Frum: History Began When I Decided to Remake Conservatism in My Image
posted at 2:15 pm on July 28, 2009 by Slublog
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In May, while criticizing Rush Limbaugh, David Frum wrote “nobody as central to the left as Limbaugh is central to the right – ever accused either President Bush or Vice President Cheney of wishing to do harm to America.” He was wrong. At the time, I said Frum was either unable to use Google, or “he’s immune to evidence that contradicts his hyperbole.”
Although I’m not generally a fan of David Frum’s writing, I thought his “Quit Whining” essay made some good points on the progress of liberty in the US and around the world since 1975. Although the essay contained some of the hyperbole typical of Frum’s writing, it was a good reminder that not all is lost.
But then Frum published part 2, in which he once again ignores any recent political history that threatens to undermine his ability to lecture the rest of us from his lofty post.
The extremity of conservative pessimism attacks the foundational rules of the American political game. Since 1865, the United States has enjoyed amazing political stability. Americans have achieved this stability via tried and tested rules of the road, including the unquestioning acceptance of election results, an acknowledgement of the basic good faith of the other political party, and an absolute acceptance that people of all points of view are committed to the shared constitutional system.
As is his habit, Frum places the blame for political instability on conservatives. Also, with no sense of apparent irony, Frum outlines what he thinks makes this country’s political system so stable while refusing to even acknowledge what the opposition did for eight years to undermine that stability. I’m not suggesting we copy the left’s playbook, but think it’s unfair for Frum to pretend conservative pessimism is a level of villainy never before seen on the political stage.
…the unquestioning acceptance of election results…
I don’t even know where to start with this one. This seems like a good place.
The protests by the Congressional Black Caucus in 2001 seem like less than ‘unquestioning acceptance’ of the 2000 election results to me.
A more decisive Bush victory in 2004 didn’t stop Democrats who were determined to question Bush’s legitimacy as president.
an acknowledgment of the basic good faith of the other political party, and an absolute acceptance that people of all points of view are committed to the shared constitutional system
“What we have now, however, is the result of decisions taken by a President and an administration for whom the best law is NO law, so long as law threatens to constrain their political will. And where the constraints of law cannot be prevented or eliminated, then they maneuver it to be weakened by evasion, by delay, by hair-splitting, by obstruction, and by failure to enforce on the part of those sworn to uphold the law.” – Al Gore.
Basic good faith? Sure, unless that president’s name is Bush, back in the days when the media paid attention to such things.
If Frum had stopped there, he’d only be guilty of omitting inconvenient history. But no, the promotion of a ‘conservatism that can win again’ demands nothing less than a full-throated defense of the current administration:
As wrong and harmful as the Obama administration’s plans are, the administration is playing by the rules of the game. To agitate people into thinking otherwise is to corrode the foundations of the American constitutional regime.
Is Obama really playing by the rules of the game? There are legitimate criticisms to be made of this administration’s approach to politics. At the risk of shaking the very foundations of our republic:
The Chrysler bankruptcy agreement.
The appointment of un-accountable czars.
The ongoing IG scandal.
The firing of a private company’s CEO.
The suggestion that the president can bypass the senate on treaty ratification.
Surely our democracy can survive the horror that is conservatives asking whether some of these actions are legal or the proper role of a president. After all, we survived eight years of criticism from liberals before this. Why is asking valid questions suddenly off-limits?
Really, though, all you need to know about Frum’s essay is summed up with this sentence:
We should also have more charity to our political opponents – who after all are contending with hideous problems bequeathed to them by … by … well suddenly we Republicans cannot seem to remember who preceded Barack Obama in office.
Here’s a free piece of advice for Mr. Frum: if you’re serious about remaking conservatism, it’s best not to use Obama’s talking points against conservatives. Just a thought.
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Yawn.
alliebobbitt on July 28, 2009 at 2:16 PM
Fantastic article, Slublog.
His assertion that Obama is playing by any rules but his own is insulting to our intelligence.
MadisonConservative on July 28, 2009 at 2:16 PM
Besides being cruel, why does anyone give any time to this no-talent?
Branch Rickey on July 28, 2009 at 2:17 PM
Just record that statement, and play it back after any news regarding the current administration.
