Palin: No, I’m not speaking at the Reagan Library next week

posted at 10:32 pm on July 30, 2009 by Allahpundit

Palin fans have been murmuring excitedly about this event for awhile now, with good reason. It’s a natural venue for her to make her first post-gubernatorial appearance. It’s closed to the press, her pal John Ziegler is emceeing, and it would let her symbolically lay claim to the Reagan mantle that her fans have bestowed on her. The organizers of the event, the Republican Women Federated of Simi Valley, went so far as to say a few weeks ago that she was scheduled to attend.

And now, this.

As repeatedly stated to several in the media over the last week, former Governor Sarah Palin is not committed to attend the Simi Valley Republican Women’s event at the Reagan Library and in fact is not attending the event. Neither the Governor’s state staff nor SarahPAC has ever committed to attending this event or speaking at this event, and even requested that the Governor’s name be removed from the invitation several weeks ago. The Governor has other work and commitments to take care of at that time. She looks forward to visiting her friends in California soon.

All event requests must be confirmed with Meghan Stapleton of SarahPAC. Additionally, all invitations bearing the Governor’s name must be approved by her attorney before proceeding.

Thank you.
Meghan Stapleton

Conservatives 4 Palin is quick to point out that Palin herself never said she would be there, or at least not publicly. I’ll be curious to hear what the organizers have to say about that tomorrow, especially given her track record of miscommunications when being booked for events. If it’s true that they invented the fact of her attendance in hopes of pressuring her to come, they owe her a groveling apology for getting her fans’ hopes up. In the meantime, though, what could she have scheduled that’s so critical that she can’t skip it for a big lower-48 debut on Ronald Reagan’s home turf? It’s political gold. Stay tuned.


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She’s rapidly shredding whatever is left of her credibility and is showing her organization to be amateur and totally not up to the task. Not confidence inspiring.

redfoxbluestate on July 31, 2009 at 8:07 AM

She’s rapidly shredding whatever is left of her credibility and is showing her organization to be amateur and totally not up to the task. Not confidence inspiring.

redfoxbluestate on July 31, 2009 at 8:07 AM

By what? Not going to an event she never confirmed she was going to? One which her representative asked to have her name removed from weeks ago?

powerpro on July 31, 2009 at 8:09 AM

powerpro on July 31, 2009 at 8:03 AM

People couldn’t help themselves from condemning MM.
They are very rabid, a good portion of the commenters, on that website.

blatantblue on July 31, 2009 at 8:12 AM

WASHINGTON (CNN) – Despite an earlier announcement from a California Republican womens group, former Alaska Governor Sarah Palin will not be speaking to an event sponsored by the group scheduled for next weekend at the Ronald Reagan Presidential Library, a spokeswoman for her political action committee said Thursday night.

“As repeatedly stated to several in the media over the last week, former Governor Sarah Palin is not committed to attend the Simi Valley Republican Women’s event at the Reagan Library and in fact is not attending the event,” read a statement from Meghan Stapleton that was posted on Palin‘s Facebook site.

“Neither the Governor’s state staff nor SarahPAC has ever committed to attending this event or speaking at this event, and even requested that the Governor’s name be removed from the invitation several weeks ago.”

Stapleton said Palin “has other work and commitments to take care of at that time” without elaborating.

A representative of the Republican Women of Simi Valley, which bills itself as a non-profit group of volunteers, told CNN she had no comment about Palin’s statement. When asked if she knew who from Palin’s staff had accepted the invitation, she again said she had no comment.

In a statement released earlier this month, the group said the Saturday August 8th event, meant to commemorate the group‘s anniversary, said Palin was one of several scheduled speakers and was “slated to attend.”

“Sarah Palin loves Alaska & she has roots in southern California and our organization is very supportive of the troops! Palin also has a huge following in California, mostly folks who pay tribute to the Reagan legacy,” said Pat Saraceno, hospitality chair for the group. “Most of us view Palin as a ‘Reaganesque figure.”

the_nile on July 31, 2009 at 8:12 AM

People couldn’t help themselves from condemning MM.
They are very rabid, a good portion of the commenters, on that website.

blatantblue on July 31, 2009 at 8:12 AM

That a few commenters overreact like Ed and Allah done about Palin “The other show drop meme etc” , doesnt make the site bad.

the_nile on July 31, 2009 at 8:17 AM

People couldn’t help themselves from condemning MM.
They are very rabid, a good portion of the commenters, on that website.

blatantblue on July 31, 2009 at 8:12 AM

Excuse me but I’m one of the commenters on that site and your characterization is extremely offensive.

Did a couple of people jump the gun in suggesting Michelle Malkin is anti-Palin? Yes.

Did those people get called out and told to back down by others? YOU BETCHA.

We support Governor Palin and are sensitive to attacks from both within and without the party. Are some a little trigger happy jumping to her defense? Sure. But that’s pretty understandable given our political climate.

But by calling the majority of posters there “rabid” and neglecting to point out that the people who suggested Michelle was anti-Palin were called out by others is a less than honest description that from my perspective looks like an attempt on your part to minimize, isolate and freeze Palin supporters as a wacky fringe group.

powerpro on July 31, 2009 at 8:23 AM

You’d think a tiny blog that gets copious hits from AP and Eds links would be a bit more

Gracious

blatantblue on July 31, 2009 at 7:53 AM

Ya’d think, wouldn’t ya?

ladyingray on July 31, 2009 at 8:24 AM

They’re not claiming now that she said ‘yes’:
http://www.geocities.com/simivalleyrepublicanwomen/

but regardless, it doesn’t come out well for her.

Phoenician on July 31, 2009 at 8:26 AM

powerpro on July 31, 2009 at 8:23 AM

I don’t know if my “good portion” is equal to your “most.”

I’m not trying to isolate anyone
I’m a palin fan myself — I’m just not a sycophant, and I am turned off by the behavior of many there on C4P and here

blatantblue on July 31, 2009 at 8:30 AM

They are very rabid, a good portion of the commenters, on that website.

blatantblue on July 31, 2009 at 8:12 AM

But by calling the majority of posters there “rabid” and neglecting to point out that the people who suggested Michelle was anti-Palin were called out by others is a less than honest description that from my perspective looks like an attempt on your part to minimize, isolate and freeze Palin supporters as a wacky fringe group.

powerpro on July 31, 2009 at 8:23 AM

“A good portion” does not equal “the majority”.

