Barney Frank: Yes, a public plan will lead to a government takeover of health care
posted at 7:52 pm on July 30, 2009 by Allahpundit
I’m not overly worried. The GOP’s closing the gap on the generic ballot and seeing a surge in strong recruits for congressional challenges, which means the current Congress is probably as blue as it’ll be for awhile. If they don’t have the votes to make us choke on single-payer now, they likely never will. Even so, that’s what the liberal wing is planning, as our friend who helped ruin the subprime industry is candid enough to admit here. No wonder the House wants to backload the costs of ObamaCare. That’s obviously designed to give the left a chance to say “it’s working!” during the first five years while expenses are low and use the momentum to push for expansion.
And what if the final bill ends up dropping a public insurance option altogether? Don’t celebrate just yet:
If Obamacare is enacted without a new surtax, its immense costs will lead to tax increases soon enough. If it is enacted without a public plan, the federal government will nonetheless be paying a bigger and bigger share of a larger and larger number of people’s health-insurance bills. What we have here, in other words, are amendments that change the speed rather than the direction of the legislation.
And it is premature to celebrate even a modest victory. The public option may yet resurface in a new guise. Senate majority leader Harry Reid, in his usual bumbling way, has previewed the subterfuge: “We’re going to have some type of public option, call it ‘co-op,’ call it what you want.” Changing the name on the government-run option will not make it any less government-run. Conservative arguments have made great headway in making the Democrats defensive about a public plan. But removing a single objectionable feature from Obamacare does not make the overall package any less intrusive or ineffective. It’s still a pig, even if the Democrats have started taking out their lipstick.
The co-ops are just a trojan horse towards Frank’s end. Make sure everyone knows it.
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These aren’t your parent’s pinkos Red Scare Meh
Dr Evil on July 30, 2009 at 7:53 PM
Barney Frank is human waste.
PBoilermaker on July 30, 2009 at 7:53 PM
I’ve said a thousand times: The face of (D) 2010, if the (R)s have brains.
Marcus on July 30, 2009 at 7:55 PM
I don’t want to be anywhere near Frank’s end, thankyewverymuch.
Mr. Bali Hai on July 30, 2009 at 7:56 PM
Even faking it like most Ds would be welcome.
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jmarcure on July 30, 2009 at 7:57 PM
Off topic, but does anybody know if this guy has any front teeth?
Rhinoboy on July 30, 2009 at 7:58 PM
When Obama says his Health Care “Reform” doesn’t interfere with your current plan, he’s flat out lying. Single payer is the goal of every statist in Washington. My April 15 Tea Party sign read,
One if by land
Two if by sea
Three if by Congress!
Christian Conservative on July 30, 2009 at 8:00 PM
does bawney have any teeth?
SHARPTOOTH on July 30, 2009 at 8:01 PM
The whole of government run healthcare is a fraud. Maybe we can recycle the federal government through the cash for clunkers program.
Maybe we should wish for a program as well run as cash for clunkers. They suspended the latest cluster you know what tonight because it was becoming an unwieldy bureaucratic nightmare.
Don’t worry, your government run healthcare will be fine.
tarpon on July 30, 2009 at 8:01 PM
ugh, like I want to look inside Barney Franks nose.
ctmom on July 30, 2009 at 8:01 PM
Pwobabwy not.
He’s a gummer.
fogw on July 30, 2009 at 8:02 PM
Hard to believe these people are running (ruining) our country. It’s no wonder American faith in our government is at an all time low.
Nancy Pelosi
Barny Frank
Chris Dodd
Jack Murtha
John Kerry (who served in Viet Nam)
Barbara Boxer
Diane Feinstein
Harry Reid
I could add dozens more to this list, but I don’t want to ruin the delicious salmon my lovely wife is preparing for supper.
Keemo on July 30, 2009 at 8:02 PM
It would be a lot easier to let others know this, as your post, if your site had a method to E-MAIL this article instead of only using Facebook. I don’t HAVE a Facebook account and don’t want one. No one I know has one. Add the E-MAIL option back please, or my forwarding of videos, etc has ended here.
bradley11 on July 30, 2009 at 8:03 PM
No way… He was a career thumb sucker before he graduated to bigger things.
