Quotes of the day

posted at 10:30 pm on July 29, 2009 by Allahpundit

“What’s most amazing about this episode is that what Beck said isn’t a fireable or even a SUSPENDABLE offense by his bosses. There was a time when outrageous rants like this would actually cost the ranters their jobs. But not anymore; if anything, it’s now encouraged. And all of this could turn ACTUAL journalists into the next Howard Beales. It’s getting nuts that the folks who are creating the perception of an ideological/polarized media world are people who have never really spent their lives being journalists… Of course, Beck’s crazy language could have one unintended consequence: It could cost him bookings with any Republicans who want to be popular outside Beck’s hard-core bizarro-land viewers.”

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Well, it is their house and we are but mere guests…

ladyingray on July 30, 2009 at 12:37 AM

…thus the confessional… ;)

Upstater85 on July 30, 2009 at 12:39 AM

Well, your choice.

Upstater85 on July 30, 2009 at 12:33 AM

It’s Ed’s bad side, so it’s Ed’s choice.

I’d like to find out the circumstances of MB4′s ban first, though, but so far I haven’t had any luck. This is the first time that there’s been a ban that I’ve been unable to find the relevant thread. That makes me wonder….

FloatingRock on July 30, 2009 at 12:39 AM

stacy on July 30, 2009 at 12:37 AM

Huh? Take a breath and clarify please?

ladyingray on July 30, 2009 at 12:39 AM

I’d like to find out the circumstances of MB4’s ban first, though, but so far I haven’t had any luck. This is the first time that there’s been a ban that I’ve been unable to find the relevant thread. That makes me wonder….

FloatingRock on July 30, 2009 at 12:39 AM

…well, we are assuming that he was actually banned.

Upstater85 on July 30, 2009 at 12:40 AM

…And what ever happened to Entelechy? Did she cross paths with Ed as well?

FloatingRock on July 30, 2009 at 12:40 AM

…thus the confessional… ;)

Upstater85 on July 30, 2009 at 12:39 AM

Exactly…;)

ladyingray on July 30, 2009 at 12:41 AM

Exactly…;)

ladyingray on July 30, 2009 at 12:41 AM

I feel so smug, so in, so kewl.

Upstater85 on July 30, 2009 at 12:42 AM

OK, I’m out. Bedtime…

Night, Lady.

Upstater85 on July 30, 2009 at 12:43 AM

FloatingRock on July 30, 2009 at 12:40 AM

While I don’t think she bumped any HA heads the first part of your question is the million dollar question. She just went poof. Her insight, as a former Iron Curtain immigrant, was great. She wrapped herself in her new flag and never quit fighting for it.

Where are you Miss ‘E’? Poor sods want to know.

Limerick on July 30, 2009 at 12:43 AM

…well, we are assuming that he was actually banned.

Upstater85 on July 30, 2009 at 12:40 AM

Tav isn’t a frequent commenter here, but I believe he’s reputable. And MB4 has never been absent so long before in the past few years.

It’s seems fairly definite that Ed has banned MB4 because of Michael Jackson, as fantastically absurd as that sounds.

FloatingRock on July 30, 2009 at 12:44 AM

ladyingray on July 30, 2009 at 12:39 AM

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stacy on July 30, 2009 at 12:44 AM

Please, please PLEASE, click on this link, there is no way to describe it, but it is VERY important that as many people as possible become aware of it.

http://theobamaforum.com/

stacy on July 30, 2009 at 12:30 AM
Or you could try to describe it…

Upstater85 on July 30, 2009 at 12:31 AM

That reminds me of this:

http://www.theonion.com/content/video/obama_win_causes_obsessive

guntotinglibertarian on July 30, 2009 at 12:45 AM

I feel so smug, so in, so kewl.

Upstater85 on July 30, 2009 at 12:42 AM

Dude, you are kewl…

OK, I’m out. Bedtime…

Night, Lady.

Upstater85 on July 30, 2009 at 12:43 AM

Night.

ladyingray on July 30, 2009 at 12:45 AM

“White man’s greed runs a world in need”
“She is a typical white person. If she sees somebody on the street that she doesn’t know, there’s a reaction in her that doesn’t go away and it comes out in the wrong way.”
“I don’t know all the facts, but the Cambridge police acted stupidly”
Michelle joins the act:
“for the first time in my adult life, I’m proud of my country”
“America is just downright mean”
“Sometimes it’s easier to hold on to your own stereotypes and misconceptions. It makes you feel justified in your ignorance. That’s America.”
His pastor and “spiritual mentor” for 20 years:
“US of KKKA”
“The government lied about inventing the HIV virus to use against people of color”
His Attorney General:
“We are a nation of cowards”
His Supreme Court nominee:
“a wise Latina woman with the richness of her experiences would more often than not reach a better conclusion than a white male who hasn’t lived that life.”
Obama’s chickenssssssssssss…comin’ home to roost.

jgapinoy on July 30, 2009 at 12:47 AM

Where are you Miss ‘E’? Poor sods want to know.

