Great news: Russian attack subs spotted off east coast of U.S.

posted at 9:55 pm on August 4, 2009 by Allahpundit

You know what this calls for? An Obama speech in Red Square about the common humanity that unites us in a struggle for blah blah blah blah.

But the collapse of the Soviet Union all but eliminated the ability of the Russian Navy to operate far from home ports, making the current submarine patrols thousands of miles from Russia even more surprising for military officials and defense policy experts.

“I don’t think they’ve put two first-line nuclear subs off the U.S. coast in about 15 years,” said Norman Polmar, a naval historian and expert on submarine warfare…

The submarine patrols come as Moscow tries to shake off the embarrassment of the latest failed test of the Bulava missile, a long-range weapon that was test fired from a submarine in the Arctic on July 15. The failed missile test was the sixth since 2005, and some experts see Russia’s assertiveness elsewhere as a gambit by the military to prove its continued relevance…

While the submarines had not taken any provocative action beyond their presence outside territorial waters of the United States, officials expressed wariness over the Kremlin’s motivation for ordering such an unusual mission.

“Any time the Russian Navy does something so out of the ordinary it is cause for worry,” said a senior Defense Department official who has been monitoring reports on the submarines’ activities.

A few possibilities off the top of my head for What This Might Mean in addition to the NYT’s “Bulava missile” theory. (1) Russia wants to see how much The One will let them get away with, just as Biden predicted would happen last year. (2) Russia’s pissed at Biden for his crack a few weeks ago about their economy “withering” and is flexing some muscle in response. (3) Russia’s looking to expand its presence in the western hemisphere more generally, which explains its naval exercises with Venezuela in December. (4) Russia’s gearing up to make another move on Georgia and is putting The One on notice that they’re not to be trifled with when they do. (5) Russia’s got a fee-vah and the only prescription is more bare-chested Putin photos, and a display of military strength in America’s backyard makes for nice optics on the front page tomorrow next to Vlad’s pecs. You’re free to vote for more than one theory — they’re hardly mutually exclusive — but as of right now I’m leaning towards number 4.


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You know what this calls for? An Obama speech in Red Square about the common humanity that unites us in a struggle for blah blah blah blah.

Ha. Nice.

Weight of Glory on August 4, 2009 at 9:57 PM

But Putin really really likes Obama, right?

coldwarrior on August 4, 2009 at 9:57 PM

Did they have “overcharged” painted on their sides? Maybe it’s just a diplomatic gift?

progressoverpeace on August 4, 2009 at 9:57 PM

East coast? That is good news.

Marcus on August 4, 2009 at 9:57 PM

And the wolves circle their meal…

Claypigeon on August 4, 2009 at 9:58 PM

Option one’s the most plausible. Either way I don’t think this is too big a deal. And Putin was soooo puffing his chest out in that photo.

BadgerHawk on August 4, 2009 at 9:58 PM

damn, i thought NK was going to wipe Nancy Pelosi right out of SF. now i have to worry that putin is going to nuke charlie rangel & chuckie schumer.

kelley in virginia on August 4, 2009 at 9:59 PM

Russian navy is a joke. That all you need to know

liberal343 on August 4, 2009 at 9:59 PM

I guess we know what the misspelled reset button does- takes us back to 1978.

highhopes on August 4, 2009 at 9:59 PM

Marcus on August 4, 2009 at 9:57 PM

Hey, come on!!

LOL

D2Boston on August 4, 2009 at 9:59 PM

I read this an hour ago and just about crapped my panties. I vote #4.

I also vote #6. Putin is a man’s man (unlike Obama) and damn sexy. He’s also terrifying (like Obama).

Monica on August 4, 2009 at 9:59 PM

Baluva? Is that MegMac’s new name?

Upstater85 on August 4, 2009 at 9:59 PM

East Coast! Those people didn’t even vote for Putin!

jamie gumm on August 4, 2009 at 10:00 PM

Russian navy is a joke. That all you need to know

liberal343 on August 4, 2009 at 9:59 PM

Russian navy has nukes. Joke over.

highhopes on August 4, 2009 at 10:00 PM

Russia’s gearing up to make another move on Georgia and is putting The One on notice that they’re not to be trifled with when they do.