It’s easy to get the impression that a majority of posters are rabid when a small number of rabid posters numerically dominate the messaging. I’m not saying that’s happened there, but I’ve seen it happen here.

ProfessorMiao on July 31, 2009 at 8:30 AM

Ah yes, yet another thread about Palin being “Quaylized” — in this case, by refuting rumors spread by OTHER PEOPLE that she was going to be at an event when she never accepted any invitation to be there or made any appointment to be there.

It couldn’t possibly be other people’s misunderstanding of what is and is not on Sarah Palin’s schedule, could it? No, the fault here has to be Sarah Palin’s.

But I guess if you not only want her out of politics but out of the public eye altogether, and you don’t want her campaigning for anyone in 2010, you’ll accept just about anything as her fault.

It’s this sort of thing that Sarah was referring to when she admonished the media to quit making things up.

Aitch748 on July 31, 2009 at 8:34 AM

So don’t you dare try to isolate and freeze C4P as a hate site. It’s pathetic and transparent… just like our president.

powerpro on July 31, 2009 at 8:03 AM

Would you do me a favor and express that same anger at Palin supporters here when they try to “isolate and freeze” Hot Air bloggers and posters as traitors, RINO’s, CINO’s, squishes, trolls, condescending, ridiculing, elitist, narcissistic, juvenile, crybabies, etc., simply because they express any doubt about Sarah Palin?

Thanks.

Loxodonta on July 31, 2009 at 8:38 AM

Much as Palin is popular with some of the conservative base, she is totally unelectable nationally. There are already enough people bashing her from the opposition and the press, her fits and stops actions will compound the impression that she does not think things through well . Her lack of experience at high level (only 1 and a half year as the governor) will not do after Obama’s amateur hour at the Whit House. She will be better off and more effective as a booster of conservative ideas and policies from a platform like a talk show or as a speaker (if she decided to participate in an event afterall),somewhat like Newt now.

bayview on July 31, 2009 at 8:39 AM

She never committed but now she’s hurt herself?? lol!

ohiobabe on July 31, 2009 at 8:42 AM

ProfessorMiao on July 31, 2009 at 8:30 AM

I stand corrected. I concede “a good portion” != “majority”.

The rest of my comment stands.

powerpro on July 31, 2009 at 8:43 AM

In the meantime, though, what could she have scheduled that’s so critical that she can’t skip it for a big lower-48 debut on Ronald Reagan’s home turf? It’s political gold. Stay tuned.

Any hints as to what this is?

darwin on July 31, 2009 at 8:45 AM

I understand people want to defend Palin. I want to defend Palin. However I think with some folks it is a bit reflexive and over the top.

I can understand people getting mad at AP sometimes — that’s fine. Despite this, I get frustrated when I see people going on at how he “hates” Palin, and “never” says anything good about her. Those two things simply aren’t true.

AP is not beyond reproach. Neither is Palin.

I don’t like when Palin is criticized and attacked unfairly by anyone, be it a McCain staffer, or a DailyAss writer. At the same time, I don’t like when AP is misrepresented and smeared by people who support Palin.

People are free to criticize him. That isn’t my problem. My problem is the attacks and straw men thrown at him. AP and MM have been two allies to the conservative cause. Charles Krauthammer has been a valuable asset to the conservative movement. Yet I have seen them smeared by Palin fans for not toting the line.

We are conservatives because we are independent thinkers. This is what makes us different from the sheeple.

AP never throws grotesque rhetoric at Sarah. He never brings her children or family or anything into what he has to say about her. He is never vile on the topic of Palin, yet he is treated as if he is Andrew Sullivan.

This sort of behavior needs to stop. If people don’t like HA — leave. Don’t walk into someone’s house and sh!t on their floor, and don’t make things up about them and misrepresent them.

We don’t like it when people do it to Palin. Let’s stop doing it to our own.

blatantblue on July 31, 2009 at 8:45 AM

Would you do me a favor and express that same anger at Palin supporters here when they try to “isolate and freeze” Hot Air bloggers and posters as traitors, RINO’s, CINO’s, squishes, trolls, condescending, ridiculing, elitist, narcissistic, juvenile, crybabies, etc., simply because they express any doubt about Sarah Palin?

Thanks.

Loxodonta on July 31, 2009 at 8:38 AM

Why should I? That’s way too broad a brush.

And sorry but sometimes people do behave that way. Would I support such a characterization for all or even most Hot Air posters? No. But you’d have to be living in a cave to believe that the characterizations are not applicable to some of the people who post here.

powerpro on July 31, 2009 at 8:46 AM

Her lack of experience at high level (only 1 and a half year as the governor) will not do after Obama’s amateur hour at the Whit House.

bayview on July 31, 2009 at 8:39 AM

2 and a half. Dont try to inject lies.

the_nile on July 31, 2009 at 8:48 AM

You know, I’m starting to regret giving Allahpundit the hits for his campaign to highlight only the bad things about Sarah Palin and very few of the good things. Now he’s blaming her for other people’s rumors about her appearances.

Aitch748 on July 31, 2009 at 8:49 AM

blatantblue on July 31, 2009 at 8:45 AM

Allah does a lot of gleefull second guessing. When she resigned he linked to leftwing rumors about scandals.

To many people have a vested interest in hurting Palin, and it should’nt be supported.

the_nile on July 31, 2009 at 8:53 AM

blatantblue on July 31, 2009 at 8:45 AM

You’re making false comparisons and miss the point entirely.

Hurray for AP…he doesn’t support the Trig Palin isn’t Sarah’s nutcases! But that doesn’t mean that he’s a straight shooter when it comes to Palin.

And as much as I love Charles Krauthammer, he’s got blinders on regarding Palin. Doctor Zero wrote a great essay here recently about Conservative intellectuals, specifically my man CK and Palin.

I’m not demonizing HA or CK. I disagree with them. And when I see something as unfair, I’ll call it out….just like I called out the people for suggesting Michelle was anti-Palin.

