 PM
Obama is quickly becoming a shovel ready project.
Pelayo on August 5, 2009 at 4:14 PM
If we can get them to a health care “reform” bill that gives nationwide insurance and tax credits to pay for that insurance *and NO GOVERNMENT CONTROL* (other than the normal regulatory stuff) I’d sign up in a minute.
Skywise on August 5, 2009 at 4:15 PM
Be still my heart.
Jaibones on August 5, 2009 at 4:15 PM
By the way… Obamacare takes care of the CO2 ‘problem’ the Dems want to address… population reduction will reduce CO2.
BPD on August 5, 2009 at 4:15 PM
Thread Comment of the Day.
bluelightbrigade on August 5, 2009 at 4:15 PM
lol
Disturb the Universe on August 5, 2009 at 4:15 PM
I don’t trust these people. All I know is that every day for the next three and half years, every sane and thinking citizen needs to keep pressure on their representatives. It’s a dirty job, but it’s mandatory.
sherry on August 5, 2009 at 4:15 PM
Eeew…
“heh heh heh”
“Oh golly”
“heh heh heh”
“Oh golly”
“heh heh heh… get me Condi!”
:)
Skywise on August 5, 2009 at 4:16 PM
Stake, meet heart!
(I’ve been watching too many vampire shows lately…)
Bruno Strozek on August 5, 2009 at 4:16 PM
Hit them harder. Hit them faster. But most of all, keep hitting them!
Enoxo on August 5, 2009 at 4:17 PM
Reid is now delaying Cash-4-Clunker vote until Saturday.
Enoxo on August 5, 2009 at 4:17 PM
Stop teasing me
NickelAndDime on August 5, 2009 at 4:17 PM
Dude.
Esthier on August 5, 2009 at 4:17 PM
Well, I have to say, if ObamaCare is the price of killing Cap and Trade, I think it’s a good deal. Killing both off would be much better, but as bad as Obamacare could be, it wouldn’t put the US at a competitive disadvantage with the rest of the world for years to come.
JohnGalt23 on August 5, 2009 at 4:19 PM
Sometimes it feels good to be out of power.
Esthier on August 5, 2009 at 4:19 PM
OT: The new meme appears to be not only to attack the rich and greedy insurance companies but also those EVIL Americans who will not go along with progress and what most of America really wants.
The Community Organizer in Chief is putting us in the fight of our life. The next election will be fraught with even more fraud and corruption because now they have the reigns of power. We need BIG help for the next election. Votes alone aren’t going to do it.
Terri on August 5, 2009 at 4:19 PM
Especially when there’s no one left to defend ;)
Upstater85 on August 5, 2009 at 4:19 PM
So articulate.
Disturb the Universe on August 5, 2009 at 4:20 PM
Takes time for the bribe checks to clear, and he hopes people will be out picnicking instead of paying attention.
Vashta.Nerada on August 5, 2009 at 4:20 PM
Why is it when you say “dead”–that all’s I can think of is a fish…?
ted c on August 5, 2009 at 4:20 PM
Let’s give Sarah a breather and just leave her out of these for a while.
Jeff from WI on August 5, 2009 at 4:20 PM
This is Obama telling the Democrats that he’s removing all pressure from them after they vote for his Single-Payer health plan.
Basically – he’s burning the rest of his agenda to get ObamaCare through.
This says just what dire straights he’s in right now.
HondaV65 on August 5, 2009 at 4:21 PM
+1. Keep up the pressure. Just don’t wear your Brooks Bros. suit while doing so.
Christian Conservative on August 5, 2009 at 4:21 PM
Ed, are you trying to destroy Obama’s Presidency?
faraway on August 5, 2009 at 4:22 PM
Can’t we just kill both? Seriously, I think they are going to sacrifice crap and tax to try and get socialized medicine, and since the majority are outraged at the medicine bill, it may collapse, and we may be able to dodge two bullets.
Vashta.Nerada on August 5, 2009 at 4:23 PM
Hope you’re right, Ed. Two years is a long time in politics and plenty of time for the Republicans to shoot themselves in the foot (what’s left of it).
batter on August 5, 2009 at 4:23 PM
Majority in the House….
Majority in the Senate….
The Won in the White House….
and diddly squat to show for it, except Freedom and Liberty rearing their beautiful heads…..
Hmmm….
ted c on August 5, 2009 at 4:23 PM
Obama’s doing fine on that by himself…
Ozprey on August 5, 2009 at 4:23 PM
ObamaCare would be worse. Cap and trade could be ended the week that Republicans take control of Congress, especially if the cost impact has become widely felt. It would be a clear Dem catastrophe that has to be fixed.
Once ObamaCare is in place, the insurance companies will wither on the vine leaving few immediate options, and the sheeple will feel entitled to “free” health care, as bad as it might be. It would be like trying to repeal Social Security.