Allah, if you’re correct, I hope that the Georgia that the Russians are eying is the one in that used to be part of the Soviet Union. Obama would probably give up Atlanta as part of a peace deal.

Cicero43 on August 4, 2009 at 10:00 PM

Russia wants to see how much The One will let them get away with …

Close. It’s more like “Here’s our subs, tough guy, whatcha gonna do ’bout it?”

Tony737 on August 4, 2009 at 10:00 PM

Any one that thinks we’re not parked off their shores is out of their mind, too.

Good reason to keep our military budgets up. I heard it creates high paying jobs.

Punditpawn on August 4, 2009 at 10:00 PM

Russian navy is a joke. That all you need to know

liberal343 on August 4, 2009 at 9:59 PM

Gather ’round the camp fire, kiddies.

Uncle Liberal343 has a story to tell.

Upstater85 on August 4, 2009 at 10:00 PM

Bush sat back and did nothing when bombs were raining in Georgia. Another hit piece on Obama EPIC FAIL

liberal343 on August 4, 2009 at 10:00 PM

Who’s moobs are bigger?

Upstater85 on August 4, 2009 at 10:00 PM

coldwarrior,

What’s your take on this?

INC on August 4, 2009 at 10:01 PM

Maybe it should head for and threaten Maine. The state’s Senators could grieve and ponder for days whether they would oppose that.

Marcus on August 4, 2009 at 10:01 PM

Where’s George W. Bush when you need him?

Christian Conservative on August 4, 2009 at 10:01 PM

Bush sat back and did nothing when bombs were raining in Georgia. Another hit piece on Obama EPIC FAIL

liberal343 on August 4, 2009 at 10:00 PM

Bush also looked into his soul… just thought you might want to get that off your chest too…

Upstater85 on August 4, 2009 at 10:01 PM

What makes this even better? Russia is set to hold a joint naval maneuver with Iran

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1248277919369&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull

Ah, hope and change.

RightWinged on August 4, 2009 at 10:02 PM

I vote on the cause just like Obama does, “present.”

Neo on August 4, 2009 at 10:02 PM

When the Chinese tried to harass our Navy ships Obama ordered warships to the scene. The Chinese backed down like chickens

liberal343 on August 4, 2009 at 10:02 PM

Where’s the poll?

Matushka on August 4, 2009 at 10:02 PM

Step up.

blatantblue on August 4, 2009 at 10:02 PM

Were are our subs?! Don’t tell me they are hitting Club USA in Guam up right now!

Rightwingguy on August 4, 2009 at 10:03 PM

Bush also looked into his soul… just thought you might want to get that off your chest too…

Upstater85 on August 4, 2009 at 10:01 PM

yea that too. Bush saw the soul of Putin. What a joke W is

liberal343 on August 4, 2009 at 10:03 PM

Correction: “Here’s our subs, tough guy, whatcha gonna do ’bout it, Bee-otch? Didn’t THINK so, punk.”

Tony737 on August 4, 2009 at 10:03 PM

Great post. I think #4 also with a dash of #1

Spirit of 1776 on August 4, 2009 at 10:03 PM

Simple explanation:

Russians think Ogabe is a pu**y and they just delight in rubbing it in.

Take a look at this: http://massbackwards.blogspot.com/2009/07/obama-snubbed-by-russian-pols.html

guntotinglibertarian on August 4, 2009 at 10:04 PM

Just so long as they stay out of the Gulf of Mexico

atxcowgirl on August 4, 2009 at 10:04 PM

liberal343 on August 4, 2009 at 9:59 PM

Oh good, you work for the NSA? Or is it the CIA? Because I REALLY want to know where the heck you are getting your intel. “Curveball” maybe? (/sarc)

Rightwingguy on August 4, 2009 at 10:05 PM

Quick! Michelle! Cover my bunghole!

/Obama

Nobody else is going to cover his ass.. well, except the MSM. I can hear it now: “We have a situation, but it’s covered. Up. By Keith, Katie and Chris. Dontcha all feel better now? How bout a nice cup of ramen noodles.

