Initial jobless claims increase again

posted at 11:36 am on July 30, 2009 by Ed Morrissey

Put away the streamers and stop the chorus from singing “Happy Days Are Here Again,” at least for a while.  Bloomberg reports that initial jobless claims rose again last week by 25,000 as more that 584,000 Americans applied for unemployment benefits for the first time.  While the four-week average of initial jobless claims dropped, this increase hints at continued escalation of the national unemployment rate:

The number of Americans filing claims for jobless benefits last week held below levels seen in late June, before auto-related distortions set in, indicating firings are slowing as the economy stabilizes.

Applications rose by 25,000 to 584,000 in the week ended July 25, higher than forecast, figures from the Labor Department showed today in Washington. More than 600,000 claims were filed every week last month. The number of people collecting unemployment insurance decreased for a third week.

An analyst at Labor said distortions from the timing of auto-plant shutdowns “worked themselves out” of the data last week, returning claims to “trend.” While a resumption in hiring will be slow to materialize, payroll reductions are likely to slow as housing and manufacturing, the areas that led the economy into the worst recession in five decades, steady.

“Initial claims are still trending lower, which does suggest some improvement in conditions,” said Michelle Meyer, an economist at Barclays Capital Inc. in New York, which had forecast claims would increase to 585,000. “What we are seeing is less firing.”

We may be seeing less firing, but we’re still seeing plenty of it.  More than a half-million people had to apply for unemployment last week, which means that we’re not seeing new jobs created.

In fact, I’d challenge the notion that we’re seeing less firing.  The four-week average hit 559,000, and last week’s number was 554,000.  The latest figure will push the average higher in the next couple of weeks, which is what happens when the rate of claims increases.

Even if it did slow down, say to 500,000 a week, we’d bleed several million jobs by the end of the year.  How exactly does that portend a recovery?  In 2003, pundits derided the idea that we had turned the corner and begun a recovery, and at that time, the worst month for unemployment expansion was 669,000 newly unemployed (July).   The last three months haven’t had less than 900,000, by the same measurement, but the media continues to talk up the idea that the recession has already ended.

Read the end of the Bloomberg article.  While the analysts try to give this an optimistic spin, you’ll notice that they have now begun to say that the American economy is “nearing” bottom, and that the recovery will be next year, not in the third quarter of 2009, as the White House had predicted.  Will that find its way into the national media?

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C’mon! Who are you gonna believe? The Labor Department or Newsweek?

Doughboy on July 30, 2009 at 11:38 AM

Recession is Over! Your chocolate ration has been increased to 5 grams/day. A glorious victory over Eurasia.

daesleeper on July 30, 2009 at 11:39 AM

Cupcakeulus.

/stole :-P

Abby Adams on July 30, 2009 at 11:39 AM

Obama really has delivered change to America.

ChrisB on July 30, 2009 at 11:39 AM

Barry,

Where are the jobs?

The Rock on July 30, 2009 at 11:40 AM

The four-week average hit 559,000, and last week’s number was 554,000.

559,000 minus 554,000 = 5,000 jobs saved by Obama in one week!

The recession is clearly over!

forest on July 30, 2009 at 11:40 AM

No no no. Here’s your median spin:

More people file for unemployment claims are job outlook improves.

lorien1973 on July 30, 2009 at 11:40 AM

That number will be 0 soon as every single person will be unemployed and nobody left to apply anymore.

angryed on July 30, 2009 at 11:40 AM

Rahm: You’re welcome.

lorien1973 on July 30, 2009 at 11:40 AM

It will hit bottom when the only employees left are working for the government or McDonalds. Then the government will take over McDonalds.

Daggett on July 30, 2009 at 11:41 AM

United Airlines is presently laying off people even as we speak. They just furloughed over 1,000 flight attendants this month, and today and tomorrow are laying off a large number of staff from their headquarters.

Yeah, tell me how improved things are with the economy, B.O.!

pilamaye on July 30, 2009 at 11:41 AM

C’mon! Who are you gonna believe? The Labor Department or Newsweek?

Doughboy on July 30, 2009 at 11:38 AM

The way Newsweek is losing readers, the two will be meeting soon.