Yes I do love Palin … that’s a given. But what I really love are genuine conservatives. People with certain rock solid principles who stand firm and fight.

What’s so mind numbingly frustrating is seeing how many sites fall into the false narrative that because Palin is scorned and mocked, she’s not viable and we should consider someone else more media friendly, like Mitt!

Well…here’s the thing. Anyone who the media supports is a bad idea. And anyone worth fighting for…be it Palin or other solid conservatives like DeMint…are GOING to be made fun of and rejected.

So do we let the media decide for us who to choose, like they did with McCain…or do we put our feet down and fight for the principles we believe in whether we’re made fun of or not?

Do we stand up for the people who fight for our core values or do we turn away from them because the media find them unacceptable?

powerpro on July 31, 2009 at 8:55 AM

Is this the “other shoe” the bloggers have been promising?

james23 on July 31, 2009 at 9:03 AM

powerpro on July 31, 2009 at 8:55 AM

You disagree

Others demonize

blatantblue on July 31, 2009 at 9:04 AM

Why should I? That’s way too broad a brush.

And sorry but sometimes people do behave that way. Would I support such a characterization for all or even most Hot Air posters? No. But you’d have to be living in a cave to believe that the characterizations are not applicable to some of the people who post here.

powerpro on July 31, 2009 at 8:46 AM

There is nothing broad about the brush I used at all. It is exactly true. There are hundreds of posts from Palin supporters bullying non-Palin supporters here, not because they are showing unfair contempt for Palin, but simply because they express any doubt about her. For example:

“If you hamper the war effort of one side, you automatically help out that of the other” – George Orwell.

Thanks, Ed Morrissey and Allahpundit, you traitors.

atheling on July 5, 2009 at 6:40 PM

This behavior has been going on for a long time. it happens in thread after thread about Sarah Palin. I wish more Palin supporters would step in and help shut it down.

Or, do you think Ed Morrissey a traitor?

Loxodonta on July 31, 2009 at 9:05 AM

I live a few minutes from The Reagan library…I guess they will only have Carrie Pagean at the event.

jbh45 on July 31, 2009 at 9:10 AM

There are hundreds of posts from Palin supporters bullying non-Palin supporters here, not because they are showing unfair contempt for Palin, but simply because they express any doubt about her.

. . .

This behavior has been going on for a long time. it happens in thread after thread about Sarah Palin. I wish more Palin supporters would step in and help shut it down.

Loxodonta on July 31, 2009 at 9:05 AM

I agree. Palin is my favorite politician by far, but I’m not bothered by honest discussion about her weaknesses among well-meaning conservatives.

When we Palinites are hypersensitive and try to silence fair criticism, it makes our cause and candidate look weak. And it’s not, and she’s not.

jazz_piano on July 31, 2009 at 9:18 AM

There are hundreds of posts from Palin supporters bullying non-Palin supporters here, not because they are showing unfair contempt for Palin, but simply because they express any doubt about her.

For some reason, only pure adoration of Palin is acceptable. The Palinistas are becoming worse than Obamabots.

Chekote on July 31, 2009 at 9:20 AM

jazz_piano on July 31, 2009 at 9:18 AM

Thank you very much. More power to you and Sarah.

Loxodonta on July 31, 2009 at 9:23 AM

Predictable: the litter of lefty lite mittens & frumkins constant hissy fits will be a major upside for Palin, whether she runs or not. It was ‘Plugs Biden’s low expectations of the ‘Cuda attack which enabled her to devour him in 2 bytes…amazing what a hockey mom can accomplish with duct tape and a tooth pick!

“Let’s Roll”

On Watch on July 31, 2009 at 9:24 AM

Republican event planners certainly are amateurish. They seem to jump the gun without even the basics nailed down, such as a commitment from a speaker.

AnninCA on July 31, 2009 at 9:24 AM

I’m really beginning to think that people are just saying that she’s going to attend these events but no one actually talks to her and confirms it.

xax on July 31, 2009 at 9:27 AM

Her lack of experience at high level (only 1 and a half year as the governor) will not do after Obama’s amateur hour at the Whit House.

bayview on July 31, 2009 at 8:39 AM

2 and a half. Dont try to inject lies.

the_nile on July 31, 2009 at 8:48 AM

I think it is typical shallowness for someone like you to turn a typo into an accusation of LIE.

bayview on July 31, 2009 at 9:30 AM

For some reason, only pure adoration of Palin is acceptable. The Palinistas are becoming worse than Obamabots.

Chekote on July 31, 2009 at 9:20 AM

Palinphobes’ only line of defense these days appears to be incessant whining. It’s much like Obama when he’s been caught in a lie.

littleguy on July 31, 2009 at 9:30 AM

I’m really beginning to think that people are just saying that she’s going to attend these events but no one actually talks to her and confirms it.

Obviously. There isn’t any way that this is misinformation from Palin. You either ink a contract or you don’t.

Frankly, it’s reflecting badly on the various GOP planners. It rather explains why the national party isn’t particularly effective on the organizational level right now.

AnninCA on July 31, 2009 at 9:34 AM

AnninCA on July 31, 2009 at 9:24 AM

The Palin staff should have addressed this as soon as it hit the papers. They don’t know what they are doing. Her staff is still not ready for the national stage.

Chekote on July 31, 2009 at 9:34 AM

This Palinite will vote for the most conservative candidate with a shot at winning in 2012. I hope it’s Palin, but I’ll back Romney, or Jindal, or Pawlenty, or even Huckabee (groan) against Obama.

For that matter, I’d vote for William J. Clinton to keep Obama from getting another term.

jazz_piano on July 31, 2009 at 9:38 AM


I’m really beginning to think that people are just saying that she’s going to attend these events but no one actually talks to her and confirms it.

I’m starting to realize that this is the case. It seems like many people know they can make money by putting her name on the ticket. So they do it, but no one actually confirms it with her, then you have petty disputes like this. These “miscommunications” plus the targeted ethics complaints all seem like efforts to try and dampen her credibility. If they called 7 weeks ago, then they should have taken her name off.

xax on July 31, 2009 at 9:40 AM

The Palin staff should have addressed this as soon as it hit the papers. They don’t know what they are doing. Her staff is still not ready for the national stage.