Key West Reader on August 4, 2009 at 10:05 PM

Maybe they were wanted to stop for a photo op near the Statue of Liberty.

VibrioCocci on August 4, 2009 at 10:05 PM

yea that too. Bush saw the soul of Putin. What a joke W is

liberal343 on August 4, 2009 at 10:03 PM

You’re right. I can’t wait until the 2008 election when we can finally get rid of him, and the adults can be in charge.

Weight of Glory on August 4, 2009 at 10:05 PM

blah blah blah rattle rattle rattle blah blah blah..

I’m sorry, I must go…Obarfy is giving another speech…

ladyingray on August 4, 2009 at 10:05 PM

These Akula-class subs will not nuke the East Coast. What they will do is spot, trail and otherwise hazard the operations of our attack subs and boomers coming out of Kings Bay, Norfolk, and Groton or perform ELINT and SIGINT missions all along the East Coast.

coldwarrior on August 4, 2009 at 10:05 PM

When the Chinese tried to harass our Navy ships Obama ordered warships to the scene. The Chinese backed down like chickens

liberal343 on August 4, 2009 at 10:02 PM

Really? The Chinese are afraid of Obama? Really? Hmm… That’s not what some of them told me…

Upstater85 on August 4, 2009 at 10:05 PM

Say all you want about Putin, at least he is playing for his team to win.

jukin on August 4, 2009 at 10:06 PM

*Paging James Monroe*

SouthernGent on August 4, 2009 at 10:06 PM

I think Russia wants an apology.

Punchenko on August 4, 2009 at 10:06 PM

Maybe Obama could get Edwards to channel his mother and have her teach him Russian…

Upstater85 on August 4, 2009 at 10:07 PM

The world refuses to acknowledge the power of Teh One.

The world refuses to cooperate.

DerKrieger on August 4, 2009 at 10:07 PM

yea that too. Bush saw the soul of Putin. What a joke W is

liberal343 on August 4, 2009 at 10:03 PM

The guy who said he saw Putin’s true nature is an idiot and the guy who gave Putin a button to overcharge him is not?

Black Yoshi on August 4, 2009 at 10:07 PM

When the Chinese tried to harass our Navy ships Obama ordered warships to the scene. The Chinese backed down like chickens

liberal343 on August 4, 2009 at 10:02 PM

Pretty sure they’re still harassing our ships. And laughing at our Treasury Secretary. And calling for a new reserve currency. And lecturing a capitalist nation on sound fiscal policy.

But whatever.

BadgerHawk on August 4, 2009 at 10:07 PM

Better send Bill and his shagadelic private jet to smooth things over with Russia as well.

Punchenko on August 4, 2009 at 10:07 PM

Really? The Chinese are afraid of Obama? Really? Hmm… That’s not what some of them told me…

Upstater85 on August 4, 2009 at 10:05 PM

Have you heard of the Chinese harassing any more Navy ships despite the fact that the NAVY still hasn’t stopped going into Chinese waters?

liberal343 on August 4, 2009 at 10:07 PM

Country before party! I hope Obambi grows a pair and sends the big bad U.S. Navy and Air Force to chase ‘em off.

Tony737 on August 4, 2009 at 10:08 PM

I think Russia wants an apology.

Punchenko on August 4, 2009 at 10:06 PM

Is that why they diverted Bill Clinton’s plane?

artist on August 4, 2009 at 10:08 PM

Relax!

Obama can see Russian subs from the Oval Office window!!

canopfor on August 4, 2009 at 10:09 PM

liberal343 on August 4, 2009 at 10:07 PM

Where exactly are US Navy ships operating in Chinese waters?

coldwarrior on August 4, 2009 at 10:09 PM

I have a Navy Captain here visiting our home. This is a serious, serious development. This is not right and this is a problem.

His words.

Key West Reader on August 4, 2009 at 10:09 PM

An Obama speech in Red Square about the common humanity that unites us in a struggle for blah blah blah blah.

He should also apologize for past crimes of the U.S., such as the insensitivity of casting a Scot as the commander of a Russian sub in Hunt for Red October.

