Another Blue Dog faces his constituents on health care

posted at 10:35 am on August 4, 2009 by Ed Morrissey

Democracy can be a dangerous thing … for incumbents who pass bad policy, or even attempt to defend it.  Jim Hoft at Gateway Pundit and Doug Ross have the latest evidence of this, a town-hall meeting on ObamaCare in Ohio’s 1st CD, represented by Democrat Steve Dreihaus.  In this case, Dreihaus has even more to explain after winning his seat on a claim of fiscal conservatism, as Dreihaus also voted for cap-and-trade, which will make Ohio’s coal industry vanish along with hiking energy costs on his constituents.  Yesterday, though, ObamaCare made them angry enough:

Driehaus did his best to maintain a facade of support. His town-hall organizers took only written questions and started off the meeting warning about “Teabaggers,” a term that they apparently didn’t know or care was a sexual slur intended to insult the very fiscal conservatives Dreihaus claims to represent. That strategy didn’t last long, however, as Doug’s correspondent Amalaur reported from the meeting:

Driehaus began with a canned statement of the typical Obama talking points and the crowd grew increasingly angry. A guy behind me yelled “Stop filibustering!” at about 7:15, at which point Driehaus gave in. He then started answering the written questions, mostly softball, that were picked out for him. The crowd started to get really rambunctious. One guy kept yelling out, “That was lie number (whatever)” when Driehaus repeated some nonsensical talking point like that there are 47 million uninsured.

You could hear a bunch of Tea Partiers outside yelling. Finally, enough attendees were sufficiently disruptive that Driehaus began taking real questions. There were a lot of good ones, about illegal immigrants covered under the bill… how the government couldn’t run cash-for-clunkers, how could it run health care… etc.

I would say the ratio of those opposed to ObamaCare and single-payer ran about 8-to-1 (maybe more). In fact, when the “public option” was raised and people yelled that would destroy competition, one of the Obamatons screamed, “the public option is competition!”. The guy next to me erupted, “No, it’s MARXISM!”

The good news is that people are educated about what the public option is, which basically is a disaster for private insurance. One questioner noted that you could go on the Internet and get access to about 14,000 different health insurance quotes with reviews and so on. She wanted state portability. Driehaus, of course, ignored that part.

You know how to tell that your town-hall meeting was a flop? Your constituents start chanting to vote for … the guy you beat in the last election. Former Rep. Steve Chabot lost OH-01 by 15,000 votes last November, but at least some of those voters may be feeling nostalgic for Chabot about now.

Update: Rep. Steve Kagan (D-WI) discovers that his constituents aren’t terribly happy, either, and the local news covers it pretty well (via Michelle):

Kagen called this a “listening session,” and he has more planned, including one this morning. Let’s hope he’s listening closely.


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I hope Dreihaus loses his job in 2010.

ladyingray on August 4, 2009 at 10:40 AM

It’s to bad, they should have held the townhall at Lambeau Field to assure enough room for the constituents!!!

Delaware Vol on August 4, 2009 at 10:41 AM

The Democrats have awoken a sleeping giant.

Repubtallygirl on August 4, 2009 at 10:41 AM

I grew up in Kagen’s district. If he votes for ObamaCare, he’s toast.

Mr. D on August 4, 2009 at 10:42 AM

I think if the planned disruptions are working this well, then probably it’s smart to cancel these townhalls.

AnninCA on August 4, 2009 at 10:42 AM

Repubtallygirl on August 4, 2009 at 10:41 AM

+1

Keep it up folks! More, please!

cmsinaz on August 4, 2009 at 10:43 AM

Like I said: muhahahahahahaha!

NathanG on August 4, 2009 at 10:44 AM

Good Lord! I LOVE IT! I hope it continues and grows. They should be hounded everywhere they go!

JAM on August 4, 2009 at 10:44 AM

Right. Listening session.

And then he’ll go and roll over like a good little doggie for Pelosi…but at least he can say he listened!

powerpro on August 4, 2009 at 10:44 AM

I think if the planned disruptions are working this well, then probably it’s smart to cancel these townhalls.

AnninCA on August 4, 2009 at 10:42 AM

These people have no business representing these districts if they cannot handle facing their constituents.

myrenovations on August 4, 2009 at 10:44 AM

I think if the planned disruptions are working this well, then probably it’s smart to cancel these townhalls.

