Gibbs: No way, no how, no chance are we raising taxes on the middle class; Update: 54% think tax hikes hurt the economy

posted at 4:23 pm on August 3, 2009 by Allahpundit

Alternate headline: No way, no how, no chance is this tool telling the truth. Rarely will you recognize a future GOP campaign commercial as it’s happening but this certainly qualifies, especially now that the NYT’s broken the bad news that America’s tax base of rich people is not, in fact, inexhaustible. So transparent is Gibbs’s lie, in fact, that no fewer than three separate reporters can be found badgering him about it here, all of them plainly incredulous at The One’s plan to build Great Society II — replete with a trillion-dollar universal health care program — via nothing more than a modest surtax on top earners and some Hopenchange loaves-and-fishes magic. Hold on to your wallets, kids. Exit question: If there’s no way, no how, no chance we’re getting a tax hike, why didn’t TurboTax Tim say that yesterday? Click the image to watch.

Update: Rasmussen sees unsurprising peril for The One lurking in any prospective tax hike but more amazing are the numbers on people’s expectations. Only 41 percent foresee paying more taxes under Hopenchange — and fully 11 percent foresee paying less? Huh?


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The 11% that think our taxes will go DOWN obviously graduated from the Chicago Public School system, formerly run by the current head of Obama’s Dept. of Education, Arne Duncan.
50% drop-out rates are the norm, and the percentage of CPS graduates finally graduating from college? 2%. No wonder half of America is under this empty suit’s thrall: free cars, free big screen TVs, free cell phones, free healthcare and free rent. Sign me up. Oh, yeah.

bradley11 on August 3, 2009 at 4:51 PM

“R-r-r-ead Obama’s lips…”

Upstater85 on August 3, 2009 at 4:51 PM

Why didn’t anyone ask Gibbs if Geithner is going to be fired for committing truth in public?

rockmom on August 3, 2009 at 4:51 PM

Lies and the Lying Liars Who Tell Them: A Fair and Balanced Look at the RightLeft

MadisonConservative on August 3, 2009 at 4:51 PM

liberal343 on August 3, 2009 at 4:48 PM

This is a special kind of stupid right here. Banking the future health of the economy on the stock market, while ignoring every other sign out there.

lorien1973 on August 3, 2009 at 4:52 PM

So does this mean that Obama and Co. are going to extend the Bush tax cuts next year? Without such an extension, then a tax increase on the middle class is most certainly in the near future.

thirteen28 on August 3, 2009 at 4:27 PM

Absolutely no way the extend the Bush tax cuts. But the beauty part for them is that most people who have taxes withheld – as opposed to those of us who file quarterly estimates – will blithely continue as usual through 2010 and not feel the hit until April 15, 2011 – after the mid-term elections.

Unfortunately, most people are so dim that they actually think a tax refund is like hitting a little jackpot.

guntotinglibertarian on August 3, 2009 at 4:52 PM

These people aren’t using their heads. What they should do is increase taxes by 10% to all the kazillionaires.

Problem solved. Right Turbo?

Speaking of Turbo Tim, did any of you see that clip from the Daily Show where their beat reporter was talking to a Real Estate agent, who was going on about the house they were standing in front, saying the owner bought the house for about a mil-and-a-half and in a depressed market the owner just put his house up for sale and RAISED the price above the original purchase price.

The reporter said “Whoevr owns that house is an idiot, do you know who owns it?”

To which the agent said, “It’s Tim Geithner’s house.”

fogw on August 3, 2009 at 4:52 PM

No higher taxes…

No GITMO in the in the States…

Hmmm…

Upstater85 on August 3, 2009 at 4:53 PM

Taxes going down under Obama and a Democrat controlled Congress? That qualifies for a full on belly laugh.

myrenovations on August 3, 2009 at 4:53 PM

and fully 11 percent foresee paying less? Huh?

Simple, they believed the Obama ads about “many will actually see a tax cut under my plan.”