ChrisB on July 30, 2009 at 11:41 AM

This calls for a beer.

vcferlita on July 30, 2009 at 11:41 AM

1. Drill here drill now= 2 million jobs
2. Start building nuclear power plants=2 milion more jobs.
3. Get the 20 million illegal aliens to leave, making 5 to 10 million jobs available.

Creates between 9 and 14 million jobs.

Recession over.

The Rock on July 30, 2009 at 11:41 AM

C’mon! Who are you gonna believe? The Labor Department or Obamaweek?

Doughboy on July 30, 2009 at 11:38 AM

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Not sorry to say that… Newsweek is dead to me.
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RalphyBoy on July 30, 2009 at 11:42 AM

Go Barry – screw it up more

Putz

bwconq on July 30, 2009 at 11:42 AM

“It works as intended”

the_nile on July 30, 2009 at 11:43 AM

they have now begun to say that the American economy is “nearing” bottom, and that the recovery will be next year, not in the third quarter of 2009, as the White House had predicted. Will that find its way into the national media?

If the national media to which you are referring is HotAir.com, then yes, it will find its way there.

VibrioCocci on July 30, 2009 at 11:43 AM

Stimulate my economy here

The Rock on July 30, 2009 at 11:43 AM

The number of people collecting unemployment insurance decreased for a third week.

What an interesting way to report the fact that about 350,000 people came off the rolls, not due to getting a job, but because they moved from primary unemployment benefits to the extended benefits program.

Vashta.Nerada on July 30, 2009 at 11:43 AM

I’d like to pee on that stupid O-cupcake thingy in the pic.

infidel4life on July 30, 2009 at 11:44 AM

Obama: I wouldn’t change a thing.

lorien1973 on July 30, 2009 at 11:44 AM

You can add this to the rediculous spin on the housing numbers…three positive months in a row! (btw, it’s the summer, stupid, not that anyone cares to report that little expected annual trend).

Don’t fight it Ed, embrace the “Hope” and have a cupcake, part of Obama’s essential food groups.

NickelAndDime on July 30, 2009 at 11:45 AM

Cloward-Piven in practice.

daesleeper on July 30, 2009 at 11:45 AM

let them eat cupcakes.

weewilly on July 30, 2009 at 11:46 AM

I’ll bet those cupcakes taste bitter today.

Monica on July 30, 2009 at 11:46 AM

It’s going to get better. Once the Democratic agenda crashes and burns – as it’s doing now … the economy will improve. It already is starting to get that way.

Obama will take credit. Watch out.

HondaV65 on July 30, 2009 at 11:47 AM

And the Dow is up 150 points.

Mark1971 on July 30, 2009 at 11:47 AM

Why is Obama following policies that make Hispanic and AA unemployment rates even worse? Why won’t he provide some tax relief to companies and individuals so that they can rehire? And what about reducing the min. wage to entice companies to hire some teens? They just raised it last week according to an earlier schedule, but the economy has changed and the min. wage is now discouraging hiring.

JiangxiDad on July 30, 2009 at 11:47 AM

From the Pew poll in headlines:

“Yet Obama is widely liked by the public on a more personal level, with close to three-quarters (74%) saying they like the kind of person he is and the way he leads his life. Asked why, among the most frequent responses offered are impressions that he is honest, has integrity, is a good father and is intelligent.

Hmmm . . . ‘honest’ and ‘integrity’ aren’t the first two words that come to mind when I think of the President.

jazz_piano on July 30, 2009 at 11:47 AM

Look at the stock market today. Up around 150 by mid-day. Then look at the top 10 news stories. All bad news. Savvy investors are slowly finding a way to make money anyway. Joe Schmo will get burned again if he/she snorts too much fairy dust.

And the number of people remaining on the jobless benefit rolls unexpectedly fell to 6.2 million from 6.25 million, the lowest level since mid-April.

“Fell” is right – they probably fell off the back end of their benefits.

Sprinkle, spinkle…

Mr_Magoo on July 30, 2009 at 11:48 AM

Barry! your doing a heck of a job!

grapeknutz on July 30, 2009 at 11:48 AM

And how bad are these numbers going to get now that the minimum wage increase kicked in last week?

