Oh my: New WSJ poll shows support for ObamaCare tanking; Update: “This is a president who needs a vacation”
posted at 8:22 pm on July 29, 2009 by Allahpundit
Granted, the NYT poll that’s also out tonight shows him considerably stronger on the issue, but even there you’ve got massive majorities saying they’re concerned that the cost of care will go up (59 percent) and the quality of care will go down (69 percent). And like I say, that’s the “good” poll.
Here’s the one we’re concerned with.
In mid-June, the public was evenly divided when asked whether it thought Mr. Obama’s health plan was a good idea or bad idea. The new poll, conducted July 24-27, found 42% calling it a bad idea versus 36% who said it was a good idea. Among those with insurance, the portion calling the plan a bad idea rose to 47% from 37%…
On health care, there was another worrisome sign for the president: Only two in 10 people predicted the quality of their own care would improve under the Obama plan, and just 15% of those with private insurance thought it would. Twice as many overall, and three times as many with private coverage, predicted their own care would get worse.
Not only is he now in net negative territory on the subject…
…but note the swing among from April to July between those who don’t have an opinion to those who expect care will deteriorate. All the more reason to cherish the August recess as a chance to further educate the public about the plan.
Here’s an especially amazing shift. Look how many people have reoriented towards worries about rationing in just the past month.
I know it’s uncharacteristic, but I’m actually feeling a frisson of … optimism, dare I say it. The whole survey’s almost unvarnished good news. Almost:
Update: A runner-up for quote of the day from one of the pollsters who conducted this survey:
“This is a president who needs a vacation,” says Democratic pollster Peter D. Hart, who conducted the survey with Republican pollster Bill McInturff. “His job rating is … certainly an acceptable mark. But if you look at it over time, it has [gone] south without a doubt.”…
But the poll, McInturff says, makes it clear that Obama — who had been gliding above the partisan fray — has come back down to earth. Conservatives and Republicans have moved away from him, while his numbers in the South and Midwest have declined.
“The question I asked back in February was: When does political gravity take hold?” he said. “The answer is in this survey. It is happening right now.”
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good bye
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Janos Hunyadi on July 29, 2009 at 8:23 PM
CYA Mothereffer!
Apologetic California on July 29, 2009 at 8:24 PM
He won. Why are we bothering with polls?
Realist on July 29, 2009 at 8:24 PM
Don’t get worked up. Polls only matter to Democrats when they support them. The 10% Congress just keeps trucking along without a goddamned thought for the people who gave them their jobs.
MadisonConservative on July 29, 2009 at 8:25 PM
I feel optimism just for the fact you didn’t bring up Huckabee at the end.
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Emily M. on July 29, 2009 at 8:25 PM
Item 34 was expected. It IS a NYT poll after all. The others were surprising.
Guardian on July 29, 2009 at 8:25 PM
As if public sentiment would ever keep Ogabe from doing whatever the he!l he wants to do. The Lieutenant would have his butt in a sling if he were to allow a bunch of serfs to dictate the terms.
Expect a crisis to suddenly appear mid-August; meanwhile Ogabe and Pelosi are behind the scenes threatening dire punishments against the blue dogs.
Bishop on July 29, 2009 at 8:27 PM
No we aren’t winning. We’ll end up with half a sh-t sandwich instead of the whole thing. The fact remains that government continues to grow while we eat poop.
toliver on July 29, 2009 at 8:27 PM
still nice to see when the big O’s baby is in crash & burn mode
cmsinaz on July 29, 2009 at 8:27 PM
Tanking?
Obamacare will be the Death of us all.
See, this is the pea. And ya got three walnut shells on the table in front of you. Got that?
Now the pea is under this walnut shell.
Now, let me just move them around a little bit.
OK, which shell has the pea under it?
Only gonna cost ya ’bout a trillion or so to play.
Well, which shell is it?
Oops…gotta go…cops walkin’ this way.
coldwarrior on July 29, 2009 at 8:27 PM
Burn, baby burn. To cinders. And take the Obambi presidency with you.
Cicero43 on July 29, 2009 at 8:27 PM
Allah! If you’re gonna tease us with a Waterloo” tagline, at least post the video…
So catchy. Goooo ABBA!!!
Abby Adams on July 29, 2009 at 8:28 PM
This is utterly historic. Never has so much political capital been so egregiously spent upon more diddly squat than I have ever seen, nor has history ever seen. This is a lonely man in sheer denial of the face of reality. It is no wonder he wants to try and build a totalitarian regime–he cannot handle opposition, he cannot handle bad news and he cannot handle the truth.