AnninCA on August 4, 2009 at 10:42 AM

Shut up, AnninCA explained.

Mr. D on August 4, 2009 at 10:45 AM

Also…can we make a list of representatives who’ve canceled their townhalls so they don’t have to listen to their constituents?

We could bring more pressure to bear nationally on those cowards.

powerpro on August 4, 2009 at 10:45 AM

thank god for talk radio, these people would otherwise be uninformed.

weewilly on August 4, 2009 at 10:46 AM

Keep giving ‘em hell!

Red Cloud on August 4, 2009 at 10:47 AM

Well, I don’t think it’s useful for those who want to discuss the bill if it’s just going to be a protest event for others.

It has been documented that the insurance companies have organized protests at the townhalls, so everyone knows that. This isn’t spontaneous, in other words.

AnninCA on August 4, 2009 at 10:47 AM

Yup,Ohio is going the way of michigan thanks to strickland!
Your days are numbered Dreihaus! Brown for our district has not set anything up that I know of.Did we scare him off you think?

ohiobabe on August 4, 2009 at 10:48 AM

I think if the planned disruptions are working this well, then probably it’s smart to cancel these townhalls.

AnninCA on August 4, 2009 at 10:42 AM

Yes, by all means, let’s not give their constituents a chance to influence the representatives they voted to represent them.

Monica on August 4, 2009 at 10:48 AM

I think if the planned disruptions are working this well, then probably it’s smart to cancel these townhalls.

AnninCA on August 4, 2009 at 10:42 AM

Yes…our noble lords should retreat to where the unseemly serfs can’t get to them. No need to deal with the belligerent riff-raff.

ZJPolitical on August 4, 2009 at 10:48 AM

Well all I can say, given the tone that seems to be a constant feature of these Town Halls lately, these politicians would be mindful of which side their bread is buttered because after all its their constituents who get to decide if they get to keep their job and not Obama and the DNC.

Dreadnought223 on August 4, 2009 at 10:49 AM

I think if the planned disruptions are working this well, then probably it’s smart to cancel these townhalls.

AnninCA on August 4, 2009 at 10:42 AM

I think that if the planned legislation is creating so much disruption, then it’s probably time to cancel the support for it.

Tonus on August 4, 2009 at 10:49 AM

I think if the planned disruptions are working this well, then probably it’s smart to cancel these townhalls.

AnninCA on August 4, 2009 at 10:42 AM

The Obamacare opponents are just taking the One’s advice. Remember last fall….

“I need you to go out and talk to your friends and talk to your neighbors,” Barack Obama told a crowd in Elko, Nev. “I want you to talk to them whether they are independent or whether they are Republican. I want you to argue with them and get in their face.”

Wethal on August 4, 2009 at 10:49 AM

I think if the planned disruptions are working this well, then probably it’s smart to cancel these townhalls.

AnninCA on August 4, 2009 at 10:42 AM

Yes, by all means, let’s not give their constituents a chance to influence the representatives they voted to represent them.

Monica on August 4, 2009 at 10:48 AM

You’re both right. Members of Congress need to do town halls, but being shouted down for an hour does not an effective constituency meeting make.

YYZ on August 4, 2009 at 10:50 AM

Planned disruptions?

There you have it. The VRWC is responsible. Every single one of those folks at the meeting met with a secret handler in the shadows to get their talking points.

The American rattlesnake has been stepped on…..barefoot.

Limerick on August 4, 2009 at 10:50 AM

Bitter, white, middle class people clinging to their health insurance plans… ;-)

albill on August 4, 2009 at 10:50 AM

I think if the planned disruptions are working this well, then probably it’s smart to cancel these townhalls.

AnninCA on August 4, 2009 at 10:42 AM

Hey, live by planned disruptions, die by the planned disruptions. Learn it, love it, live it. And eat it.

Who cares if they’re planned? These are real people who happen to be informed. About dang time conservatives start making some noise.

hoosiermama on August 4, 2009 at 10:51 AM

Awesome! I cant wait till I can go to my reps townhall!

becki51758 on August 4, 2009 at 10:51 AM

AnninCA on August 4, 2009 at 10:42 AM

Ann, please go read Karl’s Greenroom post about these “planned” “infiltrations”.

Enlightening. Or… maybe you already knew about it (because you’re a part of it?)?

