Audio: Vitter hits “wishy washy” Voinovich for anti-southern comments
posted at 3:45 pm on July 29, 2009 by Allahpundit
It’s like the Neil Young/Skynyrd feud of the early 70s except with dreary Senate soundbites instead of country-fried classic rock. In hindsight, maybe Dan Gilgoff was right: Vitter’s salute to “core conservative values” would seem to encompass social conservatism, which, needless to say, is ironic coming from him. Even so, what he says at the end about The One’s domestic agenda erasing regional differences among right-wingers is undeniably true. The more Hopenchange focuses on remaking America as a command-and-control economy, the more focused Republicans are on fiscal conservatism and the less important the northern/southern cultural divide is. In fact, I’m surprised Obama hasn’t already reversed himself on gay marriage just to try to drive a wedge between libertarians and social cons. Presumably he thinks the chance of it backfiring by alienating centrists is too great, especially with the GOP momentarily powerless in the minority, but I’ll be curious to see whether he changes his mind next year if there’s a red wave in the midterms and he’s suddenly forced to take many more political risks. Click the image to listen.
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Do libertarians want dictates from the federal government on a one size fits all for the country? Doesn’t seem libertarian to me.
WashJeff on July 29, 2009 at 3:49 PM
Ruh-roh… what if we preferred Neil Young in that battle???
:-o
/actually too young to have any knowledge of that battle
Abby Adams on July 29, 2009 at 3:50 PM
On behalf of Ohio I apologize to the Southern Republicans. At least as a Cincinnatian I can blame Cleveland for WhineOvich.
JohnO on July 29, 2009 at 3:52 PM
Voinovich was well-deserving of a smackdown. Maybe he’ll go cry about this too.
Wellsy on July 29, 2009 at 3:52 PM
LOL. Liked that one. Very clever.
shick on July 29, 2009 at 3:52 PM
“Sweet Home Alabama”….
d1carter on July 29, 2009 at 3:53 PM
FIFY.
TMK on July 29, 2009 at 3:53 PM
Neil Young is the most overrated artist in the history of rock and roll.
Good Lt on July 29, 2009 at 3:53 PM
Why is it so ironic?
Just because a person FAILS to live up to a set values doesn’t mean that he must condemn those values.
I’m sure Vitter wants to be a good person – and maybe he IS now – we’re all human.
It’s not like he got drunk and ran off a bridge with a woman who wasn’t his wife and killed her and then tried to cover it up.
Sound familiar?
How come no one calls Old Ted a hypocrit when he lectures people on moral values (which he does a lot)?
And Vitter – though he may endorse those values – and promote them – I’ve yet to see him condemn anyone else for not living up to them.
HondaV65 on July 29, 2009 at 3:54 PM
It’s not. Libertarian is advocating for government to get out of the marriage business altogether and leave it as the social and religious construct it was intended to be. I would have voted No on Prop. 8 — not because I’m in favor of gay marriage but rather because I think inserting marriage into any constitution as some kind of fundamental right is insanity.
NoLeftTurn on July 29, 2009 at 3:55 PM
I would not be taking lectures from someone who sleeps with prostitutes
liberal343 on July 29, 2009 at 3:55 PM
Bruce Springsteen, ftw
Abby Adams on July 29, 2009 at 3:57 PM
I bet you’re all doe-eyed, when Barney Frank is trying to speak English.
OhEssYouCowboys on July 29, 2009 at 3:58 PM
HondaV65 on July 29, 2009 at 3:54 PM
BetseyRoss on July 29, 2009 at 3:58 PM
You mean you don’t sleep with your co-workers?
Upstater85 on July 29, 2009 at 3:59 PM
elderberry on July 29, 2009 at 3:59 PM
No-way, L343 only listens to lectures from men like Jesse Jackson and Bill Clinton, and other such Washington elites who get their whores for free.
TMK on July 29, 2009 at 4:00 PM
Its Voinovich for goodness sake…from the same town that gave the world Dennis Kucinich.
Must be that Cuyahoga River water they drink up on the north coast.