How many people haven’t even applied for unemployment benefits yet because they’re still living off their severance package?

Knucklehead on July 30, 2009 at 11:49 AM

Cue “It’s Magic” music…

What? Are you questioning the One’s statements about creating or saving jobs? How un-American! How about the 60 billion we have spent to create “green” jobs — sure, we have yet to actually define what a “green” job is, but we’re working on it! Jeez, people…if only we had more money…yeah, that’s the ticket..

/sarc

lovedinthekeys on July 30, 2009 at 11:50 AM

And the Dow is up 150 points.

Mark1971 on July 30, 2009 at 11:47 AM

During Bush, liberals would say: Big business is making profits by firing the working man. Screw them!

During Obama: Hey! Big business is making profits. Obama is god.

lorien1973 on July 30, 2009 at 11:50 AM

What an interesting way to report the fact that about 350,000 people came off the rolls, not due to getting a job, but because they moved from primary unemployment benefits to the extended benefits program.

Vashta.Nerada on July 30, 2009 at 11:43 AM

Exactly. This is very bad news.

Riposte on July 30, 2009 at 11:51 AM

If they pass the cap and trade and healthcare package things are going to get worse. I have clients that are looking to move their manufacturing to China, Mexico and Swiss areas to place their corporations out of reach. Remember they guy that described the “giant sucking sound” regarding the free trade act, this will be far worse. Are these folks in washington actually that removed from reality?

workingforpigs on July 30, 2009 at 11:51 AM

What comes after the extended benefits?

becki51758 on July 30, 2009 at 11:52 AM

This is a great time for the political class to go on vacation. I hope enough of them show up at home and not at Countrywide-funded beach houses in Delaware for the true outrage of the average citizen to become clear to people who normally have gatekeepers to keep the riff raff out of the way while the lobbyists are entertained.

highhopes on July 30, 2009 at 11:53 AM

I have been alive during 13 presidential administrations, from the great depression to whatever the hell you want to call this debacle, however the only president I ever really despised was Carter until now, and my feelings about this man make my feelings about Carter mild indeed. I am so afraid for our country and everytime I see my grandchildren and now great grandchildren I feel a true sadness and fear in my being for their future. I beg all you young red blooded Americans to fight as never before for all that America has stood for and to bring her back to her rightful place. Our country needs you as much as we have ever needed the strength of American values to defend an enemy that unfortunatly is more dangerous to our nation domestically then foreign.
God Bless you all.

amex on July 30, 2009 at 11:54 AM

At what point will people start to be inelgible for unemployment benefits?

hawksruleva on July 30, 2009 at 11:54 AM

Great- now the Phlegm ‘n Craps have a bigger disaster to blame Bush for!

corona on July 30, 2009 at 11:54 AM

Are these folks in washington actually that removed from reality?

workingforpigs on July 30, 2009 at 11:51 AM

I think that they know exactly what they are doing.

farright on July 30, 2009 at 11:54 AM

What comes after the extended benefits?

becki51758 on July 30, 2009 at 11:52 AM

You’re shovel ready!

Monica on July 30, 2009 at 11:54 AM

Yep! Claims are up…I am one of them for the first time in my life and I am in my 50′s

Thanks Barry. Keep up the good work!

robo on July 30, 2009 at 11:54 AM

But Newsweek says the recession is over. And Newsweek is never wrong.
RR

ramrants on July 30, 2009 at 11:54 AM

Pretty soon Obama will take credit for the rising unemployment rate. They keep saying the recession is over – Yes it is – The Obamapression has Began!!! May Obama be short-lived….all flail Obama!!!

izoneguy on July 30, 2009 at 11:54 AM

What comes after the extended benefits?

becki51758 on July 30, 2009 at 11:52 AM

the dems will run on extending extended benefits in 2010.

weewilly on July 30, 2009 at 11:54 AM

You can add this to the rediculous spin on the housing numbers…three positive months in a row!

NickelAndDime on July 30, 2009 at 11:45 AM

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My luck… Shopped for 5 years to find just the right isolated retirement/astronomy/nature/emergency-retreat property. Settled in Feb. Now, some builder has bought 15 acres across from my place and is already in the land prep phase of putting in 15-$350,000. In this HOUSING MARKET? Damn.
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Great for my resale value, but then what? I’m thinking an island.
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Just a guess, but 15 families will soon be retreating from some S. Jersey or Philly area soon to be cesspool. There goes the neighborhood.