Political capital is the currency of the President. It is stunningly hilarious to see that he spends his political capital like he is spending our money. Unfortunately for him, I can make more money–but he sure ain’t going to make more capital. Once it’s gone, it’s gone there….champ.
To take a page from Ross Perot— “do you hear that sound, that giant sucking sound…”
it’s the air being let out of Obama’s Presidency….and it couldn’t have happened to a better guy.
ted c on July 29, 2009 at 8:28 PM
There is hope we can stop this………..
Seven Percent Solution on July 29, 2009 at 8:29 PM
Polls can say one thing, but congress does another. No one supports cap and tax, yet it passed the House and will likely pass the senate.
This health care crap will also pass.
WSJ/NBC poll is garbage. Rasmussen is the guy to trust in polls.
jencab on July 29, 2009 at 8:29 PM
AP… you just had to tie Palin in…
Here come the pitchforks.
Upstater85 on July 29, 2009 at 8:30 PM
Once we get the health care bill burning, then we kill the porkulus before they spend any more of it.
Tantor on July 29, 2009 at 8:30 PM
ditto….I need a cape fix
cmsinaz on July 29, 2009 at 8:31 PM
Early pre-American tour ABBA at that. Nearly forty years and still a catchy tune.
coldwarrior on July 29, 2009 at 8:31 PM
They control everything… they’re going to get something.
The hope is that it is watered-down and undoable.
mankai on July 29, 2009 at 8:31 PM
90% of Americans are happy with their health care.
100% of the house and senate are happy with their health care.
100% of federal workers are happy with their health care.
So who does that leave as the unhappy bunch, illegal immigrants?
Just who are we spending a kazillion dollars on, anyway?
fogw on July 29, 2009 at 8:31 PM
Damn TOTUS made me lie – Barack Insane Obama
izoneguy on July 29, 2009 at 8:31 PM
spot on!
cmsinaz on July 29, 2009 at 8:32 PM
The point isn’t so much that WSJ/NBC is reliable. It’s that when even they’re saying ObamaCare is unpopular, you can bet your last dollar Americans despise the plan.
amerpundit on July 29, 2009 at 8:32 PM
……… Now you’ve done it!
:O)
Seven Percent Solution on July 29, 2009 at 8:32 PM
Funny what the light of day will do to an Obama bill. That’s what happens when people get to read the trash that they put in these bills.
TXMomof3 on July 29, 2009 at 8:32 PM
Hey…has anyone else had an ACORN bus pull-up and park outside their house?
Bishop on July 29, 2009 at 8:32 PM
All of his proposals are lies. He’s saying that you are going to have better coverage for less money.
If an insurance agent sold policies like that, they would lose their license in a second.
He’s mandating coverage and saying that will lower costs. Costs are high in New York because they have so much mandated coverage. Drop the mandates and costs drop. You need to put more emphasis on the consumer taking responsibility for their health costs instead of using the insurance policy to pay for everything for them.
Of course, lowering costs isn’t really Obama’s plan because he can’t make a single proposal which would actually impact costs in a downward fashion.
ThackerAgency on July 29, 2009 at 8:33 PM
Go to your congress critter when they are home. Let them know how you feel.
jukin on July 29, 2009 at 8:33 PM
I’d like to see bills that require congress to go onto whatever bills are passed concerning healthcare, or social security. I’m sure any fair minded, honest politician would agree.
Star20 on July 29, 2009 at 8:34 PM
Abby Adams on July 29, 2009 at 8:28 PM
Holy moly! I’d forgotten how really awful the fashions were in the 70s!!
Nice guitar, there too.
Thanks for the comic relief!
tru2tx on July 29, 2009 at 8:34 PM
Allah, can we at least get a promise that if ObamaCare is voted down, His Majesty will return?
MadisonConservative on July 29, 2009 at 8:35 PM
I saw some tell-tale signs today Bishop. Lots of people, including Napolitano at DHS warning of the coming swine flu epidemic. You know, the one that petered out the first go round.
fogw on July 29, 2009 at 8:35 PM
If insurance companies are so evil and charging so much, then people should just self insure. They can save the money they would use to buy insurance and pay the doctor CASH when they need it. Pay CASH for their expensive medicine when they need it.
After all, the evil insurance companies are wasting everyone’s money. Notice the story of Obama’s mother worrying. She shouldn’t have because Obama doesn’t say that the insurance didn’t pay their bill. If insurance didn’t pay for his mama, do you think he’d be using that in his story?