Dummies.

cs89 on August 3, 2009 at 4:53 PM

Watch what happens to the stock market when interest rates start to slowly creep back up.

Sapwolf on August 3, 2009 at 4:53 PM

I envision Obama and Timmay sitting in the oval office with a worn out pencil and lots of paper crumbled into little balls on the floor.

Carry the three…7+3 is 12…(erases)…11. No wait..10, right?

(crumbles)

We need a trillion more dollars. If we make that four a two and multiply by the number of people you say you can raise from the dead via Acorn…then count next years tax revenue against this quarter, we’re…still 560 billion short…

(crumbles)

Eh…fark it. Let’s just print some more. Who’s gonna say anything?

Thunderstorm129 on August 3, 2009 at 4:54 PM

liberal343 on August 3, 2009 at 4:48 PM

Well then, by that logic, since only a fraction of the stimulus has been spent, we can expect DOW 30k by 2012. That is what you’re telling us, right?

volnation on August 3, 2009 at 4:54 PM

11% will pay less taxes cuz that many will be unemployed.

Zing!

lorien1973 on August 3, 2009 at 4:54 PM

I believe him. I also believe the Sham Wow man and I just bought the Statute of Liberty.

MaiDee on August 3, 2009 at 4:54 PM

Well then, by that logic, since only a fraction of the stimulus has been spent, we can expect DOW 30k by 2012. That is what you’re telling us, right?

volnation on August 3, 2009 at 4:54 PM

Hehe

Obamajicmath

Upstater85 on August 3, 2009 at 4:54 PM

That 11% has a 100% overlap with the group that was convinced that Obama was going to buy gas for them and pay off their mortgage prior to the elections.

MarkTheGreat on August 3, 2009 at 4:54 PM

Joe Biden steps out…

“I know what Gibbs said, but here’s what he MEANT to say…”

Daggett on August 3, 2009 at 4:55 PM

11% will pay less taxes cuz that many will be unemployed.

Zing!

lorien1973 on August 3, 2009 at 4:54 PM

Ah, that would explain it.

myrenovations on August 3, 2009 at 4:55 PM

Liberal343 was a Racist Troll as nice343 and he hasn’t changed a bit.

kingsjester on August 3, 2009 at 4:55 PM

And if the DOW starts to fall again, then what?

Terrye on August 3, 2009 at 4:32 PM

Then we switch back to “BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSH did it“.

C’mon, Terrye, learn the lib playbook or go warm the bench.
Sheesh!

;-)

VibrioCocci on August 3, 2009 at 4:56 PM

As Obama looks as though he won’t get everything he wants in Cap & Destroy or in Obamacare, the speculation stirs a bullish market. The market loves gridlock.

mankai on August 3, 2009 at 4:51 PM

spot on. let us hope Geithner and his cronies don’t crash it down the road….

Ozprey on August 3, 2009 at 4:56 PM

We got a tax cut after Obama took office?

I think they missed me.

Jaynie59 on August 3, 2009 at 4:58 PM

So what are the alternatives to raising taxes on the middle class? Borrowing even more money? Printing money? Soaking the rich with a 50+% federal income tax rate? Seriously, what can they do to avoid trillion dollar deficits for the forseeable future?

Doughboy on August 3, 2009 at 4:58 PM

Gibbs is spinning faster than an Iranian centrifuge.

faraway on August 3, 2009 at 4:58 PM

Obama is going to have to lean hard on the Senate for his Cash for Clunkers…

Upstater85 on August 3, 2009 at 4:59 PM

I really get tired of having to point out AGAIN that Barry already raised taxes on millions of middle class Americans.

corona on August 3, 2009 at 4:59 PM

Gibbs is spinning faster than an Iranian centrifuge.

faraway on August 3, 2009 at 4:58 PM

Oh man… now that’s a comment.

strictnein on August 3, 2009 at 5:00 PM

Absolutely no way the extend the Bush tax cuts. But the beauty part for them is that most people who have taxes withheld – as opposed to those of us who file quarterly estimates – will blithely continue as usual through 2010 and not feel the hit until April 15, 2011 – after the mid-term elections.

