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		<title>By: Stimulus Improves Infrastructure. Not! &#171; Cynical Synapse</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2009/07/31/surprise-stimulus-not-stimulating-construction-industry-infrastructure-repair/comment-page-2/#comment-2659887</link>
		<dc:creator>Stimulus Improves Infrastructure. Not! &#171; Cynical Synapse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Sep 2009 03:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Politics, Rants &#8212; cynicalsynapse @ 11:05 pm   One of the big benefits claimed for the Stimulus Bill was infrastructure improvement. I&#8217;m having a hard time finding evidence of that. On top of that, it&#8217;s hard to find [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Politics, Rants &#8212; cynicalsynapse @ 11:05 pm   One of the big benefits claimed for the Stimulus Bill was infrastructure improvement. I&#8217;m having a hard time finding evidence of that. On top of that, it&#8217;s hard to find [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Ace of Spades HQ</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ace of Spades HQ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Aug 2009 00:01:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;John McCain acting like...well, John McCain...&lt;/strong&gt;

Maverick!Its very clear that the stimulus has had some effect, the former Republican presidential nominee said. And Ill be glad to give him credit for that, McCain, the 2008 Republican presidential nominee, said Sunday on the CNN program ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>John McCain acting like&#8230;well, John McCain&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>Maverick!Its very clear that the stimulus has had some effect, the former Republican presidential nominee said. And Ill be glad to give him credit for that, McCain, the 2008 Republican presidential nominee, said Sunday on the CNN program &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Common Sense 2020 &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Bad Bridges NOT Getting Stimulus Help</title>
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		<dc:creator>Common Sense 2020 &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Bad Bridges NOT Getting Stimulus Help</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Aug 2009 17:48:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: The Galling, Appalling Waste of &#8220;Cash for Clunkers&#8221; &#171; Frugal Café Blog Zone</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Galling, Appalling Waste of &#8220;Cash for Clunkers&#8221; &#171; Frugal Café Blog Zone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Aug 2009 16:49:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Cash for clunkers runs out of money … after one week; Update: Feds scramble to save program and Surprise: Stimulus not stimulating construction industry, infrastructure repair The Family Technology Blog: Glenn Beck: Cars.gov allows government to takeover your computer. Wake [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Glenn Beck Warns &#8216;Cash for Clunkers&#8217; Website As Government Scam to Gain Access to Everything&#8211;Yes, EVERYTHING&#8211;on Your Computer &#171; Frugal Café Blog Zone</title>
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		<dc:creator>Glenn Beck Warns &#8216;Cash for Clunkers&#8217; Website As Government Scam to Gain Access to Everything&#8211;Yes, EVERYTHING&#8211;on Your Computer &#171; Frugal Café Blog Zone</dc:creator>
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		<description>[...] Cash for clunkers runs out of money … after one week; Update: Feds scramble to save program and Surprise: Stimulus not stimulating construction industry, infrastructure repair The Family Technology Blog: Glenn Beck: Cars.gov allows government to takeover your computer. Wake [...]</description>
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		<title>By: A Solitary Conspiracy</title>
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		<dc:creator>A Solitary Conspiracy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Aug 2009 13:20:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Stimulus not stimulating some key sectors, but will it&#160;matter?...&lt;/strong&gt;

Allahpundit&#8217;s Hot Air post Surprise: Stimulus not stimulating construction industry, infrastructure repair reflects my own sentiments about the recovery, Presidential approval ratings, the risks of conservative over-confidence, and Republican par...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Stimulus not stimulating some key sectors, but will it&nbsp;matter?&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>Allahpundit&#8217;s Hot Air post Surprise: Stimulus not stimulating construction industry, infrastructure repair reflects my own sentiments about the recovery, Presidential approval ratings, the risks of conservative over-confidence, and Republican par&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Mommynator</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mommynator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 23:02:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My husband works for a large structural steel company located in NJ and PA. For the last five years, they have had severe overtime - working six days a week, sometimes 70 hours.

Since the Great Stupid took office, they have not landed any new contracts past December of this year. Everyone is re-evaluating their construction and renovation jobs, and His Idiocy&#039;s policies have raised the prices of raw steel, steel beams and all the fixins that get attached.

Not only is there no overtime any more, but the hours have been cut so nobody gets laid off.