Limerick on July 30, 2009 at 12:43 AM

Everybody loved Ent!

If you’re out there, Entelechy, and assuming Ed didn’t ban you, how are things going? We miss you.

Does anybody know if she’s commentating somewhere else, preferably wherever MB4 is?

FloatingRock on July 30, 2009 at 12:48 AM

Hope this helps to explain a little

stacy on July 30, 2009 at 12:44 AM

Um…no, but thanks for the effort…

…I think…

ladyingray on July 30, 2009 at 12:50 AM

Everybody loved Ent!

If you’re out there, Entelechy, and assuming Ed didn’t ban you, how are things going? We miss you.

Does anybody know if she’s commentating somewhere else, preferably wherever MB4 is?

FloatingRock on July 30, 2009 at 12:48 AM

I do not know Entelechy…

ladyingray on July 30, 2009 at 12:52 AM

Night folks. In the spirit of racial equality I’m off to watch some white judge try to hang Clint Eastwood.

Limerick on July 30, 2009 at 12:53 AM

My mistake the friends and supporters is near the bottom…they are support groups of these very high visible groups, which, I guess, may or may not mean much. Suppose it depends on whether these groups support their support groups or something

stacy on July 30, 2009 at 12:55 AM

In my defense I did say it wasn’t easy to explain and that was kinda why I hoped people would at least go to the link. : )

stacy on July 30, 2009 at 12:57 AM

Now you guy’s made me ask it. What happened to MB4?

FontanaConservative on July 30, 2009 at 12:58 AM

I do not know Entelechy…

ladyingray on July 30, 2009 at 12:52 AM

She hasn’t been around for months, but she was one of the most prolific commentators here since the early days of HotAir. She’s an immigrant/refugee, (I think), from Eastern Europe and had personal experience with Marxism. I never learned where she was from, specifically, and she disappeared a few months following Ed’s arrival here at HotAir.

If Ed Banned Entelechy, I am so gone from here! I would consider it an honor to be banned along side Ent. I only wish I knew if she were commenting somewhere else, but this is the only political blog I frequent.

FloatingRock on July 30, 2009 at 12:58 AM

lady… I simply copied and pasted the top part of the site, so it does seem to lose a little in that type of translation

stacy on July 30, 2009 at 12:59 AM

Remember all the times the same libtards complained when Keith Olbermann called the last President racist and worse?

Speedwagon82 on July 30, 2009 at 1:01 AM

Now you guy’s made me ask it. What happened to MB4?

FontanaConservative on July 30, 2009 at 12:58 AM

Get this!

As near as I can tell, Ed banned MB4 because of a disagreement about the proliferation of Micheal Jackson threads!!!

I wish I knew the specifics, (maybe it’s not as ridiculous as it sounds), but I’ve been unable to find the thread, which is itself unusual. I’ve been here over two years and I’ve always found out, usually after the fact, the circumstances of a ban.

I just don’t get it.

FloatingRock on July 30, 2009 at 1:02 AM

Who cares who banned who and why?

Let’s just be grateful Michelle and Ed and Allah put up the best political blog site on line.

And maybe y’all should at least make a habit of clicking on the ads that pay for all this happiness.

guntotinglibertarian on July 30, 2009 at 1:04 AM

FloatingRock on July 30, 2009 at 1:02 AM

This is why we need, “The Ban Wall”. A web page with the list of people banned with the comments they made and the thread it was in. That way we can keep track.

FontanaConservative on July 30, 2009 at 1:05 AM

I looked around this site earlier via a link someone at Michelle Malkins site provided, but now it seems as if someone has scrubbed all of the comments

stacy on July 30, 2009 at 1:05 AM

guntotinglibertarian on July 30, 2009 at 1:04 AM

It’s concerning because MB4 was no troll. I’m mean, I know no one is safe. But we just want to know what happened.

FontanaConservative on July 30, 2009 at 1:07 AM

It’s concerning because MB4 was no troll. I’m mean, I know no one is safe. But we just want to know what happened.

FontanaConservative on July 30, 2009 at 1:07 AM

It is what it is. They pay for the bandwidth. We are merely guests. Sometimes I’m surprised I haven’t been banned. Maybe MB4 just kicked the addiction, which, in my opinion, is every bit as strong as porn or pot.

guntotinglibertarian on July 30, 2009 at 1:10 AM

FontanaConservative on July 30, 2009 at 1:07 AM

This is the last time anybody ever heard from him.

TMK on July 30, 2009 at 1:11 AM

This is the last time anybody ever heard from him.

TMK on July 30, 2009 at 1:11 AM

Maybe Ed was doing him a favor. I know my employees are getting a little impatient of coming to me with questions and having me say, “Uh, um, hang on a second…”.

guntotinglibertarian on July 30, 2009 at 1:14 AM

This is the last time anybody ever heard from him.

