Gibbs: No way, no how, no chance are we raising taxes on the middle class; Update: 54% think tax hikes hurt the economy

posted at 4:23 pm on August 3, 2009 by Allahpundit

Alternate headline: No way, no how, no chance is this tool telling the truth. Rarely will you recognize a future GOP campaign commercial as it’s happening but this certainly qualifies, especially now that the NYT’s broken the bad news that America’s tax base of rich people is not, in fact, inexhaustible. So transparent is Gibbs’s lie, in fact, that no fewer than three separate reporters can be found badgering him about it here, all of them plainly incredulous at The One’s plan to build Great Society II — replete with a trillion-dollar universal health care program — via nothing more than a modest surtax on top earners and some Hopenchange loaves-and-fishes magic. Hold on to your wallets, kids. Exit question: If there’s no way, no how, no chance we’re getting a tax hike, why didn’t TurboTax Tim say that yesterday? Click the image to watch.

Update: Rasmussen sees unsurprising peril for The One lurking in any prospective tax hike but more amazing are the numbers on people’s expectations. Only 41 percent foresee paying more taxes under Hopenchange — and fully 11 percent foresee paying less? Huh?


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maverick muse on August 3, 2009 at 4:25 PM

I don’t believe him or his boss.

Cindy Munford on August 3, 2009 at 4:25 PM

Read My Gibbs… No New Taxes.

Enoxo on August 3, 2009 at 4:25 PM

Bwahahaha. Good one, Gibbsy.

/he’s not being serious, is he?

Abby Adams on August 3, 2009 at 4:25 PM

Continuing to make McClellan look competent.

lorien1973 on August 3, 2009 at 4:25 PM

Those crazy financial guys, always running off at the mouth on the Sunday talk shows. I wish Obama ran a tightly controlled message machine…

hawksruleva on August 3, 2009 at 4:26 PM

‘Baghdad Gibbs’?

michaelo on August 3, 2009 at 4:26 PM

So, this means they are in the planning stages of the middle class tax increase.

Vashta.Nerada on August 3, 2009 at 4:26 PM

What a surprise – the lying liars lie.

LASue on August 3, 2009 at 4:27 PM

If I didn’t know better, I’d think that they were actually TRYING to lose in big in 2010 and contribute to their own unemployment in 2012. Good grief.

volnation on August 3, 2009 at 4:27 PM

So does this mean that Obama and Co. are going to extend the Bush tax cuts next year? Without such an extension, then a tax increase on the middle class is most certainly in the near future.

thirteen28 on August 3, 2009 at 4:27 PM

We just got GibbsRoll’d.

Never gonna raise your tax,Never gonna let you down, No Chance, No how will we tax you.

portlandon on August 3, 2009 at 4:27 PM

Clear as mud!

Maquis on August 3, 2009 at 4:28 PM

2012 can’t come fast enough. Note to the RNC: CLOSE THE FRICKIN PRIMARIES! Otherwise this has the potential to be a pyrrhic victory at best.

Rogue on August 3, 2009 at 4:28 PM

This is the kind of denial that comes right before a huge middle class income tax increase. And a new medical benefits tax. And right after a cigarette tax increase.

myrenovations on August 3, 2009 at 4:28 PM

“The president has been clear on this”, huh, Gibbsy? Riiiight.

teke184 on August 3, 2009 at 4:29 PM

Actually, he’s telling the truth. Their planning to print enough money to drive inflation to 50% per year or more, and in a few years everyone will be ‘upper class rich’ with our $250K salaries.

michaelo on August 3, 2009 at 4:29 PM

DOW is keeps going up. I guess the stimulus didn’t work

liberal343 on August 3, 2009 at 4:29 PM

Mission accomplished. Timmy and Lawrence needed to give the Chicoms some reassurance. This is a day to day operation.

a capella on August 3, 2009 at 4:29 PM

lorien1973 on August 3, 2009 at 4:25 PM

Harsh, very very harsh. But true.

Cindy Munford on August 3, 2009 at 4:29 PM

Baghdad Bob. nuff said.

milwife88 on August 3, 2009 at 4:30 PM

It’s Congress that raises taxes you dummies ;)

I think Pelosi and Reid better put on some full body contact padding cause they will be tossed under the bus soon.

gatorboy on August 3, 2009 at 4:30 PM

Nobody ever bothers to mention that many states have already hit people with big tax hikes in the recent budget cycle. And, at least here in Delaware, the states were unwilling to do any significant cutting to their own, bloated, union-heavy budgets.

The middle class has already seen its taxes go up. And they are not happy about it.