From the statement, they did address it. They contacted the organizers. That’s actually how it should work. To go to the press and embarass the organizers publicly without giving them a chance to handle it is pretty rough.

Apparently, the organizers did not follow through properly. That indicates an individual in charge decided to beg her into it.

What’s very clear to me is that more than a few people in these organizations are playing at event planning. This stuff is contractual. She either signed or didn’t.

She didn’t. There’s no wiggling out of that. They are making HER look bad.

AnninCA on July 31, 2009 at 9:42 AM

AP: Political gold? Sort of like Jesus riding into Jerusalem.

It would be political gold if she were running in 2012, but only among her fans. To the left, using this location for launch would have been portrayed as tacky and presumptuous, adjectives that fit the developing SP media template.

When SP speaks at the Reagan library it will be after her political might is demonstrated and acknowledged, and the speech will be tribute to Reagan, not about her. So far she is merely a 5/8 term governor and failed VP candidate who can draw a crowd. Not much of a record, not much of a tribute.

exdeadhead on July 31, 2009 at 9:42 AM

The Palin staff should have addressed this as soon as it hit the papers. They don’t know what they are doing. Her staff is still not ready for the national stage.

Chekote on July 31, 2009 at 9:34 AM

The Simi Valley Republican Women were told weeks ago that Palin respectfully declined the invitation. The idea that Palin should be monitoring the media for phony news regarding her appearances is ridiculous. Numerous other GOP “names” were listed as well, but we have no count of who will actually attend, nor any announcements of who has declined from any of the others. Somehow, Palin is once again held to a different standard by those who wish her harm.

littleguy on July 31, 2009 at 9:43 AM

The Palin staff should have addressed this as soon as it hit the papers. They don’t know what they are doing. Her staff is still not ready for the national stage.

Chekote on July 31, 2009 at 9:34 AM

I could plan an event, say you were speaking and never contact you. Your staff could have privately affirmed that you were not coming, yet I could still say you were. Finally, a public statement from you is forced and everyone blames you for the “miscommunication”.

Get with the program.

darwin on July 31, 2009 at 9:43 AM

…I’ll back Romney, or Jindal, or Pawlenty, or even Huckabee (groan) against Obama.

I don’t know enough about Pawlenty at the moment, therefore, he is the only one I won’t rule out voting for.

Blake on July 31, 2009 at 9:47 AM

Get with the program.

darwin on July 31, 2009 at 9:43 AM

Chiclet is already with the program: she’s a little lefty here to troll.

Blake on July 31, 2009 at 9:48 AM

I do spend a lot of time over at C4P. I do because the writing is informative and that’s where you find out what is rumor and what is hard core news. This website has grown so much in the past 6 months because they actually write about and support Gov. Palin. They are consistent and do their homework. Most of it has been Alaska politics up until July 3. I had to go there to actually get the text of Palin’s speech. I think they were the first to post it. In reading her speech it was totally clear to me what her intentions were and why she was resigning. It wasn’t Ivy League speech, it was plain and easy to understand. Even a Democrat could have figured it out if they were honest. Well they did figure it out and had to re-work it into “quitter” and all the other snarky memes that they have concocted since then. This is what all media does, both MSM and the new media. As far as I can tell Rush is the only one that has consistently supported Palin. He doesn’t gush about it, but you can be sure that he and Sarah are on the same wave length politically.

The commentors on C4P are another story. They are human and say things that are sometimes incorrect just like here at HA. Like August 8 was supposed to be the day Sarah went to Simi Valley for a speech. Now we find out that it was never confirmed. That information had been known for at least two weeks by the women’s club yet they still kept the info up on their website. Now they have “no comment”. Everyone is blaming Meg Stapleton, but it doesn’t seem to be the case. We still don’t know, but it appears that just because she is invited everyone thinks she has accepted. It looks to me that her statement about the media “making things up” seems to apply to more folks than we originally thought.

I guess we are so ready to hear any message that doesn’t tear away our faith in being Americans. Sarah delivers consistently on that one. Only a few in Congress are standing up with a consistent message like hers. Fewer than the fingers on my right hand. When she speaks people listen. Is it any wonder she gets invitations for more events than are humanly possible to consider. Her message is what we all want. Less government, lower taxes, energy independence, and strong national defence. I would crawl over broken glass to vote for her no matter what Ed or AP write about her. As time goes on she will convince more and more people. It’s that simple.

BetseyRoss on July 31, 2009 at 10:00 AM

Puckabee wanted to speak at the event, but you know you get like free water and a meal so she didn’t want to be like other politicians, so the best thing to do was confuse the people who run the dinner and then decline. See this is not politics as usual. She was really looking forward to speaking at the event so she figured since she loved it so much that she would not speak at or attend the event, and the poll of her family was unanimous, with one particular hell yeah in support of not attending. So while an elitist might speak at the event, a non elitist who loves the event would not speak, and I’d just like to thank the troops for giving me the freedom to say this and for giving Puckabee the freedom to decline the event.

LevStrauss on July 31, 2009 at 10:01 AM

blatantblue on July 31, 2009 at 7:52 AM

Unlike the rabid Palin-haters on THIS site?

MM has been completely silent regarding Palin – as is her ABSOLUTE right. In fact IF she is NOT a supporter of Palin MM displays much more discretion and committment to Conservative causes than the majority of the antiPalin crowd here. MM vocalizes her support via positive comments about those people and positions she DOES support and does not join in the bashing of other conservatives. KUDOS to MM.

However since she allows incessant anti-Palin screeds to continue at HA is it suprising if people wonder what her position regarding Palin is?

katiejane on July 31, 2009 at 10:02 AM

Didn’t Edwards give a concession speech in 2004?

BPD on July 30, 2009 at 10:52 PM

Yes as an introduction to Kerry. Sarah came with her speech in hand and had not coordinated with McCain’s people — those amazing org skills on display once again.

Bradky on July 30, 2009 at 10:55 PM

Cannot read thru so many comments here, but this statement above is FALSE. As for a witness there’s the FOX crew embedded with the campaign, it was not that it was not coordinated, they did not let her speak PERIOD. Their excuse was “tradition”; that VP candidates, at these venues when conceding they don’t speak.