Unfortunately, most people are so dim that they actually think a tax refund is like hitting a little jackpot.

guntotinglibertarian on August 3, 2009 at 4:52 PM

Thing is, though, Republican candidates, if they were smart (yes, a shaky proposition to be sure) could make a big issue of this in next year’s midterms. They could argue that by failing to extend the Bush tax cuts, the Obama administration is effectively raising taxes on the middle class. Sure, they left will counter that they are just letting tax rates for the evil rich go back up, but their credibility will still be shot by then, not to mention the fact that the Bush tax cuts did benefit the middle class too.

It’s a campaign issue just waiting for the GOP on a silver platter. Rove, The Magnificent Bastard, knew what he was doing by having the tax cuts expire at the end of 2010.

thirteen28 on August 3, 2009 at 5:00 PM

VibrioCocci:

No doubt. How could I have missed that?

Well, look at this way, Democrats are just blaming the bad economy on Bush anyway so if it gets better then I guess they have one less thing to hang on Republicans.

Sure….

Terrye on August 3, 2009 at 5:00 PM

as opposed to those of us who file quarterly estimates

guntotinglibertarian on August 3, 2009 at 4:52 PM

What’s this?

Esthier on August 3, 2009 at 5:00 PM

I’ve been reassured that I will not see any news taxes. Obama plans on cutting another 78 million dollars from the budget. Where I come from, that’s a lot of money.

/sarc

Thunderstorm129 on August 3, 2009 at 5:01 PM

DOW is keeps going up. I guess the stimulus didn’t work

liberal343 on August 3, 2009 at 4:29 PM

That’s because the adults are in charge now.

getalife.

Del Dolemonte on August 3, 2009 at 5:01 PM

Thing is, though, Republican candidates, if they were smart (yes, a shaky proposition to be sure) could make a big issue of this in next year’s midterms. They could argue that by failing to extend the Bush tax cuts, the Obama administration is effectively raising taxes on the middle class. Sure, they left will counter that they are just letting tax rates for the evil rich go back up, but their credibility will still be shot by then, not to mention the fact that the Bush tax cuts did benefit the middle class too.

It’s a campaign issue just waiting for the GOP on a silver platter. Rove, The Magnificent Bastard, knew what he was doing by having the tax cuts expire at the end of 2010.

thirteen28 on August 3, 2009 at 5:00 PM

My guess is that the “Bush tax cuts for the rich” meme is too firmly entrenched and that the class envy the middle class feels for “the rich” is virulent enough that they will smile smugly instead of rising up.

guntotinglibertarian on August 3, 2009 at 5:02 PM

What’s this?

Esthier on August 3, 2009 at 5:00 PM

What’s your question?

guntotinglibertarian on August 3, 2009 at 5:03 PM

So what are the alternatives to raising taxes on the middle class? Borrowing even more money? Printing money? Soaking the rich with a 50+% federal income tax rate? Seriously, what can they do to avoid trillion dollar deficits for the forseeable future?

Doughboy on August 3, 2009 at 4:58 PM

They need to concentrate on policies that will encourage new business formation and hiring, PERIOD. And NOT expanding government any further until the revenues return.

rockmom on August 3, 2009 at 5:04 PM

Doughboy on August 3, 2009 at 4:58 PM

There are no alternatives that Ogabe will consider, precisely because the more people standing in line to get government cheese, the better for him. He wants desperation, it’s part of his plan and you can bet your socks that Ogabe doesn’t give a flying shiite about average Americans.

Bishop on August 3, 2009 at 5:04 PM

We got a tax cut after Obama took office?

I think they missed me.