TMK on July 30, 2009 at 1:11 AM

No, it isn’t. I don’t think he was banned, probably just found a place less hostile to investigating Obama’s entombed records.

TMK on July 30, 2009 at 1:16 AM

guntotinglibertarian on July 30, 2009 at 1:10 AM

I know, and I am grateful a blog like this exists. Sometimes I think I might get banned for hijacking threads, (Which I did worry about until floatingrock calmed me down).

TMK on July 30, 2009 at 1:11 AM

That’s mysterious. I didn’t see a comment from Ed, saying “MB4 your banned”.

FontanaConservative on July 30, 2009 at 1:18 AM

No, it isn’t. I don’t think he was banned, probably just found a place less hostile to investigating Obama’s entombed records.

TMK on July 30, 2009 at 1:16 AM

To be fair, it wouldn’t do HA’s reputation a lot of good to be known as a hotbed of birtherism.

I’ve got my doubts on the birther issue, but I understand why HA wouldn’t care to be in the center of that particular storm.

guntotinglibertarian on July 30, 2009 at 1:19 AM

This is the last time anybody ever heard from him.

TMK on July 30, 2009 at 1:11 AM

Maybe he just got tired of the site. There are other good conservative blogs.

Kjeil on July 30, 2009 at 1:20 AM

I get a blank white page when I click on the second link. Anyone know where else I might be able to hear Beck?

Lady Texan on July 30, 2009 at 1:21 AM

TMK on July 30, 2009 at 1:16 AM

Hmmmm, I think your right. MB4 probably was not banned. Just spending time on another sight. But I’ll bring up what floatingrock said and ask “Where’s Entelchy”

FontanaConservative on July 30, 2009 at 1:23 AM

guntotinglibertarian on July 30, 2009 at 1:04 AM

What makes you think that AP and Michelle have anything to do with this ban? I doubt that very much.

I admit that I haven’t yet been able to discover the specific context of MB4′s ban, but he’s long been one of my favorite commentators here and I’ve been here over two years, (which makes me an old timer, even if that means little), and MB4 was here before I was, as I recall. And both of us for years before you, Guntootinglibertarian.

And to me, the prospect that Ed banned MB4, (who was a member years before Ed himself), due to a disagreement about the frequency of Michael Jackson threads is appalling to me. If you don’t care that a valued member was banned over such an, apparently, trivial offense, then I’m sure you’ll be happy once I’ve been banned in the next few days, possibly, as I try to figure out what happened to MB4.

FloatingRock on July 30, 2009 at 1:25 AM

Maybe he just got tired of the site. There are other good conservative blogs.

Kjeil on July 30, 2009 at 1:20 AM

Yeah, that’s what I’m thinking. You hafta be a pretty foul troll to get banned around here, and MB4 was no troll. Like I said, he was more serious than most, and prolly wanted meatier topics of a sort not written by squishy-squank-squonks like AP and Ed.

TMK on July 30, 2009 at 1:26 AM

This is why we need, “The Ban Wall”. A web page with the list of people banned with the comments they made and the thread it was in. That way we can keep track.

FontanaConservative on July 30, 2009 at 1:05 AM

+1

No more mysterious disappearances in the middle of the night.

FloatingRock on July 30, 2009 at 1:28 AM

I looked around this site earlier via a link someone at Michelle Malkins site provided, but now it seems as if someone has scrubbed all of the comments

stacy on July 30, 2009 at 1:05 AM

About MB4?

FloatingRock on July 30, 2009 at 1:29 AM

It is what it is. They pay for the bandwidth. We are merely guests.

guntotinglibertarian on July 30, 2009 at 1:10 AM

Yeah, well I can be a guest somewhere else…. wherever MB4 and Entelechy are also welcome.

FloatingRock on July 30, 2009 at 1:30 AM

I’ve got my doubts on the birther issue, but I understand why HA wouldn’t care to be in the center of that particular storm.

guntotinglibertarian on July 30, 2009 at 1:19 AM

Fooey! AP has a little pink Post-It! stuck to his dusty, fingerprint-smudged monitor the reads:

“It’s Good, But Will It Start a ****-Storm?”

TMK on July 30, 2009 at 1:31 AM

lady texan: you have a relatively fast connection?

VibrioCocci on July 30, 2009 at 1:32 AM

FloatingRock on July 30, 2009 at 1:28 AM

Also a good teaching instrument for new people, so they know what NOT to do.

FontanaConservative on July 30, 2009 at 1:33 AM

FloatingRock on July 30, 2009 at 1:30 AM

Here’s Entelechy’s last post:

Bloodsuckers, er, leeches, are indignant.

Entelechy on April 13, 2009 at 12:51 PM

And then she vanishes forever.

TMK on July 30, 2009 at 1:35 AM

TMK on July 30, 2009 at 1:35 AM

Usually Ed or Allah makes it known that the person has been banned (Usually with a comment and a snark).