Snowed In on July 28, 2009 at 2:19 PM
Lost any interest in what he says a long time ago….
cmsinaz on July 28, 2009 at 2:19 PM
does David Frum have some deal with Hot Air? his every utterance warrants a post over here. He is a one-trick pony. he thinks he’s the official guardian angel for Republicans. he claims to be a conservative but writes 90% of the time on what he doesn’t like about the Republicans.
Quit giving him the views, he doesn’t deserve it. I’m sick and tired of these beltway know nothing snobs.
exceller on July 28, 2009 at 2:20 PM
He’s a walking/talking/writing gaffe. The more he writes, the less people listen. Keep it up Frum.
AUINSC on July 28, 2009 at 2:21 PM
BirthersElectionersSouthernGent on July 28, 2009 at 2:21 PM
Frum was never a conservative and is not changing his position at all. The Unconservative Frum was considered a shining example of conservatism because of his support for the Iraq war. Now the Iraq war is no longer a factor and conservatives seriously oppose Obama’s spending in a way that they did not seriously oppose spending like ‘No Child Left Behind’, Frum appears to be at odds with the conservative movement. But Frum himself is no different now than he was 10 years ago.
aengus on July 28, 2009 at 2:21 PM
Conservatism has been remade in his image. He and Bill Kristol and Cheney. Weren’t they behind the Bush?
The Dean on July 28, 2009 at 2:22 PM
As a blogger, Frum is about as exciting as The Food Network, and a lot less useful. If he seriously wants to debate his stupid ideas, he better sign up at HotAir (suggested user name: Frumpy!) and start working the room.
As a pundit, he’s about as important to the debate as David Freddoso. Nobody cares, Dave, and you’re not bright enough to move the debate.
Jaibones on July 28, 2009 at 2:22 PM
Does anyone remember when David Frum was relevant? Nah, me neither.
TheWasteLand on July 28, 2009 at 2:24 PM
Frum got his a$$ kicked by the cross dressing dance majors in college, right?
PimFortuynsGhost on July 28, 2009 at 2:24 PM
Maybe Frum was trying to be more funny.
Upstater85 on July 28, 2009 at 2:25 PM
Good points. I cannot understand his (and other’s) selective consideration of (even recent) history. What drives them to change conservatism seems so much more personal than practical/pragmatic or wise.
Speaking more superficially: Frum is a dreadful last name.
Mommypundit on July 28, 2009 at 2:26 PM
This oxygen thief long ago squandered his credibility. He belongs in the same pathetic category as Peggy Noonan.
OhioCoastie on July 28, 2009 at 2:26 PM
He’s canadian, ain’t he?
LtE126 on July 28, 2009 at 2:27 PM
That seems like such a relative phrase… yes, perhaps compared to say Bosnia or say Argentina, but something tells me Frum wasn’t a flower power kid and that he would probably would have taken up the Communist “witch” hunts.
Upstater85 on July 28, 2009 at 2:28 PM
Frum serves as a reminder of what true conservatism is up against. He is splitting the party.
Rose on July 28, 2009 at 2:28 PM
I couldn’t of said it better myself.Enough with this clown.
Jeff from WI on July 28, 2009 at 2:29 PM
+1
Frum is one of the many people who has never been conservative, but was briefly Republican because of the Iraq War or 9/11 or something similar. Like Charles Johnson, Frum is a loon in every respect save a brief moment in which he intersected with those icky, icky conservatives.
Lehosh on July 28, 2009 at 2:31 PM
A desperate struggle for relevance.
guntotinglibertarian on July 28, 2009 at 2:31 PM
Naw… at best he’s peeling away his extended family…
Upstater85 on July 28, 2009 at 2:31 PM
Guess that’s what happens when you place your bets on the Bush Pony.
Upstater85 on July 28, 2009 at 2:32 PM
David Frum looks like a pedo.
Apologetic California on July 28, 2009 at 2:32 PM
Maybe Rod Dreher or Conor Friedersdorf can chime in and defend their “friend” Frum, and make it an effete-”conservative” threesome? I mean, after they clean themselves from Levin’s tearing them new bungholes.
Nice piece Slu.