Abby Adams on August 4, 2009 at 10:51 AM

Sort of destroys the local news coverage, doesn’t it.

In their face.

tarpon on August 4, 2009 at 10:51 AM

The only way we are going to make a real change is by voting these idiots out of office. I hope this anger results in more votes for American and not for bigger and bigger government.

d1carter on August 4, 2009 at 10:51 AM

Well, I don’t think it’s useful for those who want to discuss the bill if it’s just going to be a protest event for others.

It has been documented that the insurance companies have organized protests at the townhalls, so everyone knows that. This isn’t spontaneous, in other words.

AnninCA on August 4, 2009 at 10:47 AM

I’m planning to attend four town halls and I have no knowledge of insurance company involvement. Where’s the documentation?

Monica on August 4, 2009 at 10:51 AM

Feel the love!

Mr. Joe on August 4, 2009 at 10:51 AM

“there wasn’t much listening going on” – Robert Honacek

Let me be clear. The purpose of a “listening session” is for the Representatives to listen to the constituents. I think Robert thought the idea was for the constituents to sit quietly and listen to their superiors.

forest on August 4, 2009 at 10:51 AM

I think if the planned disruptions are working this well, then probably it’s smart to cancel these townhalls.

AnninCA on August 4, 2009 at 10:42 AM

Yeah, that whole representation thing is way overrated.
/

Vashta.Nerada on August 4, 2009 at 10:52 AM

It has been documented that the insurance companies have organized protests at the townhalls, so everyone knows that. This isn’t spontaneous, in other words.

AnninCA on August 4, 2009 at 10:47 AM

Ah, so insurance companies and their representatives aren’t allowed to participate in the democratic process, because they aren’t “spontaneous.” Got it.

Mr. D on August 4, 2009 at 10:52 AM

I think if the planned disruptions are working this well, then probably it’s smart to cancel these townhalls.

AnninCA on August 4, 2009 at 10:42 AM

Of course. How dare those citizen-voters think that they should have a right to express their opinions or ask questions of their congressman about an issue that will directly affect them and their families for the rest of their lives! What gall! What do they think we have here, a representative government or something?/

AZCoyote on August 4, 2009 at 10:52 AM

I’m planning to attend four town halls and I have no knowledge of insurance company involvement. Where’s the documentation?

Apparently, e-mails went out based on some teaparty lists. At least, according to Glenn Beck.

AnninCA on August 4, 2009 at 10:53 AM

Good looking crowd…all that is missing are pitchforks. There is no way the Dems can pass this.

PS.. AnninCA You need to move to Canada. Oh I forgot you already live in California.

Dire Straits on August 4, 2009 at 10:53 AM

I don’t believe the current storyline that the insurance companies organizing the protests. There may be some organization to some of the protests, but the tea party groups have gotten pretty savy pretty fast.

The people inside the meeting getting riled up about previously submitted softball questions have every reason to be riled up. They want answers to their questions, which the representatives should at least try to answer.

myrenovations on August 4, 2009 at 10:53 AM

It has been documented that the insurance companies have organized protests at the townhalls, so everyone knows that. This isn’t spontaneous, in other words.
AnninCA on August 4, 2009 at 10:47 AM

Ah, the passive tense. Documented by whom?

(Maybe the insurance companies are just being good community organizers.)

Disturb the Universe on August 4, 2009 at 10:53 AM

Well, I don’t think it’s useful for those who want to discuss the bill if it’s just going to be a protest event for others.

It has been documented that the insurance companies have organized protests at the townhalls, so everyone knows that. This isn’t spontaneous, in other words.

AnninCA on August 4, 2009 at 10:47 AM

Proof or it didn’t happen

joeswampy on August 4, 2009 at 10:54 AM

It has been documented that the insurance companies have organized protests at the townhalls, so everyone knows that. This isn’t spontaneous, in other words.

AnninCA on August 4, 2009 at 10:47 AM

I can’t see the link to your documentation…..

Vashta.Nerada on August 4, 2009 at 10:54 AM

“Work together to fix our system.”

BS

davidk on August 4, 2009 at 10:54 AM

No, I don’t have problems with the protesters. I do think that it’s fine to move them outside, so that people who really do want to ask questions can do so.

I personally wouldn’t want to attend something that I know already is going to be nothing more than shouting. But then, I’m not ever for planned disruptions of meetings, regardless of the cause.

