Video: Obama’s dishonest rhetoric on “tax havens”

posted at 6:50 pm on July 30, 2009 by Ed Morrissey

Our friend Dan Mitchell from the Center for Freedom and Prosperity gives us a break from the dishonest White House rhetoric on health care — in order to focus on their dishonest rhetoric on so-called “tax havens”. Dan points out that Barack Obama’s claims for revenue for his tax-policy changes are wildly inflated, while highly damaging to American competitiveness abroad. For the kind of money this policy will actually generate, we will pay a high price in jobs and economic growth:

Maybe we should start penalizing corporations for moving to Delaware. After all, they did produce Joe Biden, God love him. Mitchell does a good job in showing that the Obama tax policy is either poorly conceived — or intended for some other purpose than “fairness”. It’s a punishment for economic success, a theme we are beginning to see repeatedly already in the Obama administration.


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Lies and deceptions by this administration are becoming so obvious that even liberals with single digit IQs are getting embarrassed.

volsense on July 30, 2009 at 6:53 PM

The stimulus worked , I trust Obama.

the_nile on July 30, 2009 at 6:54 PM

The stimulus worked , I trust Obama.

the_nile on July 30, 2009 at 6:54 PM

You’re welcome….

//Rahmbo

sven10077 on July 30, 2009 at 6:57 PM

The adults are in charge.

Bishop on July 30, 2009 at 6:58 PM

It’s a punishment for economic success, a theme we are beginning to see repeatedly already in the Obama administration.

In Obama’s mind, successful people MUST share their success with the not-so-fortunate by government fiat—-a sure recipe for a lazy and unproductive society.

Rovin on July 30, 2009 at 6:59 PM

The adults are in charge.

Bishop on July 30, 2009 at 6:58 PM

lol! You almost miss him/her, don’t cha Bishop?

Rovin on July 30, 2009 at 7:01 PM

Mitchell does a good job in showing that the Obama tax policy is either poorly conceived — or intended for some other purpose than “fairness”.

Power grab , see Venezuela.

the_nile on July 30, 2009 at 7:01 PM

There are like 13,000 US companies “based” in the Cayman Islands.

But according to Captain Ed, it has nothing to do with “tax evasion” and everything to do with “American competitiveness abroad.”

Here’s an idea, Ed: how about American companies compete based on superior products and services, and then pay their taxes fairly?

e-pirate on July 30, 2009 at 7:05 PM

Reprehensible demagoguery – Nice.

izoneguy on July 30, 2009 at 7:05 PM

There are like 13,000 US companies “based” in the Cayman Islands.

But according to Captain Ed, it has nothing to do with “tax evasion” and everything to do with “American competitiveness abroad.”

Here’s an idea, Ed: how about American companies compete based on superior products and services, and then pay their taxes fairly?

e-pirate on July 30, 2009 at 7:05 PM

If foreign companies can use “tax evasion” it’s hard to become competitive. If you don’t give your crony’s tax exemptions , but that defeats its purpose or maybe not…

the_nile on July 30, 2009 at 7:09 PM

Of course his claims of taxes he can collect are way off, he don’t know nuthin’ about economics or taxation except what Rev. Wright, Billy Ayers and Marx taught him.

This is not about revenue, it is about fragging the country and particularly any wealthy person or group, becuase they might be obstructive to the Bama Plan for us all.

A strong private sector might give some people the idea they aren’t here to serve the political class. Imagine the cheek of such nonsense. They might refuse to pay taxes, vote out Friends of Bama, even Bama hisself.

David Henninger’s column in the WSJ of today about who serves whom hits the nail on the head. Bama sees citizens as tools to meet his goals. We are here for him, not the inverse. That is the socialist system.

We are at a crossroads where major and perhaps irrevocable decisions are going to be made as to who serves whom, Henninger thinks, and I agree.

“We survived Carter” is not an attitude that is going to work anymore.

Harry Schell on July 30, 2009 at 7:10 PM

“We survived Carter” is not an attitude that is going to work anymore.

Harry Schell on July 30, 2009 at 7:10 PM

It will not be long untill we yearn for the Carter years.

farright on July 30, 2009 at 7:16 PM

OH BOY. When the REAL, delayed, deficit numbers come out, Obumbler is going to have a tough time selling his future rosy estimates.

Of course, I’m sure that obumbler’s own projections will have been some media conspiracy to demonstrate he is a liar.

jukin on July 30, 2009 at 7:22 PM

The stimulus worked , I trust Obama.

the_nile on July 30, 2009 at 6:54 PM

Yep. Cronies paid in full. That was its purpose, right?

ROCnPhilly on July 30, 2009 at 7:24 PM

O seems not to have read , heard or bothered to look into any ideas save those of the extreme liberal subtly tinged with those of the black liberal. I get the impression that he knew the varying degrees of right were out there in some mythical place, but they only needed to be guided and encouraged to recognize the right path. How, I ask you, can he be as well educated(notice I did not say smart!)as he is and not have taken some time and trouble to notice and become acquainted with the ‘other side’. He’s Prez of the whole country not just the liberal part for heaven’s sake.

jeanie on July 30, 2009 at 7:32 PM

e-pirate on July 30, 2009 at 7:05 PM

That comment qualifies and one of the most ignorant I have ever seen here at HA…

Keemo on July 30, 2009 at 7:37 PM

If the White House is resorting to dihonest and misleading numbers to sell something, maybe that’s a sign that the underlying proposal is a bad idea.