RalphyBoy on July 30, 2009 at 11:55 AM

Well if you did porno art you’d have a job right now.

Caper29 on July 30, 2009 at 11:55 AM

Are these folks in washington actually that removed from reality?

workingforpigs on July 30, 2009 at 11:51 AM

I think that they know exactly what they are doing.

farright on July 30, 2009 at 11:54 AM

It’s time to remove them from their reality…get out the shovels.

izoneguy on July 30, 2009 at 11:56 AM

What comes after the extended benefits?

becki51758 on July 30, 2009 at 11:52 AM

No more more money, no more consumer spending, no more economy.

Riposte on July 30, 2009 at 11:56 AM

So when does the next round of foreclosures hit? Not the stupid greedy people financed by Fannie/Freddie’s bad business practices but the people who get booted because they haven’t had income for months. I’ll bet you that we will soon see a return to the idea that TARP needs to bail these people out by buying their homes and renting them back to them at some level they can afford.

highhopes on July 30, 2009 at 11:57 AM

During Bush, liberals would say: Big business is making profits by firing the working man. Screw them!

During Obama: Hey! Big business is making profits. Obama is god.

lorien1973 on July 30, 2009 at 11:50 AM

Sorry, my friend, but bull. You forget the liberal mindset – seriously, remember Libs were in an uproar over Goldman Sach’s record profits just last week. “How dare any financial firm employ sound business practices to make a record profit – and maybe even increase hiring – when union-burdened companies and the economy at large are struggling. Goldie must be employing unethical practices, or even criminal ones to have performed such a feat. Either way they should be subject to confiscatory taxes.”

ChrisB on July 30, 2009 at 11:58 AM

I’m no mathmetician, but if there were no jobs at all, the number of new jobless claims would be zero, wouldn’t it.

Imagine the press euporia if that ever happens.

notagool on July 30, 2009 at 11:58 AM

weewilly on July 30, 2009 at 11:54 AM

I know a few people who are getting close to that now…the extended is running out. Then what?

A plane ticket to Miami, maybe?

becki51758 on July 30, 2009 at 11:58 AM

amex on July 30, 2009 at 11:54 AM

Thanks for your post. We’re fighting.

jazz_piano on July 30, 2009 at 11:59 AM

“…and that the recovery will be next year, not in the third quarter of 2009.”

Recovery next year? As in “new” jobs? Only in bizarro world.

moonsbreath on July 30, 2009 at 11:59 AM

And the Dow is up 150 points.

Mark1971 on July 30, 2009 at 11:47 AM

Sometimes when big companies cut overhead (jobs) it helps their stock. Not sure why the media aren’t looking into this angle.

Oh right – Obama!

forest on July 30, 2009 at 12:00 PM

Caper29 on July 30, 2009 at 11:55 AM

Isnt that nice? Where is Joe who is supposed to make sure there is no corruption? This to me is corruption. blah

becki51758 on July 30, 2009 at 12:00 PM

Great for my resale value, but then what? I’m thinking an island.

Have you considered staying put and installing a moat? I would have suggested a wall but then people would call your spread a compound and if your name isn’t Teddy Kennedy or Michael Jackson, it generally is not a positive thing to have people refer to the family compound.

highhopes on July 30, 2009 at 12:01 PM

The Rock on July 30, 2009 at 11:41 AM

The Rock/Palin 2012!

Akzed on July 30, 2009 at 12:01 PM

Don’t jobs generally increase in the summer months with more building and Agriculture related part timers joining the employed?

If’n its’this bad now wait till fall?

The markets up because the Buffons are leavin D.C. without out a vote on Pinnochios’ healthscare Money grab?

I can’t wait for Christmas I’m sure all the good little Obamabots will get a present from Santa! Maybe even a partime job or just some more of my cash! NOT!