Don&#039;t ask me about my blood pressure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My husband works for a large structural steel company located in NJ and PA. For the last five years, they have had severe overtime &#8211; working six days a week, sometimes 70 hours.</p>
<p>Since the Great Stupid took office, they have not landed any new contracts past December of this year. Everyone is re-evaluating their construction and renovation jobs, and His Idiocy&#8217;s policies have raised the prices of raw steel, steel beams and all the fixins that get attached.</p>
<p>Not only is there no overtime any more, but the hours have been cut so nobody gets laid off.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t ask me about my blood pressure.</p>
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		<title>By: DSchoen</title>
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		<dc:creator>DSchoen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 21:57:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Well, we learned one thing. Want stimulus? Target specifically.
The Cash for Clunkers is actually working. The other parts of the stimulus are a flop.
AnninCA&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Ah yes, people want free money!  Who coulda thunk it!

Apparently not the brainiacs in Obama’s Admin.

So lets look at “Cash for Clunkers” as a “teaching moment” an extremely expensive “teaching moment”.

The brainiac Obama figured they funded the “Cash for Clunkers” program for four months, it went broke in four days.

Hey, his math was only off by a factor of 30 to 1 (3000% ?)


The teaching moment?  

Obama says his health care reform will only cost 1 trillion dollars we can apply this lesson figure it will actually cost 30 trillion.

And like the “Cash for Clunkers” program, if it cost more than that we just spend more on it.

We will get a $6000. tax on each pack of smokes!
Problem solved! it works on paper!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Well, we learned one thing. Want stimulus? Target specifically.<br />
The Cash for Clunkers is actually working. The other parts of the stimulus are a flop.<br />
AnninCA</p></blockquote>
<p>Ah yes, people want free money!  Who coulda thunk it!</p>
<p>Apparently not the brainiacs in Obama’s Admin.</p>
<p>So lets look at “Cash for Clunkers” as a “teaching moment” an extremely expensive “teaching moment”.</p>
<p>The brainiac Obama figured they funded the “Cash for Clunkers” program for four months, it went broke in four days.</p>
<p>Hey, his math was only off by a factor of 30 to 1 (3000% ?)</p>
<p>The teaching moment?  </p>
<p>Obama says his health care reform will only cost 1 trillion dollars we can apply this lesson figure it will actually cost 30 trillion.</p>
<p>And like the “Cash for Clunkers” program, if it cost more than that we just spend more on it.</p>
<p>We will get a $6000. tax on each pack of smokes!<br />
Problem solved! it works on paper!</p>
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		<title>By: Terrye</title>
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		<dc:creator>Terrye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 21:25:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Allah:

The fact that the economy did not contract as much as some people expected does not change the fact that we are still in a recession. I don&#039;t think that is going to get a lot better any time soon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Allah:</p>
<p>The fact that the economy did not contract as much as some people expected does not change the fact that we are still in a recession. I don&#8217;t think that is going to get a lot better any time soon.</p>
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		<title>By: The Ugly American</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Ugly American</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 19:27:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The LADWP has had the same strip of road (Whitsett btwn Moorpark &amp; Magnolia) torn up for over a year now.

Just how long does it take to replace a freakin&#039; sewer line?

Thank gawd I&#039;m not a resident on that strip cause I would&#039;ve gone &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N8b3963VRW4&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;D-FENS&lt;/a&gt; on them a long time ago.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The LADWP has had the same strip of road (Whitsett btwn Moorpark &amp; Magnolia) torn up for over a year now.</p>
<p>Just how long does it take to replace a freakin&#8217; sewer line?</p>
<p>Thank gawd I&#8217;m not a resident on that strip cause I would&#8217;ve gone <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N8b3963VRW4" rel="nofollow">D-FENS</a> on them a long time ago.</p>
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		<title>By: Stop The ACLU</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stop The ACLU</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 18:41:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Obama Stimulus Not Stimulating...&lt;/strong&gt;