Jaynie59 on August 3, 2009 at 4:58 PM

They jiggered around with the payroll taxes. You should be getting an extra $13 a month now.

myrenovations on August 3, 2009 at 5:04 PM

So what are the alternatives to raising taxes on the middle class? Borrowing even more money? Printing money? Soaking the rich with a 50+% federal income tax rate? Seriously, what can they do to avoid trillion dollar deficits for the forseeable future?

Doughboy on August 3, 2009 at 4:58 PM

Cut spending. How novel…

ladyingray on August 3, 2009 at 5:05 PM

Stupidest thing said at Hot Air ever, or just this year???

Abby Adams on August 3, 2009 at 4:51 PM

Naw. getalife’s “the adults are in charge now” still takes the prize.

Del Dolemonte on August 3, 2009 at 5:05 PM

Gibbs……you suck!

Fighton03 on August 3, 2009 at 5:05 PM

What’s your question?

guntotinglibertarian on August 3, 2009 at 5:03 PM

What are the quarterly estimates?

Esthier on August 3, 2009 at 5:06 PM

So what are the alternatives to raising taxes on the middle class? Borrowing even more money? Printing money? Soaking the rich with a 50+% federal income tax rate? Seriously, what can they do to avoid trillion dollar deficits for the forseeable future?

Doughboy on August 3, 2009 at 4:58 PM

The only responsible thing to do is cut discretionary spending, cut Medicare and Medicaid benefits, cut Social Security benefits. We’ve known for a long time that those programs were unsustainable.

Of course, Congress will not do the responsible thing, so they will try to either tax or inflate their way out of the conundrum. Either road leads to disaster and permanent lowering of living standards.

We’ve been living in a dream world for a long time now. Instead of saving for retirement and medical expenses, we’ve been on a decades-long consumption orgy.

All of that comes to a screeching halt in 5, 4, 3, 2…

guntotinglibertarian on August 3, 2009 at 5:07 PM

I know who the 11% are, it’s the same entitlement crowd that thinks Obama will pay their mortgages, but who the hell is the 41% who still don’t expect to pay taxes?

John_Locke on August 3, 2009 at 5:08 PM

It’s high time we execute all those 46% of Americans who don’t think tax hikes hurt the economy. Any estimate on how many of them fall into the category of “no income tax”?

Our country is full of stupid people. No government policy is going to cure that. We’re all screwed. I’m finally coming around to Allahpundit’s Eyeore outlook on life. Kiss your grass goodbye, America!

cackcon on August 3, 2009 at 5:10 PM

There are no alternatives that Ogabe will consider, precisely because the more people standing in line to get government cheese, the better for him. He wants desperation, it’s part of his plan and you can bet your socks that Ogabe doesn’t give a flying shiite about average Americans.

Bishop on August 3, 2009 at 5:04 PM

I know this.

You know this.

But what amazes me is every time I read it I still can’t fathom how or why our pseudo-leaders become so drunk (or is that punch drunk?) with power that they want to turn more Americans (or any human being) into slaves of the system.

I’m baffled.

VibrioCocci on August 3, 2009 at 5:10 PM

What are the quarterly estimates?

Esthier on August 3, 2009 at 5:06 PM

When you are a business owner, you do not pay income tax through withholding from a pay check.

Instead, you (your accountant, really) have to estimate what your total annual tax liability will be and then pay that to the IRS in the form of 4 quarterly checks.

So, if you’re cutting checks for, say, $48,000 to the IRS every 3 months, you tend to get really pissed off – as opposed to folks who have it taken one pay check at a time and probably never even look at their pay stub.

Congress knew this a long time ago, which is why they instituted withholding. It’s like the old parable of a frog in a pot of boiling water.

guntotinglibertarian on August 3, 2009 at 5:11 PM

But what amazes me is every time I read it I still can’t fathom how or why our pseudo-leaders become so drunk (or is that punch drunk?) with power that they want to turn more Americans (or any human being) into slaves of the system.

