Video: Hawaiian official corroborates Obama COLB … again
posted at 11:36 am on July 28, 2009 by Ed Morrissey
What does it say about the Birther issue when Fox News covers its debunking while CNN continues to stoke the controversy? Yesterday, Dr. Chiyome Fukino issued a second definitive statement that Barack Obama was born in Hawaii, as his Certificate of Live Birth states, after having seen the records in the Department of Health for herself. A second Honolulu newspaper produced a birth announcement for Obama in August 1961 as well:
In an attempt to quash persistent rumors that President Obama was not born in Honolulu on Aug. 4, 1961, Hawaii’s health director reiterated this afternoon that she has personally seen Obama’s birth certificate in the Health Department’s archives.
“I, Dr. Chiyome Fukino, director of the Hawaii State Department of Health, have seen the original vital records maintained on file by the Hawai’i State Department of Health verifying Barrack Hussein Obama was born in Hawaii and is a natural-born American citizen. I have nothing further to add to this statement or my original statement issued in October 2008 over eight months ago….”
On Oct. 31, Fukino originally tried to put an end to the belief among so-called “birthers” that Obama was not born in the United States and thus was ineligible to run for the office of president.
Last July, a Hillary Clinton supporter doing oppo research on Obama dug up a birth announcement in the Honolulu Advertiser from August 1961 that noted Obama’s birth in Hawaii. The Honolulu Star-Bulletin has also found one in its own archives from that month:
Theories that Obama was born abroad abounded during the presidential campaign, even after an official Hawaii birth certificate was produced, along with August 1961 birth notices from two Honolulu newspapers. Numerous lawsuits and emergency appeals were lodged challenging Obama’s eligibility to be president, and all were rebuffed.
People wonder why Obama doesn’t demand that Hawaii release the original records to put an end to the Birther nonsense. The biggest reason? It wouldn’t work. The same people who believe that Obama forged a Certificate of Live Birth twice corroborated by the state that issued it will insist that Obama got someone to forge any new records produced by Hawaii as well. It’s the same reason that having Palin produce her gynecological records won’t satisfy Andrew Sullivan and why producing the phone records from United 93 families to prove that they haven’t been in contact with the supposedly still-alive-but-hiding passengers on the 9/11 flight won’t change Truther minds. The conspiracy theorists have far too much invested in their argument to retreat.
Obama has a valid COLB attesting to his Hawaiian birth, two statements from the state Department of Health explicitly noting his birth in Honolulu, and not one but two contemporaneous reports of his birth there. He’s a natural-born American citizen. I realize that this evidence won’t convince the fringe true believers, but maybe it’s enough to get the rest of America to ignore them to the same extent we ignore the Truthers and the Trig Truthers. Hopefully that will be soon, so we can build conservative credibility to fight the real battles — ObamaCare, cap-and-tax, and other attempts to socialize the American economy.
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Fantastic! Let’s see it now!
darwin on July 28, 2009 at 11:38 AM
The issue is just plain silly. But…when you love conspiracy theories, you aren’t going to be convinced that there’s not a cover-up.
AnninCA on July 28, 2009 at 11:38 AM
Poll, Ed. Time for a poll.
MadisonConservative on July 28, 2009 at 11:38 AM
uh-oh, Where’s Ed Morrissey’s birth certificate, prefarbly in COLB form.
Apologetic California on July 28, 2009 at 11:39 AM
Good job birthers. Instead of talking about the health care debacle, we are talking about this retarded crap.
*claps*
lorien1973 on July 28, 2009 at 11:40 AM
This isn’t even a fun conspiracy theory.
myrenovations on July 28, 2009 at 11:41 AM
moon landing never happened!!!!!
equality on July 28, 2009 at 11:41 AM
Breaking: Reason for Obama BC sealing revealed to be that it lists his race as white, and he suffers from reverse Michael Jackson disease.
MadisonConservative on July 28, 2009 at 11:42 AM
Well that works for me. Next question then is the issue of dual citizenship.
I assume that line is a joke. I’m sure “it wouldn’t work” is not the dominate idea in their minds. Mythbusters doesn’t make shows saying we can investigate this idea but people won’t believe us, or Popular Mechanics didn’t not debunk 9/11 theories because “it wouldn’t work”.
The comparisons to Palin are not legitimate. There is not a constitutional requirement to produce evidence of birthing Trig. Please stop using poor arguments.