AnninCA on August 4, 2009 at 10:55 AM

I think if the planned disruptions are working this well, then probably it’s smart to cancel these townhalls.

AnninCA on August 4, 2009 at 10:42 AM

I agree. I mean, seriously, who do these people think they are in trying to tell their elected official how to represent them in Congress? The nerve of these voters!!!

Let them eat cupcakes!!!
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ladyingray on August 4, 2009 at 10:55 AM

So when these congress [men, women] get back to Washington will the leadership of the democrat party have enough leverage to force these members of congress to vote against their constituents? Will the leadership force it that far?

It begins to look like the potential for a real revolt if congress passes this thing despite public protest. This could turn out to be a real power struggle between factions, and between citizens and government.

Skandia Recluse on August 4, 2009 at 10:55 AM

Glenn Beck, Vashta…probably in his show links.

AnninCA on August 4, 2009 at 10:55 AM

“planned disruptions”

I see the trolls have found the straw they will desperately grasp to. I wonder if they don’t see how hypocritical and factually incorrect this argument is, or if they just don’t care…

Ampersand on August 4, 2009 at 10:55 AM

California, the land of fruits and nuts. Ann, that means you sweetcheeks!!!

Ghoul aid on August 4, 2009 at 10:55 AM

think if the planned disruptions are working this well, then probably it’s smart to cancel these townhalls.

AnninCA on August 4, 2009 at 10:42 AM

Let’s just shoot the people who dare protest. That way we can forget the devolution from republic to oligarchy and go right to tyranny.

Nitwit.

mr1216 on August 4, 2009 at 10:55 AM

I think if the planned disruptions are working this well, then probably it’s smart to cancel these townhalls.
AnninCA on August 4, 2009 at 10:42 AM

Of course. We certainly wouldnt want them listening to actual constituents now would we Ann?

It has been documented that the insurance companies have organized protests at the townhalls, so everyone knows that. This isn’t spontaneous, in other words.

I see. So people dont like what they are hearing and seeing, so they make a plan to make themselves heard. But you disagree, so that makes it a bad thing. Now I get it. What a tool

JusDreamin on August 4, 2009 at 10:56 AM

AnninCA on August 4, 2009 at 10:53 AM

And if there was some planning….so what? You are trying to say, flat out, the message is wrong. The Public Option is good. Well from the looks of these townhalls a whole bunch of folks agree with the message. BarryCare is going down the rabbit hole or the folks are going into foxholes. Get used to it as Barry trys to send us through a wrinkle in time.

Limerick on August 4, 2009 at 10:56 AM

I think I could make a fortune selling tar & feather mannequins…..

izoneguy on August 4, 2009 at 10:56 AM

Well, I don’t think it’s useful for those who want to discuss the bill if it’s just going to be a protest event for others.

Spouting Democrat/Obama talking points isn’t about discussion, it’s about ending discussion along the lines of “and that’s the way it is.” But since real discussion only shines the light into dark corners, I can understand your fear of it.

It has been documented that the insurance companies have organized protests at the townhalls, so everyone knows that. This isn’t spontaneous, in other words.

Horrors! The insurance companies don’t like being called immoral and vile. Someone should tell Pelosi, Reid, et al, to just STFU!

Also, it’s not “real” if there is any organization? So unless people wander in off the streets, it’s not a legitimate protest?

How do you apply that metric to ACORN and others who organize FOR Obamcare? Not much spontaneity there…

karl9000 on August 4, 2009 at 10:56 AM

Apparently, e-mails went out based on some teaparty lists. At least, according to Glenn Beck.

AnninCA on August 4, 2009 at 10:53 AM

E-mails and Tweets also went out about a list of townhalls that was generated by a private individual who did the leg work. Are conservatives and concerned citizens not allowed to be organized in their opposition to ObamAssurance?

myrenovations on August 4, 2009 at 10:56 AM

Bitter, white, middle class people clinging to their health insurance plans… ;-)

albill on August 4, 2009 at 10:50 AM

Bitterly clinging to their God, Guns and Private Health insurance?

Dreadnought223 on August 4, 2009 at 10:57 AM

It has been documented that the insurance companies have organized protests at the townhalls, so everyone knows that. This isn’t spontaneous, in other words.

AnninCA on August 4, 2009 at 10:47 AM

There you have it, folks. One of the new Democratic talking points: the majority of Americans support the Dems’ healthcare takeover plan (ignore all the polls that say otherwise); it’s the evil insurance companies that are behind all the protests.