PimFortuynsGhost on July 28, 2009 at 2:32 PM
Compassionate Conservatism seemed like such a great idea at the time.
Mainly because, with only two words and that nice alliteration, even single moms could kinda understand it.
guntotinglibertarian on July 28, 2009 at 2:33 PM
Frum is only interesting as he leads the so called New Majority. Too many GOP electeds and hopefuls have gathered under his banner, and lend legitimacy to the moderate, unConservative movement to move the GOP left. I am not a chicken little here, but people need to figure this out, see it in action and realize the consequences.
Frum needs to be exposed, as well as those who belong to the NM. Until real Conservatives understand this group they will have an insidious impact on both the GOP and politics in general.
InTheBellyoftheBeast on July 28, 2009 at 2:35 PM
Someone wants to be invited to a steak dinner at the White House.
Good little closet liberal.
Bishop on July 28, 2009 at 2:36 PM
Excellent piece, Slu! There’s nothing more annoying that watching someone decide history only flows in one direction, and try to get out in front of it. There’s nothing sadder than watching a guy like Frum try to make surrender seem like a heroic act.
Doctor Zero on July 28, 2009 at 2:36 PM
… not to worry… There are sure to be some GOP front runners that will give us phrases like
“Democratic Conservatives”
…
Upstater85 on July 28, 2009 at 2:36 PM
Frum wrote this? How did this get past the censor? Obama is wrong? Obama’s plans are hurtful?
thhhuuuummmp (sound of my head impacting my desk)
Looks like Frum is off C. Matthews’ gift list for Christmas…
ps: Is it still legal to say “Christmas”?
BobMbx on July 28, 2009 at 2:36 PM
Frum, Noonan, Brooks and Kathleen Parker should join hands in a circle and sing John Lennon tunes.
whitetop on July 28, 2009 at 2:36 PM
All the more reason to push for candidates that might actually think about such issues…
Upstater85 on July 28, 2009 at 2:37 PM
First these people like Frum and others are not conservatives.I wish Hotair and other sites would refrain from calling them conservative.They be fools, A**holes and all around elite jerks but not conservatives.Words do not make one a conservative actions do.I guess i could call myself the King of England but that would be only words.These wash up jerks should be disregarded like yesterdays trash.
thmcbb on July 28, 2009 at 2:37 PM
… on Huckabee’s show.
Upstater85 on July 28, 2009 at 2:38 PM
Another failure of public education on exhibition. Sad, really. But we need these reminders now and then.
beatcanvas on July 28, 2009 at 2:38 PM
Eventually, a triumphant conservatism or at least a conservatism on the rise might make use of people like Frum, but Frum himself seems to be going out of his way to make himself toxic.
CK MacLeod on July 28, 2009 at 2:39 PM
Geez, you’d think he would at least hold out for a ride on Air Force One.
Sad to see a guy who once stood cheek to jowl with power descend to such a cheap wh**e.
guntotinglibertarian on July 28, 2009 at 2:39 PM
Even though he had his flaws, I wish this generation had a Buckley (not the son, nothing against him…). Where’re our Friedman’s?
*slinking off to corner*
Upstater85 on July 28, 2009 at 2:40 PM
Frum tries too hard to be relevant. If he put as much effort into taking down the liberalism strangling the country as he does strangling the Republican party…..
portlandon on July 28, 2009 at 2:40 PM
David David David.
You were for a while a reasonably sane voice and I even gave you the benefit of doubt on Palin (I disagreed but you never decended into the caddiness of others in deriding her). What you are proposing for conservatism will work for coastal states which tend blue–and that is fine. I would rather a moderate Republican winning there than a radical Democrat. But as a national framework? You are just wrong. I do not dispute civility in the Ronald Reagan mode is a good idea, but so is principaled conservatism.
Gay marriage is not a hill Republicans or Democrats want to die on, nor will they. It will morph around for a while and eventually it will exist in some states and not others. I doubt there is a consensus for extending federal tax and social security rights to married gays anytime soon. I would vote for gays marrying myself, I just do not want to see it forced on us by courts.
So getting beyond that issue, I do not consider a pro life, smaller and less government, lower taxs, more states rights/federalism, pro guns, and pro strong defense a bad core set of beliefs. I believe it to the be the best set of beliefs for a conservative leaning party.