Keemo on July 30, 2009 at 8:04 PM
Any Trojan horse getting near Frank’s rear end is going to have to stand in line.
bradley11 on July 30, 2009 at 8:05 PM
What a pig. (Sorry to all pigs.)
stenwin77 on July 30, 2009 at 8:05 PM
Ask liberal343 aka nice343 if catch my drift.
DeathB4Tyranny on July 30, 2009 at 8:08 PM
Thufferin’ Thuccotash! She thells theshellth by the theshore.
Bishop on July 30, 2009 at 8:11 PM
PLEASE CUT THIS TO 30 SECS AND RUN ON EVERY TV STATION BETWEEN NOW AND 2010.
reliapundit on July 30, 2009 at 8:15 PM
Oddly and unfortunately, it’s not OT: His ‘predilection’ only makes his arrogance and blind radical ideology more infuriating and potentially harmful. This POS is in a position to seriously damage the economy of this country, and the Elmer Fudd accent only makes everything worse
Janos Hunyadi on July 30, 2009 at 8:15 PM
As predicted.
drjohn on July 30, 2009 at 8:16 PM
They are already suspending CASH FOR CLUNKERS legislation. They can’t run anything, and I surely don’t want them running my health care!
SouthernGent on July 30, 2009 at 8:16 PM
hey, are you Ok? you didnt just drop the laptop in the tub or something?
Greed on July 30, 2009 at 8:20 PM
SouthernGent on July 30, 2009 at 8:16 PM
That just sucks so bad! I was waiting on my husband to get home tomorrow to go look at one.
TXMomof3 on July 30, 2009 at 8:20 PM
If I don’t see at least 20 commercials with a clip of this video, then the GOP does not deserve to win this battle.
angryed on July 30, 2009 at 8:21 PM
Frank is the only high ranking democrat that has been metaphorically compared to the battery in a baseball game lineup.
Americannodash on July 30, 2009 at 8:24 PM
Well, they started the program before the rules were finalized, and there were changes made to the mileage ratings on certain vehicles. Some dealers are now stuck with vouchers they cannot collect on due to these changes.
ICBM on July 30, 2009 at 8:26 PM
Seriously, I honestly cannot picture a district in America filled with the kind of human excrement that is required to send this disgusting queen back to Congress again and again.
Oh wait. I forgot about Pelosi’s district. And Maxine Waters’……….and John Murtha’s……….and Chuck Schumer’s……and Claire McCaskill’s………and………etc…
David2.0 on July 30, 2009 at 8:28 PM
Beck says there is no mask. They are telling us what they are going to do…
d1carter on July 30, 2009 at 8:30 PM
So Bawney wants to “back door” single payer. Who wouda thunk?
farright on July 30, 2009 at 8:30 PM
Good lord that man is just… slimey. Albeit, he certainly loves to hear himself talk so he spills the beans from time to time because of it.
Barney Frank also sounds like he has a throat full of tapioca pudding when he talks. I dunno, maybe he was just coming back from lunch.
Oh. Wait. Ewwwwwww
SilverStar830 on July 30, 2009 at 8:31 PM
He might as well say “We’re looking for the best way to destroy America.”
It’s frustrating to watch this. It’s not funny anymore.
Mojave Mark on July 30, 2009 at 8:31 PM
Baweny Fwank is the gift that just keeps giving.
So who’s the liar, Fwank, or the OKenyan-In-Chief???
byteshredder on July 30, 2009 at 8:32 PM
Wait. Who are you and what have you done with Allahpundit?!
KSgop on July 30, 2009 at 8:33 PM
Clearly, the innuendos abound.
Count to 10 on July 30, 2009 at 8:34 PM
But but but Obama says he wants competition! Obama wouldn’t lie!
karlant on July 30, 2009 at 8:37 PM
Here’s a great by-product of government run healthcare.