Insurance DOES pay or you sue. They are regulated already more than anyone. . . and their rates are approved by the departments of insurances in EVERY state EVERY year.
ThackerAgency on July 29, 2009 at 8:35 PM
To take a page from Ross Perot— “do you hear that sound, that giant sucking sound…”
it’s the air being let out of Obama’s Presidency….and it couldn’t have happened to a better guy.
ted c on July 29, 2009 at 8:28 PM
I shouldn’t admit this, but I was 18 in 1992 and really excited about getting to vote in a presidential election for the first time. I voted for Perot and I share the blame for Clinton.
TXMomof3 on July 29, 2009 at 8:36 PM
In just the last week the line by line dissection that first appeared on Twitter has now been read by probably millions. The actual details are so shocking/Orwellian that even if you entered into the proceedings supporting universal care the end product is not what you had in mind.
It is not a stretch to suggest, that for this very reason, the plan was to pass a unread bill and sign it into law before the August recess.
Right now they are trying to deflect our reading of the bill by saying the “blue dogs” are fighting for savings! The truth of the matter is, the money is chump change. In the end the blue dogs want this horrific bill. Very disturbing.
patrick neid on July 29, 2009 at 8:36 PM
Don’t celebrate yet.
Midas on July 29, 2009 at 8:36 PM
take video to your townhall events. Arm yourself with facts and the truth. Speak like a statesman. Dress nicely like the fella in Missouri the other day who skewered the McCaskill minion.
be relentless, pursue them all the way down to their hole. Discredit their efforts, shed light on their plans and take it to youtube.
looking forward to seeing you.
ted c on July 29, 2009 at 8:36 PM
Obamacare will pass, at least the framework. They will fill in the blanks after the 1200 page bill passes. Cap and trade will pass. And Obama will call for, and get, another trillion dollar stimulus. It only get’s worse from here.
Weight of Glory on July 29, 2009 at 8:36 PM
Then just watch the markets/consumer confidence rise.
jukin on July 29, 2009 at 8:36 PM
I voted for Ross Perot too. good example of what a third candidate does for our side. Splits the vote. bad news.
ted c on July 29, 2009 at 8:37 PM
You know Rahm and Obambi will not let this die. That is what scares me……
ctmom on July 29, 2009 at 8:37 PM
Liberty is the smoke of a burning healthcare bill.
make it so.
ted c on July 29, 2009 at 8:38 PM
Didn’t look today, but I suppose I could have heard them demanding food stamps if they were there.
Why? You want target practice? Don’t be too mean to them. Just sick (sp?) your chipmunk on them.
Upstater85 on July 29, 2009 at 8:38 PM
In other news, scientists discovered 2/10 American adults have an IQ under 40.
angryed on July 29, 2009 at 8:38 PM
If they won’t let it die, then we’ll just make them wish it were dead…..
ted c on July 29, 2009 at 8:38 PM
If it is painted black and has long rotating blades on top then that is no bus.
Limerick on July 29, 2009 at 8:39 PM
I voted for Ross Perot too. good example of what a third candidate does for our side. Splits the vote. bad news.
ted c on July 29, 2009 at 8:37 PM
That’s my concern about Palin. I don’t think a third-party candidate can win.
TXMomof3 on July 29, 2009 at 8:39 PM
I hope every word you say turns out to be the utter truth.
I guess he can defy the will of the people, or he can try for two terms. Not sure he can do both.
JiangxiDad on July 29, 2009 at 8:40 PM
agreed. she needs to get the nomination or hang it up and move out of the way. I think Hillary considered a third party,
ted c on July 29, 2009 at 8:40 PM
she may have been able to pull it off.
ted c on July 29, 2009 at 8:40 PM
If the Repubs want to win in ’12, they better play nice with all cons/con-leaners… at least in the states that might swing Donk.
Upstater85 on July 29, 2009 at 8:40 PM
That was my reaction too reading about the military preparing for the Mexican Flu. Start wagging that tail little doggie.
angryed on July 29, 2009 at 8:41 PM
Palin isn’t going to go third party. She will work within the framework of the Republican Party. They will come to her. She doesn’t have to go to them.
BetseyRoss on July 29, 2009 at 8:42 PM
If it doesn’t pass then the politicos will do what they always do…chop it up and hide it in other bills. Just like that $4500 clunker boondoggle stuffed in the last defense appropriations bill.
