Video: MoveOn launches new energy campaign targeting noted private citizen

posted at 7:14 pm on July 27, 2009 by Allahpundit

Don’t be too hard on them. Political action groups thrive on demagoging “villains” and none more so than the MoveOn kids. Remember, this is the gang that once used the language of treason to describe the man who saved Iraq. What do you expect them to do in a post-Bush era, go positive?

Hey, remember when MoveOn cared about kids having to pay off a president’s trillion-dollar deficits? Good times, good times.

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Do the guys wearing hard hats to install a dippy solar panel look goofy to anyone else?

thebrokenrattle on July 27, 2009 at 8:20 PM

Ooooh, scary.

Seixon on July 27, 2009 at 8:31 PM

It’s ironic that this group is named Move On when they seem to lack the ability to live up to their name.

mizflame98 on July 27, 2009 at 8:33 PM

Wind power. LOL

LibTired on July 27, 2009 at 8:36 PM

Can someone be both stupid and a villain? Seems like they would have to pick one or the other and run with it.

Cindy Munford on July 27, 2009 at 7:20 PM

Not the leftie moonbats. They couldn’t explain how Bush could be a combination of Forrest Gump and Carlos the Jackal, but they sold Bush that way for 8 years.

mizflame98 on July 27, 2009 at 8:39 PM

LMAO

They spent money on that ad? EPIC FAIL

BPD on July 27, 2009 at 8:40 PM

You know how in anti ads, they always find a really bad picture of the person to use? Must be there aren’t any bad pictures of Sarah. She looks pretty good!

huckleberryfriend on July 27, 2009 at 8:41 PM

Do the guys wearing hard hats to install a dippy solar panel look goofy to anyone else?

thebrokenrattle on July 27, 2009 at 8:20 PM

I was going to say that too. ha ha

Dollayo on July 27, 2009 at 8:41 PM

MoveOn ONLY attacks American heros.

Petraeus … Palin … Rush

You’ll never see them attack David Frum.

FACT.

HondaV65 on July 27, 2009 at 8:43 PM

I’m a Palinista for life.

And I’m proud of it.

lansing quaker on July 27, 2009 at 8:48 PM

You Palinistas are thinking too highly of the Dems. They are attacking her because she didn’t bow and scrape herself to the royal Obamajesty like McCain did. It has nothing to do with fearing her or not. They just feel their black Jesus has been disrespected in regards to his “community organizing” etc. so they must make her pay.

Speedwagon82 on July 27, 2009 at 9:03 PM

Cool. Drawing the fear and interest like that from MoveOn confirms that Sarah is the silver bullet that will slay the Alinsky Marxist.

She is doing something right.

Sapwolf on July 27, 2009 at 9:07 PM

You know what would make the add laughable?

Substitute Mitt Romney in place of Sarah.

Sapwolf on July 27, 2009 at 9:10 PM

Do the guys wearing hard hats to install a dippy solar panel look goofy to anyone else?

thebrokenrattle on July 27, 2009 at 8:20 PM

And they are so nice and clean too. Anyone know a construction crew that does any kind of install work that goes to a job site looking like they stepped out of a sears catalog? I’ll bet a hundred bucks that if someone can track down the guys in the picture and ask them how to install a solar panel they would not have a clue. Actors in a set up shot.

MikeA on July 27, 2009 at 9:15 PM

(NOT THAT IT REALLY MATERS ANY: CO2 IS BENIGN.)

reliapundit on July 27, 2009 at 8:01 PM

To be fair, there’s more to “dirty energy” and environmental degradation than CO2.

ernesto on July 27, 2009 at 9:22 PM

Imagine you are a Move-On.Org type. You love sushi and Kobe beef, but go all jelly-in-the-knees at the thought of actually having to fish, hunt, or otherwise get your hands dirty putting it on the table. You get by telling yourself that you’ve ‘evolved’ past all that. Then here comes this chick from Alaska — Alaska of all places — rubbing your nose in your own inadequacies with her very existence.