Hey, Pinnochio,
Whose Mortgage am I payin? I want to go see what the Hell I’m payin for and make sure they aren’t trashin the place!

dhunter on July 30, 2009 at 12:01 PM

..just when he thought it was safe to go back in the water. The DOW may be up but the Rasmussen Daily has him at -12 today. Noticing a trend here, are we folks?

Pretty soon, the MSM stories will start commenting on why The Boy King is tanking, then they will start bringing up some of the warts in his administrations and — when those articles start to move dead-tree media and circulation rises — the editors will spike less and less of the “Failed President” series from budding Woodward and Bernstein types..

..and, by that time, it will be 2012 and Barry will not be able to buy a vote.

VoyskaPVO on July 30, 2009 at 12:02 PM

Recovery next year? As in “new” jobs? Only in bizarro world.

moonsbreath on July 30, 2009 at 11:59 AM

It’s called a ‘jobless recovery.’

People with jobs are fine, people on unemployment and welfare get by, then hyperinflation kicks in and the real misery begins.

jazz_piano on July 30, 2009 at 12:04 PM

becki51758 on July 30, 2009 at 11:58 AM

That would be the Government Issued Tent, or the box from your neighbors 55″ screen TV that they bought with the new minimum wage increase-
/sarc

Ladywolfnl on July 30, 2009 at 12:04 PM

So when does the next round of foreclosures hit? Not the stupid greedy people financed by Fannie/Freddie’s bad business practices but the people who get booted because they haven’t had income for months. .

highhopes on July 30, 2009 at 11:57 AM

My goodness, haven’t heard the news Comrade? There will be no more foreclosures if Barney gets his way again.

Knucklehead on July 30, 2009 at 12:05 PM

600 billion can give 30 million a twenty thousand dollar job salary for a year.

PrezHussein on July 30, 2009 at 12:06 PM

The people of the “Controlling Party” in Washington create their own reality, so, in their reality all is “peachy keen,” and their is no unemployment problem. I guess the unenlightened masses just don’t get it, but they can go to the local Government Kool-Aid stand to get their drink of “Government Lite.”

DL13 on July 30, 2009 at 12:06 PM

But I thought they’d rescued the economy?

Rogue on July 30, 2009 at 12:06 PM

I guess Obama figures it’ll be easier to rebuild the nation in His image if he destroys the old first.

genso on July 30, 2009 at 12:07 PM

Ed, also the Star Tribune reports that the Cash-for-Clunkers has been great in getting folks into showrooms. They also report the dealers can’t get Uncle Sugar to cough up the money.

Limerick on July 30, 2009 at 12:07 PM

Don’t jobs generally increase in the summer months with more building and Agriculture related part timers joining the employed?

dhunter on July 30, 2009 at 12:01 PM

There are seasonal jobs that run during the warmer months, then lay off each winter so the workers can draw unemployment.

A relative had a job like this hauling asphalt.

So yes, unemployment numbers will be even worse come winter.

jazz_piano on July 30, 2009 at 12:07 PM

LA Times: “Enjoyabless Claims Up!”

LibTired on July 30, 2009 at 12:08 PM

More proof the recession is over!

jeff_from_mpls on July 30, 2009 at 12:10 PM

The chipmunks are in charge

LimeyGeek on July 30, 2009 at 12:10 PM

Barney to the rescue.

Knucklehead on July 30, 2009 at 12:08 PM

It baffles me that Frank, Dodd, Waters, etc. seem to have escaped the sub-prime mortgage disaster unscathed.

Why can’t the media do their job?

jazz_piano on July 30, 2009 at 12:11 PM

Ed, also the Star Tribune reports that the Cash-for-Clunkers has been great in getting folks into showrooms. They also report the dealers can’t get Uncle Sugar to cough up the money.

Limerick on July 30, 2009 at 12:07 PM

The fact that government agencies have been going in since the start of July and changing the MPG numbers for various models hasn’t helped.

Dealers were allowed to start accepting the clunkers on July 1 but not allowed to get money until about July 22 or so. In that timeframe, a lot of cars had their MPG numbers adjusted so that they may or may not qualify anymore.

teke184 on July 30, 2009 at 12:11 PM

You mean, they didn’t get these numbers from Google searches?