And I think BO was born in Hawaii. Or at least it’s very likely.
Spirit of 1776 on July 28, 2009 at 11:42 AM
The newspaper announcement was a fraud. Obama’s mom paid money for that announcement to be printed. 9/11 is also an inside job
equality on July 28, 2009 at 11:42 AM
AMEN!
Chekote on July 28, 2009 at 11:42 AM
I would have hoped that insane conspiracy theories were unique to the left; this shows quite clearly that it affects both sides.
lorien1973 on July 28, 2009 at 11:42 AM
Ah, but she can’t be trusted because she works for the government and Obama does too. Also, keep an eye on that Obama shill Ann Coulter.
Pablo on July 28, 2009 at 11:43 AM
Ed denigrates people who have questions about documents that aren’t acceptable for anyone else to use … again.
Sporty1946 on July 28, 2009 at 11:43 AM
Ask Ed to put up a post on that then. I don’t think Birthers have secret control over what Ed and AP post.
Spirit of 1776 on July 28, 2009 at 11:43 AM
This is a distraction and nothing more. We are not going to wake up one day and hear “Well, it turns out, Barak Obama is not a natural born US citizen and Speaker Pelosi will begin impeachment hearings on Monday”
Its not going to happen. Let it go. Conservatives have the moral and constitutional high ground here, we don’t need to pull bass akwards conspiracy theories out of our backside. That’s the kinda crap liberals pull.
Texas74 on July 28, 2009 at 11:43 AM
“darwin on July 28, 2009 at 11:38 AM”
PRECISELY.
Ed, I’m disappointed in you. u are willing to go chief wiggum on us and say “that’s all the evidence i need!” because someone told you so?!?!??!?!
/show the certif.
//and the apps., and the passports.
///as always, it’s the continued stonewalling that feeds the fire …
Buckaroo on July 28, 2009 at 11:43 AM
How can his birth be verified if the records were destroyed?
I don’t think it makes much difference either way, but Uhbama doesn’t exactly seem to be….I don’t know….honest! Or transparent for that matter!
Vanbasten on July 28, 2009 at 11:44 AM
We have a “bingo”…
The birfers will never be convinced.
Ain’t they special?
JetBoy on July 28, 2009 at 11:44 AM
A cospirancy is a conspiracy. It has nothing to do with Constitutional requirements. Ed was right in comparing the two. Both are baseless. Both make their proponents look nutty.
Chekote on July 28, 2009 at 11:44 AM
“lorien1973 on July 28, 2009 at 11:40 AM”
some of us can walk and chew gum at the same time, moron …
Buckaroo on July 28, 2009 at 11:44 AM
The media is covering it. That’s all that matters. Conservatives were doing great getting a message out about healthcare and the porkulus. Since they had birther-tards to latch onto, they chose that instead – cuz it favors democrats. See how that works? Self inflicted wounds.
Good job, birthers.
*claps*
lorien1973 on July 28, 2009 at 11:44 AM
Obama is an illegal alien. An alien from Mars not Mexico
equality on July 28, 2009 at 11:45 AM
What I don’t understand is, this controversy would go away tomorrow if only Obama would resign the Presidency and somehow hand the office to Sarah Palin.
And yet, he won’t do it.
YYZ on July 28, 2009 at 11:45 AM
BRAVO!
Chekote on July 28, 2009 at 11:45 AM
I don’t think the issue is King Hussein’s birth. Yes, sadly, he was spawned on our shores.
But when his dad took him to Indonesia, he had to become an Indonesian citizen (and convert to Islam I might add) in order to live and go to school there. So the issue is did he ever renounce his Indonesian citizenship when he moved back here. THAT is the question, people.
J.J. Sefton on July 28, 2009 at 11:45 AM
how much money did Bush pay the 4th 9/11 hijacker?
equality on July 28, 2009 at 11:46 AM
Oh, no. The left loves birthers. Obama loves birthers. They’ll be more than happy to give every last one of them a mike and some face time. Meanwhile, they’ll be cramming through Obama-care, cap and trade, etc…
You know what would be a great idea? Let’s let them destroy America while we demand MORE legal proof of birth.
Pablo on July 28, 2009 at 11:46 AM
The media can’t. And it’ll choose to cover this, instead of rational opposition to things that matter – you like, like healthcare and socialism.