Cicero43 on August 5, 2009 at 4:24 PM
You forgot a couple hundred thousand automobile carcasses, that junk dealers don’t even want.
Vashta.Nerada on August 5, 2009 at 4:24 PM
What? If we don’t kill off ObamaCare, ObamaCare will kill US off.
BPD on August 5, 2009 at 4:24 PM
But of course all his failures will be all our faults.
Ozprey on August 5, 2009 at 4:25 PM
I love this chaos. Democrats are beginning to discover that most Americans really don’t want to be force-fed Democratic castoroil.
BuckeyeSam on August 5, 2009 at 4:25 PM
That halo is tarting to slip down around the neck Barry.
Don’t choke on all your far-left wet dreams. I’d be heart broken.
portlandon on August 5, 2009 at 4:25 PM
still waiting for all the pundits and political strategists on TV to tell the Democrats to moderate
BPD on August 5, 2009 at 4:26 PM
C&T will be back (there’s a pun in there, BTW, tho I didn’t plan it that way). You can bet your bottom dollar on it and, before the gubmint taxes it, you might want to consider making that bet.
One bad thing doesn’t exclude others the Dems have waiting in the wings. I say to stop them ALL.
Liam on August 5, 2009 at 4:26 PM
Never forget the “swamp thing” principle.
In horror movies, the good guys kill the swamp thing and congratulate themselves on surviving, maybe break out a couple of brewski’s.
The the supposedly dead thing rises up out of the swamp and disembowels one of the good guys (usually not the hot chick in the wet tank top).
They kill the swamp thing again, but…
guntotinglibertarian on August 5, 2009 at 4:26 PM
It kind of does. As long as you don’t think about the deficits.
BadgerHawk on August 5, 2009 at 4:26 PM
I hope he fails.
lorien1973 on August 5, 2009 at 4:26 PM
Anyone:
Tell me who it was who first characterized the crap Cash/Clunker debacle as “Here’s your $4,500 discount for a new car, Mr. Douchebag, and here’s the bill for $4,500 plus 20 years of interest for your 3 year old daughter.”
That person needs to take a deep bow.
Jaibones on August 5, 2009 at 4:27 PM
One day at a time.
Yes, Barry & Company are slaughtering the economy and reshaping America as we know it, but that doesn’t mean that Republicans will gain any leverage in 2010.
VibrioCocci on August 5, 2009 at 4:27 PM
“If they don’t get back on the 2009 agenda, they’re likely dead.”
I think that too.
On the other hand, I thought: no way will people vote for BHO, since he so obviously hates what this country stands for.
WitchDoctor on August 5, 2009 at 4:28 PM
I can’t see socialized medicine passing. Too many moderates think it goes too far, and too many liberals don’t think it goes far enough. It couldn’t pass under the current congress so far, while crap and tax did in the senate. I’d rather they try to pass something most Americans vocally don’t want than something they largely ignored so far.
Vashta.Nerada on August 5, 2009 at 4:28 PM
He’s failing.
Hope has come through.
MadisonConservative on August 5, 2009 at 4:28 PM
They will have to administer mass vaccinations to protect us all from the wave of Schadenfreude that faces us this fall.
Ozprey on August 5, 2009 at 4:28 PM
I think you’re giving up too early.
And when they keep bringing up Bush as though he’s still in power, as though I have an invested interest in defending him.
Esthier on August 5, 2009 at 4:28 PM
The only thing Obama spends faster than our tax dollars his political capital.
Scrappy on August 5, 2009 at 4:29 PM
The what?
Esthier on August 5, 2009 at 4:30 PM
He used it all up spending six months picking a dog.
Enoxo on August 5, 2009 at 4:30 PM
Yeah, I couldn’t have said that better. Do I have a sign on me that says “Bush Apologist?” Heck, do I have one that says “Palin Apologist?” Just because the left worshiped at the feet of Obama, doesn’t mean I’m planning on joining a cult any time soon.
Upstater85 on August 5, 2009 at 4:31 PM
There should be a movie about Robert Byrd called “The Mummy IV, Curse of the Klan”.
Has anyone told him yet that the POTUS is Black?
Hening on August 5, 2009 at 4:32 PM
Until there are some checks, and balances brought back to Capital Hill, I won’t put the cart before the horse just yet, but prayer works. PRAY!!!
capejasmine on August 5, 2009 at 4:33 PM
Me, too. And rides off into ignominy as another one-term Democrap disaster.
[And speaking of his post-White House future, it could be grim. I was listening to Medved yesterday, and he had a guy on who wrote a tell-all Secret Service Guy book, talking about the Presidents and their foibles and relationships with the Secret Service agents who protect their lives.