BigD on August 3, 2009 at 4:30 PM

liberal343 on August 3, 2009 at 4:29 PM

Um, what do you think is going to happen to the investor class when they are saddled with the nation’s deficit?

WisCon on August 3, 2009 at 4:30 PM

Read My Gibbs… No New Taxes.

Enoxo on August 3, 2009 at 4:25 PM

+100

Josiah on August 3, 2009 at 4:30 PM

DOW is keeps going up. I guess the stimulus didn’t work

liberal343 on August 3, 2009 at 4:29 PM

You really don’t understand economics, do you?

myrenovations on August 3, 2009 at 4:30 PM

So, is Obama going to fire Geithner for saying they would raise taxes?

Terrye on August 3, 2009 at 4:30 PM

There are in a bit of a bind here – they can’t have small results given all the money they’ve spent (borrowed) and they can’t raise additional funds to produce more “results”. They have to know that they’re in trouble here – when the MSM no longer believes your schtick then your done.

volnation on August 3, 2009 at 4:31 PM

liberal343 on August 3, 2009 at 4:29 PM

That’s because oil prices are going up.

Do you not know how the stock market works? Do you think that the stimulus bill has an actual cause and effect (in a positive way) relationship with the DOW?

Abby Adams on August 3, 2009 at 4:32 PM

“No way, no how, no chance is this tool telling the truth.”

I think it would be prudent for the GOP to save this clip……..

………… it just might come in handy in case there is an election or something.

Seven Percent Solution on August 3, 2009 at 4:32 PM

Exit question: If there’s no way, no how, no chance we’re getting a tax hike, why didn’t TurboTax Tim say that yesterday?

Timmah was floating a trial balloon. Today, Gibbs was on damage patrol.

ICBM on August 3, 2009 at 4:32 PM

Gibbs: No way, no how, no chance are we raising taxes on the middle class

Let me be clear: no way, no how, no chance is this the truth.

LastRick on August 3, 2009 at 4:32 PM

liberal343:

The Dow? I can remember when the DOW was at 14,000 and the Democrats acted as if the economy was just so horrid.

So, I guess it depends on what the stimulus was supposed to do. If it was supposed to make life easier for the average American, it failed. If it was supposed to line the pockets of the well connected, then it succeeded.

And if the DOW starts to fall again, then what?

Terrye on August 3, 2009 at 4:32 PM

Oh, please, Great OBama, tell us the real truth. HA!!!!

mobydutch on August 3, 2009 at 4:33 PM

How can you tells that Gibbs is lying?

His lips are moving…

Khun Joe on August 3, 2009 at 4:33 PM

Liberal343 strikes again!

blatantblue on August 3, 2009 at 4:33 PM

DOW is keeps going up. I guess the stimulus didn’t work

liberal343 on August 3, 2009 at 4:29 PM

Ummm your first sentence makes no sense at all. Are you wearing a helmet? If so loosen it up a bit it helps the blood flow.

milwife88 on August 3, 2009 at 4:33 PM

Gibbs has to reverse himself in 5…4…3…2…
Allah, keep this clip handy. We’ll need to drag it out in a few months, or weeks, or days, or hours when they start taxing the middle class (in addition to the cigarette taxes they’ve already passed).

Like Ed says, maybe he meant no gnu taxes! Hah!

Christian Conservative on August 3, 2009 at 4:34 PM

He didn’t define what Obama considered middle class, and what is it with Tapper. Is he the only one that can ask a real question?

DFCtomm on August 3, 2009 at 4:34 PM

no fewer than three separate reporters can be found badgering him about it here,

Three? Whoa! That’s almost four.

If we reach five the word “journalism” may slip out.

mankai on August 3, 2009 at 4:34 PM

‘Baghdad Gibbs’?

michaelo on August 3, 2009 at 4:26 PM

Well, his first name is “Bob”.

Buford Gooch on August 3, 2009 at 4:34 PM

So, is Obama going to fire Geithner for saying they would raise taxes?

Terrye on August 3, 2009 at 4:30 PM

They always run a diverse contradicting message , which after focus groping ends with “as i always said”.

the_nile on August 3, 2009 at 4:34 PM

DOW is keeps going up. I guess the stimulus didn’t work

liberal343 on August 3, 2009 at 4:29 PM

Vast majority of whites don’t know what racism is because they have not experienced it

liberal343 on July 29, 2009 at 10:42 PM

portlandon on August 3, 2009 at 4:35 PM

DOW is keeps going up. I guess the stimulus didn’t work

liberal343 on August 3, 2009 at 4:29 PM

Dow is going up because of the Fed funds being given to banks… dark pool trading is a very substantial percentage of market volume these days… and I believe insider selling is near its 2007 highs… not a good sign.