AZCoyote on August 4, 2009 at 10:57 AM

No, it just means supporters stayed home and away from the protests.

AnninCA on August 4, 2009 at 10:57 AM

It’s time for ObamaCare to get end of life counseling.

Ted Torgerson on August 4, 2009 at 10:57 AM

AnninCA on August 4, 2009 at 10:55 AM

Perhaps you would feel more comfortable in North Korea, AnninNK.

sherry on August 4, 2009 at 10:57 AM

Glenn Beck, Vashta…probably in his show links.

AnninCA on August 4, 2009 at 10:55 AM

You claim it, you link it. Them’s the rules.

Vashta.Nerada on August 4, 2009 at 10:57 AM

AnninCA, you’re the one claiming documentation, you prove it or shut the f*ck up.

Monica on August 4, 2009 at 10:58 AM

E-mails and Tweets also went out about a list of townhalls that was generated by a private individual who did the leg work. Are conservatives and concerned citizens not allowed to be organized in their opposition to ObamAssurance?

No, it’s fine. But it’s a protest, not a townhall, then.

AnninCA on August 4, 2009 at 10:58 AM

Are conservatives and concerned citizens not allowed to be organized in their opposition to ObamAssurance?

myrenovations on August 4, 2009 at 10:56 AM

Is only ACORN allowed to organize a community? ANN?

Disturb the Universe on August 4, 2009 at 10:58 AM

I’ll go dig it out. Then, my rules are that you apologize.

Deal?

Otherwise, I don’t play.

AnninCA on August 4, 2009 at 10:59 AM

Well, I don’t think it’s useful for those who want to discuss the bill if it’s just going to be a protest event for others.

It has been documented that the insurance companies have organized protests at the townhalls, so everyone knows that. This isn’t spontaneous, in other words.

AnninCA on August 4, 2009 at 10:47 AM

Teh voice of elitism – ‘we don’t want to hear anything other than the magic mirror on the wall.’

Documentation? Care to share, or will you dodge like you astroturfing POSs always do?

TinMan13 on August 4, 2009 at 10:59 AM

It has been documented that the insurance companies have organized protests at the townhalls, so everyone knows that. This isn’t spontaneous, in other words.

AnninCA on August 4, 2009 at 10:47 AM

Ann, I go to these things and I have never even gotten so much as a piece of mail from an insurance company let alone being a mouthpiece for them. But she is right, these public servants will soon be going on “fact finding missions” to Bermuda on the taxpayer dime instead of facing their constituents. Braverly is not a hallmark of our Congress.

Cindy Munford on August 4, 2009 at 10:59 AM

It has been documented that the insurance companies have organized protests at the townhalls, so everyone knows that. This isn’t spontaneous, in other words.

AnninCA on August 4, 2009 at 10:47 AM

An artificial DNC posting bot says it’s we humans who are not spontaneous in our convictions.

Orwellian.

jeff_from_mpls on August 4, 2009 at 10:59 AM

think if the planned disruptions are working this well, then probably it’s smart to cancel these townhalls.

AnninCA on August 4, 2009 at 10:42 AM

it would be smart to cancel oboobi care, but you don’t see that , do you?

SHARPTOOTH on August 4, 2009 at 10:59 AM

No, it’s fine. But it’s a protest, not a townhall, then.

AnninCA on August 4, 2009 at 10:58 AM

They are mutually exclusive? Since when?

Disturb the Universe on August 4, 2009 at 10:59 AM

Is only ACORN allowed to organize a community? ANN?

Outside. But disrupting meetings is counterproductive in Democracy, in my opinion.

AnninCA on August 4, 2009 at 10:59 AM

No, it just means supporters stayed home and away from the protests.

AnninCA on August 4, 2009 at 10:57 AM

LOL. If it is so damn important to the country then why the hell are you folks staying home? Don’t you people fight for anything? Don’t you stand for anything? ***spits on sidewalk***

Limerick on August 4, 2009 at 11:00 AM

The key to killing the HC bill is the support of seniors. If senior citizen support for this tanks, then it’s dead. Period. I found it interesting that the video showed a large number of older folks. These are the people that will get shafted under this bill – and that’s why Obama is in such trouble now.