Agents conduct medical fraud raids across Houston
From the article:
Doing the job Americans won’t do.
atxcowgirl on July 30, 2009 at 8:38 PM
Every browser(Internet Exploder, FireFox, Opera,…) has a way to email a link to the web page you are on, to all your friends. Try clicking on File and see what options are available.
belad on July 30, 2009 at 8:43 PM
Cut pay to doctors?
Check
Restrict their ability to order tests and restrict their ability to protect themselves?
Check
No tort reform?
Check.
Gifts to trial lawyers?
Check.
Democrats SUCK
Lobbyist: Sneak trial-lawyer tax break through Congress
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/blogs/beltway-confidential/Lobbyist-Sneak-trial-lawyer-tax-break-through-Congress-52100467.html
drjohn on July 30, 2009 at 8:44 PM
Why isn’t this guy in jail?
lorien1973 on July 30, 2009 at 8:44 PM
Dude! don’t ruin Keemo’s salmon!
Chaz706 on July 30, 2009 at 8:44 PM
Never going to happen, in case you haven’t noticed yet, the MFMSM (Mother E’ffing Mainstream Media) is fully populated by treasonous commie ba$tards who are every bit as much involved as the treasonous basterds in congress pushing it.
doriangrey on July 30, 2009 at 8:46 PM
It’s so hard to decide who I hate more on the Lefty side.
Bwaney?
Waxman?
Nancy?
Reid?
Maxine?
The list just goes on and on and on….
guntotinglibertarian on July 30, 2009 at 8:46 PM
Well, no sh*t, Sherlock.
(Not you, AP, Slobbering Bawney)
Dave R. on July 30, 2009 at 8:48 PM
We(Genuine patriotic American Citizens) sooo need to reclaim the house and senate and start our own version of McCarthy s Anti-American Activities Hearings.
doriangrey on July 30, 2009 at 8:53 PM
Rep. Frank just pulled a Biden. If Frank is so concerned about helping people, then why doesn’t he quit and commit himself to charity work, instead of committing me to charity work, whether I like it or not.
DFCtomm on July 30, 2009 at 8:54 PM
I cannot click. Is this not the single most repulsive member of Congress? It’s a tight competition, I know, but based on simple longevity, Barney Frank takes the cake.
DrMagnolias on July 30, 2009 at 8:55 PM
Oh, Hot Air. You’re just opposed to competition and capitalism.
MadisonConservative on July 30, 2009 at 8:55 PM
I assumed he lost them to somebody tired of his insufferable sh*t. You guys’ theory makes much more sense.
Rhinoboy on July 30, 2009 at 9:02 PM
Nice idea, but a Republican Party led by the likes of Michael Steele won’t stand for it unless it polls favorably in their favor.
The Republican Party, led by the likes of Lindsay Graham and John McCain, will do nothing to offend the urban intellectuals.
Joe Pyne on July 30, 2009 at 9:05 PM
I wonder if government run health care will turn out to be like this.
What a clusterfark government run health care will be. If they can’t get this program right just think doctors telling patients we can’t see you anymore because we ran out of money to fast. It’s going to take to long for the government to pay us so your SOL. I hope this fails.
Brat4life on July 30, 2009 at 9:05 PM
By now, I’m now soooo disgusted with the GOP. I expect them to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory by passing a foot-in-the-door healthcare “compromise” bill.
Republicans: Cruising toward America’s destruction at 2/3 throttle.
ROCnPhilly on July 30, 2009 at 9:08 PM
They’ve been trying since Truman to do this. They’re never going to stop. Whatever else it does, and whether it was ever even intended to address its stated aims in health care, it fundamentally changes the relationship of the citizenry to their government. It’s the biggest boost clientelism and nanny-statism will ever get. They won’t rest until they have it.
DrSteve on July 30, 2009 at 9:17 PM
ROCnPhilly on July 30, 2009 at 9:08 PM
The house cleaning in DC needs to include all politicians from both parties, based upon their voting records and accomplishments. Simple criteria such as:
1> What has this elected official done for the people of this country? What are the accomplishments?