I’m baffled.

VibrioCocci on August 3, 2009 at 5:10 PM

Because it’s for your own good, you poor little simpleton. As Ogabe says, it’s perfectly clear to him. You just aren’t smart enough to understand.

guntotinglibertarian on August 3, 2009 at 5:13 PM

Maybe Obama will announce the:

NEW DOLLAR

Sapwolf on August 3, 2009 at 5:14 PM

then why couldn’t turbo tax man say that on the sunday show. What a bunch of phony liars

rjoco1 on August 3, 2009 at 5:15 PM

Gibbs is the best press sexretary the United States of America has ever had. I hope he runs against Obama in 2012.

daesleeper on August 3, 2009 at 5:15 PM

guntotinglibertarian on August 3, 2009 at 5:11 PM

Ah. Thanks. I have to admit though, I was more upset when I got a rebate for $2,000 than I was for when we had to pay out $1,600, because I couldn’t believe the government had taken that much more than its “fair” share.

Wasn’t too happy about the $1,600 either though. My husband messed up our records.

Esthier on August 3, 2009 at 5:16 PM

Naw. getalife’s “the adults are in charge now” still takes the prize.

Del Dolemonte on August 3, 2009 at 5:05 PM

That was getalife?

I remember laughing hard at that one. In fact I laughed at that on another website too, but the name escapes me.

Sapwolf on August 3, 2009 at 5:16 PM

guntotinglibertarian on August 3, 2009 at 5:07 PM

The two pronged benefits of tort reform would probably reduce costs by at least 30%, but that won’t even get a look. Wealth redistribution doesn’t always favor just the poor when lawyers make the rules.

a capella on August 3, 2009 at 5:17 PM

DOW is keeps going up. I guess the stimulus didn’t work

liberal343 on August 3, 2009 at 4:29 PM

If your conclusion is such, then I suppose you would be able to explain the cause?

OT:

Assuming taxes won’t be raised before the Bush cuts expire, what will be said after?

anuts on August 3, 2009 at 5:17 PM

Because it’s for your own good, you poor little simpleton. As Ogabe says, it’s perfectly clear to him. You just aren’t smart enough to understand.

guntotinglibertarian on August 3, 2009 at 5:13 PM

Andrea Mitchell made that point. We aren’t smart enough to know what’s good for us.

a capella on August 3, 2009 at 5:20 PM

I heard that the worse Obama does the better the Dow does, because the traders think that maybe just maybe the Obamacare and crap and trade and the rest of his agenda will die…and so there is hope for real business growth.

Terrye on August 3, 2009 at 4:48 PM

THAT is the reason. It will trend down if Obamacare or Cap’nTax pass both the House and Senate and get signed into law. Assuming the gov. puts down all the riots.

Sapwolf on August 3, 2009 at 5:21 PM

On a more positive note, I found a website that sells fashionable shackles and chains for the fashion conscious indentured servant.

VibrioCocci on August 3, 2009 at 5:22 PM

54%, ya, unless it’s on the backs of the rich.

sheesh on August 3, 2009 at 5:23 PM

Update: 54% think tax hikes hurt the economy

In other news: 46% are ignorant, foolish, or both.

Grafted on August 3, 2009 at 5:25 PM

How can you tells that Gibbs is lying?

His lips are moving…

Khun Joe on August 3, 2009 at 4:33 PM

Actually the answer to this question about Gibbs would be the same answer for the entire administration.

How do you know when they are lying?

They are breathing.

You see, if they haven’t just finished lying, or are lying at this moment, then they are getting ready to lie.

Yoop on August 3, 2009 at 5:26 PM

A bald faced LIE.

shaken on August 3, 2009 at 5:28 PM

“Let me be clear. I’ve always said the middle class was in the $10,000-$20,000 per year gross adjusted income range…”

Caper29 on August 3, 2009 at 5:28 PM

The two pronged benefits of tort reform would probably reduce costs by at least 30%, but that won’t even get a look. Wealth redistribution doesn’t always favor just the poor when lawyers make the rules.

a capella on August 3, 2009 at 5:17 PM

Well, whatever the benefits of tort reform, nothing bails us out of the insane promises made by FDR and LBJ.