The FOX’s young girl that was embedded saw the whole thing and saw what happened and was stunned; everybody expected her to say something but she was muzzled.

I was so sad and wanted so bad to listen to her, but she was not allowed. If there are any Google Monkeys out there, there should be a vid of this b/c it was a Fox News special on reporters during and after the election, their staff, what they did and how they coordinated to bring info to the public.

ProudPalinFan on July 31, 2009 at 10:03 AM

However since she allows incessant anti-Palin screeds to continue at HA is it suprising if people wonder what her position regarding Palin is?

katiejane on July 31, 2009 at 10:02 AM

So, do you think Ed Morrissey is a traitor?

Loxodonta on July 31, 2009 at 10:10 AM

I think the organization of the GOP is ragged, frankly. It’s not just the missteps on these events. It shows in the RNC. It shows in the odd shifts in keynote speakers when Palin was set aside for Gingrich.

It’s just not exactly humming along well.

AnninCA on July 31, 2009 at 10:16 AM

I found this one, read article on the right:

http://www.tunc.biz/Sarah_Palin's_Concession_Speech.htm

ProudPalinFan on July 31, 2009 at 10:25 AM

I think the organization of the GOP is ragged, frankly.

AnninCA on July 31, 2009 at 10:16 AM

It’s raggedy because Palin has shown there is an alternative to the stodgy, elitist, RINO, democrat-lite candidates the GOP mills out.

Palin pisses them off and they don’t know what to do about it.

darwin on July 31, 2009 at 10:28 AM

LevStrauss on July 31, 2009 at 10:01 AM

Your comment was rambling and incoherent.

darwin on July 31, 2009 at 10:30 AM

You disagree

Others demonize

blatantblue on July 31, 2009 at 9:04 AM

Chopping off the most recognized conservative in the country at the knees damages the idea of conservatism. If you are a conservative and care about promoting conservatism, you are damaging your own cause (cutting off your nose to spite your face) and deserve to be demonized for your rank stupidity.

besser tot als rot on July 31, 2009 at 10:33 AM

Or, do you think Ed Morrissey a traitor?

Loxodonta on July 31, 2009 at 9:05 AM

I don’t agree that Ed Morrissey is a traitor of course.

I’d say instead that they’re less than helpful to the conservative cause when they buy into the liberal narrative and that because they are in the position to influence opinion and shape sentiment that they should be more measured in their tones.

Btw…you do understand that Palin supporters are not of a groupthink, right? That some are more ardent than others…some go over the line…while others are not confrontational while still being effusive? That even though Palin fan A says one thing, that doesn’t necessarily mean that all Palin fans feel that way?

And while you pulled up one poster’s opinions, I could (if I wanted to waste my time) pull up a bunch of attacks on Palin and her followers here by people who are republican but not conservatives…or by people who think that if they tear down Palin enough, their candidate will somehow become more palatable.

powerpro on July 31, 2009 at 10:38 AM

Your comment was rambling and incoherent.

darwin on July 31, 2009 at 10:30 AM

I can understand that I am not speaking in your elitist tongues, the voice of the establishment. I’d also like to add that you did not thank the troops for giving you the freedom to make such a comment, patriots act otherwise.

LevStrauss on July 31, 2009 at 10:43 AM

For some reason, only pure adoration of Palin is acceptable. The Palinistas are becoming worse than Obamabots.

Chekote on July 31, 2009 at 9:20 AM

Yet another false and unfair comparison.

If I allow myself the opportunity to speak for others, I think Palin supporters would respect a fair and measured treatment. There’s a huge difference between hoping for reasonable discourse and demanding adoration.

It would be nice for instance if these kinds of conversations didn’t devolve into republicans taking pot shots over things Palin can’t control…something that wreaks of political opportunism.

It would also be nice if people started following Reagan’s 11th commandment.

powerpro on July 31, 2009 at 10:45 AM

MM has been completely silent regarding Palin – as is her ABSOLUTE right.

katiejane on July 31, 2009 at 10:02 AM

So you basically have never read MM’s site.

Either that, or you have selective vision.

I’m guessing the latter.

MadisonConservative on July 31, 2009 at 10:48 AM

Loxodonta on July 31, 2009 at 10:10 AM

I fail to see anything in MY post here or previously where I called either Ed or AP a traitor. Am I now to be held accountable for all the opinions of every pro-Palin supporter?

Should I troll back and find some post where one of the foaming at the mouth anti-Palin HA posters called all her supporters stupid mindless hicks, or rehashed where some poster rehashed every refuted lie about her and hold you accountable for that?

katiejane on July 31, 2009 at 10:49 AM

MadisonConservative on July 31, 2009 at 10:48 AM

A year ago is the best you could find?

So excuse me – I should have said “MM”s sit has generally been silent regarding Palin.

katiejane on July 31, 2009 at 10:52 AM

LevStrauss on July 31, 2009 at 10:43 AM

Much better. I understood you perfectly!

darwin on July 31, 2009 at 10:53 AM

katiejane on July 31, 2009 at 10:49 AM

Yep…because apparently all of us Palin fans share a single brain. We’re all wirelessly connected to the super Palin cranium located in Wasilla.

powerpro on July 31, 2009 at 10:53 AM

A year ago is the best you could find?

So excuse me – I should have said “MM”s sit has generally been silent regarding Palin.

katiejane on July 31, 2009 at 10:52 AM

I went back to the moment Palin was introduced, and Malkin supported her. I’m sorry, do you want a link to every goddamned Palin post on her blog? Then here the hell you go.

Claiming she’s been silent on Palin is intellectual dishonesty to a disturbing extent, and it’s on par with birthers questioning her conservatism for not taking up with their cause.

Good grief, you’re a cult member. Stop turning Palin into your own Obama.

MadisonConservative on July 31, 2009 at 10:57 AM

A year ago is the best you could find?

So excuse me – I should have said “MM”s sit has generally been silent regarding Palin.

katiejane on July 31, 2009 at 10:52 AM

MM also supported the “I am Sarah Palin” thing last year.

I don’t think MM doesn’t support Palin btw. We know she’s out promoting her book (which I’ve got to remember to order this weekend) and attacking these thugs and cronies for who they are and what they represent.