Mr. Joe on July 28, 2009 at 2:40 PM
When Palin wins she’ll relegate Frum to the dust bin.
darwin on July 28, 2009 at 2:41 PM
This guy’s conservative? By which definition again? Oh..yeah the MSM’s – see a conservative is anyone just barely to the right of the MSM who will criticize real conservatives for money (ie. appearance fees on MSM “news” shows) – you know like Megan McCain. In truth, he’s a liberal fop pretending to be conservative and cashing in big time. The funny thing is that he thinks he’s somehow relevant when the truth is he’s a total bozo. The joke is on him.
johnnybgood on July 28, 2009 at 2:42 PM
You can move King Squishie posts down and put up his ugly mug, but I still won’t click
corona on July 28, 2009 at 2:43 PM
Frum… perfect for a South Park episode.
Upstater85 on July 28, 2009 at 2:44 PM
I loathe this Frum more with every word he pens.
Midas on July 28, 2009 at 2:45 PM
I can tell just by looking at him that I don’t care what he thinks.
moonsbreath on July 28, 2009 at 2:45 PM
Very good, Slublog. There is nothing “foundational” about the federal warthog. Our representatives were meant to represent their individual states. Now they are supposed to represent all the states. Hogwash on that. Time for folks to re-stake the claim to their own backyard.
Limerick on July 28, 2009 at 2:47 PM
Frum, Parker, Graham, Powell, and the McCain family could form a new party…
Motto: Apathetic towards liberty. Empathetic towards the welfare state.
Upstater85 on July 28, 2009 at 2:49 PM
On one hand, I have faith in the American people to put a stop to all of Obama’s crap before it gets too far out of hand. On the other, I think that in 10 years this isn’t going to be a good country anymore.
Is that conservative pessimism?
Dark Star on July 28, 2009 at 2:51 PM
Frumm’s continued appearance on MSNBC tell you everything you need to know about him. He enjoys currying favor with the Left. Somthing tells me that he did not hang out with the cool kids in high school and now craves attention over being right.
DrW on July 28, 2009 at 2:51 PM
The kindest thing I can say about Frum is that he appears to have his head firmly planted up his own ass.
GarandFan on July 28, 2009 at 2:52 PM
I suppose Frum would welcome the barbarians with tea and crumpets.
ICBM on July 28, 2009 at 2:53 PM
And her pundit-y admirers?
Stephen M on July 28, 2009 at 2:54 PM
… actually, that does sound like Frum Neo-conservatism… Frum could teach the barbarians how to drink the tea… make the world a better place, mankind!
Upstater85 on July 28, 2009 at 2:55 PM
I’m wondering the same thing. It was KP for a while, then MMac, and the occasional Rod Dehrer thrown in.
Frum is a broken record, “Conservatives suck. I’m great. Everyone should listen to & follow me. Conservatives suck.”
conservative pilgrim on July 28, 2009 at 2:55 PM
Delusions of grandeur almost as bad as O-bam-bam’s.
viking01 on July 28, 2009 at 2:57 PM
Why are we giving this idiot the time of day? It’s pretty obvious that people like Frum, Noonan, McCain(Meghan), and Parker are ashamed of their beliefs. They apparently missed the poll that showed 40% of the country is conservative and they’ve allowed themselves to be convinced by the media that everyone thinks loves Obama and holds the same political ideology.
So in order to atone for their sins, they use every column and TV appearance to bash the GOP, Sarah Palin, and conservatism. Because that’ll show the media elites that they’re different. They’re not like those hicks from flyover country who cling to guns and religion and have a disdain for big government.
The best approach with these losers is to ignore them. Not just because they come off as smug and arrogant, but because they serve no purpose to anybody. Think about it. They clearly hate the GOP and other conservatives. Yet they refuse to cross over to the other side and declare themselves Democrats or libs. Which leaves them in that political wasteland known as Independentville. And the only time anyone ever gives a rat’s ass what those idiots think is during an election year.
Doughboy on July 28, 2009 at 2:57 PM
I bet there’s not any normal people in Houston that give a wingwangdoo about David Frum or his notions. Must be an east coast thing. But hey SluBlog thanks for keeping score on his hypocrisy and all.