As the Obamacare balloon loses air, and Obama&#8217;s numbers crash, a driving factor is the failed stimulus.
Washington Post:
President Obama’s $787 billion stimulus plan is having little effect on job creation within the general-construction indust...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Obama Stimulus Not Stimulating&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>As the Obamacare balloon loses air, and Obama&#8217;s numbers crash, a driving factor is the failed stimulus.<br />
Washington Post:<br />
President Obama’s $787 billion stimulus plan is having little effect on job creation within the general-construction indust&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Keith_Indy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Keith_Indy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 18:21:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Boy that goofy picture of him reminds me of something...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billie_%22Buckwheat%22_Thomas</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Boy that goofy picture of him reminds me of something&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billie_%22Buckwheat%22_Thomas" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billie_%22Buckwheat%22_Thomas</a></p>
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		<title>By: Rightwingguy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rightwingguy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 18:07:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The stimulus isn&#039;t supposed to stimulate. Its supposed to give a light tingle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The stimulus isn&#8217;t supposed to stimulate. Its supposed to give a light tingle.</p>
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		<title>By: the_nile</title>
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		<dc:creator>the_nile</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 17:42:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;boqueronman on July 31, 2009 at 12:42 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>boqueronman on July 31, 2009 at 12:42 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>++++</p>
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		<title>By: Beer Summit &#8216;Quote of the Day&#8217; &#171; Frugal Café Blog Zone</title>
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		<dc:creator>Beer Summit &#8216;Quote of the Day&#8217; &#171; Frugal Café Blog Zone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 17:28:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] part, says Crowley and Open thread: White House kegstand solves nation’s racial problems and Surprise: Stimulus not stimulating construction industry, infrastructure repair and The Peasant Plan Jake Tapper, ABC News: Notes from the Suds Summit and Beerestroika: Drinking [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] part, says Crowley and Open thread: White House kegstand solves nation’s racial problems and Surprise: Stimulus not stimulating construction industry, infrastructure repair and The Peasant Plan Jake Tapper, ABC News: Notes from the Suds Summit and Beerestroika: Drinking [...]</p>
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		<title>By: guntotinglibertarian</title>
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		<dc:creator>guntotinglibertarian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 17:26:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;That, folks is not a “green shoot.” The economy over the last 20 years was built on debt leverage. Thus, probably as much as 20% of GDP growth during that period - up to 3rdQ 2008 - was an illusion. The law of economic gravity will require an overall decline in private debt outstanding to GDP from 350% back to the historical mean of 150%. The deleveraging will require paydown or default of large quantities of current private debt and a decline in U.S. GDP of 20% overall. Reversion to the mean will be a bitch so hang on.

boqueronman on July 31, 2009 at 12:42 PM
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

That&#039;s what &lt;em&gt;should&lt;/em&gt; happen, but it won&#039;t.  Whether it&#039;s Dems of the GOP, they will try to prop the thing up with excess liquidity and avoid dealing with bad assets.

So we&#039;ll get something even worse: something that looks like Japan&#039;s Lost Decade.  But with inflation, to boot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>That, folks is not a “green shoot.” The economy over the last 20 years was built on debt leverage. Thus, probably as much as 20% of GDP growth during that period &#8211; up to 3rdQ 2008 &#8211; was an illusion. The law of economic gravity will require an overall decline in private debt outstanding to GDP from 350% back to the historical mean of 150%. The deleveraging will require paydown or default of large quantities of current private debt and a decline in U.S. GDP of 20% overall. Reversion to the mean will be a bitch so hang on.</p>
<p>boqueronman on July 31, 2009 at 12:42 PM
</p></blockquote>
<p>That&#8217;s what <em>should</em> happen, but it won&#8217;t.  Whether it&#8217;s Dems of the GOP, they will try to prop the thing up with excess liquidity and avoid dealing with bad assets.</p>
<p>So we&#8217;ll get something even worse: something that looks like Japan&#8217;s Lost Decade.  But with inflation, to boot.</p>
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		<title>By: SGinNC</title>
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		<dc:creator>SGinNC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 17:25:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I still feel that if they had to spend our money to help our nation that money would have best been spent in constructing nuclear power plants all around country.  As it is I don&#039;t see how spending this money advancing liberal causes and paying for peoples mortgages and cars is going to help in the long run.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I still feel that if they had to spend our money to help our nation that money would have best been spent in constructing nuclear power plants all around country.  As it is I don&#8217;t see how spending this money advancing liberal causes and paying for peoples mortgages and cars is going to help in the long run.</p>
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		<title>By: guntotinglibertarian</title>
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		<dc:creator>guntotinglibertarian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 17:23:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;You’re missing the point:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3iWdjkXwOUs
Don’t you just love it when liberals speak the truth!

Laura in Maryland on July 31, 2009 at 10:32 AM
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Geez.  Ever since these guys got their supermajorities and their First Ever Negro President, they just don&#039;t even bother to conceal their true beliefs anymore.  Whether it&#039;s this guy or Holder or Bwaney Fwank or Waxman, they&#039;re just crawling out from under the rocks and saying the most blatant things.  Of course, Dear Leader is foremost.

Only among the permanent political elite could this little dwarf continue to command attention decade after decade, administration after administration, when every policy he&#039;s ever promoted has been a dismal failure.