Demographics are destiny. Social Security and Medicare were based upon a premise that couples would continue to have 4 children, with the paying populace growing exponentially, so that by the time you reached 62, your 4 children and 16 grandchildren would be paying for your benefits.

Typical straight-line projection fallacy.

Those programs were also premised on a life expectancy of around 65 years, so that most people would be dead before they collected significant benefits. In a way, we’ve been hoisted by the petard of our own advanced medical care.

And, to top if off, Congress kept increasing Social Security and Medicare benefits while adding Medicaid to the toxic mix.

I remember reading a few years ago that we were only a generation or so behind Europe in the race to total economic collapse. Looks like we’ve pretty well narrowed the gap. And with Boomers getting ready to jump on the gravy train, we just might catch up entirely.

Soylent Green time, folks.

guntotinglibertarian on August 3, 2009 at 5:32 PM

Andrea Mitchell made that point. We aren’t smart enough to know what’s good for us.

a capella on August 3, 2009 at 5:20 PM

No, you aren’t. Now shut up, you dumb little ingrate.

guntotinglibertarian on August 3, 2009 at 5:33 PM

Ah. Thanks. I have to admit though, I was more upset when I got a rebate for $2,000 than I was for when we had to pay out $1,600, because I couldn’t believe the government had taken that much more than its “fair” share.

Well, we didn’t even get the $2,000 “rebate”. We’re too “rich”, you see. Instead we got hammered with an additional $21,000 in Alternative Minimum Tax.

guntotinglibertarian on August 3, 2009 at 5:34 PM

If I remember correctly, GHB said, ‘Read my lips: No New Taxes.’
We know how that worked out.
’0′ says, ‘I’m not gonna raise your taxes.’
Operative word is ‘raise.’
Look out for new taxes.
Operative word is ‘your.’
Income taxes might not go up, mostly because you’ll make less, but watch taxes on Lucky Charms go through the roof.

TinMan13 on August 3, 2009 at 5:40 PM

A few follow-up questions for Baghdad Bob Gibbs:

“…how much money has to be borrowed as a result of financial stabilization…?” WTF does that mean?

“95% of the taxpayers have already received a tax cut…” Is Gibbs confused about the arithmetic of a $300 billion tax cut and $4 trillion in new spending?

What about the new $33 billion cigarette tax?

Bob, explain the meaning of a $1.8 trillion deficit as a financial concept.

Jaibones on August 3, 2009 at 5:45 PM

Cap n trade is a tax
Inflation of the currency is a tax

There are a million wonderful ways to sheer the sheep.

guntotinglibertarian on August 3, 2009 at 5:45 PM

My favorite part is where he tries to blame Bush, yet again.

ConservadorRebelde on August 3, 2009 at 5:46 PM

DOW going up has nothing to do with Obama’s poll numbers it has everything to do with stimulus

liberal343 on August 3, 2009 at 4:48 PM

You know a liberal’s out of spin when he talks about the stock market in any sort of positive light.

Chuck Schick on August 3, 2009 at 5:51 PM

liberal123 doesn’t even know what the DOW is.

daesleeper on August 3, 2009 at 5:54 PM

DOW is keeps going up. I guess the stimulus didn’t work

liberal343 on August 3, 2009 at 4:29 PM

Actually it’s due to the magic rock I have in my pocket. Wonder how I know it works? Well my magic rock also keeps sharks away from me. I haven’s seen a shark since I got my rock…

Have any proof or at least a reasoned argument as to how the ‘stimulus’ – most of which was wasted by states trying to bandage their bleeding budgets or to Democrat special interest groups – accomplished this?

gwelf on August 3, 2009 at 5:54 PM

“So transparent is Gibbs’s lie, in fact, that no fewer than three separate reporters can be found badgering him about it here ….”