But by all means, please invest every last penny you have in the stock market.

BPD on August 3, 2009 at 4:36 PM

the_nile on August 3, 2009 at 4:34 PM

Oh, there will be groping all right. Feeling around for your wallet.

Abby Adams on August 3, 2009 at 4:36 PM

Those budget numbers reflecting free fall of tax revenues are not going to help Gibby’s credibility.

a capella on August 3, 2009 at 4:36 PM

If there is anything that describes the expression on this tool’s face every time I see him, it is this: “I don’t even get any information from the President and I know that my job is to lie about every little thing he does.”

What a life.

Grafted on August 3, 2009 at 4:37 PM

DOW is keeps going up. I guess the stimulus didn’t work

liberal343 on August 3, 2009 at 4:29 PM

Just because the Tarp , TALF ect bubbles up the dow doesn’t mean businesses makes money to repay debt and hire workers.

the_nile on August 3, 2009 at 4:37 PM

Liberal343 strikes again!

blatantblue on August 3, 2009 at 4:33 PM

Strikes out?

Buford Gooch on August 3, 2009 at 4:38 PM

Raise taxes on the middle class? Never! Only on millionaires will we raise taxes!

(The term “millionaire” is defined as anyone with the intention of accruing, by income, barter, trade, assessed property value, or potential organ donation, an amount greater than one million dollars between the time that one is birthed, whether vaginal or caesarean or by any other means, and the time of one’s demise, whether by illness, accident, or government policy.)

beatcanvas on August 3, 2009 at 4:38 PM

So when will the Washington Press corp start laughing at Gibbs…uh….wait

Skandia Recluse on August 3, 2009 at 4:38 PM

And when if the DOW starts to falls again, then what?

Terrye on August 3, 2009 at 4:32 PM

FIFY

thomasaur on August 3, 2009 at 4:38 PM

DOW is keeps going up. I guess the stimulus didn’t work

liberal343 on August 3, 2009 at 4:29 PM

Correlation does not causation prove. I know our government education is laughable, but surely this isn’t news to you.

Of course unemployment keeps going down. Wasn’t the stimulus supposed to keep us from hitting that ugly number of 8.5% even though we’re not already over 9%?

Esthier on August 3, 2009 at 4:38 PM

He didn’t define what Obama considered middle class, and what is it with Tapper. Is he the only one that can ask a real question?

DFCtomm on August 3, 2009 at 4:34 PM

He’s the only one that smuggled in his balls. The rest checked theirs at the door. Except for Helen Thomas, even now and then she brings her old, wrinkly pair out.

Enoxo on August 3, 2009 at 4:38 PM

Strikes out?

Buford Gooch on August 3, 2009 at 4:38 PM

I was thinking of it as

“liberal 343 swoops in with another lefty talking point, and flees”

that type of strike

but strikes out works too

blatantblue on August 3, 2009 at 4:38 PM

Let me be clear.

PBoilermaker on August 3, 2009 at 4:39 PM

DOW is keeps going up. I guess the stimulus didn’t work

liberal343 on August 3, 2009 at 4:29 PM

i thought tarp was supposed to fix the stock market, so this is a win for…bush? stimulus, in case you weren’t paying attention, was supposed to create/save 3-4 million jobs, so far we hae lost an additional 2 million since the stimulus passed, so yes you are correct the stimulus didn’t work.

weewilly on August 3, 2009 at 4:39 PM

what a tool-
lost count on how many times he said the word ‘clear’

cmsinaz on August 3, 2009 at 4:39 PM

Curious as to his definition of middle class? Probably will shrink it to $50k or less and then whack everyone above it.

bhawknine on August 3, 2009 at 4:39 PM

I meant to say DOW keeps going up

liberal343 on August 3, 2009 at 4:39 PM

They always run a diverse contradicting message , which after focus groping ends with “as i always said”.

the_nile on August 3, 2009 at 4:34 PM

Isn’t THAT the truth. You’d think they were floating crapola sandwiches out there to see how people react..then retracting them shortly thereafter. THEN, later on, with audacity to spare, they reverse course again, do exactly what the crap sandwich was originally about and act as if that was there position all along.
The rest of us are left gobsmacked at the stupidity.

Thunderstorm129 on August 3, 2009 at 4:39 PM

It depends on what the meanings of words like “possible” and “are” possibly are.

calbear on August 3, 2009 at 4:40 PM

Classic pig in a poke if you ask me!

scalleywag on August 3, 2009 at 4:40 PM

That guy is a bumbling fool/tool. Every thing he and Bozo have said are going to bite them in the ass big time. ONE TERM PRESIDENT!

txag92 on August 3, 2009 at 4:40 PM

Oil and gas prices are on the rise again, because manufacturing has stopped its decline. The truth is that home prices got low enough that sales are improving. All this proves is that left to its own devices the economy will cure itself.