But then, he is from &lt;em&gt;Haavad&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>You’re missing the point:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3iWdjkXwOUs" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3iWdjkXwOUs</a><br />
Don’t you just love it when liberals speak the truth!</p>
<p>Laura in Maryland on July 31, 2009 at 10:32 AM
</p></blockquote>
<p>Geez.  Ever since these guys got their supermajorities and their First Ever Negro President, they just don&#8217;t even bother to conceal their true beliefs anymore.  Whether it&#8217;s this guy or Holder or Bwaney Fwank or Waxman, they&#8217;re just crawling out from under the rocks and saying the most blatant things.  Of course, Dear Leader is foremost.</p>
<p>Only among the permanent political elite could this little dwarf continue to command attention decade after decade, administration after administration, when every policy he&#8217;s ever promoted has been a dismal failure.</p>
<p>But then, he is from <em>Haavad</em></p>
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		<title>By: Yakko77</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yakko77</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 17:04:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Stimulus not stimulating construction industry, infrastructure repair&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Well duh.

Despite the rhetoric used to pass it, it was never intended to which was clear as day to those of us who at least tried to read it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Stimulus not stimulating construction industry, infrastructure repair</p></blockquote>
<p>Well duh.</p>
<p>Despite the rhetoric used to pass it, it was never intended to which was clear as day to those of us who at least tried to read it.</p>
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		<title>By: ConservadorRebelde</title>
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		<dc:creator>ConservadorRebelde</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 16:46:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Since the economy and unemployment are bound to turn around sooner or later, it pays to start shifting their message now from “where are the jobs?” to “how much of our money have you blown?”&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Right, it&#039;s far easier to determine his spending than it is to prove jobs were/were not created by stimulus.  This should be our new focus.

&lt;blockquote&gt;with firms working on stimulus-funded construction projects hiring at no greater rates than those without such work&lt;/blockquote&gt;

This doesn&#039;t surprise me.  I had a nice (not) debate on Hufpost with some guys saying that stimulus saved thousands of construction jobs, because construction has picked up.  I told them that many of the construction projects going on now have been planned for years (if they are big), and funding for them has been planned out as well.  They were all projected to start this summer, and now Obama is taking credit for those projects.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Since the economy and unemployment are bound to turn around sooner or later, it pays to start shifting their message now from “where are the jobs?” to “how much of our money have you blown?”</p></blockquote>
<p>Right, it&#8217;s far easier to determine his spending than it is to prove jobs were/were not created by stimulus.  This should be our new focus.</p>
<blockquote><p>with firms working on stimulus-funded construction projects hiring at no greater rates than those without such work</p></blockquote>
<p>This doesn&#8217;t surprise me.  I had a nice (not) debate on Hufpost with some guys saying that stimulus saved thousands of construction jobs, because construction has picked up.  I told them that many of the construction projects going on now have been planned for years (if they are big), and funding for them has been planned out as well.  They were all projected to start this summer, and now Obama is taking credit for those projects.</p>
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		<title>By: boqueronman</title>
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		<dc:creator>boqueronman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 16:42:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Before you read the rest, it looks like today the US$ is tanking, 10 yr government bonds are also crashing driving up interest rates, and, not coincidentally, gold is on the way up.  But, I&#039;m sure the O-man, Helicopter Ben and Little Timmy are solving that breach in the wall as we read this.

The &quot;less than expected&quot; decline in GDP is a mirage.  This comes via one of the go-to guys on the internet, Ken Denninger at The Market Ticker.  ONLY government expenditures - federal, state, local - have kept the decline anywhere close to zero.  If you think that&#039;s sustainable, put on the dunce cap and sit in the corner.  When one examines what happened in the real, productive economy here&#039;s what happened vs 1stQ 2009:

&quot;Real personal consumption expenditures decreased 1.2 percent in the second quarter, in contrast to an increase of 0.6 percent in the first.  Durable goods decreased 7.1 percent, in contrast to an increase of 3.9 percent.  Nondurable goods decreased 2.5 percent, in contrast to an increase of 1.9 percent. Services increased 0.1 percent, in contrast to a decrease of 0.3 percent...

Real nonresidential fixed investment decreased 8.9 percent in the second quarter, compared with a decrease of 39.2 percent in the first.  Nonresidential structures decreased 8.9 percent, compared with a decrease of 43.6 percent.  Equipment and software decreased 9.0 percent, compared with a decrease of 36.4 percent.  Real residential fixed investment decreased 29.3 percent, compared with a decrease of 38.2 percent.&quot;