Where’s Fred Thompson when you need him? “Russians don’t take a dump, son, without a plan.”

malclave on August 4, 2009 at 10:09 PM

If I were a conspiracy theory type, I’d suspect this is the manufactured crisis Biden was alluding to last year to build Obama some international crisis cred.

ROCnPhilly on August 4, 2009 at 10:10 PM

yea that too. Bush saw the soul of Putin. What a joke W is

At least GW looked ‘em in the eyes; Obama is too busy checking out the caboose on kids.

Spirit of 1776 on August 4, 2009 at 10:10 PM

He’s making calls…

WHERE ON THE EAST COAST?

Key West Reader on August 4, 2009 at 10:10 PM

Where exactly are US Navy ships operating in Chinese waters?

coldwarrior on August 4, 2009 at 10:09 PM

South China Sea

liberal343 on August 4, 2009 at 10:10 PM

…but as of right now I’m leaning towards number 4.

I really hope that’s not the case.

Can’t really buy any of those reasons.

Where’s teh Fred!

JetBoy on August 4, 2009 at 10:11 PM

Russian navy is a joke. That all you need to know

liberal343 on August 4, 2009 at 9:59 PM

Sounds like we have less to fear because they are the joke. Or at least less of one than Obama.

CWforFreedom on August 4, 2009 at 10:11 PM

Have you heard of the Chinese harassing any more Navy ships despite the fact that the NAVY still hasn’t stopped going into Chinese waters?

liberal343 on August 4, 2009 at 10:07 PM

Interesting, so you because the Chinese claim this water, it is their water? I wonder what the Philippines would say or Vietnam hm…

Upstater85 on August 4, 2009 at 10:11 PM

It’s as if all of our enemies–seen and unseen–are lying in wait. But for what?

baldilocks on August 4, 2009 at 10:11 PM

If I were a conspiracy theory type, I’d suspect this is the manufactured crisis Biden was alluding to last year to build Obama some international crisis cred.

ROCnPhilly on August 4, 2009 at 10:10 PM

Another international crisis to help Obama show cred? How many of these is Obama gonna need?

coldwarrior on August 4, 2009 at 10:11 PM

Oh so this is what Biden wanted us to gird our loins for.

liberal343 on August 4, 2009 at 10:07 PM

No. We were operating in international waters and they started being frisky…like Chinese are want to do. Only time we operate in Chinese waters is when the navy takes liberty in Hong Kong.

Rightwingguy on August 4, 2009 at 10:12 PM

Allah,

I would agree with you on theory 4. But you should also consider Reuben Johnson’s essay on Russia’s inevitable naval decline. The Russians just don’t have capacity to be a navel superpower anymore. Their only option is to gobble up old Soviet states. They know Obami won’t do anything about it. It’s not like we could stop anyway, our military is too small to begin with.

Lance Murdock on August 4, 2009 at 10:12 PM

When did Obama serve??

CWforFreedom on August 4, 2009 at 10:12 PM

I suspect that the Russians know a pussy when they see one, I know I do!

M-14 2go on August 4, 2009 at 10:12 PM

Where exactly are US Navy ships operating in Chinese waters?

coldwarrior on August 4, 2009 at 10:09 PM

South China Sea

liberal343 on August 4, 2009 at 10:10 PM

Just because it has the word “Chinese” in it, doesn’t mean it is part of Chinese territory.

Upstater85 on August 4, 2009 at 10:12 PM

Russian navy is a joke. That all you need to know

liberal343 on August 4, 2009 at 9:59 PM

Kak ty znaesh’?

baldilocks on August 4, 2009 at 10:12 PM

South China Sea

liberal343 on August 4, 2009 at 10:10 PM

So…China owns the entire South China Sea?

When did that happen?

coldwarrior on August 4, 2009 at 10:12 PM

Russian navy is a joke. That all you need to know

liberal343 on August 4, 2009 at 9:59 PM

liberal343: Thats very dangerous thinking!

Using your reasoning,NK nukes are a joke
as well,and ditto for Iran!

canopfor on August 4, 2009 at 10:13 PM

I will tell you what it means…It means I have to move away from the east coast pronto

The_Lid on August 4, 2009 at 10:13 PM

Russian navy is a joke. That all you need to know

liberal343 on August 4, 2009 at 9:59 PM

One EMP over the US and we are back to the stone age for months if not years. You think our economy sucks now?