Anything Voinovich says should be held suspect until proven otherwise…if ever…or simply ignored.
coldwarrior on July 29, 2009 at 4:00 PM
liberal343 on July 29, 2009 at 3:55 PM
Nice343. So glad you’re back. Not.
kingsjester on July 29, 2009 at 4:01 PM
Don’t sweat it. It wasn’t a real feud anyway. Ronnie Van Zant and Neil Young were friends.
ladyingray on July 29, 2009 at 4:03 PM
If the obama administration outlaws nascar because of the energy crisis they would have a big problem on their hands.
workingforpigs on July 29, 2009 at 4:03 PM
Look, Abby, I’m gonna let you slide on the Neil Young comment only because he did Ohio while in C,S,Nash and Y. However, there is nothing like some southern fried Lynnard playing (Tuesday’s Gone) while driving the Blue Ridge, windows down, on a summer mountain night. NOTHING. Ah, college…
Mommypundit on July 29, 2009 at 4:03 PM
Only a total fool would sleep with a prostitute.
Vitter didn’t sleep with a prostitute.
Pay her, close and lock the door, take a shower, get a good night’s sleep…that’s how it is done, if done right.
coldwarrior on July 29, 2009 at 4:03 PM
Can we convince the Northern RINOs to adopt Lindsey Graham?
Dixie doesn’t need him.
kingsjester on July 29, 2009 at 4:03 PM
Like-minded souls!
mankai on July 29, 2009 at 4:03 PM
Lynyrd
Mommypundit on July 29, 2009 at 4:03 PM
He didn’t say it was hypocritical… he said it was ironic.
Abby Adams on July 29, 2009 at 4:04 PM
some southern fried
lynyrd
illiteracy is hard.
Mommypundit on July 29, 2009 at 4:04 PM
People up north think everyone in the south are barefoot racist morons… news flash… we have air conditioning here now. you are free to stay where you are.
workingforpigs on July 29, 2009 at 4:05 PM
Dixie voted for him, so until they vote him out, they can keep him.
Upstater85 on July 29, 2009 at 4:05 PM
All this because Mansfield and Dayton are such GREAT places to live!
/
SouthernGent on July 29, 2009 at 4:05 PM
You can’t say that too often or enough. Same for the booss (Abby Adams on July 29, 2009 at 3:57 PM)
4 DEAD IN OH – HI – OH!
ericdijon on July 29, 2009 at 4:06 PM
I meant to strike that. I’m struggling with my detox from diet coke…sorry.
Mommypundit on July 29, 2009 at 4:06 PM
Diaper Dave Vitter!
BJ* on July 29, 2009 at 4:07 PM
Thank you.
Cindy Munford on July 29, 2009 at 4:07 PM
Upstater85 on July 29, 2009 at 4:05 PM
C’mon, Man, you know you want him. Besides that, He doesn’t take up much room. You can pack him a suitcase. After Monday’s vote on Sotomayor, it’s very apparent he doesn’t have a spine.
kingsjester on July 29, 2009 at 4:07 PM
There was no Young/Skynyrd fued. Lynyrd Skynyrd were actually big fans of Young’s and when Neil Young heard Sweet Alabama he sent Skynyrd a message telling them he thought it was a great song and wasn’t offended. The night after thier plane crashed Young played the song in concert in tribute.
peacenprosperity on July 29, 2009 at 4:07 PM
politics.
Mommypundit on July 29, 2009 at 4:07 PM
Don’t want anyone that will pander to a group that won’t vote for him put will sh*t in the faces of a group that might have.
Upstater85 on July 29, 2009 at 4:08 PM
Too many Republicans seem to be operating under a Hypocritc Oath.
The Race Card on July 29, 2009 at 4:09 PM
I hope Barack Ogabe will remember, a southern man don’t need him around, anyhow! Dun dun deenahhh da dun dun deenahhhhh…
Bishop on July 29, 2009 at 4:10 PM
Superlatives are among the least effective tool in a debaters arsenal.