DanMan on July 28, 2009 at 2:58 PM
Because it’s automatically appended to the end of your comment.
See?
Snowed In on July 28, 2009 at 3:04 PM
Frum is a total fraud. He may be a Republican, but there’s nothing conservative about him. His goal is to move the GOP to the left (with the delusion that there are millions of moderates and liberals ready to climb aboard).
Frum is the most divisive person in the GOP. He is a favorite of liberal networks because they know he will trash Palin, Limbaugh, Levine and other true conservatives and show divisions in the GOP.
True conservatives despise Frum as much as Obama.
bw222 on July 28, 2009 at 3:04 PM
AP posts Frum because its the fastest route to Chubby McCain’s….ummm..overalls?????
WhatsRight on July 28, 2009 at 3:05 PM
If you watch Frum on TV you can see the sheer delight he takes in ripping certain Republicans. He can barely contain his derision. I despise the guy because he’s a phony.
exceller on July 28, 2009 at 3:07 PM
MegMac is Frum in Drag!
Upstater85 on July 28, 2009 at 3:09 PM
All the more reason to push for candidates that might actually think about such issues…
Upstater85 on July 28, 2009
And stop voting for the (R), just because. Demand conservative bona fides or tell them where to go.
SKYFOX on July 28, 2009 at 3:14 PM
FRUM = RHINO DOUCHE
SmallGovtGuy on July 28, 2009 at 3:17 PM
Wow… I thought Graham used an enema… but if you want to call it a douche.
Upstater85 on July 28, 2009 at 3:19 PM
MegMac is Chris Farley BEFORE you add water!!!
WhatsRight on July 28, 2009 at 3:21 PM
OzyFrumdias. Look upon my works ye mighty and despair!
What are you going to do? Bleed on me?
The Black Knight always triumphs!
viking01 on July 28, 2009 at 3:24 PM
Don’t blame Frum, blame the folks who drive him around town.
Until we break the MSM headlock on information we can’t break Frum.
Limerick on July 28, 2009 at 3:24 PM
Frum continues to get emasculated by the Dems.
in related news, I saw “The Stoning..” over the weekend. Its a movie Feminist should be championing, instead they are too busy destroying Sarah Palin and telling her to get back in the Kitchen to much care
jp on July 28, 2009 at 3:30 PM
agree, the Palin argument is about a whole lot more than Politics and Palin herself.
We have absolutely got to change the MSM, I just don’t know how. I consider some of them direct Enemies of the State, and should be dealt with accordingly.
jp on July 28, 2009 at 3:31 PM
the Frum, MaggieMac crowd HATE Conservatives! They are embarrassed by us. Their idea of “comprimise” is to agree w/ the left so the left will “like” us! Nothing new…and it will fail!
WhatsRight on July 28, 2009 at 3:35 PM
The Henry Louis Gates, Jr. of the faux conservatives.
wraithby on July 28, 2009 at 3:37 PM
Now I know why I don’t see this guy hanging around on Fox News.
Wonder if he’s buds with Scott McClellan and Meghan McCain?
Dr. ZhivBlago on July 28, 2009 at 3:43 PM
I always find it interesting that the Democrats seem to forget who was in charge of Congress from 2006 onward.
The party led by Nancy Botox? Oh, right. Hmmm.
bradley11 on July 28, 2009 at 3:44 PM
Its a good response to Frum, but honestly, is he worth the time? He’s burned all existing and even all potential bridges to conservatives and therefore has zilch influence over the conservative audience. As everyone must by now recognize, he’s gone over to the other side, and as Whigs, Dems and Socialists go, he is way down at the bottom of the pecking order. Give him the same treatment you give Andrew Sullivan and “Cancer” Brooks. Ignore them
james23 on July 28, 2009 at 3:46 PM
America 101. Republicans ended their control of Congress on bad terms, but nothing compares to the way things were handled after 2006. -GW definitely helped out where he could, but deserves nowhere near the blame as our directly elected leaders in Congress.
simon on July 28, 2009 at 3:47 PM
Remember, David Frum’s mother was Barbara Frum. Barbara Frum was and still is considered a CBC icon. The CBC is left of Fidel Castro. David Frum was immersed in lefty propoganda from childhood.