Dr.Cwac.Cwac on July 30, 2009 at 12:11 PM

It’s time to remove them from theirour reality…get out the shovels.

izoneguy on July 30, 2009 at 11:56 AM

Better this way….It’s a “shovel ready” job.

Fighton03 on July 30, 2009 at 12:11 PM

And the Dow is up 150 points.

Mark1971 on July 30, 2009 at 11:47 AM

While Obama tanks. You do the math.

LibTired on July 30, 2009 at 12:11 PM

Hmmm . . . ‘honest’ and ‘integrity’ aren’t the first two words that come to mind when I think of the President.

jazz_piano on July 30, 2009 at 11:47 AM

I am one that does NOT see his shinning intelligence.

jsunrise on July 30, 2009 at 12:11 PM

Green shooooots.

the_nile on July 30, 2009 at 12:14 PM

Maybe I’ll open my own bakery and start making some cupcakes. I understand that there’s going to be a market for that in the next few years.

Sir Corky on July 30, 2009 at 12:14 PM

I am one that does NOT see his shinning intelligence.

jsunrise on July 30, 2009 at 12:11 PM

Intelligence (of the ‘book smarts’ variety) is disastrously overrated. And this is coming from an academic.

In a leader, I’ll take common sense and wisdom over intelligence any day.

jazz_piano on July 30, 2009 at 12:16 PM

teke184 on July 30, 2009 at 12:11 PM

Of the 1,500 trade-ins in Minnesota not a single rebate has been approved.

Limerick on July 30, 2009 at 12:17 PM

This is what liberals refer to as “trickle-up economics”.

And it is working as intended.

logis on July 30, 2009 at 12:19 PM

The June lull in new filings was just seasonality.

Or, per the new coin-phrase, “Funemployment”.

Wait until the school year kicks in. I’m afraid it will rise like the Kraken.

connertown on July 30, 2009 at 12:20 PM

Maybe I’ll open my own bakery and start making some cupcakes start selling pencils on street corners. I understand that there’s going to be a market for that in the next few years.

Sir Corky on July 30, 2009 at 12:14 PM

2,000,000 new jobs created!

ChrisB on July 30, 2009 at 12:20 PM

Of the 1,500 trade-ins in Minnesota not a single rebate has been approved.

Limerick on July 30, 2009 at 12:17 PM

So…the Happy Face News on CBS this morning is all crap? How could that be?!

Jaibones on July 30, 2009 at 12:20 PM

Cupcakes are the new yuppie obsession last year. Every freakin’ place in yuppie-LA had a cupcake shop. Hey, Obama’s like that cupcake fad.

Apologetic California on July 30, 2009 at 12:22 PM

cnbc.com has this story headlined as: “Jobless Claims Showing Unemployment Trending Down.” pure propaganda.

james23 on July 30, 2009 at 12:22 PM

We’re self-employed in this household. My business is down about 33%, and my wife’s about 50%, down enough to where we can’t pay our quarterly taxes. Can we fire ourselves, joining the ranks of the funemployed, and collect unemployment?

ornery_independent on July 30, 2009 at 12:22 PM

These unemployment numbers are very, very bad, indeed. This is the happy-face summertime. If the third quarter ends the way it’s trending, winter will hit our economy sort of the way an Amtrak train hits a Chevy Volt on the tracks.

Jaibones on July 30, 2009 at 12:22 PM

Intelligence (of the ‘book smarts’ variety) is disastrously overrated. And this is coming from an academic.

jazz_piano on July 30, 2009 at 12:16 PM

teke184 on July 30, 2009 at 12:11 PM

And given his demonstrated knowledge of history, geography, and math, he doesn’t even have that.

Fighton03 on July 30, 2009 at 12:23 PM

Jaibones on July 30, 2009 at 12:20 PM

From the Star-Tribune this morning:

“We had dealers representing 1,500 to 2,000 transactions,” he said. “We asked how many had a deal approved yet, and not one hand went up.”

Limerick on July 30, 2009 at 12:24 PM

In a leader, I’ll take common sense and wisdom over intelligence any day.

jazz_piano on July 30, 2009 at 12:16 PM

+1

Palin/Cheney 2012!

ornery_independent on July 30, 2009 at 12:24 PM

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