Pelosi goes nuts: Villainous, immoral insurance companies are the problem

posted at 2:15 pm on July 30, 2009 by Allahpundit

Good stuff. Take one of the most unpopular politicians in America, have her go off half-cocked in a crude attempt to satisfy Democratic demands for a villain to demagogue in selling ObamaCare, then wait for the backlash. Bonus points for using the same Orwellian rhetorical device Paul Ryan called Katrina Vanden Heuvel on last night, namely, exploiting the language of competition to push one of the most anti-competitive domestic measures in American history.

For sheer comic alarmism, this is topped only by The One’s warning at last week’s presser that greedy doctors are after your tonsils. But remember, you’re the ones who are fearmongering.

“They are the villains in this,” Pelosi said of private insurers. “They have been part of the problem in a major way. They are doing everything in their power to stop a public option from happening. And the public has to know that. They can disguise their arguments any way they want, but the fact is that they don’t want the competition.”…

“It’s almost immoral what they are doing,” added Pelosi, who stood outside her office long after her press conference ended to continue speaking to reporters, even as aides tried in vain to usher her inside. “Of course they’ve been immoral all along in how they have treated the people that they insure with pre-existing conditions, you know, the litany of it all.”

Translation: Private insurers are selfishly defending themselves from a statist boondoggle that’ll likely drive them out of business and create a government monopoly. I can’t believe it’s come to this, but Yale Law prof Stephen Carter was so distressed by Democratic attacks on nefarious profit-seekers that he felt obliged to write an op-ed this morning reminding America that profits are actually a good thing:

High profits are excellent news. When corporate earnings reach record levels, we should be celebrating. The only way a firm can make money is to sell people what they want at a price they are willing to pay. If a firm makes lots of money, lots of people are getting what they want.

To the country, profit is a benefit. Record profit means record taxes paid. But put that aside. When profits are high, firms are able to reinvest, expand and hire. And profits accrue to the benefit of those who own stocks: overwhelmingly, pension funds and mutual funds. In other words, high corporate profits today signal better retirements tomorrow.

Another reason to celebrate profit is the incentive it creates. When profits can be made, entrepreneurs provide more of needed goods and services…

We want health care to be cheaper, and the for-profit health-care industry has every incentive to make it so. Supporters of the public option tout Medicare’s cost advantages over private insurance, but those are largely obtained by setting below-market reimbursement rates for medical services (meaning that private patients subsidize Medicare patients). Moreover, the costs of compliance with the hundreds of pages of Medicare regulations are also transferred to the providers, and thus, again, to private patients.

Below for your amusement, via Greg Hengler, a meeting of the minds on what must be done to rescue America from the immoral villains who are bleeding us dry by providing needed coverage. Provocative exit question via James Pethokoukis: Is ObamaCare turning into … RomneyCare?


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I’m officially labeling Pelosi as a drunk fool.

SouthernGent on July 30, 2009 at 5:09 PM

Ok… finaly figured out what bothered me about the headline…

Pelosi Goes Nuts

Uh, how do you go someplace you already are?

Romeo13 on July 30, 2009 at 5:16 PM

“They lie all the time.”

Jim Treacher on July 30, 2009 at 5:23 PM

Damn, what happened to her? She has become a fatty.

Wade on July 30, 2009 at 5:31 PM

Do you have a pension plan with any of your former employers? If so, you may be able to retire early (all this means is that you monthly pension is smaller) and take advantage of the insurance plans they offer.

Blake on July 30, 2009 at 4:44 PM

Yes, I think I was 100% vested when I left. I worked for that hospital for a little over 10 years, so I don’t know what its worth. When I left, they did not fill me in on that info. Thanks, I will check into that.

fullogas on July 30, 2009 at 5:32 PM

This is what happens when a country votes for a party led by a woman from San Francciso and a man from Chicago. A toxic combination of insanity and corruption.

angryed on July 30, 2009 at 5:32 PM

uuugggghh Please, I’ll be eating dinner soon.

fullogas on July 30, 2009 at 5:33 PM

She needs to get laid. Big time.
lorien1973 on July 30, 2009 at 2:43 PM

uuugggghh Please, I’ll be eating dinner soon.

fullogas on July 30, 2009 at 5:34 PM

even as aides tried in vain to usher her inside.

“Nancy, dear, come back inside now…it’s time for your medication…”

uncivilized on July 30, 2009 at 5:34 PM

Damn, what happened to her? She has become a fatty.

Wade on July 30, 2009 at 5:31 PM

was referring to Rachael Ray.

Wade on July 30, 2009 at 5:34 PM

Yes, I think I was 100% vested when I left. I worked for that hospital for a little over 10 years, so I don’t know what its worth. When I left, they did not fill me in on that info. Thanks, I will check into that.

fullogas on July 30, 2009 at 5:32 PM

Please do. You may also find that info online. Do you get statements regarding your pension from them? They may include a website where you can check.