That, folks is not a &quot;green shoot.&quot;  The economy over the last 20 years was built on debt leverage.  Thus, probably as much as 20% of GDP growth during that period - up to 3rdQ 2008 - was an illusion.  The law of economic gravity will require an overall decline in private debt outstanding to GDP from 350% back to the historical mean of 150%.  The deleveraging will require paydown or default of large quantities of current private debt and a decline in U.S. GDP of 20% overall.  Reversion to the mean will be a bitch so hang on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Before you read the rest, it looks like today the US$ is tanking, 10 yr government bonds are also crashing driving up interest rates, and, not coincidentally, gold is on the way up.  But, I&#8217;m sure the O-man, Helicopter Ben and Little Timmy are solving that breach in the wall as we read this.</p>
<p>The &#8220;less than expected&#8221; decline in GDP is a mirage.  This comes via one of the go-to guys on the internet, Ken Denninger at The Market Ticker.  ONLY government expenditures &#8211; federal, state, local &#8211; have kept the decline anywhere close to zero.  If you think that&#8217;s sustainable, put on the dunce cap and sit in the corner.  When one examines what happened in the real, productive economy here&#8217;s what happened vs 1stQ 2009:</p>
<p>&#8220;Real personal consumption expenditures decreased 1.2 percent in the second quarter, in contrast to an increase of 0.6 percent in the first.  Durable goods decreased 7.1 percent, in contrast to an increase of 3.9 percent.  Nondurable goods decreased 2.5 percent, in contrast to an increase of 1.9 percent. Services increased 0.1 percent, in contrast to a decrease of 0.3 percent&#8230;</p>
<p>Real nonresidential fixed investment decreased 8.9 percent in the second quarter, compared with a decrease of 39.2 percent in the first.  Nonresidential structures decreased 8.9 percent, compared with a decrease of 43.6 percent.  Equipment and software decreased 9.0 percent, compared with a decrease of 36.4 percent.  Real residential fixed investment decreased 29.3 percent, compared with a decrease of 38.2 percent.&#8221;</p>
<p>That, folks is not a &#8220;green shoot.&#8221;  The economy over the last 20 years was built on debt leverage.  Thus, probably as much as 20% of GDP growth during that period &#8211; up to 3rdQ 2008 &#8211; was an illusion.  The law of economic gravity will require an overall decline in private debt outstanding to GDP from 350% back to the historical mean of 150%.  The deleveraging will require paydown or default of large quantities of current private debt and a decline in U.S. GDP of 20% overall.  Reversion to the mean will be a bitch so hang on.</p>
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		<title>By: rockhead</title>
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		<dc:creator>rockhead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 16:37:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So you&#039;re telling me that a bunch of pols and their staffers sitting around dreaming up way to would get infrastructure projects moving didn&#039;t know the reality of how &quot;their&quot; money would actually be spent?

Imagine that.  I&#039;m so glad they have such a better handle on the problems with health care.  I&#039;m sure their solution will get right to the heart of the problem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So you&#8217;re telling me that a bunch of pols and their staffers sitting around dreaming up way to would get infrastructure projects moving didn&#8217;t know the reality of how &#8220;their&#8221; money would actually be spent?</p>
<p>Imagine that.  I&#8217;m so glad they have such a better handle on the problems with health care.  I&#8217;m sure their solution will get right to the heart of the problem.</p>
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		<title>By: thomasaur</title>
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		<dc:creator>thomasaur</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 16:13:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt; This recession ain’t over by a long shot, the worst is yet to come. To think otherwise is thinking stupidly.

Knucklehead on July 31, 2009 at 12:03 PM

&lt;/blockquote&gt;Democrat administration- Economy contracts less than expected=recovery
Republican administration- Economy expands less than expected=recession/depression on the scale of the 1930&#039;s</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p> This recession ain’t over by a long shot, the worst is yet to come. To think otherwise is thinking stupidly.</p>
<p>Knucklehead on July 31, 2009 at 12:03 PM</p>
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<p>Democrat administration- Economy contracts less than expected=recovery<br />
Republican administration- Economy expands less than expected=recession/depression on the scale of the 1930&#8242;s</p>
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		<title>By: The President is starting to drive people crazy &#171; Jim Blazsik</title>
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		<dc:creator>The President is starting to drive people crazy &#171; Jim Blazsik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 16:06:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Knucklehead</title>
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		<dc:creator>Knucklehead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 16:03:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt; if it’s true that the recession is finally ending and the economy starts expanding (however sluggishly) next year, will voters really care about stimulus waste during the midterms? &lt;/blockquote&gt;

If anyone believes that, they&#039;re closet KoolAid drinkers.  This recession ain&#039;t over by a long shot, the worst is yet to come.  To think otherwise is thinking stupidly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p> if it’s true that the recession is finally ending and the economy starts expanding (however sluggishly) next year, will voters really care about stimulus waste during the midterms? </p></blockquote>
<p>If anyone believes that, they&#8217;re closet KoolAid drinkers.  This recession ain&#8217;t over by a long shot, the worst is yet to come.  To think otherwise is thinking stupidly.</p>
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