2> Has he/she voted along the lines of what their constituents wanted?
3> Has he/she represented their party with their votes, or did they represent their constituents?
These three simple questions would likely rid us of 90% of the politicians currently serving their party and party donors, rather than serving the people.
Keemo on July 30, 2009 at 9:18 PM
Bull$hit, they are in it every bit as deeply as the Dems, it’s a good cop bad cop routine, it isnt 2/3 throttle it’s full throttle with a nitrous kicker…
doriangrey on July 30, 2009 at 9:21 PM
Perhaps Bill Mahar has a point.
Syd B. on July 30, 2009 at 9:23 PM
How would you like to be in the hospital in the same room with this scumbag for a few days????
thmcbb on July 30, 2009 at 9:27 PM
We’re one step closer to the abyss.
This just in via FOXNews: House Blue Dogs cave.
ROCnPhilly on July 30, 2009 at 9:37 PM
What an ass. I can not stand Frank. Is there any hope that he will ever be defeated?
Terrye on July 30, 2009 at 9:41 PM
ROC:
Is this what you are talking about?
That is from Fox’s site this evening.
The thing is they are fracturing. So to get the blue dogs, they lose the liberals.
Meanwhile the Senate seems deadlocked as well. There were rumors that there might be a deal in the Senate, but even that fell apart.
I think Obama will sign something eventually, but I don’t think it will be what he was hoping for. Time will tell.
Terrye on July 30, 2009 at 9:47 PM
After all the clips of this guy saying ridiculous things, are you people still sure?
I mean really. . . are you absolutely 100% sure. . .
that this guy couldn’t make a horribly wrong and poor decision about his own sexual preference? Seriously. I think this guy chooses to be gay. I think he makes poor choices all the time, and the gay choice is the most obvious one.
ThackerAgency on July 30, 2009 at 9:48 PM
You ain’t seen nothing yet.
Most of us in this country (including many conservatives) want to still pretend that this is 1975 or whatever and it’s all this boring yet cutesy stuff about donkeys vs. elephants.
Imagine instead a boot stamping on a human face forever.
The freedom and liberty stuff was nice while it lasted.
Those who know what’s better for us and ready to mete out the punishment to those of us in the Outer Party (because we weren’t as downtrodden as the poor proles, yet not as sneaky and ruthless as the Inner Party membership) are winning. See ya in the sheep pens!
Dr. ZhivBlago on July 30, 2009 at 9:51 PM
Notice the calm parroting of liberal cliches, “you guys want to do nothing…”
I still don’t understand how this man got away scot-free from the financial meltdown.
Richard Romano on July 30, 2009 at 9:53 PM
Well, yeah. The GOP likes playing “Good Cop”:
“I like your idea. Let’s set the house on fire, but let’s do it with only two gallons of accelerant”.
It’s why they don’t understand the Tea Parties.
ROCnPhilly on July 30, 2009 at 9:55 PM
Are we allowed to use the EFF-AY-GEE word here for this piece of human filth?
infidel4life on July 30, 2009 at 9:55 PM
Barney Frank’s mouth disgusts me. Not only in what he says, but thinking about where it’s been.
suzyk on July 30, 2009 at 9:55 PM
Does it really matter? With SS and medicare we’re $99 trillion in the hole, and Obama is doing his best (deliberately) to make it worse. I know, I know, all past presidents didn’t deal with SS and medicare… but you’ll recall Bush tried hard to take on SS but was shot down, and for a number of years the unprecedented growth the tax cuts brought were slicing the deficit.
Again, it’s not that Obama’s policies aren’t working. They’re working exactly as he intended. He wasn’t lying when he talked about redistributing wealth. He wasn’t lying when he said that he was going to “fundamentally transform” the country. He wasn’t lying when he said ACORN and friends would shape his administration. Except for possible roadblocks on Obamacare and Cap and Tax, everything is going exactly according to plan, so far.
Oh, and as for his tanking poll numbers? Don’t worry about that. That’s why he’s saved 90% of the “stimulus” money. He’s going to dump it out in time to create a phony recovery in time for reelection.