The fact that they’re now labeling the anti-NHC voters as a part of some mob says to me that they’ve pretty much played their last hand on this as the public simply doesn’t want it. They can’t sell the details b/c the details stink so what’s left but to discredit the opposition. It’s going to be a long hot August for these guys.

volnation on August 4, 2009 at 11:00 AM

Well, I don’t think it’s useful for those who want to discuss the bill if it’s just going to be a protest event for others.

It has been documented that the insurance companies have organized protests at the townhalls, so everyone knows that. This isn’t spontaneous, in other words.

AnninCA on August 4, 2009 at 10:47 AM

Sort of like the ACORN and SEUI and UAW “spontanous” protests in which everyone shows up with an identical, professionally printed protest sign. Or spontaneously decides to take a bus up to a neighborhood where AIG execs live.

Wethal on August 4, 2009 at 11:00 AM

No, I don’t have problems with the protesters. I do think that it’s fine to move them outside, so that people who really do want to ask questions can do so.

I personally wouldn’t want to attend something that I know already is going to be nothing more than shouting. But then, I’m not ever for planned disruptions of meetings, regardless of the cause.

AnninCA on August 4, 2009 at 10:55 AM

In the above video, the tea party protestors are outside, protesting and the angry people inside are mostly angry because the representative is only willing to answer pre-written, softball questions.

myrenovations on August 4, 2009 at 11:00 AM

The text of the First Amendment as follows:

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

Nothing in there barring insurance companies or anyone else, AnninCA.

Mr. D on August 4, 2009 at 11:00 AM

Gotta love the hypocrisy of those calling out charges of “planned disruptions”, and accusing others of astro-turfing, via talking points and daily e-mail blasts from Media Matters.

ICBM on August 4, 2009 at 11:00 AM

Let’s not forget…Obama is lying through his teeth about his plans for health care.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-bY92mcOdk

Download it and upload it in other locations (in case the Obots have it taken down), share it, get the word out.

Continue to pressure your congressmen and women and place extra special pressure on blue dogs and cowards who hide from their constituents.

powerpro on August 4, 2009 at 11:00 AM

No, it just means supporters stayed home and away from the protests.

AnninCA on August 4, 2009 at 10:57 AM

We took our marbles and went home! Nanny-nanny-boo-boo!

TinMan13 on August 4, 2009 at 11:01 AM

Hey, you know how the LeftBots used to say the Iraq War was to steal the oil…

is Obama giving the oil back to its rightful owners?

is he even investigating the matter?

Or do Democrats just MAKE CRAP UP to demonize their imaginary enemies?

Nice work AnninCA! But we’re on to you and your ilk.

jeff_from_mpls on August 4, 2009 at 11:01 AM

The fact that they’re now labeling the anti-NHC voters as a part of some mob says to me that they’ve pretty much played their last hand on this as the public simply doesn’t want it. They can’t sell the details b/c the details stink so what’s left but to discredit the opposition. It’s going to be a long hot August for these guys.

I noticed the age too. Most of them are on medicare, it would appear.

Are they worried about reduction in their own benefits?

AnninCA on August 4, 2009 at 11:01 AM

The link to the bottom video doesn’t work. All you get is a black screen. Someone must have deleted it.

bradley11 on August 4, 2009 at 11:01 AM

volnation on August 4, 2009 at 11:00 AM

Unfortunately AARP is in the tank. Probably plans on bigger sales of Medicare Supplement insurance when Medicare is cut. AARP makes the bucks off selling insurance, not the membership fees.

Wethal on August 4, 2009 at 11:01 AM

Citizens can make a difference. Let’s keep it up!

hawksruleva on August 4, 2009 at 11:02 AM

Gotta love the hypocrisy of those calling out charges of “planned disruptions”, and accusing others of astro-turfing, via talking points and daily e-mail blasts from Media Matters.

ICBM on August 4, 2009 at 11:00 AM

While it is technically hypocrisy, I’d call it projection, myself.

Vashta.Nerada on August 4, 2009 at 11:02 AM

Outside. But disrupting meetings is counterproductive in Democracy, in my opinion.

AnninCA on August 4, 2009 at 10:59 AM

judging by the people holding the microphone and talking it seems the meeting are more than the riotous protest you are so desperate to make it out to be. I love this meme the left is using. they have no clue how elitist and desperate it makes them sound.

Ampersand on August 4, 2009 at 11:02 AM

I’ll go dig it out. Then, my rules are that you apologize.