Limerick on July 29, 2009 at 8:42 PM
beware of this swine flu swindle. It may be more trumped up than anything. FEMA, under martial law or national emergency, becomes EXTRAORDINARILY powerful…
I’d think The Won would love to put some jackbooted thugs out on the streets and have your neck under their heel.
ted c on July 29, 2009 at 8:42 PM
I think Hillary considered a third party,
ted c on July 29, 2009 at 8:40 PM
Oh, I would have totally supported it on her part! All the angry Puma’s would have abandoned Obama.
TXMomof3 on July 29, 2009 at 8:43 PM
…Maybe… but then can Barry take credit for it?
Upstater85 on July 29, 2009 at 8:44 PM
I would’ve supported Hillary in a third party run. I would’ve raised a glass for her and cast my vote somewhere else.
She would’ve been the Ross Perot of 2008.
ted c on July 29, 2009 at 8:45 PM
…Heck, I would even go with the Goracle’s narrative and call her the Nader of 2008.
Upstater85 on July 29, 2009 at 8:46 PM
Girl on the right is cute. *Look’s to the right… No MadCon* *Looks to the left… No Lorien*
I’d hit it. :o)
FontanaConservative on July 29, 2009 at 8:46 PM
I’d think The Won would love to put some jackbooted thugs out on the streets and have your neck under their heel.
ted c on July 29, 2009 at 8:42 PM
Lets hope they aren’t that organized yet.
fourdeucer on July 29, 2009 at 8:48 PM
The Goracle—that’s a great handle for him. It personifies the tool.
ted c on July 29, 2009 at 8:48 PM
And all we got was a blue dress with DNA on it…
ericdijon on July 29, 2009 at 8:48 PM
don’t forget that baby milk factory we smoked with those tomahawks…we got that too!
ted c on July 29, 2009 at 8:48 PM
Again the devil is in the details.
Yep here goes… an over representation of Democrats and Independents as usual…(whoops PDF file):
This charade of misrepresentation never fails with these polls.
Mcguyver on July 29, 2009 at 8:49 PM
Cracked me up Emily… Good one.. :)
Honestly Bishop, we have plans for ACORN if/when they gain enough power to think it’s a good idea to show up in the red neck territory called Montana.
Keemo on July 29, 2009 at 8:49 PM
Well, I think that Obama is going to have a lot of company on 9/12. People are waking up and want to take a stand.
TXMomof3 on July 29, 2009 at 8:50 PM
And the
appeasementPeas talks with Air-PhatUpstater85 on July 29, 2009 at 8:50 PM
btw, Drudge showing new Gallup poll 53 to 39 approve/disapprove Obama.
JiangxiDad on July 29, 2009 at 8:51 PM
I live in Los Angeles, the land of the librals, and even I have not found 2 people who want this type of health care pintervention they just want cheaper ins for the 12 million who need it and dont have it NOW that Arnold is gutting CAs cuz it’s too expensive…ironic
CCRWM on July 29, 2009 at 8:51 PM
People, just keep whispering to the sheeple… they’ll come around. Don’t let off.
Upstater85 on July 29, 2009 at 8:52 PM
JiangxiDad on July 29, 2009 at 8:52 PM
My distrust for this pack of liars is so great I wouldn’t put it past them to purposely start infecting people, if it can accelerate their transition to a socialist state.
fogw on July 29, 2009 at 8:52 PM
LOL. We can bunk together in the re-education camps.
JiangxiDad on July 29, 2009 at 8:53 PM
Funny, I thought he had already toured the Pyramids.
Heck, if he pays his own way, I don’t mind if he takes a permanent vaca.
I think many Americans could even swallow paying for his one way Scare Farce One flight to Gaza.
Upstater85 on July 29, 2009 at 8:54 PM
I wonder why Americans don’t trust the SRM on this. This must be quite a shock for them. I suppose if Obama goes down on this,or in general, they go down with him.
JiangxiDad on July 29, 2009 at 8:56 PM
that new gallup poll has just got to be raaacist…
ted c on July 29, 2009 at 8:56 PM
Not as much as we need a vacation from him.
Daggett on July 29, 2009 at 8:57 PM
I wonder why Americans don’t trust the SRM on this. This must be quite a shock for them. I suppose if Obama goes down on this,or in general, they go down with him.
JiangxiDad on July 29, 2009 at 8:56 PM
I sure would hate to see Katie Curic on the unemployment line.