So congratulate yourself on taking real cogent opposition to Obama off the networks.
lorien1973 on July 28, 2009 at 11:46 AM
Why couldn’t the birth announcements in the newspapers have been placed by Barrack’s grandparents? Not because they were trying to hide his foreign birth, but to let their friends on the island know about his birth so they could celebrate with them?
palarson on July 28, 2009 at 11:46 AM
Of all the reasons why this needs to be laid to rest. I think this one says it all.
shick on July 28, 2009 at 11:46 AM
From day one, I’ve thought the only possible thing that the birth certificate could be worth is to show that his religion was “muslim”, which I don’t know would be on the Hawaiian BC or not.
I with the birthers would shift their efforts to “Bill Ayers as Barry’s ghostwriter”, because that is at least interesting and possibly helpful
phreshone on July 28, 2009 at 11:46 AM
Cite?
Pablo on July 28, 2009 at 11:46 AM
Not that I’m on the birther wagon but the hand-wringing about them somehow distracting people from the larger issues is a non-starter.
If “other” Americans are unwilling to face-down Ogabe over his disastrous policies then a bunch of birthers aren’t going to change the dynamic.
I doubt people are saying, “Well you know, those birthers are kinda odd so I’m going to embrace the full scale destruction being offered by President Ogabe.”
Bishop on July 28, 2009 at 11:46 AM
I should have bolded Hillary Clinton.
shick on July 28, 2009 at 11:47 AM
I would believe it. It WOULD work if he released the original.
Again, I don’t care where he was born, I simply have a problem with the secrecy of it all…ALL of his records, not just this one.
I was appalled when the 9.11 truthers started screaming, then I listened to them..brought up good points. I looked into it further and decided they were crazy.
Evidence Works. Telling me I’m insane for questioning the man doesn’t work.
bridgetown on July 28, 2009 at 11:47 AM
This is no longer about Obama’s birth certificate as it is about CNN and the like painting all conservatives as the nut jobs claiming we have a president born outside the U.S.
The dramatizing of coverage is no different than that now-fired correspondent from CNN cherry picking one radical at a tea party of hundreds.
Scranton on July 28, 2009 at 11:47 AM
Ed, this is just plain stupid. You should be ashamed of yourself.
But, good job supporting The Precedent by smearing those of us who understand the Constitution. I think the NYT and Media Matters will be giving you guys more kudos, for this sort of useful idiocy in promoting their agenda. You remind me of those Shamnesty tools who were calling us bigots because they were embarrassed and scared to have to enforce the actual laws of the US.
progressoverpeace on July 28, 2009 at 11:48 AM
The media is trying to change the topic and cast all GOP/conservatives as birthers as a way to discredit oppositon. For, for a few idiots, everyone looks like one. See how it works?
lorien1973 on July 28, 2009 at 11:48 AM
Yeah, but, how do we know that this B. Hussein Obama, is the real B.O.?
Hmmmmm?
With 5 million cases of identity theft each year in the U.S., how do we know that Obama isn’t actually some Commie-Pinko-loving, America hating scum in disguise??????
….never mind.
/ tin-foil hat off.
cntrlfrk on July 28, 2009 at 11:48 AM
I don’t buy it. So Hardball is showing making R’s look stupid. Oh noes!
Is this what Rush is covering day after day? No. Drudge? No.
Relying on MSM to fight MSM’s favorite son is sketchy. And the BC thing is a story. Smart politics? Maybe not, but it is a story, so who can blame media for covering it. I don’t. Wishing the world is different and only reporting on that is what the left likes to do. Selective news is all they gave us on Iraq. Birthers are a story. It only hurts R’s if they line up behind it.
Spirit of 1776 on July 28, 2009 at 11:48 AM
Thank God that an irreproachable government official has spoken on this topic.
If there is anything in the world you can completely trust, it’s a beaurocrat in a liberal state.
notagool on July 28, 2009 at 11:48 AM
It’s been shown, several times.
MarkTheGreat on July 28, 2009 at 11:48 AM
heh
right2bright on July 28, 2009 at 11:48 AM
+10
Rogue on July 28, 2009 at 11:48 AM
So just release a copy the document to Republicans and Democrats…what is so damning about a birth certificate was he born a woman? Easiest way to put the whole thing to bed…so why do they want the birther thing to continue? They want to paint all the opposition as nutty like Ann Coulter suggested?