Deal?

Otherwise, I don’t play.

AnninCA on August 4, 2009 at 10:59 AM

…… AnninCA desperately googling MSNBC, MoveOn.org, Daily Kos and Huffington Post to find “documentation”.

Standby folks.

fogw on August 4, 2009 at 11:03 AM

Teachable moment…

There is no such thing as a “Blue Dog” Democrat… only Democrats from districts that aren’t NYC, SF, etc… who must pretend that they are “fiscal conservatives” to get elected.

Now, tell me, what “fiscal conservative” would EVER vote for Cap & Destroy or pretend that Obamacare is about “competition”?

mankai on August 4, 2009 at 11:03 AM

Why do you guys take AnninCA’s bait? Everytime I come on here, she’s saying something else ridiculous just to get attention.

anniekc on August 4, 2009 at 11:03 AM

I’m loving theses townhall meetings. It brings back faith in my country which is something I have been missing. Where are the brown shirts and ACORNites? I guess they are sitting this one out for der Leader Obama.

Dire Straits on August 4, 2009 at 11:03 AM

AnninCA has helped to confirm that in fact, the “emperor has no clothes”. If it insn’t there, or I can’t see it, then it does not exist. Hey AnninCA, are you a full-bore California commie or just plain clueless? …. Imposters like Dreihaus will be gone and replaced by someone who will actually do the work of the People in 2010/2012.

HomeoftheBrave on August 4, 2009 at 11:03 AM

1/20/09: The day dissent became unpatriotic.

BPD on August 4, 2009 at 11:04 AM

“Planned” or not, some in the media are missing the real point. And that is that people are angry, fed up, and are voicing opinions. This is a fire that is feeding itself. For too many years and decades, “regular folks” have repeatedly been told and believe that their vote doesn’t matter, one voice or one letter won’t make a difference, because we elect these self-serving imbiciles and they just do whateverthehell they want.

When one stands up to protest, one next to them realizes that they feel the same way, and also stands up. And the next, and the next 10.

People are paying attention more than ever, through news stories, talk radio, and blogosphere (and HotAir IMHO is probably the BEST information source available). People know they’ve been lied to for years and refuse to put up with it any longer.

This ball is rolling, the fire is started, and it will NOT be put out easily.

JamesLee on August 4, 2009 at 11:04 AM

Are they worried about reduction in their own benefits?

AnninCA on August 4, 2009 at 11:01 AM

Since the Dems say Obamacare is to be partly financed by cuts in Medicare, I’d say yes, they’re worried.

Not to mention now elderly people will fare under health care rationing. What can you buy for younger people with the cost of an artificial hip for an 80 year old?

Wethal on August 4, 2009 at 11:04 AM

I’m glad to see so many people turning out and putting pressure on the congressmen to refrain from screwing the taxpayers over. I wish the acoustics had been better in the first video. With my hearing problem, I couldn’t understand a word that was said. I had a similar problem with the Liz Cheney video yesterday.

backwoods conservative on August 4, 2009 at 11:04 AM

At least, according to Glenn Beck.

AnninCA on August 4, 2009 at 10:53 AM

You are quoting Glenn Beck?

davidk on August 4, 2009 at 11:04 AM

AnninCA, you’re the one claiming documentation, you prove it or shut the f*ck up.

Monica on August 4, 2009 at 10:58 AM

That is dear Ann’s MO.

Ask her who has higher ratings – Glenn Beck or The View…I’m still trying to get her documentation that it is The View.

ladyingray on August 4, 2009 at 11:05 AM

No, it just means supporters stayed home and away from the protests.

AnninCA on August 4, 2009 at 10:57 AM

That would be a liberal first.

joeswampy on August 4, 2009 at 11:05 AM

If these townhall meetings were being infiltrated by insurance company cronies, then the politicians would have nothing to fear. Obviously the polls, the phone calls, the protests, and the blogs are all being cooked and they can feel safe voting for Obamacare.

Yet for some odd reason, these folks look scared sh-tless at these townhall meetings. And we know behind closed doors in DC, it’s getting ugly. Which means all this dissent from their constituents is very real.

Doughboy on August 4, 2009 at 11:06 AM

All I see is a bunch of White people, whose reign of terror is over, clinging to the past.

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SouthernGent on August 4, 2009 at 11:06 AM

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