However, if these bozos destroy the currency and bury the country in debt and taxes, any recovery will be diminished.

Terrye on August 3, 2009 at 4:40 PM

liberal343 on August 3, 2009 at 4:39 PM

And? What, exactly, is your point here?

lorien1973 on August 3, 2009 at 4:40 PM

Depends on your definition of “raise” is.

SouthernGent on August 3, 2009 at 4:41 PM

DOW is keeps going up. I guess the stimulus didn’t work

liberal343 on August 3, 2009 at 4:29 PM

The rich white guys on Wall Street get richer while the working middle class suffers! The Republicans always helping out their buddies on Wall Street with government handouts!

The troubadours of rock music have been warning us about “Wall Street” and “millionaires” (other millionaires) for decades. The great voice of the people and Sean Penn’s hero, Phil Ochs, sang of this glorious day when the Dow Jones would be reduced to meaninglessness:

Here comes phil ochs, devil on his shoulder
Carrying his guitar and the weight of the world
But if there’s space for the millionaire,
God there must be space for the troubadour
And while there’s a space, there’s always a chance out there
That a melody lingers, and we keep getting singers
Who’ve got more on their minds than the latest dow jones share.

Dude!

mankai on August 3, 2009 at 4:41 PM

My Schadenfreude meter will go off the charts as these folks face more anger and scrutiny. I normally don’t take pleasure in others misfortunes, but what they intend is so damaging I just won’t be able to help myself.

Ozprey on August 3, 2009 at 4:41 PM

Parody headline: Obama Promises Middle Class He Will Only Tax “Their Credulity” http://optoons.blogspot.com/2009/07/obama-promises-middle-class-he-will.html

Mervis Winter on August 3, 2009 at 4:41 PM

It’s funny when a Dhimmicrat lies

blatantblue on August 3, 2009 at 4:42 PM

It depends on what the meanings of words like “possible” and “are” possibly are.

calbear on August 3, 2009 at 4:40 PM

Plus 5

Buford Gooch on August 3, 2009 at 4:42 PM

Ever think the Dow Jones is going up because Obama’s numbers are going down?

mankai on August 3, 2009 at 4:42 PM

What’s Cap & Tax then?

Raise taxes on the rich and business and everything gets passed down. Prices go up … fees go up … rates go up.

Everything gets passed down to the middle class, especially higher taxes on the wealthy.

Gibbs = liar

darwin on August 3, 2009 at 4:42 PM

He didn’t look like he was even keeping a straight face. Oh you can bet they’ll come up with some kind of tax to hit us with…they’ll pick and choose. Maybe it will a Starbucks drinker…or a wine consumer…they’ll find some way to gouge the middle class at the same time they give them a tax “cut” by giving them cupcake money. Smoke and mirrors.

scalleywag on August 3, 2009 at 4:42 PM

Our Presidential Clunker uses polls, who knew.

tarpon on August 3, 2009 at 4:42 PM

Ever think the Dow Jones is going up because Obama’s numbers are going down?

mankai on August 3, 2009 at 4:42 PM

liberal343 can’t grasp that concept.

darwin on August 3, 2009 at 4:43 PM

and fully 11 percent foresee paying less? Huh?

Dude, step away from the bong.

LastRick on August 3, 2009 at 4:43 PM

liberal:

So the DOW keeps going up? My God, in November 2007 it was over 14,000…it is up from what? They say earnings are up, fine, but revenues are not…so that means earnings are up because they are laying people off. It is also true that money has been pumped into the banks and that in turn has helped their earnings. But meanwhile unemployment and debt just go up and up and up.

Name one single thing in that stimulus that actually lead to an improvement in the economy. Just one thing. A concrete thing.

Terrye on August 3, 2009 at 4:43 PM

LET ME BE CLEAR: They have already inadvertently raised EVERYONE’S FREAKIN’ TAXES!

CynicalOptimist on August 3, 2009 at 4:44 PM

Liar, liar, pants on fire

I wonder if Obama was watching it in the Oval Office laughing his a$$ off.

darwin on August 3, 2009 at 4:44 PM

Leftists touting the Dow Jones going up with unemployment at 10%? What’s next on the docket… “Obscene profits” suddenly becoming less obscene?

mankai on August 3, 2009 at 4:44 PM

Name one single thing in that stimulus that actually lead to an improvement in the economy. Just one thing. A concrete thing.