The Race Card on July 29, 2009 at 4:10 PM
“southern man don’t need him ’round anyhow”
txsurveyor on July 29, 2009 at 4:11 PM
I used to worry about my spelling here, and once in awhile I still correct myself if I think it effects what I’m saying, but I think most of us read this stuff so quickly we don’t notice spelling. There have been studies that show that is common. I find that the people on here who have commented on someones spelling usually didn’t have very good arguements and resorted to that out of desperation for something to say.
peacenprosperity on July 29, 2009 at 4:12 PM
That prison in Shawshank Redemption? Mansfield.
Couldn’t find a creepy lookin’ old prison below the Mason-Dixon, so they had to find one in Ohio.
coldwarrior on July 29, 2009 at 4:13 PM
It might be an urban legend … OK, a rural legend … but I heard that Van Zant was buried in a Neil Young tee-shirt.
And re: politics – I used to really like CSN&Y’s Deja Vu album, but their politics have ruined that for me.
OhEssYouCowboys on July 29, 2009 at 4:14 PM
Ugh. Wish he would have followed DeMint’s lead and just washed over it.
Fighting him on this just makes it a story. With Voino on his way out, it’s not worth it.
DJ Tablesauce on July 29, 2009 at 4:14 PM
That was the opening PRO statement. Were waiting for the CON rebuttal.
ericdijon on July 29, 2009 at 4:15 PM
Yep, unless mangled to the point of incoherency, or a typo that is so unintentionally funny that you can’t pass it up. Otherwise… it’s fine to misspell a wrod or too evry know adn than.
Abby Adams on July 29, 2009 at 4:16 PM
I’ve been to more 150 concerts in my life. I saw Neil Young do an all acoustic set in a small auditorium . It was a great show.
It’s difficult to view artists of the past through a modern lens. But I think Elvis is way overrated.
The Race Card on July 29, 2009 at 4:17 PM
Rust Never Sleeps was pretty damn good, too. Harvest is considered a classic; but I find it boring.
OhEssYouCowboys on July 29, 2009 at 4:18 PM
Really? Who’s second most over rated?
Akzed on July 29, 2009 at 4:21 PM
Michael Jackson has got to be up there somewhere.
Upstater85 on July 29, 2009 at 4:21 PM
Voinovich is really a democrat in republican clothing. Vote his a$$ out.
workingforpigs on July 29, 2009 at 4:22 PM
If I see that damned loop of Jackson’s rehearsal ONE MORE TIME …
OhEssYouCowboys on July 29, 2009 at 4:23 PM
Bobby Sherman
ericdijon on July 29, 2009 at 4:24 PM
Ya had to say it, didn’t you…
ladyingray on July 29, 2009 at 4:24 PM
why not celebrate a poor black child that became a successful white woman.
workingforpigs on July 29, 2009 at 4:25 PM
This is liberal-speak.
Basicallly, you’re too lazy to care about the specifics contained within the statements you make. You attribute your laziness to some burgeoning societal trend, which thereby relieves you of any responsibility for your own words. To top it off, you cast those of us who devote even cursory scrutiny to our language as otherwise negligible.
Try this one:
You’re either too dumb, too lazy or too insolent to give a crap about the ordering of a few letters since your thoughts are so transparent anyway.
The Race Card on July 29, 2009 at 4:25 PM
Neil rocks.
GoodLt prolly likes Celine Dione, Styx…
Akzed on July 29, 2009 at 4:26 PM
Isn’t he resigning anyway?
Upstater85 on July 29, 2009 at 4:27 PM
Never hearda him. GoodLt prolly likes him.
Akzed on July 29, 2009 at 4:27 PM
Well, someone asked.
Just don’t see what talent MJ really had. I mean, sure there was some, but I think in 100 years, his influence on music just isn’t going to be what some claim it will be…
Upstater85 on July 29, 2009 at 4:28 PM
Isn’t Louisiana the Southern state that takes the most French-like stance towards extramarital affairs? If so, I wouldn’t say Vitter is all that damaged.
Speedwagon82 on July 29, 2009 at 4:28 PM
did you mix up your that with a which?
ericdijon on July 29, 2009 at 4:29 PM
Harvest is aight. “Old Man” is a better version of “Cat’s in the Cradle” by Harry Chapin. “Heart of Gold” is pretty tight too.