FontanaConservative on July 30, 2009 at 1:38 AM

lady texan: you have a relatively fast connection?

VibrioCocci on July 30, 2009 at 1:32 AM

Yes, I do. I don’t know why I’m having problems with the link, but I did find the audio on youtube. Should have looked there first, it’s the compost pile of the video world. Everything ends up there.

Lady Texan on July 30, 2009 at 1:39 AM

I think is funny when a white person calls a black man racist like they know what racism is

liberal343 on July 29, 2009 at 10:38 PM

Vast majority of whites don’t know what racism is because they have not experienced it

liberal343 on July 29, 2009 at 10:42 PM

Wow, some of you people (particularly Libs), are so pompous, as if those of us who are Caucasian have never been discriminated against. Let me tell you, we are not in the majority everywhere in this country, and when in the minority, we are treated pretty poorly sometimes.

I live in a very large city in Texas which is on the border of Mexico, and the population is 85% Hispanic. The other 15% is divided amongst all the other ethnicities, maybe, 10 – 12% White.

I have lived here much of my life, but I am a minority here, and at times have had verbal slurs made towards me, as well as other racial slights.

It is difficult to get a job in the public sector if you don’t speak Spanish, tell me what is fair about that. Businesses that are not minority-owned, (by Gov’t standards), are passed up on contracts everyday, simply because they are run by white men, even though they are in the minority here, always have been, and always will be.

But I regress, Whites can’t be discriminated against, because we are the ones who are racist! Well that is a load of c**p, because anyone can be discriminated against, regardless of skin color. As other ethnicities always remind us, “don’t judge someone else’s experience, until you’ve walked in their shoes”.

Susanboo on July 30, 2009 at 1:42 AM

FloatingRock on July 30, 2009 at 1:25 AM


The Golden Rule.

He who pays for bandwith makes the rules.

I have no problem with that.

The alternative is to start my own blog and be, like, the 201-millionthed-most-clicked-on-blogsite.

At least at HA, I get to make my views known to a large audience. And it’s free.

All I have to do is be marginally circumspect and observe the rules of common decency.

guntotinglibertarian on July 30, 2009 at 1:44 AM

AP, In this case I think you are wrong for calling Beck’s statement’s outrageous. And I don’t like inflammatory language as a rule but here I believe you are stuck in a PC mindset. Add up every outrageous thing President Obama has said, his actions over the years, and who he has hung out with in the lens of race relations — and even his wife’s statements and you have to conclude that his actions are not only outrageous — but racist. Just look at his AG, Eric Holder, who dropped the charges against the Black Panthers who intimidated people at the polls. If this was Bush and he let his AG drop charges against the KKK, you would never hear the end to it. Double standard. BO is tolerant of white people but he uses them as needed for his purposes. I believe he has a deep seated contempt of white people in general. IMHO. But the media, the useful idiots they are, are too busy tripping over themselves to show how much they love him.

You might want to show you are fair and civilized, but I don’t think you are correct on this issue. I date a black woman and don’t care about color of pigmentation except that it is another interesting feature of human beings, but Barack Obama has a chip on his shoulder and that chip is a racist streak towards white people. The latest piece of evidence is the Gates affair. But that is just the latest of a long streak.

mbabbitt on July 30, 2009 at 1:49 AM

This is the last time anybody ever heard from him.

TMK on July 30, 2009 at 1:11 AM

So Ed banned MB4 over a misunderstanding?… even calling him a troll?

Ed—HotAir—you need to rectify this injustice. I thought Ed’s Croce thread was very clever, myself, but while MB4 clearly misunderstood the point, he indicated before he was banned that due to technical issues he hadn’t watched the video. His rant was entirely understandable in that context. The thread was intentionally meant to misconstrue its intent.

Give him a break. Reinstate him. Ask him to please come back. He’s most certainly not a troll. Period, end of discussion. He is a valued member.

P.S. Thanks for the link, TMK.

FloatingRock on July 30, 2009 at 1:50 AM

AP, In this case I think you are wrong for calling Beck’s statement’s outrageous.

Every white person knows Beck is right.

But we’ve been so cowed by the PC police we can’t say so.

guntotinglibertarian on July 30, 2009 at 1:50 AM

There’s a moment in every person’s life, where they are forced to face an adamantine truth. It involves the inevitability of encountering shag carpet, and the futility of trying to find a smartphone that truly does everything you want and is supported by your provider.

Has Corey Feldman found his spiritual center? I hope so.

MadisonConservative on July 30, 2009 at 1:51 AM

FloatingRock on July 30, 2009 at 1:29 AM

No, silly me I actually posted a link to the most vile, racist, disgusting site I have ever seen. It has among its friends and supporters groups such as the Anti-defamation League. I was just reading the comments of a post titled OBAMA NATION WATCH ~ Keeping an eye on our enemies (90 Viewing)
Use this forum to report Domestic Terrorists, Traitors, Republicans, Racists, Independent Voters, and others who are a danger to AMERICA. They are discussing reporting on and turning in ANYONE who speaks ill of their Messiah(yes messiah). It is, and should be, VERY disturbing to all freedom loving Americans. But apparently, no one here is interested, so I apologize for trying to discuss racism at its worst. Please go back to whatever y’all were discussing.