I think as we get closer to 2010 and 2012, we’ll see more posts on potential conservative frontrunners for the House, Senate and White House on her blog.

This is just my guess of course but I think she’s just focused on other pressing issues right now.

powerpro on July 31, 2009 at 10:57 AM

The fact is, Reagan and Goldwater did something that Palin hasn’t: read. They read Burke, Paine, the Federalist Papers, the classics, history, economics.

Palin is a lovely lady. But she is woefully ignorant.

The word for her, in the old days, was provincial.

guntotinglibertarian on July 31, 2009 at 1:35 AM

So amusing to see self-appointed “intellectuals” spouting things uncritically imbibed from the chattering Obama-worshipping media.

Or perhaps you are just exercising the typical libertarian schtick of throwing spitballs at Republicans from the peanut gallery while simultaneously lecturing how much we “need” you.

You also seem to have a short memory, if you don’t recall that the same sorts who hate Palin and cackle over how stoopid she is said the same thing about Reagan. The comparisons to Reagan should provide some perspective here, but you obviously would like to cling to your stereotype.

evergreen on July 31, 2009 at 10:57 AM

Good grief, you’re a cult member. Stop turning Palin into your own Obama.

MadisonConservative on July 31, 2009 at 10:57 AM

I’ll do that after you stop making her the downfall of the universe.

katiejane on July 31, 2009 at 11:00 AM

I’ll do that after you stop making her the downfall of the universe.

katiejane on July 31, 2009 at 11:00 AM

…and how have I been doing that, hm?

Oh yeah. I said that her resigning was a bad move. Might as well have said the world was ending.

MadisonConservative on July 31, 2009 at 11:02 AM

Does anyone know how many of the also-rans who were invited to appear at this event declined? Should I hold my breath waiting to see them crucified for not publicizing their non-attendance?

littleguy on July 31, 2009 at 11:03 AM

I’ll do that after you stop making her the downfall of the universe.

katiejane on July 31, 2009 at 11:00 AM

…and how have I been doing that, hm?

Oh yeah. I said that her resigning was a bad move. Might as well have said the world was ending.

MadisonConservative on July 31, 2009 at 11:02 AM

Katiejane, don’t waste any bandwidth with this guy.

Americannodash on July 31, 2009 at 11:10 AM

Katiejane, don’t waste any bandwidth with this guy.

Americannodash on July 31, 2009 at 11:10 AM

Still waiting for you to have the guts to realize you had no idea who you were talking about. I guess I’ll be waiting a while. madisonconservativehotair at gmail dot com

MadisonConservative on July 31, 2009 at 11:13 AM

powerpro on July 31, 2009 at 10:38 AM

I don’t agree that Ed Morrissey is a traitor of course.

I’d say instead that they’re less than helpful to the conservative cause when they buy into the liberal narrative and that because they are in the position to influence opinion and shape sentiment that they should be more measured in their tones.

Thanks for that clarification. The thing is though, Sarah Palin does not equal “the conservative cause.” No individual does. There are other public figures who might become the GOP’s presidential nominee. And all of them must be able to stand up to criticism and be vetted.

Btw…you do understand that Palin supporters are not of a groupthink, right? That some are more ardent than others…some go over the line…while others are not confrontational while still being effusive? That even though Palin fan A says one thing, that doesn’t necessarily mean that all Palin fans feel that way?

Yes, I understand and very much appreciate the Palin supporters who are not into group think and don’t regularly go on campaigns to silence all doubt about Sarah Palin, but support their candidate positively.

I just wish more Palin supporters helped in the effort to rein in the worst offenders in their midst. It’s far more effective when done by known Palin advocates. And, that will help reduce the acrimony here and in the Party, and improve our chances for 2010 and 2012.

And while you pulled up one poster’s opinions, I could (if I wanted to waste my time) pull up a bunch of attacks on Palin and her followers here by people who are republican but not conservatives…or by people who think that if they tear down Palin enough, their candidate will somehow become more palatable.

Much of the criticism of Palin has been vicious and unfair, but not all. And some of it has indeed been generated by supporters of other possible 2012 candidates, but not all.

Loxodonta on July 31, 2009 at 11:16 AM

Loxodonta on July 31, 2009 at 11:16 AM

Palin does not equal the conservative cause…that’s true.

But to my knowledge, she is the only one of the supposed frontrunners who exemplifies…who lives conservatism. She doesn’t just talk the talk.

And while I agree that the eventual nominee must stand up to scrutiny…is that what’s really going on here or are people using another opportunity outside of Palin’s control to frame their narrative of her? Are the comments and complaints her genuine vetting or are they snipes taken at a person they perceive is down and open to attack?

BTW I will stand up this fervently for any and all conservatives getting this treatment. Palin just happens to be the most prominent voice for conservatism in the GOP right now.

powerpro on July 31, 2009 at 11:24 AM

Btw…you do understand that Palin supporters are not of a groupthink, right? That some are more ardent than others…some go over the line…while others are not confrontational while still being effusive? That even though Palin fan A says one thing, that doesn’t necessarily mean that all Palin fans feel that way?

No sir. There are ardent supporters and there are Democrats. If you criticize her in the least you are definitely a Democrat and scared of her. If you say that she doesn’t have the policy knowledge to do the job, you are a democrat and scared. If you say she comes off as goofy you are a elitist and scared. If you say that there are better candidates you are either a RINO and scared or a democrat and scared. That’s what it comes down to, the patriots and the scared democrat/elitist/liberal/RINO coalition that wants stuff like coherent sentences and substance, but all they really want to do is defame the troops who gave them the freedom to whine and lie about Puckabee. All the people against Puckabee (those who criticize anything about her) are troop hating, child rape advocating, three syllable word speaking, pinky raising Ivory tower liberals. I’d just like to thank the troops for letting me say this.

LevStrauss on July 31, 2009 at 11:25 AM

katiejane on July 31, 2009 at 10:49 AM

I fail to see anything in MY post here or previously where I called either Ed or AP a traitor.

I believe you were criticizing Hot Air’s treatment of Palin when you stated in your previous post:

However since she allows incessant anti-Palin screeds to continue at HA is it suprising if people wonder what her position regarding Palin is?