Blake on July 30, 2009 at 5:36 PM

I don’t always agree with Ted Baxter, but he nailed this one but he left out Schip (and so did RR).

Laura in Maryland on July 30, 2009 at 5:43 PM

So if the government offered a $250 a month catastrophic plan, you’d be happy to join it? You’d get zero help with prescriptions or office visits but wouldn’t be wiped out if you get caught in a health crisis…

I’m honestly not opposed to something like that, as long as enrollees understand what they’re signing up for.

funky chicken on July 30, 2009 at 4:40 PM

Really can’t say that I would be happy with that. I don’t believe its the govt’s role to do that. God knows, we already pay an amount to federal taxes that is out of proportion with what we pay to state taxes, and it would only get worse, given that the govt seems to add about 30 beaurocratic offices for everything they undertake; not to mention that they just don’t exhibit too much sound judgement in their decisions. Would you be happy if your medical records were possessed by the govt? I surely would not. Its just too “1984″ for me.

fullogas on July 30, 2009 at 5:43 PM

From the link to Pethokoukis:

He thinks President Obama may get the chance to sign an $800 billion (over 10 years) bill that would contain features such an individual mandate to buy health insurance, subsidies up to 300 percent of the poverty limit to purchase a regulated plan through a health insurance “exchange”, and an expansion of Medicaid.

So, you’re still forced to buy insurance through an exchange, which means the feds control the coverage,i.e., rationing. And it doesn’t save money in the long run, in fact, costs and premiums increase?

Yeah, that’s the ticket.

Blake on July 30, 2009 at 5:49 PM

subsidies up to 300 percent of the poverty limit

Poverty is $20K a year. So anyone making up to $60K a year gets free health coverage. Median income is $50K, which means more than 50% of the population will qualify.

But don’t you dare call this a government takeover. That’s just fear mongering.

angryed on July 30, 2009 at 5:55 PM

I wish Industry was more in opposition, most of the time they have been at the table hoping to dodge the knife, Its been up to the blogosphere, talk radio, and some GOP politicans to fight this measure.

rob verdi on July 30, 2009 at 6:06 PM

Is there a single state that doesn’t offer some type of insurance for children? I keep hearing about these mythical uninsured kids, but do they exist?

DFCtomm on July 30, 2009 at 6:07 PM

I bet Nancy is really effective in getting young people to view the Democrat party in a positive light.

They look at a decrepit old hag and say, “hey, I want to join that party!”

jeff_from_mpls on July 30, 2009 at 6:19 PM

Nancy Pelosi is a lunatic and because Obama is too busy being a media star, and butting his big nose into everything she is running the country. I’m starting to side with the old lady who sold her t.v. I too am sick to death of watching these creatures.

UnEasyRider on July 30, 2009 at 6:37 PM

Wouldn’t you love to know how many trial lawyers have bankrolled her and her Dem cronies over the years? I would have to say that the evil trial lawyers have driven up medical costs and liability insurance for health providers in a most unethical and immoral way.

Somebody at HotAir had a great blog link to a doctor who offered some solutions to rising costs, which I thought was terrific. One of the points that he made is that advertising of pharmaceuticals has also driven up costs because would-be patients are inundated with ads (which are expensive) and demand to have those particular medications. These drugs are not necessarily better for the patient, but the ads lull people into thinking that they are so.

onlineanalyst on July 30, 2009 at 6:50 PM

Mizz Nancy is devoted to protecting the “rights” to abort on the taxpayers’ dime “the pre-existing condition” of unwanted pregnancies.

onlineanalyst on July 30, 2009 at 7:05 PM

Response to: Onlineanalyst on July 30 at 6:50 pm

Wouldn’t you love to know how many trial lawyers have bankrolled her and her Dem cronies over the years?

You can see where she got her campaign contributions for the 2008 cycle via this link:

http://www.opensecrets.org/politicians/contrib.php?cid=N00007360&cycle=2008&type=C&newMem=N&recs=100

wren on July 30, 2009 at 7:08 PM

Poor Nancy, being so pure of heart on her $252,000. yearly salary( probably just covers her botox treatments) and all these greedy profit mongers out there. Hmm wonder if her husband still has the $250,000. in Amgen stock, might be worth a lot more if this Healthcare goes through, NAH she wouldn’t cause that would make her a greedy profit monger:)

concernedsenior on July 30, 2009 at 7:10 PM

Here is my evil insurance company story.