RightWinged on July 30, 2009 at 9:55 PM
Is it just me or does this guy sound like he,s got a mouth full of mush ever time he talks.
thmcbb on July 30, 2009 at 9:58 PM
No.
I saw a blurb running beneath Hannity’s show, but was on the phone and got “squirreled”. Hoped someone else saw it. Hopefully, I’m totally wrong…
ROCnPhilly on July 30, 2009 at 10:04 PM
Heck, I’m down to one question: “Do you currently serve in a state or federal office?”
ROCnPhilly on July 30, 2009 at 10:08 PM
Jesus…Barney Frank…
Prepare to Snorkel!!!!
BigWyo on July 30, 2009 at 10:22 PM
One of my prouder claims to fame is that I grew up in the wooly wooly west and never have been in a catfight in my life. Right now I want to change that. I would cash in all the “found dryer money” i have saved over the years and book a ticket to bitch slap this little weasle.
proudteadrinker on July 30, 2009 at 10:25 PM
Apparently, you haven’t been a young, male, impressionable, Congressional aide that has caught his eye………….
……….. or else you would be.
Seven Percent Solution on July 30, 2009 at 10:27 PM
UNHINGED – It’s so so so great to be us right now.
marklmail on July 30, 2009 at 10:29 PM
I have been saving my “found dryer money” for something fun to spend it on. I think I have found it. If I could I would fly to Washington and knock this Nancy’s teeth out.
Oops….teeth are gone. Ok I would box his ears.\
I may be little but I could take a play from the dem handbook and play dirty. I would just hit him when his “back is turned”
proudteadrinker on July 30, 2009 at 10:36 PM
ok first one didn’t show/ I thought maybe i got banned. Wrote a second trying to be nicer. Now I have two not so nice posts out here……
sorry
proudteadrinker on July 30, 2009 at 10:37 PM
OK. Maybe that was it. Thanks.
C-Span2 has the bill markup session live right now and it looks ugly.
Besides, it’s only Thursday. I really shouldn’t start looking for the double-secret-nothing-to-see-here bill passage ’til tomorrow night.
ROCnPhilly on July 30, 2009 at 10:46 PM
RightWinged:
Look at this way, in 25 years most of the baby boomers will dead and gone the numbers will look better. Sad but true.
Terrye on July 30, 2009 at 10:49 PM
No. It looks to me as if he doesn’t have any teeth. As a denture wearer, I’d say he is teefluss. All the better for him when he is servic…never mind.
mrpeabody on July 30, 2009 at 10:59 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZ-6ebku3_E
Obama says the same thing. If they get any public option, they will push for one payer.
njpat on July 31, 2009 at 12:08 AM
The majority of Americans want single payer. The majority of doctors want single payer. This is more clear evidence that democracy is not functioning in the US. The corporations buy what they want from the government, which happily sells it to them, and sells the people out.
greggish on July 31, 2009 at 12:14 AM
Loves it when the banking queen is flapping like a canary.
another drone that should have been booted out-
hawkman on July 31, 2009 at 12:17 AM
Barney the Big Purple Putz. What a dick.
RandyChandler on July 31, 2009 at 7:37 AM
That video reminds me of the Blair Witch thing.
JellyToast on July 31, 2009 at 8:04 AM
How in God’s good name did this guy get elected? I don’t think I have seen many politicians lie like this guy.
sd78 on July 31, 2009 at 8:33 AM
I gotta say, I actually started to feel a little sorry for the guy in this video (I know, I know I shouldn’t). Dude can’t go 2 steps without someone literally in his face wanting something.
NickelAndDime on July 31, 2009 at 9:00 AM
Too early in the morning to watch a Frankenclip. ugh.
scalleywag on July 31, 2009 at 9:18 AM
He’s disgusting
robman27 on July 31, 2009 at 9:51 AM
What a Maroon.
CynicalOptimist on July 31, 2009 at 10:22 AM
Two things: Blow your nose next time and get an industral strength nosehair clipper.
CynicalOptimist on July 31, 2009 at 10:26 AM
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