Well, they do have the option of sending out doctor assisted suicide notices to a lot more not-so-valuable citizens, so I’ll give Gibbs the benefit of the doubt here.

Dusty on August 3, 2009 at 6:00 PM

Actually it’s due to the magic rock I have in my pocket. Wonder how I know it works? Well my magic rock also keeps sharks away from me. I haven’s seen a shark since I got my rock…

Have any proof or at least a reasoned argument as to how the ’stimulus’ – most of which was wasted by states trying to bandage their bleeding budgets or to Democrat special interest groups – accomplished this?

gwelf on August 3, 2009 at 5:54 PM

Get in line. nice343 was just about to buy my jock strap of invincibility. 39 years and I’ve never died.

Chuck Schick on August 3, 2009 at 6:01 PM

DOW is keeps going up. I guess the stimulus didn’t work

liberal343 on August 3, 2009 at 4:29 P

Not that you’ll understand this, liberal, but the DOW is going up for a number of reasons, none of which puts Ogabe in a positive light:

1. Shell-shocked Americans who took a huge hit on their retirement savings have stopped consuming and started saving.

2. Foreign investors – particularly governments – have decided that the casino of the stock market is a better bet than the increasingly-worthless U.S. Treasury bond.

3. Corporate earnings have improved considerably – largely because businesses have fired so many workers and cut back on spending.

4. Money has flowed out of emerging-market investments because the current depression is global and investors see U.S. stocks as a safer haven than those of, say, Kenya.

5. Commodity prices have declined as a result of decreased demand, so investors have shifted out of commodities and into equities.

6. Professional investors see the very real possibility that Ogabe is going to crack down on “speculation” in commodity markets, so they are fleeing to equities.

7. Since Ogabe took office, the price of ponies and unicorns has skyrocketed.

8. There are several ETF’s linked to the size of Michelle Obama’s ass, which has exploded over the past 6 months.

guntotinglibertarian on August 3, 2009 at 6:06 PM

Get in line. nice343 was just about to buy my jock strap of invincibility. 39 years and I’ve never died.

Chuck Schick on August 3, 2009 at 6:01 PM

You shouldn’t be so willing to part with it. 100% of people that eat a pickle will die.

ConservadorRebelde on August 3, 2009 at 6:08 PM

Gibbs is also the author of “President Obama did NOT bow to the saudi king: No Way, No How, No Chance”

Secretary of Mistruth

TN Mom on August 3, 2009 at 6:12 PM

DOW is keeps going up. I guess the stimulus didn’t work

liberal343 on August 3, 2009 at 4:29 PM

If your conclusion is such, then I suppose you would be able to explain the cause?

anuts on August 3, 2009 at 5:17 PM

Because the government sucks at trading, and the market senses an easy kill.

http://www.financialweek.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20090205/REG/902059981/1036

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/ffa60e50-7f8c-11de-85dc-00144feabdc0.html?nclick_check=1

Free money poorly spent.

Fighton03 on August 3, 2009 at 6:12 PM

It’s not a tax on the middle class.
It’s a tax on the people who smoke.

It’s not a tax on the middle class.
It’s a tax on people who use carbon.

It’s not a tax on the middle class.
It’s a tax on people who ____________________.

Jason Coleman on August 3, 2009 at 6:13 PM

..let this crap stack up on them no matter who tells these whoppers. It will zing them all the more when they have to go back on their word.

Personally, I think a lot of the Democrats in this country are cruising along because their Boy King is “in the house”. There’s a lot of Bravo Sierra floating around about how it’s still a blue state country. (See the Gallup article above.)

Just like the Republican voters who snoozed their way into getting The Class Clown elected, the Dems will experience fecal downpour because they are either apithetic or will have become disenchanted with the crap Obama and the crew are trying to pull.