TXMomof3 on July 29, 2009 at 8:57 PM
daggett nailed it…
booya
ted c on July 29, 2009 at 8:57 PM
And that will be sweeeet. I pray for that day.
tru2tx on July 29, 2009 at 8:58 PM
Couric?
TXMomof3 on July 29, 2009 at 8:58 PM
ding ding ding!
cmsinaz on July 29, 2009 at 8:58 PM
Obama is now the millstone around the necks of a whole lotta Americans. He sinks, they sink right with him.
The female cop the other day in Cambridge wasn’t going down with him.
drip drip drip….
ted c on July 29, 2009 at 8:59 PM
No way that ACORN thugs would make a tour stop outside of their safe zones.
“Get off my lawn” takes on a whole new meaning when you’re holding a rifle. Think Gran Torino.
Bishop on July 29, 2009 at 8:59 PM
footsteps,….. footsteps behind you rahm… T partyers….. chasing you. watching your .. car.. buddy…
go order seafood..
ted c on July 29, 2009 at 9:00 PM
Wow. Michelle O. must be pissed.
ctmom on July 29, 2009 at 9:00 PM
Now that The Won is below 50%, I wonder if Mrs. Obama is once again, NOT proud of her country….
fair weather patriots…
ted c on July 29, 2009 at 9:01 PM
We need Rush’s soundbite,THIS IS NOT ABOUT ME,I AM THE PRESIDENT,THIS IS NOT ABOUT ME,I am the president,this is not about me,I am the president. lol
ohiobabe on July 29, 2009 at 9:01 PM
I voted for Ross Perot too. good example of what a third candidate does for our side. Splits the vote. bad news.
ted c on July 29, 2009 at 8:37 PM
That’s my concern about Palin. I don’t think a third-party candidate can win.
TXMomof3 on July 29, 2009 at 8:39 PM
i am not suggesting a third party but….there’s a big difference between perot and palin.
SHARPTOOTH on July 29, 2009 at 9:01 PM
Wow. Michelle O. must be pissed.
ctmom on July 29, 2009 at 9:00 PM
You know I have been thinking about that. She strikes me as the kind that could go “domestic” on him.
TXMomof3 on July 29, 2009 at 9:02 PM
that may be true, but–why have history repeat itself.
I don’t think a third party candidate can run a viable campaign for national office, UNTIL several races have been won by that party in the house and senate.
ted c on July 29, 2009 at 9:03 PM
SHARPTOOTH on July 29, 2009 at 9:01 PM
I go where she goes, I am a card carrying Palinista.
TXMomof3 on July 29, 2009 at 9:03 PM
Obamacare will fail – it already has. What you have now is the Democrats retreating wildly – with a few attempting to “rally” to save face. They are not supermen – and they cannot withstand the condemnation of the American people.
The Democrats can’t even hold town hall meetings without being clobbered by their constituents. The more the dig in on this issue – the more ridiculous they look. We have 1,000 pages of liberal nightmares bound up in the House’s Health Care Legislation – and you can be damned sure that Conservatives will be extracting those nightmares and holding them up to the American people.
Add to that – the fact that Liberals are even angry at ObamaCare at this point. It’s ugly on the left folks.
Will there be a bill passed? Oh yeah – but it will not contain a government owned public option. When President Sarah Palin is sworn in – she can sell that crap off to the highest bidder in the private sector. Low hanging fruit.
This should be good news to most of you. Not to me. I’d actually like to see Democrats piss off Americans EVEN MORE. Because I’d like to see a historic extermination of Democrats in the House and Senate next year. If the Blue Dogs keep injecting sense into the Democratic Party – it might not happen the way I want it to go down.
Which is …
HARD.
HondaV65 on July 29, 2009 at 9:04 PM
Because O-bots live by them.
Yeah, a long one. But then he vacationed for most of the past few months anyway.
ddrintn on July 29, 2009 at 9:05 PM
HondaV65 on July 29, 2009 at 9:04 PM
good analysis. agreed.
ted c on July 29, 2009 at 9:06 PM
How about a nice 3 1/2 year vacation for OGABE?
angryed on July 29, 2009 at 9:06 PM
TXMomof3 on July 29, 2009 at 9:03 PM
i believe she is the best thing to happen to conservatism since ronnie.
SHARPTOOTH on July 29, 2009 at 9:06 PM
They may pick out some corn and peanuts but they’re still serving crap sandwiches for all.
thomasaur on July 29, 2009 at 9:07 PM
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