My hubby and I have had a few different insurance companies over our 30 years of marriage. Some paid better than others but we have always been happy with our coverage overall. Of course it gets more expensive all the time. The deductibles go up and the co-pays get higher, but then again everything costs more now-a-days. Still, we have NEVER had an insurance company refuse to pay for any care that we needed. Even for 2 kids that had serious problems at birth. Do we have to pay some extra because of preexisting conditions? Sure we do. But we could pay higher premiums for years and not even really dent the $457,000 dollars that they already have paid so far.

I did to go back to work to pay off the co-pays ad the deductibles. However, I don’t mind that since I am healthy and able to work and I always figured that if we were the ones who were getting the service, we should pay the bills.

Everyone used to expect that you pay for stuff yourself and that if you had some bad luck like a house fire or hospital bills, you just picked yourself up came back from adversity. That’s why hard times were considered character building events.

Now everyone wants to whine and blame somebody else and they expect people to pay for everything so they don’t have to use their own money because Oh, Oh, it’s too expensive. And anyone who expects you to pay your own way is evil and mean and wants sick people to die in the streets.

Lily on July 30, 2009 at 7:11 PM

Gee, first the CIA was out to get her, now the doctors and insurance companies. isn’t there a term for people who believe everyone is out to get them?

Don’t those people require constant meds?

She also announced just before the useless vote on crap and tax that it really stood for four words: “job jobs jobs and jobs!”

Isn’t that actually like one word, repeated four times?

This woman is INSANE.

dogsoldier on July 30, 2009 at 7:16 PM

If it hasn’t already been mentioned, change a few of Nancy’s words and she could be talking (again) about “evil oil company profits.”

Second verse, same as the first…

karl9000 on July 30, 2009 at 7:16 PM

There’d better not be an insurance stock/fund in her portfolio. I guarantee she’s made money on one at some point. She is a menace, a shameless liar and hypocrite of the highest order.

marklmail on July 30, 2009 at 7:26 PM

If it hasn’t already been mentioned, change a few of Nancy’s words and she could be talking (again) about “evil oil company profits.”

Second verse, same as the first…

karl9000 on July 30, 2009 at 7:16 PM

To Speaker Pelosi any company that makes a profit is evil.

DFCtomm on July 30, 2009 at 7:34 PM

It appears to me that the people whining about health care insurance simply don’t want to pay for it out of their own pockets. And they don’t want to pay for any portion of their health care out of their own pockets. They expect insurance to pay for all of their medical needs, and they magically think that a government plan is free.

onlineanalyst on July 30, 2009 at 7:37 PM

Response to marklmail on July 30, 2009 at 7:26 pm

There’d better not be an insurance stock/fund in her portfolio.

You can see the complete portfolios of Pelosi or any other Congressional Rep by looking up their financial disclosure forms at this web site:

http://www.opensecrets.org/pfds/index.php

Sunlight is the best disinfectant!

wren on July 30, 2009 at 7:48 PM

Rachael Ray isn’t a raving leftoid? Whoda thunkit.

spmat on July 30, 2009 at 7:48 PM

My mother is a retired federal employee. She is blind with terror that the Republicans are going to get elected and take all her benefits away. The Democrats told her so.

Hening on July 30, 2009 at 4:58 PM

The Democrats fill AARP members’ heads with mush, lies, and double-talk, too.

onlineanalyst on July 30, 2009 at 8:38 PM

It’s 3 oclock, time to shove a pineapple up Obamas ass.

What Movie?

M-14 2go on July 30, 2009 at 8:49 PM

“They are the villains in this,”

Pelosi said.

“They have been part of the problem in a major way.

They are doing everything in their power to stop a public option from happening. And the public has to know that.

They can disguise their arguments any way they want, but the fact is that they don’t want the competition.”…

Are “they” the

The CIA

The Blue dog Dems

The Bush Admin

The Republicans in general

The Cops

The People who didn’t buy her book

Her plastic surgeon

The insurance companies

DSchoen on July 30, 2009 at 9:06 PM

To paraphrase the late great Chicago news columnist, the legendary Mike Royko, Nancy Pelosi has wooley caterpillars crawling between her ears.

pilamaye on July 30, 2009 at 9:07 PM

Whenever I see Pelosi at a microphone, the only sound I want to hear is “BANG”.

/Sarc

BobMbx on July 30, 2009 at 9:21 PM

In the Aussie vernacular:

“She’s got a few kangaroos loose in her top paddock”

Crux Australis on July 30, 2009 at 9:31 PM

Insurance companies are a necessary evil like all companies. Without insurance companies and the rest of the financial/capitalist structure built up over the centuries, living mummies like Queen Nancy wouldn’t even have the Botox technology available to them that they so much enjoy.

Dr. ZhivBlago on July 30, 2009 at 9:55 PM

Pelosi “goes” nuts?