VoyskaPVO on August 3, 2009 at 6:29 PM

Obama has been really good at creating the illusion that 95% of the taxpayers are the middle class and the top 5% are those rich folks that are going to pay for everything Obama wants. What I’d like to see is some reporter or TV interviewer to ask Obama where the middle class begins, since he has of yet to define that in his Draconian language. What’s the top income for the middle class in ObamaLanguage? I betcha it doesn’t start at $249K annually. I betcha it starts at the income tax rates for those not paying any taxes.

Texas Gal on August 3, 2009 at 6:34 PM

Jason Coleman on August 3, 2009 at 6:13 PM

That wasn’t nice. Now you are going to cause all the trolls to drop out since the quiz is too darned difficult.

chemman on August 3, 2009 at 6:35 PM

“R-r-r-ead Obama’s lips…”

Upstater85 on August 3, 2009 at 4:51 PM

Well, sir, those are some mighty big lips to read….

But who is goin to believe a lying Marxist??

izoneguy on August 3, 2009 at 6:42 PM

This is easy. They’re just going to redefine “middle class”. 30K/yr will now become upper-middle class. $30,001 and above are all greedy rich folks.

jack herman on August 3, 2009 at 6:52 PM

No they won’t increase “Taxes”, just “Fees” and “Surcharges”.
See how that works?

ronsfi on August 3, 2009 at 7:08 PM

When are the people of this country going to see these liars for what they are?

farright on August 3, 2009 at 7:11 PM

how many people on this site & others have said they just won’t pay any more taxes. period. i think it was when tax cheat timmy was confirmed that this view was advanced.

also, people are saying they will barter more, not report cash or just flat out lie.

kelley in virginia on August 3, 2009 at 7:21 PM

(some liberal): DOW keeps going up

Well, some liberal, if you wish to go long in equities, then do so, but know that you are investing at a time when the DOW is priced at roughly 700x earnings. Liberal logic, though, will allow you to believe that you will realize a return on your investment.

The trajectory of the excrement continues to indicate a direct intersection with the turbine blades in the not too distant future.

I can only hope that the big labor unions, “foundations”, and Acorns of this world are investing all their cash on hand into this market big time.

shaken on August 3, 2009 at 8:30 PM

That ballon they floated sunk like a lead ballon. But with Barry, the “truth” is what he said today, never mind tomorrow, when the new “truth” comes along.

bayview on August 3, 2009 at 8:44 PM

Message to Gibbs:
Read My Lipps……LIAR

BigMike252 on August 4, 2009 at 3:01 AM

Team Soetero truly exhibits the “Audacity of Mendacity.”

We will see all taxes significantly increased. Local, Federal, State, business, sales,”user fees,” fines, etc.,etc.

Most of this cash will be skimmed off the top and distributed to the friends and associates of the party.

Conservatives in this country better wake up and get pro-active! They are taking the prosperity and productiveness of America away from us on purpose–to create a nation of dependent chattle.

Everybody on this site! Organize! Protest vociferously! Answer every challenge! Demand answers for every question! Don’t let up, or you LOSE YOUR WAY OF LIFE!

badcrow on August 4, 2009 at 9:57 AM

But what amazes me is every time I read it I still can’t fathom how or why our pseudo-leaders become so drunk (or is that punch drunk?) with power that they want to turn more Americans (or any human being) into slaves of the system.

I’m baffled.
VibrioCocci on August

That you know they are drunk with power is enough. The quest for power is self-perpetuating. Trying to understand how they got that way is like trying to understand how child molesters got that way. It doesn’t matter. Just identify them and rid society of them. We spend too much time agonizing over “why”.

SKYFOX on August 4, 2009 at 10:34 AM

You can always tell when anyone in the Obama administration is lying. Their lips are moving.

TrickyDick on August 4, 2009 at 1:43 PM

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