Ditto Obamacare
Ditto Cap & Tax
Ditto Stimulus
Ditto Omnibus
Ditto Budget
Ditto International abortion funding
Ditto Closing Gitmo
Ditto anything else he has proposed.

Christian Conservative on July 30, 2009 at 7:40 PM

Can I post here?

lsutiger on July 30, 2009 at 7:51 PM

OK – I was testing something…I was having problems posting and now I can :D
Move along now…nothing to see here….

lsutiger on July 30, 2009 at 7:52 PM

lsutiger on July 30, 2009 at 7:52 PM

No worries mate. Jump in the mix and have some fun.

Keemo on July 30, 2009 at 8:05 PM

It’s about control.

CP on July 30, 2009 at 8:18 PM

Barak Obama’s economic policies are so bad, that he is either an economic dunce (an amiable one) or he is acting with intent to ruin a system he thinks unfair.

Increasingly I lean toward the latter, because it’s difficult to conceive of even liberals being this stupid. Set aside the harm to the American people, their own poll numbers are tanking and Republican hopes are rising.

Have the Republicans changed? Some renewed commitment to fiscal conservatism? It’s easy to oppose stupidity.

exdeadhead on July 30, 2009 at 8:40 PM

In Obama’s mind, successful people MUST share their success with the not-so-fortunate by government fiat—-a sure recipe for a lazy and unproductive society.

Rovin on July 30, 2009 at 6:59 PM

More likely, in Obama’s mind, success means that you must have cheated someone else, so its only right that you compensate the people you cheated (through the government, which can’t cheat).

Count to 10 on July 30, 2009 at 8:45 PM

Barak Obama’s economic policies are so bad, that he is either an economic dunce (an amiable one) or he is acting with intent to ruin a system he thinks unfair.

Increasingly I lean toward the latter, because it’s difficult to conceive of even liberals being this stupid. Set aside the harm to the American people, their own poll numbers are tanking and Republican hopes are rising.

Have the Republicans changed? Some renewed commitment to fiscal conservatism? It’s easy to oppose stupidity.

exdeadhead on July 30, 2009 at 8:40 PM

He doesn’t have to be stupid or malicious — even highly intelligent people can be mislead as to what the facts are, and can cling to completely backward theories. Obama doesn’t understand the fundamental morality of property rights and free trade, and assumes economic models that don’t conflict with his desire to ‘fix’ every problem with government.

Very smart is by no means equivalent to right.
You learn this when life smacks you in the face with it enough times. P.BO has lucked out, only having been smacked once or twice by reality in his adult life, so chances are that being President is the first chance he has had to learn.

Count to 10 on July 30, 2009 at 8:55 PM

Scum Breath In Chief.

Griz on July 30, 2009 at 8:58 PM

Obama Administration is one big tax haven, given the number of tax cheats in it as well those additional ones he had tried to include.

bayview on July 30, 2009 at 11:39 PM

Here’s an idea, Ed: how about American companies compete based on superior products and services, and then pay their taxes fairly?

e-pirate on July 30, 2009 at 7:05 PM

How utterly naive, and most certainly an example of the un-education offered by public schools. Listen closely – corporations don’t pay taxes, they pass any taxes reported on to the consumer in the form of higher prices for everyone.

Please, stop with the propaganda put forth by the media and anti-business leftists.

Sporty1946 on July 31, 2009 at 8:04 AM

exdeadhead on July 30, 2009 at 8:40 PM

Obambi is BOTH stupid and malicious! He hates this country, and says so every chance he gets, therefore he has to fundamentally try to remake it in his warped image of what it should be. All of the Democrats (and probably a good portion of the RINOs) are making a gigantic power grab because they know that they will exempt themselves from their own policies.

Sporty1946 on July 31, 2009 at 8:11 AM

There are like 13,000 US companies “based” in the Cayman Islands.

But according to Captain Ed, it has nothing to do with “tax evasion” and everything to do with “American competitiveness abroad.”

Here’s an idea, Ed: how about American companies compete based on superior products and services, and then pay their taxes fairly?

e-pirate on July 30, 2009 at 7:05 PM

Wow…the problem is that it has nothing to do with products and services, it’s all about product cost associated with its inherent value on the market. Look, companies need to make a profit to remain an ongoing concern and develop new products (aka have a reason to exist) otherwise scarce resources allocated to produce those products will be allocated elsewhere.

High corporate taxes strangle profit, and therefore growth of a company (and there fore JOBS!). As Sporty1946 said high taxes will be passed on to the consumer to retain margin to do all these things companies do…until they have exceeded the inherent value of the widget and can no longer compete…and that is why they seek tax shelter. It has nothing to do with “fair” taxes. What a concept, BTW.

Ever get the feeling that some people think CEOs are the rich white guys from Trading Places, and spend all day buying and selling polar bear pelts and lighting cigars with $100 bills?

NickelAndDime on July 31, 2009 at 8:33 AM

So the 300 “Community Organizations” in that one New Orleans ACORN location really needs to be looked into, correct Mr. President?

barnone on July 31, 2009 at 10:30 AM