BTW heres the link

http://theobamaforum.com/index.php

stacy on July 30, 2009 at 1:54 AM

The thread was intentionally meant to misconstrue its intent.

Stated better: The Croce thread was a deliberate attempt to mislead. It’s obvious to me, (and should be plausible to others), that such an attempt could lead some members, (even valued veterans), with technical problems to certain conclusions, especially considering the context of a proliferation of Michael Jackson threads at the time.

Please reinstate MB4, and try to convince him to return.

FloatingRock on July 30, 2009 at 1:55 AM

Stacy

I looked over that obamaforum, and IMHO it’s so over the top that it HAS to be either a joke, or a setup.

JamesLee on July 30, 2009 at 1:58 AM

No, silly me I actually posted a link to the most vile, racist, disgusting site I have ever seen.

stacy on July 30, 2009 at 1:54 AM

I just took a peek at the site you linked above.
Loved the line at the top of the first page, right below the Blog Title; “No whites allowed”.

And they call this blog hateful? Absolutely amazing.

Susanboo on July 30, 2009 at 2:00 AM

No, it isn’t. I don’t think he was banned, probably just found a place less hostile to investigating Obama’s entombed records.

TMK on July 30, 2009 at 1:16 AM

That was from the prior month.

This is from the thread you linked to earlier:

You know what the real value of these threads is: Troll self-exposure…

Ed Morrissey on July 7, 2009 at 9:15 PM


I can not believe that you just banned MB4.

Joe Bloggs on July 7, 2009 at 9:27 PM

But Ed didn’t specifically state that he’d banned MB4, (I don’t think), so perhaps you are correct.

I need to examine it closer.

FloatingRock on July 30, 2009 at 2:01 AM

Here’s a Google search of HotAir for ‘Entelechy’. She last posted in the Green Room back in April 2009, and someone asked about her in June 2009. That’s it. Nothing since.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&rlz=1T4GGLL_enUS309US310&tbo=1&newwindow=1&tbs=qdr%3Ay%2Csbd%3A1&q=Entelechy+site%3Ahotair.com&btnG=Search&aq=f&oq=&aqi=

…..

So Ed banned MB4 over a misunderstanding?… even calling him a troll?

Ed—HotAir—you need to rectify this injustice. I thought Ed’s Croce thread was very clever, myself, but while MB4 clearly misunderstood the point, he indicated before he was banned that due to technical issues he hadn’t watched the video. His rant was entirely understandable in that context. The thread was intentionally meant to misconstrue its intent.

Give him a break. Reinstate him. Ask him to please come back. He’s most certainly not a troll. Period, end of discussion. He is a valued member.

P.S. Thanks for the link, TMK.

FloatingRock on July 30, 2009 at 1:50 AM

FloatingRock … you should read this ‘other’ post by MB4 before you get that foot past your teeth my friend.

I believe THIS post is the one that got MB4 kicked off the island. I could be wrong, but… yeah. I dunno.

SilverStar830 on July 30, 2009 at 2:02 AM

(Which I did worry about until floatingrock calmed me down).

FontanaConservative on July 30, 2009 at 1:18 AM

It’s beginning to look as though, (perhaps), what I said back then may only apply to AP’s threads.

FloatingRock on July 30, 2009 at 2:04 AM

I believe THIS post is the one that got MB4 kicked off the island. I could be wrong, but… yeah. I dunno.

SilverStar830 on July 30, 2009 at 2:02 AM

I saw that. AP’s skin is thicker than that comment, I’m sure.

FloatingRock on July 30, 2009 at 2:06 AM

James, and yet the anti defamation league has a direct link as well as well as other dot org sites. IMO these people are deadly serious and should not be ignored! They feel that they are due andtheir messiah is come to save them. How long before one of them follows through on someones post turning in a dissenter they work with, go to school with, or live near(they are putting up names descriptions and tag #’s ect.) and someone gets killed? BTW the Tea Parties are apparently classified as “enemy combatants”. What coud go wrong?

stacy on July 30, 2009 at 2:09 AM

Beck makes a compelling argument.

Obama is a Racist.