The Race Card on July 29, 2009 at 4:30 PM
As far as the true “superstars” springsteen is by far the most overrated. He had 3 decent albums and then that was it. What bugs me about the guy and his politics is that he has never wrote a happy song. His songs have the same theme, “my town/state/country/world/friends/family sucks but I am brave and courageous and will overcome the suckiness”. On the country side, willie is the most overrated. He was just Waylon’s wierd friend until hollywood discovered him. And among the minor ones, guys like bon jovi and mellencamp should get down on thier knees every night and thank God for making them millionaires for no obvious reason.
peacenprosperity on July 29, 2009 at 4:30 PM
Are we sure that Vitter’s playing Skynyrd here? Because I could totally see him representing for “A Man Needs A Maid”. Or how about “Welfare Mothers”? I hear they make better lovers.
Siobhan on July 29, 2009 at 4:31 PM
Hey! The race card is back from trying to pick up ivy league boys. they make him all warm and wet.
How about this, jerkoff. I cannot type as quickly as my brain works(and its unlikely you could type as quickly as my brain works either) and are not so vain that I feel I have to go back and critique myself before hitting send.
How is this for some bad spelling, fark off, dipshot.
peacenprosperity on July 29, 2009 at 4:33 PM
Good day The Race Card,
We regret to inform you that, due to recent your recent remarks at HotAir.com, your ghetto pass has been revoked.
The Race Card on July 29, 2009 at 4:33 PM
Well, I hear that Laurel Canyon is full of famous stars,
But I hate them worse than lepers
And I’ll kill them in their cars.
-N. Young
What’s not to like?
Akzed on July 29, 2009 at 4:34 PM
Springsteen never wrote a happy song?! How about “The Rising”?
Besides, sometimes it’s best for artists to stay depressed. Case in point… Bob Dylan. “Self Portrait”. Ick.
Siobhan on July 29, 2009 at 4:37 PM
Neil Young tunes will be the music used to put senior citizens down under OgabeCare; one line of his music and they will tip over. Seriously, there are wild cats around my place that sound better than him.
Bishop on July 29, 2009 at 4:37 PM
How about the really forced use of “cars,” to rhyme with “stars”? It’s kinda like the Turtles song … I think it’s the Turtles … Happy Together -
“So happy together. How is the weather?”
Ack.
OhEssYouCowboys on July 29, 2009 at 4:38 PM
I agree…but don’t tell my coworker.
ladyingray on July 29, 2009 at 4:38 PM
You do realize that your brain also controls your motor skills, don’t you? So you can type only as quickly as your “brain works.”
But that was a great try! You’re like the parents who blame their kids epic scholastic failures on their boredom with the curriculum.
The Race Card on July 29, 2009 at 4:39 PM
Survey says, “XXX!”
The Race Card on July 29, 2009 at 4:40 PM
Here’s a depressing recording:
blip……blip……blip……blip……blip……blip……blip……blip……blip……blip………………….blip..blip..blip.blip……bleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep
- Michael Jackson’s last recoding.
ericdijon on July 29, 2009 at 4:41 PM
But the Turtles lived in Laurel Canyon!
Akzed on July 29, 2009 at 4:41 PM
Had the same thought when recently I went to a tractor pull for the first time. All those carbon emissions! I would have loved to see AlGore’s head explode over that!
IrishEyes on July 29, 2009 at 4:41 PM
;)
Upstater85 on July 29, 2009 at 4:42 PM
Seriously, there are wild cats around my place that sound better than him.
Bishop on July 29, 2009 at 4:37 PM
C’mon, Bishop. Give some warning first. Sweet tea all over the monitor again. Where did I put that Windex?
kingsjester on July 29, 2009 at 4:43 PM
This goes for me too. I e-mailed his office with a link to last night’s HA post along for a wish for a hasty end to his current term.
BuckeyeSam on July 29, 2009 at 4:43 PM
LOL, K.
OhEssYouCowboys on July 29, 2009 at 4:43 PM
Was BigCarbonFootPrint there?