Dr Evil on July 28, 2009 at 11:48 AM
Lawdy. The Troll Siren went off and they all came out from under their bridges.
kingsjester on July 28, 2009 at 11:49 AM
For the sake of argument, what would happen if it turns out that He was not a natural born citizen?
Does anyone reasonably believe:
1) He would step down
2) Congress would impeach him
3) SCOTUS would invalidate a national election?
Even if it’s true (which it ain’t), nothing would change. I could see a Constitutional Amendment that requires Presidential candidates to “prove beyond the shadow of a doubt” their eligibilty under the Constitution.
Biden takes the oath? Not gonna happen.
BobMbx on July 28, 2009 at 11:49 AM
Won’t matter. Lots of people have dual citizenship. Besides, he was a CHILD. He did not voluntarily renounce his American citizenship. I believe that natural-born refers to people who DO NOT go through a naturalization process to acquire American citizenship. McCain was born in Panama yet he was regarded as natural born because he didn’t have to be naturalized.
Chekote on July 28, 2009 at 11:49 AM
Yep. But this issue grew legs. It shouldn’t have. But it did.
AnninCA on July 28, 2009 at 11:49 AM
“The media can’t.”
that’s their problem, not mine — and just ignore the polls showing opposition to takeovercare growing by the day i suppose. this is our version of rudy’s broken window theory — prosecute EVERYTHING, put them on back foot. FIGHT, not roll over like ed the pawlenty-loving squish suggests …
Buckaroo on July 28, 2009 at 11:50 AM
Exactly.
Spirit of 1776 on July 28, 2009 at 11:50 AM
Maybe this could count as the last definitive thread on the subject so that people can get it out of their systems. Like you said it isn’t going to change anyone’s mind why not just stop writing about it? To continue to write about it while being trumpeted in other publications as the smart conservatives that don’t believe it, is a bit odd. But then again Free Speech for everyone. I am always struck by the sheer number of dedicated people it would take to hide the “truth” in these theories, often generational. It’s not logical.
Cindy Munford on July 28, 2009 at 11:50 AM
No, the biggest reason is that the Birthers make conservatives look like idiots while distracting the nation from the incredible failures of the Obama administration. You can bet that Obama wants this nonsense to continue more than anything, and you can bet that the media will help make it happen.
Caiwyn on July 28, 2009 at 11:50 AM
There is also not a constitutional requirement to produce evidence of natural born citizenship.
Pablo on July 28, 2009 at 11:50 AM
Which CNN? The one that claimed that the original records were destroyed in 2001 and the BC doesn’t exist? That CNN? LOL.
progressoverpeace on July 28, 2009 at 11:50 AM
1) The father has to go through several steps to get British citizenship for his son. There is no evidence that he took any of these steps.
2) Even if it were true, it would be irrelevant.
MarkTheGreat on July 28, 2009 at 11:50 AM
Whether B.O. is a non citizen or not.. he is in the White House now.
How about we all worry about 2010, get some of the slackers out of Congress and the Senate and then get B.O. OUT?
Anyone with me? Bueller?
upinak on July 28, 2009 at 11:50 AM
Just curious….
Why is the birth announcement listed as “Mr. and Mrs. Barack H. Obama?”
Wasn’t the father still in Kenya, and she didn’t want anything to do with him at that point? Serious question – I haven’t been following all the details of this soap opera.
Daggett on July 28, 2009 at 11:50 AM
How is Ed “smearing” you birfers?
You’re doing a good job of burying yourselves without any help. Just don’t take the rest of us sane folk down with you, please.
JetBoy on July 28, 2009 at 11:50 AM
It’s not just hardball. It’s everywhere now.
So, instead of continuing to educate people on obamacare and porkulus, we have house resolutions on COLBs and GOP members having to talk about it in interviews.
So, after a horrible week for Obama, we get a week of bullcrap theories from people who can’t see reality.
lorien1973 on July 28, 2009 at 11:51 AM
Well then the Dan Rather documents must be real too because the people involved said they were.
Skywise on July 28, 2009 at 11:51 AM
Pablo. Shut up.
Stephen M on July 28, 2009 at 11:51 AM
or that they won’t notice that they are unemployed, uninsured and broke
runner on July 28, 2009 at 11:51 AM
Actually it is going on tour, starting in Seattle, and moving down the west coast.
The bus will hit all the major cities, and will culminate at the Smithsonian, sometime in the fall.