Kini on July 30, 2009 at 2:09 AM

I am not in position to say whether Obama is a racist or not, but I do know he realizes that the “white man’s greed runs a world in need”. Does the fact that Obama thinks the fate of the world is in the hands of the greedy white man mean he is a racist? Did we ever find out which Jeremiah Wright sermons Obama attended? Perhaps the USofKKK sermon, US government created aids virus to kill black people tirade. Or my favorite, I don’t tell the black man to say God Bless America, no, no, no, I say GD America, GD America. Then of course the whole premise of Black Liberation Theology and beliefs. If I am not mistaken for Wright, and then for 20 years Obama, their God was black, and out to kill the white God. I didn’t even know we had a white God.

chief on July 30, 2009 at 2:11 AM

To be fair, it wouldn’t do HA’s reputation a lot of good to be known as a hotbed of birtherism.

guntotinglibertarian on July 30, 2009 at 1:19 AM

Do you have any evidence that MB4 was a birther? I’ve never associated him with that conspiracy in my mind, although I’m not certain enough to say he’d be immune. As of now, the evidence seems to indicate that if he was banned due to a misunderstanding, (by design), about the Michael Jackson/Croce thread.

FloatingRock on July 30, 2009 at 2:11 AM

FloatingRock on July 30, 2009 at 2:06 AM

Maybe, but every stick has it’s breaking point.

FontanaConservative on July 30, 2009 at 2:12 AM

Here’s Entelechy’s last post:

TMK on July 30, 2009 at 1:35 AM

I hope she’s doing OK. Let’s hope she just kicked her blog addiction and found something better to do.

FloatingRock on July 30, 2009 at 2:16 AM

Okay. Just trying to help out. I miss Entelechy and MB4 also.

I think Entelechy just quit coming by and is not banned. She’d never post anything that would earn her a ban. Hopefully, and I mean I really really hope it is not something of a personal nature beyond her control. She is a lady from a former communist country and is steadfast in her religious convictions. She once commented along the lines of atheist related threads being posted were becoming too prevelant for her tastes. I think the troll’s were becoming too much for her also when she tried to engage in serious and enlightening dialogue. Most likely she just found elsewhere to hang out.

SilverStar830 on July 30, 2009 at 2:17 AM

Everybody loved Ent!

If you’re out there, Entelechy, and assuming Ed didn’t ban you, how are things going? We miss you.

FloatingRock on July 30, 2009 at 12:48 AM

Well she was all we could ever want
She’s the kind everyone likes to flaunt and take to blogs
Well she always kept us in the right place
She’s got style, she’s got grace
She’s a winner, she’s a Lady, whoa whoa whoa, she’s a Lady
Talking about that little lady, and the lady was ours.

PercyB on July 30, 2009 at 2:19 AM

They talk about the recent MoveOn rally in Texas for Obamacare which the Tea Partiers outnumbered them 10 to 1. It seems that they think that a few “executions” at these Tea Parties would restore peace and order, so again..What could go wrong?

stacy on July 30, 2009 at 2:21 AM

PercyB on July 30, 2009 at 2:19 AM

Finish us off PercyB

FontanaConservative on July 30, 2009 at 2:21 AM

Usually Ed or Allah makes it known that the person has been banned (Usually with a comment and a snark).

FontanaConservative on July 30, 2009 at 1:38 AM

Yeah, you may be right, but MB4 isn’t easily dissuaded from his course, either. He wouldn’t just disappear in response to a comment like Ed’s, IMO. And I’ve never seen Ed, AP or Bryan comment about a troll in that fashion without at least a warning or ban, but there’s a first time for everything I suppose.

FloatingRock on July 30, 2009 at 2:22 AM

The Golden Rule.

He who pays for bandwith makes the rules.

I have no problem with that.

guntotinglibertarian on July 30, 2009 at 1:44 AM

Good for you! If you don’t care that Ed intentionally created a misleading post and then, (may have), banned a valued veteran member with technical issues that prevented him from discovering the ruse…have at it. But your stock has just dropped precipitously in my book because you are obviously “easily lead”.

FloatingRock on July 30, 2009 at 2:28 AM

That was from the prior month.

FloatingRock on July 30, 2009 at 2:01 AM

You are correct. I was looking at the day, not the month.

It does indeed look like MB4 got banned…

When Obama Himself refuses to do the easy as pie act of releasing his birth certificate, such a simple and reasonable matter, to establish His constitutional eligibility to be U.S. President, it is only “conspiratorial nonsense” creation on His part. Did you not take an oath to defend the U.S. Constitution?

MB4 on December 8, 2008 at 1:21 PM

TMK on July 30, 2009 at 2:29 AM

I mean with groups like MoveOn, SEIU and ACORN I’m sure they are willing to have open peaceful debate. I have no doubt that they will be tolerant of dissent and opposition of their “Messiah”, you know just like their Democrat leaders in the House and Senate. No doubt they are dilligent about keeping away all of their “fringe” race-baiters and angry down trodden extremists.

stacy on July 30, 2009 at 2:29 AM

Beck is right, so is Reverend James David Manning, RINOs hate that yet Beck isn’t really that far off of what Rush Limbaugh and Mark Levin say.
Allahpundit, so WHAT if you don’t like Beck, most of us come here because this is MICHELLE’S site. We have TREMENDOUS respect for Michelle.
Maybe, one of these days, you will learn that fence sitters get NOTHING but violation by a fence post, I’m not holding my breath for that to happen.
ALLAHPUNDIT, you and your attacks on anyone that isn’t a “so-called moderate” are costing this site viewers.

nelsonknows on July 30, 2009 at 2:30 AM

And if he was banned, does anybody know where else MB4 hangs out?