So, was seeking clarification of your views.

Am I now to be held accountable for all the opinions of every pro-Palin supporter?

Of course not. However, the pro-palin bullies are here and they’re doing they’re bullying in Sarah Palin’s name.

Should I troll back and find some post where one of the foaming at the mouth anti-Palin HA posters called all her supporters stupid mindless hicks, or rehashed where some poster rehashed every refuted lie about her and hold you accountable for that?

No need, I’ve been dealing with them here and on other threads.

Loxodonta on July 31, 2009 at 11:25 AM

Palin pisses them off and they don’t know what to do about it.

Well, she has nothing to do with the RNC, and that hasn’t exactly been a smooth story for the GOP.

AnninCA on July 31, 2009 at 11:26 AM

I’ll do that after you stop making her the downfall of the universe.

katiejane on July 31, 2009 at 11:00 AM

He was criticizing you, not Sarah Palin.

Loxodonta on July 31, 2009 at 11:27 AM

Much of the criticism of Palin has been vicious and unfair, but not all. And some of it has indeed been generated by supporters of other possible 2012 candidates, but not all.

Loxodonta on July 31, 2009 at 11:16 AM

Yes the conspiracy runs deep. We must be vigilant against Puckabee’s detractors, for they are nothing but elitists, and while the elitists currently rule, we will eventually take over and then we will have the “dictatorship” of the non elitists, where the majority finally is represented versus the elitist “bourgeoisie” minority, they love french words.

I’d just like to thank the troops for giving me the freedom to make this comment.

LevStrauss on July 31, 2009 at 11:29 AM

And while I agree that the eventual nominee must stand up to scrutiny…is that what’s really going on here or are people using another opportunity outside of Palin’s control to frame their narrative of her? Are the comments and complaints her genuine vetting or are they snipes taken at a person they perceive is down and open to attack?

I think the blogosphere’s influence is overrated. In fact, major media which is now snipping from blogs for stories has been burned repeatedly for doing that. What’s outrageous on Huffington Post, for example, is not what the common person out tooling around in life thinks.

So sniping doesn’t really hurt anything. It just reveals the obvious reality…the party is divided. Heck, we all knew that one.

I like Coulter’s viewpoint. She says, this has always been the case with the GOP. Traditionalists versus the more populist movements.

AnninCA on July 31, 2009 at 11:29 AM

And now HA has posted a poll by a polling group who screwed up the 2008 election results by something like 20 points.

But it shows Palin one point less favorable than favorable so who cares whether or not the polling firm puts out crappy results?

powerpro on July 31, 2009 at 11:31 AM

Much of the criticism of Palin has been vicious and unfair, but not all. And some of it has indeed been generated by supporters of other possible 2012 candidates, but not all.

Loxodonta on July 31, 2009 at 11:16 AM

I guess I’m not seeing many posts regarding the other potential candidates, such that they could be criticized and vetted. Perhaps I’m wrong, but it looks to me that Palin is the most criticized politician in recent times. Her most serious defect appears to have been having said yes to John McCain — as it turns out, something as hazardous to your reputation to being a FOB.

littleguy on July 31, 2009 at 11:32 AM

However since she allows incessant anti-Palin screeds to continue at HA is it suprising if people wonder what her position regarding Palin is?

Don’t worry, once the elitists are overthrown, and the non elitists take control of the party, we will eliminate the traitorous elitist influence from the party through a series of purges. The “majority” faction will rule over the “minority” faction and its squishy Republicanism. Thanks again troops.

LevStrauss on July 31, 2009 at 11:33 AM

Related:

Allahpundit outed.

Stephen M on July 31, 2009 at 11:37 AM

powerpro on July 31, 2009 at 11:24 AM

Thanks, again. Yes. Much of the criticism of Palin is unfair, bigoted, elitist and spewed forth mostly by Obama supporters and then by supporters of other potential GOP nominees. But there is fair criticism and doubt being expressed here and that that is also slammed by a few of Palin’s supporters.

Last night, I was falsely accused of using condescending language against Sarah Palin, and then was ordered to state who I wanted as a candidate now. I am not going to submit to such treatment by some Palin supporters and not willing to stand by idly and watch that done to others. It’s un-American.

Loxodonta on July 31, 2009 at 11:37 AM

The peak has come and gone for Victim status for Palin. We’re now all ready to see her unroll whatever her plan may be, but in a positive sense.

Nothing good comes from negativity.

AnninCA on July 31, 2009 at 11:40 AM

Americannodash on July 31, 2009 at 11:10 AM

Still waiting for your clarifications of the false accusations you made against me.

Loxodonta on July 31, 2009 at 11:40 AM

Still waiting for your clarifications of the false accusations you made against me.

Loxodonta on July 31, 2009 at 11:40 AM

You’ll be waiting a looooong time. The only reality he accepts is the one he invents. If he thinks the sky is green, he’ll refuse to look up if you suggest otherwise.

MadisonConservative on July 31, 2009 at 11:42 AM

littleguy on July 31, 2009 at 11

She is the top of the list

expectations are high and she’s a favorite among ha commentera

that gives her more posts

blatantblue on July 31, 2009 at 11:45 AM

Loxodonta on July 31, 2009 at 11:25 AM

And I stand behind my OPINION that HA allows/if not encourages the personal anti-Palin story by posting every negative bit of info available because it generates traffic Am I to believe that HA has had anywhere near the negative threads on Romney, Jindal, Pawlenty? Or do we not get negative threads about them because EVERYTHING they do is perfect?

As for the “bullying by Palin supporters” – are you serious? Given the level of anti-Palin bashing that routinely goes on at HA it appears that few if any of those who dislike her are either intimidated or restrained from posting what they think. We STILL hear the “she doesn’t read anything, she sees Russia from her porch, she rambles incoherently, , blah, blah. I’m suprised we aren’t still getting “what about that $150K of clothing she bought?” Are the pro-Palin supporters sending you nasty emails? Posting personal attacks defaming your children? But somehow they are bullying the poor posters who are just going about their business calling Palin too stupid to function?