What is this? News from 1066 AD?

BottomLine5 on July 30, 2009 at 10:23 PM

Does Rachel Ray always talk like that, or did she have a sore throat here?

jgapinoy on July 30, 2009 at 10:57 PM

It appears to me that the people whining about health care insurance simply don’t want to pay for it out of their own pockets. And they don’t want to pay for any portion of their health care out of their own pockets. They expect insurance to pay for all of their medical needs, and they magically think that a government plan is free.

onlineanalyst on July 30, 2009 at 7:37 PM

Boy, that’s kinda cold. You rich or something? You think its fair to pay $430/month one year for health insurance, then be jacked up to $550/month the next and not have even used it? Oooooh, I get it, you’re not a self employed small business owner, right? Fa cryin out loud, get a gd clue

fullogas on July 30, 2009 at 11:55 PM

We desperately need a valiant republican. To dress in drag, and run against her.

darktood on July 31, 2009 at 5:28 AM

they, the nasty “them” and all of “those” people.

Never will someone of such low character ever assume responsibility for her own problems.

She’s been promoted to her level of incompetence.

ted c on July 31, 2009 at 6:54 AM

Rush was right when he said Liberals need a villain.

Notice how in Congress Blue Dog Democrats are suddenly a villain…

jeffn21 on July 31, 2009 at 8:53 AM

Does Rachel Ray always talk like that, or did she have a sore throat here?

jgapinoy on July 30, 2009 at 10:57 PM

She always talks like that. Obnoxious little hag.

Jaibones on July 31, 2009 at 9:39 AM

She’s my version of a white devil.

Shivas Irons on July 31, 2009 at 9:54 AM

The biggest problem the U.S. faces is Representatives and Senators with no term limits. The corruption becomes too easy. This old horse should have been put out to pasture a long time ago. Term limits and tort reform are the answers to America’s problems. Add to that violation of the 10th amendment.

We don’t need healthcare reform, we need POLITICIAN REFORM!!!!!!!!!!!

adamsmith on July 31, 2009 at 10:18 AM

Boy, that’s kinda cold. You rich or something? You think its fair to pay $430/month one year for health insurance, then be jacked up to $550/month the next and not have even used it? Oooooh, I get it, you’re not a self employed small business owner, right? Fa cryin out loud, get a gd clue

fullogas on July 30, 2009 at 11:55 PM

Well, you can get your insurance for free. Just accept that your salary is gonna be lower.

Get a freaking clue.

There is no “free”

guntotinglibertarian on July 31, 2009 at 4:11 PM

Yale law prof Stephen Carter is about 40 years too late. The entire entertainment industry, with help from the education system, has declared war on profit-making enterprise long since, and has been hawking “evil corporations” as the root of all evil for decades. Three entire generations of Americans are convinced “corporate” means “greedy,” that “profit” means “screw everybody,” and that the only way to keep evil corporations from turning every park in America into a parking lot is to let the good guys from the government take over. They don’t think it, they know it.

It’s good that he wrote his alarmed op-ed, but it’s meaningless. He’s just spit into the wind, and when he wipes his face, the incident will be over.

What’s needed is a massive effort of excising Marxist thought from the entire system of education, from top to bottom, a takeover of the entertainment industry by adults, and at least 30 years of re-education along the lines Prof. Carter expressed. Short of that, Prof. Carter had better be prepared to renounce his support of evil profiteering or he may have to join the rest of us in the re-education camps.

It’s that bad.

philwynk on July 31, 2009 at 8:41 PM

Well, you can get your insurance for free. Just accept that your salary is gonna be lower.

Get a freaking clue.

There is no “free”

guntotinglibertarian on July 31, 2009 at 4:11 PM

If you had read my previous posts, you would know that I don’t want it for free! I just want it to be at a FAIR price – I don’t want govt run healthcare. I never said I want it for free. Just seems to me that the health system the way it is, is severely flawed. Many, many hardworking small business owners just can’t afford it, including me. I work hard and have never taken a dime of govt money in the 30 years I’ve been in this country – I’d be ashamed, to tell the truth.

fullogas on July 31, 2009 at 10:08 PM

M14, the movie is Little Nicky and it sucked.

Why can’t we just outlaw calling health insurance “compensation” for doing your job? Seriously, make every person who desires health insurance go out and shop for it like every other consumer good/service. Pelosi would still find them evil, because they would make a tidy profit selling bare bones plans to twenty-five-year-olds and plans that didn’t cover IVF or birth control to Catholics, but at least it would force some competition into the market.

Sheena_is_a_Conservative_Now on July 31, 2009 at 11:51 PM

Beware of Pelosi’s airborne monkeys!

Cybergeezer on August 1, 2009 at 9:33 AM

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