FloatingRock on July 29, 2009 at 11:56 PM

There is someone who I have seen commenting, off and on, usually goes in waves, at politico lately who bears a strong resemblance to him. A commenter named FeralCat.

KentAllard on July 30, 2009 at 2:33 AM

KentAllard on July 30, 2009 at 2:33 AM

I don’t think so. FeralCat is a bit too jovial, juvenile, and fixated on global warming.

Look for the guy who has his military cred challenged and susequently met, the guy who adds ‘Obama’ to 70′s song lyrics, the guy in a religious thread who posts prayers to Thor in a vain attempt to have a point, or the guy who posts a thousand Mark Twain & T. Jefferson quotes in one topic.

TMK on July 30, 2009 at 2:43 AM

There is someone who I have seen commenting, off and on, usually goes in waves, at politico lately who bears a strong resemblance to him. A commenter named FeralCat.

KentAllard on July 30, 2009 at 2:33 AM

Hmmm… Well, you never know….

At any rate I’m done for the night. I hope that we’ll find out on the morrow that MB4 hasn’t been banned.

And, Entelechy, I hope you’re doing well.

FloatingRock on July 30, 2009 at 2:45 AM

I wish to apologize to Ed in advance if MB4 is merely in a self imposed exile.

FloatingRock on July 30, 2009 at 2:47 AM

“or the guy who posts a thousand Mark Twain & T. Jefferson quotes in one topic.”

surely his most prominent “digital fingerprint”
:-)

/hope all is well with him and hope the hosts say something about this tomorrow morn., presuming they have any info. …

Buckaroo on July 30, 2009 at 2:59 AM

And, Entelechy, I hope you’re doing well.

FloatingRock on July 30, 2009 at 2:45 AM

Indeed.

A respected voice on this site. And missed.

Kini on July 30, 2009 at 3:20 AM

Ed—HotAir—you need to rectify this injustice. I thought Ed’s Croce thread was very clever, myself, but while MB4 clearly misunderstood the point, he indicated before he was banned that due to technical issues he hadn’t watched the video. His rant was entirely understandable in that context. The thread was intentionally meant to misconstrue its intent.

FloatingRock on July 30, 2009 at 1:50 AM

If I recall correctly from that thread of a few weeks ago, MB4′s point seemed to be that even though that thread was suppose to not actually be another thread about Jackson, just one that kind of fooled some people into thinking that it was yet another thread about Jackson (even though the back of the head shot didn’t look at all like Jackson), it was actually another thread, at least in part, about Jackson, with just what he considered to be “plausible deniability” because of the “ruse”. Imagine if you were to say in your wife’s direction, “What a fat a$$!” and then your wife gives you a look that could kill and you say, “But I meant that other woman in front of you! See look at her!” But your wife is probably going to know what your game was.

Murphy9 on July 30, 2009 at 3:23 AM

Beck’s logic is correct. Listen to the excerpt he made on why if you don’t get it.

I’m sick of liberals getting away with the Sotomayor kind of crap and Obama not being tied to these horrible (racist) people he puts in power. When they’re called on it they cry, but turn around and use it on decent Americans all the time.

This must stop and we should help Beck get the word out.

scotash on July 30, 2009 at 3:44 AM

To be fair, it wouldn’t do HA’s reputation a lot of good to be known as a hotbed of birtherism.

guntotinglibertarian on July 30, 2009 at 1:19 AM

Do you have any evidence that MB4 was a birther? I’ve never associated him with that conspiracy in my mind, although I’m not certain enough to say he’d be immune. As of now, the evidence seems to indicate that if he was banned due to a misunderstanding, (by design), about the Michael Jackson/Croce thread.

FloatingRock on July 30, 2009 at 2:11 AM

I think it was the Michael Jackson/Croce thread for sure, but I will lay you odds that MB4 would likely be a “birther” as progressoverpeace is a “birther” and I can see him thinking along the same lines of “people don’t hide things unless they have something to hide” and being skeptical with partial and selective and sometimes inconsistent release of evidence. Also I remember him quoting Twain’s saying something like “If you find yourself on the side of the majority it is time to pause and reflect”. I think his personality type would find himself drawn to the contrarian/skeptics view. But then what do I know. I am just the utterly mad deceased founding father of psychiatry.

Sigmund on July 30, 2009 at 3:50 AM

I think it was the Michael Jackson/Croce thread for sure, but I will lay you odds that MB4 would likely be a “birther” as progressoverpeace is a “birther”

Sigmund on July 30, 2009 at 3:50 AM

When Obama Himself refuses to do the easy as pie act of releasing his birth certificate, such a simple and reasonable matter, to establish His constitutional eligibility to be U.S. President, it is only “conspiratorial nonsense” creation on His part.