You tell the pro-Palin poster they should “rein in the worst offenders in their midst” – who exactly is going to step up and “rein in” the bashers? Many Palin supporters realize she has shortcomings and may indeed not end up being the best choice for 2012. However the level of constant demeaning attacks for perceived or valid imperfections causes them to mount to her defense.

katiejane on July 31, 2009 at 11:45 AM

katiejane…nobody cares about Pawlenty or Romney. There’s never a story. Period. LOL*

I can’t figure out how they manage to even stay up high in the GOP polls.

By the way, when I thought Palin was going to this deal, I was surprised.

It’s really a penny ante kind of deal. Tickets are a hundred bucks.

That’s not exactly what I call a big roll-out move.

I puzzled over that one. Now, I see what’s happened. Someone in Simi Valley was dreaming big. *haha

AnninCA on July 31, 2009 at 11:51 AM

Last night, I was falsely accused of using condescending language against Sarah Palin, and then was ordered to state who I wanted as a candidate now. I am not going to submit to such treatment by some Palin supporters and not willing to stand by idly and watch that done to others. It’s un-American.

Loxodonta on July 31, 2009 at 11:37 AM

I made a mistake in adding you to that list okay. I remember writing to you that it was late, I was tired and that I was sorry.

Ordered? I would like these other gentlemen to promote the candidate that they would support if the election was to held tomorrow.

How can you misrepresent this question as an order?

Americannodash on July 31, 2009 at 11:51 AM

Am I to believe that HA has had anywhere near the negative threads on Romney, Jindal, Pawlenty?

Are you saying that any of them are nearly as high-profile in the media as Palin?

MadisonConservative on July 31, 2009 at 11:53 AM

katiejane on July 31, 2009 at 11:45 AM

Yes. I am very serious about the degree frequency of some Palin supporters who bully, stigmatize and attempt to use any means to silence any doubt and even any fair criticism regarding Palin from members in good standing of our party.

It’s very easy to demolish bridges. It takes a lot of patience, work and time to build them.

Loxodonta on July 31, 2009 at 11:54 AM

Americannodash on July 31, 2009 at 11:51 AM

Still waiting.

Loxodonta on July 31, 2009 at 11:56 AM

Loxodonta on July 31, 2009 at 11:56 AM

You could try offering to talk to him through email, but he lives in movieland where an anonymous email address will be hacked as soon as he touches his keyboard.

MadisonConservative on July 31, 2009 at 11:58 AM

Lets see, Kate Couric is a complete embarrassment to CBS
in ratings and in actions….

Frankly gorgeous Palin just displays more wisdom in all her interviews….and is now sought after more than Katie can
ever dream of.

It will be great to see Palin when she finally gets here
in California on her own schedule.

dec5 on July 31, 2009 at 6:55 AM

None of that negates the fact that she answered “All of them…any of them that have been in front of me over all these years…” to the question “What magazines do you read?”

If someone asked me about my news sources, I might feel the need to limit that number so I don’t sound obsessed. But the thought that this woman who is not new to interviews or reporting simply blew it. Additionally, she panders to Couric with the BS line about reading the phantom newspapers of hers “with a great appreciation for the media.” Unbelievable.

Her resignation letter reads like a rambling blog screed complete with random fits of caps-locking. Every other public appearance she has made has been marked by inane one-liners and silly colloquialisms. No other candidate could run with such a deep quiver of non-specific platform ideas except for Arnold Schwarzenegger.

The Race Card on July 31, 2009 at 12:01 PM

It’s very easy to demolish bridges. It takes a lot of patience, work and time to build them.

Loxodonta on July 31, 2009 at 11:54 AM

And is it “bridge building” to attack her supporters when no one even knows IF she intends to run for national office? Is it “bridge building” to call her supporters Palinbots, Palinistas?

katiejane on July 31, 2009 at 12:07 PM

And is it “bridge building” to attack her supporters when no one even knows IF she intends to run for national office? Is it “bridge building” to call her supporters Palinbots, Palinistas?

katiejane on July 31, 2009 at 12:07 PM

If the bridge is covered with people who attack anyone who criticizes Palin, EVER, it’s better to burn those bridges.

MadisonConservative on July 31, 2009 at 12:08 PM

Is it “bridge building” to call her supporters Palinbots, Palinistas?

katiejane on July 31, 2009 at 12:07 PM

Palin supporters are building a bridge to Nowhere.

The Race Card on July 31, 2009 at 12:19 PM

It’s very easy to demolish bridges. It takes a lot of patience, work and time to build them.

Loxodonta on July 31, 2009 at 11:54 AM

Is this representative of the “vetting” you had in mind:

No other candidate could run with such a deep quiver of non-specific platform ideas except for Arnold Schwarzenegger.

The Race Card on July 31, 2009 at 12:01 PM

More rehashing of the old blather. Couric spent her time with Palin trying to trip her up, and yet the one thing that still captures the Palinphobes’ attention is the answer about the periodicals. Palin wasn’t playing the game. She still won’t play the game. I like that… a lot.

littleguy on July 31, 2009 at 12:21 PM

And is it “bridge building” to attack her supporters when no one even knows IF she intends to run for national office? Is it “bridge building” to call her supporters Palinbots, Palinistas?

katiejane on July 31, 2009 at 12:07 PM

Is it bridge building to have an organized group tracking, bullying, threatening and personally name calling anyone who is neutral about Palin, anyone who expresses any doubt about Palin, anyone who expresses any criticism of Palin, no matter how fair that criticism is, and no matter how outspoken their support for the GOP or conservative causes?

And is it bridge building when these attacks are being done personally, as in people personally, by name, being repeatedly labeled a squish, a traitor, a CINO, a RINO, condescending, ridiculing, a troll, a narcissist, juvenile, a crybaby, you name it.

No.

Thou shalt not speak ill of any fellow Republican.

— President Ronald Reagan’s Eleventh Commandment

This isn’t political discussion. it isn’t defending a candidate. It’s more like a cult that uses coercion to force submission. And that’s what the worst of the Palin supporters are doing. And it is adding fuel to the fire of her unfair critics, demolishing all bridges within the GOP so that there will be only one left standing, the bridge to Palin. And this divisive behavior is un-American.

Loxodonta on July 31, 2009 at 12:22 PM

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