ICBM on July 29, 2009 at 4:47 PM
Vitter trying to clothe himself in the Mantle of the True Conservative? Rich. But at least I can agree with his words. Now to get matching actions…
hawksruleva on July 29, 2009 at 4:47 PM
Maybe your brain is so simplistic that your political philosophies, analytical skills and typing ability are all from the same lobe. You have actually proved my point, that idiots without anything substantial to say criticize other posters grammer and spelling. That proves to me what I figured out about you along time ago when you expressed your awe and sexual obsession of ivy league boys, substance means nothing to you and appearance is everything. I bet every piece of clothing you own has a prominent label so everyone knows what clothes you wear. I bet everything you own was bought with the thought,”They will be impressed with me now.”
peacenprosperity on July 29, 2009 at 4:48 PM
Windex on your monitor? Good lord, chap. You still back up to floppies?
The Race Card on July 29, 2009 at 4:48 PM
Vitter advocating core conservative values? Hahaha. Has Sanford weighed in yet? Maybe Vitter and Sanford could get together and sing a core conservative values duet.
edshepp on July 29, 2009 at 4:49 PM
You had me at “hello.”
The Race Card on July 29, 2009 at 4:50 PM
My parents took me to church every Wednesday, and twice on Sundays, and yet I still swarped my way across two continents. I however, never lost my respect for the belief system in which I was raised or my parents. I won’t pretend I’m a role model for a good Christian, but I will defend a good Christian.
DFCtomm on July 29, 2009 at 4:50 PM
I’m a Cincinnatian too, and I’m embarrassed about him and I’ve only lived here for six months.
Sorry to our southern comrades.
The problem is certainly the mods in the GOP.
Anybody notice they are averaging like 20 posts per thread over at NewMajority.
Sapwolf on July 29, 2009 at 4:50 PM
FIFY.
But I’m not much of a Neil fan, either.
tsj017 on July 29, 2009 at 4:51 PM
Another Cincinnatian here (work in Cinci, live in West Chester), and I’m with ya. Voinovich is an embarrassment. Which, of course, makes him perfect senatorial material.
tsj017 on July 29, 2009 at 4:53 PM
I dunno. Hendrix loved Dylan [All Along the Watchtower and Like a Rolling Stone]. I get bored with both Dylan and Young.
OhEssYouCowboys on July 29, 2009 at 4:53 PM
How about most underrated? I’m going with Benny Lava.
:-)
Abby Adams on July 29, 2009 at 4:56 PM
Sky of blackness and sorrow ( a dream of life)
Sky of love, sky of tears (a dream of life)
Sky of glory and sadness ( a dream of life)
Sky of mercy, sky of fear ( a dream of life)
Sky of memory and shadow ( a dream of life)
Your burnin wind fills my arms tonight
Sky of longing and emptiness (a dream of life)
Sky of fullness, sky of blessed life
That song is typical. The guy has been a star and millionaire since he was about 22, I think I would have found lots happy and enjoyable things to write about. How about a song called “I’m Laughing All the Way to the Bank Before My Jet to Tahiti Leaves”.
peacenprosperity on July 29, 2009 at 5:01 PM
Even the slowest firing synapses are part of a miraculous creation; the brain is anything but “simplistic.” Perhaps you meant my thought processes lack complexity.
Thank you for including failed grammar in your list of shortcomings.
Granted, your standard of proof is quite low. But I can’t quite glean the connection between your fantasies about me with some “ivy league boys” (sic) and materialism.
I bet that I have never thought as much about what another man wears as you have fantasized about my entire wardrobe.
Here’s some stimuli for ya. My favorite t-shirt says “Sweet Home Alabama.” My favorite jacket is lamb’s wool-lined leather bomber jacket that was worn and owned by John Entwistle. My favorite shoes are my snowboard boots.
The Race Card on July 29, 2009 at 5:01 PM
If Vitter doesn’t win reelection, here’s hoping Stormy Davis (the porn star) does. At least Stormy can put up a good front.
bw222 on July 29, 2009 at 5:04 PM
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