“THE MAGICAL BIRTH CERTIFICATE” tour will start in just a couple of weeks, look for the news in your local paper…Salt Lake City will be ignored.
right2bright on July 28, 2009 at 11:51 AM
The COLB is one thing but newspaper announcements are meaningless as evidence of anything one way or the other. I’m tired of seeing them being waved by Obama supporters around as if they are all that is needed to make this thing go away.
The really interesting thing to me is that this story has re-emerged. Were the filthy liar still the popular cool President he was in January, would this story be making news? I tend to think that this is just one way of many people are expressing a desire for a do-over from last November’s election.
highhopes on July 28, 2009 at 11:51 AM
As I said before, at this point I don’t care whether he was born here or not. My problem is that he doesn’t ACT like an American citizen. Too much apologizing and blaming his country for my taste. The guy is trying to remake us into some other country!
Lets just get the idjit out of office in 2012 okay?!
KickandSwimMom on July 28, 2009 at 11:51 AM
What better way to demonize your opponent than to let them roll around in fantasy land? Why would you stop your enemy from hurting himself?
Tactically, it’s a good move (for him) not to release the document.
BobMbx on July 28, 2009 at 11:52 AM
Spot on! It is all about making conservatives look silly. I hope Limbaugh realizes this and joins Ed Morrissey in putting this nonsense to rest.
Chekote on July 28, 2009 at 11:52 AM
So, where is the birth certificate?
I love how you say that if we see it we won’t believe it.
We believe McCains because it was reviewed by a legal body.
This was reviewed by a Obama crony! Sorry if I don’t trust socialist liars.
This has been one of my favorite sites for years now. I am getting extremly annoyed at how you guys just roll over and accept what the media tells you, even when you can varify that it’s not acurate. Allah even posted that it was destroyed, really, not if someone claims to have seen it. Where is the accuracy Ed?
So I guess some newspaper reports at the time seal the conroversy? Nope, not quite.
I agree, fight the big battles like crap-and-tax, socialist agenda, but find out the truth about the certificate, stop writing us off as lunitics. We have valid arguments, why spend hundreds of thousands of dollers to keep it sealed?
He is not just trying to ignore this, he is trying to keep it sealed. If he has a birth certificate SHOW IT!
sd78 on July 28, 2009 at 11:52 AM
Good job, Ed. One hopes that this will put much of this theory to rest. Yeah, triumph of hope over experience…
The tribalism of politics leads people to believe strange things.
SteveMG on July 28, 2009 at 11:52 AM
George Washington never existed. He was a myth created by a conspiracy of Jewish elders who wanted to control “the narrative”.
rickyricardo on July 28, 2009 at 11:53 AM
LOL! Love it!
Chekote on July 28, 2009 at 11:53 AM
That’s only partly true. The requirement is implied in verified as a candidate (which is a responsibility of the individual states).
I agree, though, that post-election, yes there is no constitutional mandate to produce the document.
Spirit of 1776 on July 28, 2009 at 11:53 AM
Don’t you have a myspace page to worship obama on? scoot away little one.
upinak on July 28, 2009 at 11:53 AM
The first lynching in 50 years?
LimeyGeek on July 28, 2009 at 11:53 AM
Sure, that’s easy for you to say….you have Sarah, the lower
4860 has Obama…right2bright on July 28, 2009 at 11:53 AM
Not helping the conspiracy when they misspell his name.
Enoxo on July 28, 2009 at 11:53 AM
He was f’n 5 years old at the time. Even if he did “renounce” his citizenship, it wouldn’t count.
MarkTheGreat on July 28, 2009 at 11:53 AM
So I assume you doubt the citizenship of everyone in Hawaii, yes? Or maybe everyone who lives in a blue state?
lorien1973 on July 28, 2009 at 11:53 AM
Would you accept it as legitimate? Seriously.
rickyricardo on July 28, 2009 at 11:54 AM
No official certificate was produced, unless you mean the one on a 1977 form that was incomplete. And anyone can phone in a “live borth” to a newspaper.
Which is the most logical?
A.) If we showed you the real birth certificate you wouldn’t believe us anyway.
B.) We won’t show you the birth certificate because you wouldn’t believe us anyway?
C.) Here’s the real birth certificate; case closed.
Akzed on July 28, 2009 at 11:54 AM
Yes, I see how it works every single day of my life.