This man is not a Republican. What you are witnessing right now is the true David Frum. He is a hardcore lefty masquerading as a Republican.
Cut him loose right now before he cause serious damage to the Republican Party!
RMR on July 28, 2009 at 3:47 PM
Jack#ss,oh wait,thats a Liberal mascot!!
canopfor on July 28, 2009 at 3:53 PM
Small steps. Roesgen went down in flames. That’s a good start. It’ll help to directly take on members of the media in the same manner that people went after their elected representatives recently at those town halls.
Doughboy on July 28, 2009 at 4:03 PM
Slublog, good points.
Article II.
maverick muse on July 28, 2009 at 4:06 PM
Frum needs to enjoy a nice, steaming hot mug of STFU.
quax1 on July 28, 2009 at 4:13 PM
DICC; enough said.
chemman on July 28, 2009 at 4:15 PM
Good point check out Frums’s late mother’s interview with Margaret Thatcher on the CBC website. Maggie slices and dices this “legendary” broadcaster. I expect her son is a soft Leftist much like his mom.
wraithby on July 28, 2009 at 4:15 PM
A man has to be a jerk with a last name like Frum.
Percy_Peabody on July 28, 2009 at 4:24 PM
Just assign Frum liberal status and start ignoring him as background noise.
Nancy needs a new dildo, she can use Frum’s head.
Spiritk9 on July 28, 2009 at 5:04 PM
Ever wonder why Frum, Parker & Noonan are regular guests on MSNBC only? Let me spell it out : R I N O – S W I N E S
Norwegian on July 28, 2009 at 5:46 PM
You should hear Levin rip this jerk a new one on his show yesterday. Classic Levin
MyImamToldMeToDoIt on July 28, 2009 at 6:19 PM
Frum:
Thank you. Shut up.
Red Cloud on July 28, 2009 at 6:20 PM
This guy: Who Cares ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
Jeff from WI on July 28, 2009 at 6:22 PM
Excellent post and you achieved what I didn’t think possible which is for Frum to look like a bigger tool than he did on Mark Levin’s show. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DDAcz3KpcQ
Isn’t this guy a Canadian too? Not that I have anything against Canadians, but the fact that he’s trying to be the voice of the GOP makes him a jackass of a special breed.
Renwaa on July 28, 2009 at 6:27 PM
+9999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999
corona on July 28, 2009 at 8:32 PM
Maybe Frum is right. Also, maybe we could persuade McCain to run again in 2012, with Lieberman as VP. If we want to save conservatism that is.
waelse1 on July 28, 2009 at 11:31 PM
seriously, I don’t care what Frum said. I think responding to him gives him way more credit than he deserves.
topspin67 on July 29, 2009 at 1:10 AM
As attested to by the lack of interest in the comment section, who the f#ck is David Frum and why should anyone give a sh!t why some sonctimonoius self serving prick has to say who can only gets airtime for being willing to trash palin and rush and can barely sell 5000 copies of his mendacious crap of a book.
Even Joe the Plumber has more cultural impact.
Even the twinkie Mehgan McCain just ate has more substance.
Seriously, David Frum?
LOL.
What is he a glorified Blogger?
Andrew SUllivan’s Right of Left Twin Brother with Hair?
I mean seriously…David Frum…erm…nobody.
BillaryMcBush on July 29, 2009 at 2:02 AM
Mehgan McCain/ David Frum ‘12
“Yes We Can Too!”
BillaryMcBush on July 29, 2009 at 2:03 AM
As attested to by the lack of interest in the comment section, who the f#ck is David Frum and why should anyone give a sh!t why some sonctimonoius self serving pr#ck has to say who can only gets airtime for being willing to trash palin and rush and can barely sell 5000 copies of his mendacious crap of a book.
Even Joe the Plumber has more cultural impact.
Even the twinkie Mehgan McCain just ate has more substance.
Seriously, David Frum?
LOL.
What is he a glorified Blogger?
Andrew Sullivan’s Right of Left Twin Brother with Hair?
BillaryMcBush on July 29, 2009 at 2:05 AM
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