Guardian on August 4, 2009 at 10:13 PM

liberal343 on August 4, 2009 at 10:10 PM

Quick! Someone inform the Philippines that they are operating in Chinese territorial waters!

Rightwingguy on August 4, 2009 at 10:13 PM

But for what?

baldilocks on August 4, 2009 at 10:11 PM

Our pending domestic implosion.

artist on August 4, 2009 at 10:14 PM

Guardian on August 4, 2009 at 10:13 PM

But I don’t want to go back to using animal hides to trade with!

Rightwingguy on August 4, 2009 at 10:14 PM

Quick! Someone inform the Philippines that they are operating in Chinese territorial waters!

Rightwingguy on August 4, 2009 at 10:13 PM

Heck, anything with the word “Chinse” in it belongs to the PRC!!! /s

Upstater85 on August 4, 2009 at 10:14 PM

It couldn’t happen to a better place in the Country. Oh, maybe San Francisco.

suzyk on August 4, 2009 at 10:14 PM

*Chinese

Upstater85 on August 4, 2009 at 10:14 PM

it ok liberal343. i produckt of pooblik educashon toos, goop hug?

Punchenko on August 4, 2009 at 10:14 PM

South China Sea

liberal343 on August 4, 2009 at 10:10 PM

Seriously? Just because it has ‘China’ in it doesn’t mean they have rights to the entire thing. Guess we better get the hell out of the Indian Ocean too.

BadgerHawk on August 4, 2009 at 10:14 PM

It couldn’t happen to a better place in the Country. Oh, maybe San Francisco.

suzyk on August 4, 2009 at 10:14 PM

SF would be happy if Putin promised them that it was a environmentally friendly fireworks show.

Upstater85 on August 4, 2009 at 10:15 PM

Kak ty znaesh’?

baldilocks on August 4, 2009 at 10:12 PM

Wow.

Key West Reader on August 4, 2009 at 10:15 PM

Putin knows we have a metro sexual POTUS…

d1carter on August 4, 2009 at 10:16 PM

Liarbel343

We were in international waters.

CWforFreedom on August 4, 2009 at 10:16 PM

Seriously? Just because it has ‘China’ in it doesn’t mean they have rights to the entire thing. Guess we better get the hell out of the Indian Ocean too.

BadgerHawk on August 4, 2009 at 10:14 PM

Don’t forget the Gulf of Mexico!

Punchenko on August 4, 2009 at 10:16 PM

BadgerHawk on August 4, 2009 at 10:14 PM

Yes it does! The Chinese also have control over those places in San Fransisco, New York, and Chicago. Why do you think they are called “China towns”, silly! (/sarc)

Rightwingguy on August 4, 2009 at 10:16 PM

Wow.

Key West Reader on August 4, 2009 at 10:15 PM

Chto?

baldilocks on August 4, 2009 at 10:16 PM

Putin knows we have a metro sexual POTUS…

d1carter on August 4, 2009 at 10:16 PM

Putin just wants to compare moobs. Obama no play?

Upstater85 on August 4, 2009 at 10:16 PM

Punchenko on August 4, 2009 at 10:16 PM

Oh man the Mexicans would love that.

Rightwingguy on August 4, 2009 at 10:16 PM

It couldn’t happen to a better place in the Country. Oh, maybe San Francisco.

suzyk on August 4, 2009 at 10:14 PM
SF would be happy if Putin promised them that it was a environmentally friendly fireworks show.

Upstater85 on August 4, 2009 at 10:15 PM

It’s the East Coast.

Key West Reader on August 4, 2009 at 10:16 PM

Comrade ☭☭liberal343☭☭ glad to see you are on the side of the people and not the bougiouse!!!

power to the proletariat!!

right4life on August 4, 2009 at 10:16 PM

Don’t forget the Gulf of Mexico!

Punchenko on August 4, 2009 at 10:16 PM

Ay! Dios Mio!

BadgerHawk on August 4, 2009 at 10:17 PM

What about the Ohio River?

kidding

CWforFreedom on August 4, 2009 at 10:17 PM

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