Terrye on August 3, 2009 at 4:43 PM

Hey! Didn’t Obama say a few weeks ago that it wasn’t really a stimulus bill but a stabilization bill?

Even at that it’s failed.

darwin on August 3, 2009 at 4:45 PM

Remember the old adage?

“How can you tell if he is lying?”
“His lips are moving”

BruceB on August 3, 2009 at 4:45 PM

After the reaction to Geithner, the word has gone out to the White House press operation that the public isn’t yet ready for the prospect of higher taxes on the middle class. So the order of the day is to deny the truth of Geithner’s statement until a new “crisis” can be ginned up. Only then will the sheeple will embrace the need for higher taxes.

Cicero43 on August 3, 2009 at 4:46 PM

Liar, liar, pants on fire

I wonder if Obama was watching it in the Oval Office laughing his a$$ off.

darwin on August 3, 2009 at 4:44 PM

absolutely, every cent of it.

Ozprey on August 3, 2009 at 4:47 PM

Well the mystery has been solved. We now know what happened to Baghdad Bob.

Luka on August 3, 2009 at 4:47 PM

Obama lied. Taxpayers hide.

faraway on August 3, 2009 at 4:47 PM

Terrye on August 3, 2009 at 4:43 PM

How dare you ask for facts?

Playbook

Play #1: “The policies of the last 8 years have failed…” [Note: don't actually try to name which specific policies failed.]

Play #17: When the Dow is up under a Republican administration, it’s just “the rich getting richer”… under a Democrat, it’s a sign that printing money we don’t have is “working.”

mankai on August 3, 2009 at 4:47 PM

Ever think the Dow Jones is going up because Obama’s numbers are going down?

mankai on August 3, 2009 at 4:42 PM

DOW going up has nothing to do with Obama’s poll numbers it has everything to do with stimulus

liberal343 on August 3, 2009 at 4:48 PM

mankai:

I heard that the worse Obama does the better the Dow does, because the traders think that maybe just maybe the Obamacare and crap and trade and the rest of his agenda will die…and so there is hope for real business growth.

Terrye on August 3, 2009 at 4:48 PM

11% think they’ll pay less because A) they truly believe Obama’s claptrap, and B) because when the economy gets even worse more people will fall below the ‘no fed income tax’ leve;.

Number 2 on August 3, 2009 at 4:49 PM

RE: Taxes:

Ed, And the 41% is down from 49% right before the election.

How in the flippin’ world is he gaining credibility on taxes?!?!?

Abby Adams on August 3, 2009 at 4:49 PM

OT:
Have you seen the Socialism poster showing up in LA and other places with BO’s face painted as the Joker? It is up on Drudge linked to Newsbusters. It created so much traffic that Newsbusters has been down all morning.

Wow!

d1carter on August 3, 2009 at 4:50 PM

Name one single thing in that stimulus that actually lead to an improvement in the economy. Just one thing. A concrete thing.

Terrye on August 3, 2009 at 4:43 PM

Increase in the lewdness of Evony ads — was that in there? Whut, no? Ok, I got nothing.

LastRick on August 3, 2009 at 4:50 PM

DOW going up has nothing to do with Obama’s poll numbers it has everything to do with stimulus

liberal343 on August 3, 2009 at 4:48 PM

Hahahahaha hahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahahahaha

I bet that gets used on some comedy show.

darwin on August 3, 2009 at 4:50 PM

Only 41 percent foresee paying more taxes under Hopenchange — and fully 11 percent foresee paying less? Huh?

African-Americans are like 12 or 13 percent of the population.
He’s actually losing the African-Americans.
He’s finished.

joe_doufu on August 3, 2009 at 4:50 PM

DOW going up has nothing to do with Obama’s poll numbers it has everything to do with stimulus

liberal343 on August 3, 2009 at 4:48 PM

And I’m 47 years old an am still going to sing at the Metropolitan Opera someday.

Good Lord.

BigD on August 3, 2009 at 4:50 PM

liberal343 on August 3, 2009 at 4:48 PM

Ever even walk by a business class?

Stock-buying is speculative. The prices caved to 7000 and were well below reflecting actual value. As Obama looks as though he won’t get everything he wants in Cap & Destroy or in Obamacare, the speculation stirs a bullish market. The market loves gridlock.

mankai on August 3, 2009 at 4:51 PM

[The DOW] has everything to do with stimulus

liberal343 on August 3, 2009 at 4:48 PM

Stupidest thing said at Hot Air ever, or just this year???

Abby Adams on August 3, 2009 at 4:51 PM

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