If we aren’t all birthers, then we are gun-nuts to be grouped with any given criminal who shoots a cop somewhere.
Or we are Bible-thumping yahoos trying to institute a regime of Talibanization.
Or we are bunch of dumb hicks who like to eat the livers of freshly killed deer that we just got done killing with a machine gun.
Like I said, pissing and moaning that birthers are somehow distracting from the message is a non-starter; you and I and every other conservative is automatically crazy in the eyes of the MSM.
Bishop on July 28, 2009 at 11:54 AM
Yes the pool of stories the MSM can cover goes something like this:
Health care
Cap and trade
War on terror
Other serious issues
What do they have in common? The Democrats/liberals lose on every one. So instead, the Birthtards™ make their crap known, and all of a sudden, the MSM has a topic on which we lose.
I wonder which one they’re gonna cover???
Abby Adams on July 28, 2009 at 11:54 AM
anyone figure out those other States yet?
And who said i had Sarah… remember America wanted her, the liberal ragheads were throwing ethics compalints at her. You got Sarah.. now what do you do with her?
upinak on July 28, 2009 at 11:54 AM
This is a distraction. Trying to get Obama on a technicality is stupid and non productive. Nail him for his deeds. (which are more than enough to nail him on)
portlandon on July 28, 2009 at 11:54 AM
You’re both kinda right/wrong.
What is declared in the Constitution is an invariant – a timeless constraint that the prez shall be a natural born citizen.
LimeyGeek on July 28, 2009 at 11:54 AM
Exactly. If only the same amount of time would be spent in developing an agenda to win back Congress and the White House!
Chekote on July 28, 2009 at 11:55 AM
upinak on July 28, 2009 at 11:53 AM
**snort”"Chekote, are you lost? This isn’t an Abortion thread and this isn’t Daily Kos.
kingsjester on July 28, 2009 at 11:55 AM
Yeah, and the D’s suffered from all those house resolutions on the flag, etc. Sorry, I’m not buying the hang-wringing. If GOP is asked about it during interview they can dismiss it. If they can’t turn an interview into making the point they want to make, then they suck. The MSM really says, please tell us something that makes BO look bad.
But that is the other issue, no? Or I’m misunderstanding concerns.
Spirit of 1776 on July 28, 2009 at 11:55 AM
Go back to HHR, Eph. Shalom!
Chekote on July 28, 2009 at 11:55 AM
Nor is it a Palin thread. WTF was this yahoo thinking?
upinak on July 28, 2009 at 11:56 AM
There is only one thing I want to see come of all this nonsense:
There are only two requirements to be eligible to run for the office of the President, and both of those are satisfied with one peice of paper. Let’s put some form of mechanism in place that when one files their intent to run, they show that paper. Just make the formality offical, and this never becomes an issue again.
Heck, they can even make a photo-op of it, a party, what have you, just like when they follow a candidate in when they cast their own ballot on election day.
JamesLee on July 28, 2009 at 11:56 AM
No, this is not supporting Obama, and the suggestion that it is is as foolish as the birtherism. This is a suggestion that we all attack him where he’s vulnerable instead of scoring own goals with ridiculous conspiracy theories.
That you’d even make such a statement is evidence that right wing idiocy is as alive and well as the left wing version. Nice job, Rosie.
Pablo on July 28, 2009 at 11:56 AM
Yeah, it will be led by the “MAGICAL DISAPPEARING HEATH CARE BILL”…then followed by the “MAGICAL DISAPPEARING RATINGS” tour for Obama.
If the birthers continue, they will begin to look as bad as liberals…well never as bad, but they will be likened to them.
right2bright on July 28, 2009 at 11:56 AM
His mother was a US citizen. That fact alone invalidates all other speculations.
MarkTheGreat on July 28, 2009 at 11:56 AM
Truth hurt? Wanna binky?
upinak on July 28, 2009 at 11:56 AM
Birthers are astroturfers.
TinMan13 on July 28, 2009 at 11:56 AM
Pfffft.
Sure, they come up with these documents, but they pale in comparison to this document which definitely proves that there is a conspiracy to cover up Obama’s real place of birth.
Well, proves it to the standards of TV newsmagazine shows, that is…
ExUrbanKevin on July 28, 2009 at 11:56 AM
You would think this would stop the birthers.
Yet, sadly, they will continue.
God help us all.
DanStark on July 28, 2009 at 11:56 AM
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