MB4 on December 8, 2008 at 1:21 PM

TMK on July 30, 2009 at 3:55 AM

For Geraldo Rivera, anyone who wants the laws of this country enforced is a racist . And that is OK with everyone.
But there is a problem if proud racists ( Obamas)
are called racist based on Obamas’ own history, actions and words over the years ?
How can quoting Obama’s own words be racist?

macncheez on July 30, 2009 at 4:06 AM

Zero love for Savage (who has a profile in the current New Yorker).

Ugly on July 30, 2009 at 4:08 AM

Sigmund on July 30, 2009 at 3:50 AM

You may be right. He could possibly be a birther, (I’m not sure), regardless, that apparently isn’t why he was banned, (if he was at all). And besides, I noticed today that some of my favorite members, that also happen to be birthers, were still present today in spite of the recent threads ridiculing the subject, so I don’t think that topic has anything to do with the possibility he was banned. The Croce thread was before the HA push against Birtherism.

When Obama Himself refuses to do the easy as pie act of releasing his birth certificate, such a simple and reasonable matter, to establish His constitutional eligibility to be U.S. President, it is only “conspiratorial nonsense” creation on His part.

MB4 on December 8, 2008 at 1:21 PM

TMK on July 30, 2009 at 3:55 AM

That was way back in December of last year. I’m not a Birther, I never have been, yet only a few weeks ago I said here that Obama should reveal his birth certificate. Why wouldn’t he? (I haven’t paid any attention to the controversy so am not aware of all the facts.) Then I learned that apparently Hawaii destroyed all their birth certificates a few years ago for some reason.

Does that make me a Birther? Because I’m not.

That statement by MB4 doesn’t prove he was a birther, and it doesn’t seem to be a factor anyway so it’s immaterial.

FloatingRock on July 30, 2009 at 4:16 AM

Birther, obama-antichrist, and Glenn Beck posts on the same day. Trifecta of stupidity

Greenhelmet on July 30, 2009 at 4:22 AM

But there is a problem if proud racists ( Obamas)
are called racist based on Obamas’ own history, actions and words over the years ?
How can quoting Obama’s own words be racist?

macncheez on July 30, 2009 at 4:06 AM

We’re all just Typical White Persons, inbred in our culture.

Kini on July 30, 2009 at 4:33 AM

A respected voice on this site. And missed.

Kini on July 30, 2009 at 3:20 AM

Yes.

hillbillyjim on July 30, 2009 at 4:34 AM

Glenn Beck is absolutely correct, though. If he said those statements, he would be branded a racist by the media (because he is a conservative). However, if Obama says them, then it’s o.k.?

I loathe double-standards and this one reeks to high heaven.

Theophile on July 30, 2009 at 4:39 AM

Yeah… I’m sure FOX is losing sleep over what MSNoRatingsBC thinks.

Plus, getting scolded by the Olberman network is just precious. Journalist, heal thyself.

Lehosh on July 30, 2009 at 5:25 AM

And to me, the prospect that Ed banned MB4, (who was a member years before Ed himself), due to a disagreement about the frequency of Michael Jackson threads is appalling to me. If you don’t care that a valued member was banned over such an, apparently, trivial offense, then I’m sure you’ll be happy once I’ve been banned in the next few days, possibly, as I try to figure out what happened to MB4.

FloatingRock on July 30, 2009 at 1:25 AM

Stated better: The Croce thread was a deliberate attempt to mislead. It’s obvious to me, (and should be plausible to others), that such an attempt could lead some members, (even valued veterans), with technical problems to certain conclusions, especially considering the context of a proliferation of Michael Jackson threads at the time.

FloatingRock on July 30, 2009 at 1:55 AM

It wasn’t a disagreement over the frequency of the MJ threads that did him, nor do I think it was just a matter of being fooled. He was able to learn from other commenters who the thread was about. MB4′s crime was that he chose to make an ass of himself and start poking Ed in the eye over it, in effect trying to start a flame war with him. Ed’s a nice guy and I like him a lot, but starting a flame war with someone who holds the ban hammer is not a good idea.

A lot of people who were taken in by the deception were good-natured about it and took it well. I think if MB4 had chosen that route he would still be here.

backwoods conservative on July 30, 2009 at 5:40 AM

Make that did him in. Even with Preview I failed to catch my error.

backwoods conservative on July 30, 2009 at 5:43 AM

MB4’s crime was that he chose to make an ass of himself

backwoods conservative on July 30, 2009 at 5:40 AM

Illogical. Exceedingly very few people “choose to make an ass” of themselves as you choose to put it, and as with beauty, “make an ass” is in the eye of the beholder. Think Obama/Gates and Crowley.

semloh on July 30, 2009 at 6:02 AM

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