He says O'Bozo lies about the cigarettes and continues to smoke 'em when he's got 'em, to the tune of multiple packs a day. He said "several" but that's probably not possible.]
Jaibones on August 5, 2009 at 4:33 PM
That’s exactly it. It’s projection.
I had someone argue that Obama’s deficits are no worse than Bush’s. After pointing out how factually incorrect that was (I mean, when you quadruple something, you can’t then argue you haven’t dramatically increased it), I then proceeded to explain that I never supported his out of control spending either.
Doesn’t seem to help me with those people.
Esthier on August 5, 2009 at 4:34 PM
Let’s still be vigilant guys and gals… The Democratic M.O. is fraud and deceit to achieve there goals… DO NOT put it past them to package Cap and Tax into some bill about some military appropriations bill or some BS like that… I don’t trust this Democratic leadership at all!!!
Delaware Vol on August 5, 2009 at 4:34 PM
Somebody needs to start bringing VOTER REGISTRATION FORMS to the town hall meetings. Set up the registration tables right in front so that EVERYBODY can see what is happening.
Khun Joe on August 5, 2009 at 4:35 PM
I wouldn’t get my hopes up. This assumes democrats are rational. If they were rational, they wouldn’t believe in this crap to begin with.
xblade on August 5, 2009 at 4:36 PM
Prayer is good, but VOTING gets their attention… Especially when they lose in a primary election!!
Khun Joe on August 5, 2009 at 4:38 PM
Heh-heh. Nice job Pelosi. You burn a bunch of blue dog dems for a bill that won’t even get past the senate. So the blue dogs own those votes and for NOTHING.
PackerBronco on August 5, 2009 at 4:38 PM
Agreed, but what it also says is he is willing to draw a line in the sand and he will not “go Clinton” and move to the middle in an effort to win reelection. Either he feels confident that the public will forget and forgive the enactment of Obamacare by 2012, or he cares so much about getting Obamacare passed that he is willing to risk being a one-termer (like LBJ).
txmomof6 on August 5, 2009 at 4:40 PM
I have an eerie feeling that President Obama is going to get his crap together during the recess, mobilize his left wing army and turn the polls around. I won’t be happy until we make it to an election cycle.
BadgerHawk on August 5, 2009 at 4:40 PM
You made the mistake of confusing the issue with facts, and libs are confused from the get-go. Please don’t feel bad. They can’t help themselves.
Liam on August 5, 2009 at 4:40 PM
Heh.
BadgerHawk on August 5, 2009 at 4:42 PM
Obama did it wrong IMHO. He has a chance of handing us big gains in 2010 and possibly more gains in 2012 (one termer).
What he could’ve done is passed piddling legislation now until 2010. Without all these craptastic bills around Donk necks the Democrats may have gained seats or at least not have lossed as heavily. Then he passes these craptastic bills. In 2012 with him drawing people to the polls to vote Donks would be in a better position, with another 4 years of democrat dominance…
Pelayo on August 5, 2009 at 4:45 PM
Ed’s an optimist. I require more evidence before anticipating electoral gains.
TheUnrepentantGeek on August 5, 2009 at 4:47 PM
Obama’s learning the old adage “When you’re up to your ass in alligators, it’s hard to remember you came to drain the swamp.”
Patrick S on August 5, 2009 at 4:47 PM
Ha Ha down the ole crapper!
sonnyspats1 on August 5, 2009 at 4:48 PM
Very true. We have Republicans who can screw up in six months time too.
Patrick S on August 5, 2009 at 4:49 PM
If we can stop cap and tax and obamacare, we can then ride it out until 2010.
Yes we can.
wildcat84 on August 5, 2009 at 4:49 PM
Thank God.
Griz on August 5, 2009 at 4:51 PM
Thanks. Now I have to mop my keyboard.
MadisonConservative on August 5, 2009 at 4:51 PM
Yes, Claire, hard stuff is hard. It’s even harder when you go out of your way to work against the best interests of the country and your consituents while doing hard stuff.
Yeah, hard stuff is bad.
What an idiot. We are truly led by a bunch of Kelly Bundys.
JoeinTX on August 5, 2009 at 4:51 PM
Reality bites.
rockmom on August 5, 2009 at 4:53 PM
You have to wonder when the state-run media are finally going to crack and start telling the truth about what a colossal f***up this President is turning out to be. He blew all of his promises for transparency and kicking out the lobbyists before nightfall of his Inauguration Day, he punted his economic program to Nancy Pelosi and it is failing, his health care initiative is in deep kimchi, and now his major climate change bill is dead.
rockmom on August 5, 2009 at 4:56 PM
Obama FAIL!
29Victor on August 5, 2009 at 4:57 PM
Yes we FAIL!
29Victor on August 5, 2009 at 4:57 PM
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