Is it any surprise they despise her?

CaptFlood on July 27, 2009 at 9:23 PM

Being we’ve kicked MoveOn’s arse in the field of late, Sarah is more than happy to join the Tea Party movement. We need a face and a voice to represent all us ‘rightwing extremists’; she’ll do as a starter.

michaelo on July 27, 2009 at 9:25 PM

Do the guys wearing hard hats to install a dippy solar panel look goofy to anyone else?

thebrokenrattle on July 27, 2009 at 8:20 PM

Uh, heard of OSHA? A few more weeks of the COC (Community Organizer in Chief) and the other usual suspects, and we’ll yearn for the easy days of over-regulation instead of hyper-regulation.
In other words, you ain’t seen nothing yet!

Amendment X on July 27, 2009 at 9:55 PM

Anybody see Frank Luntz on Sean’s show tonight?

He thinks she is already running for POTUS in 2012.

She should secretly show up as a private citizen to protest the government in DC on 9/12.

Sapwolf on July 27, 2009 at 9:57 PM

Does anyone realize how inefficient solar power is at this point? My husband is in the industry that supplies technology; no one is spending because it’s only 18% efficient. So a green homeowner would apply for a gov. grant for solar panels, then also have to use conventional for 82% of the power.

Babyhugger on July 27, 2009 at 10:15 PM

It’s ironic that this group is named Move On when they seem to lack the ability to live up to their name.

mizflame98 on July 27, 2009 at 8:33 PM

Truer words were never spoken.

Sugarbuzz on July 27, 2009 at 10:21 PM

The only thing that ad proved is that there is no such thing as a bad picture of Sarah Palin.

CarolynM on July 27, 2009 at 10:24 PM

Those guys with helmets on the roof were a group of Democrats. You know, girly-men

Jeff from WI on July 27, 2009 at 10:30 PM

So George Soros and his sick bunch of “green men” are afraid of Sarah Palin? Keep spending your money on these stupid commercials.

yoda on July 27, 2009 at 10:45 PM

So Soros dispatched his Nazi cyber stormtroopers? Target practice for Sarah. Set em up, shoot em down.

RandyChandler on July 27, 2009 at 10:53 PM

WTH??? That really made no sense. What were those two Libtard posers with the solar panel even trying to do with it? Just hold it and stare at it longingly?

Dr. ZhivBlago on July 27, 2009 at 11:18 PM

If MoveOn wants to be stupid enough to compare Palin’s views on energy policy with Obama’s, let them go right ahead.

ddrintn on July 27, 2009 at 11:40 PM

I hope it was obvious that I was being sarcastic, I forgot the tag.

Cindy Munford on July 27, 2009 at 7:41 PM

Absolutely. I understood perfectly. I just couldn’t resist.

SouthernGent on July 27, 2009 at 11:48 PM

Lame. Fail.

This is as pathetic as the victory laps lefties are doing about every GOP politician caught with a chippie, as if it’s the first time a guy has ever had his weasel greased. Lame.

Sekhmet on July 27, 2009 at 11:57 PM

If they had a picture of a nuclear plant at the end there, maybe they would have something. A WINDMILL? YGBSM (look up “Wild Weasels” for that one.

My dad’s family had a wind charger back in the early 40′s because electric power hadn’t made it to their location yet. They dumped it in a heartbeat when electricity was available because even in eastern Colorado — the wind doesn’t blow all the time and the batteries eventually discharge.

New campaign slogan: 1930′s Electric Power, Coming to you today!

AZfederalist on July 27, 2009 at 11:59 PM

They said that if George Bush were elected, powerful political groups, funded by millionaires, would go on the attack against private citizens whose views differed from theirs….and they were right!

(H/T Blogfather)

Noocyte on July 27, 2009 at 11:59 PM

Lame

Mallard T. Drake on July 28, 2009 at 12:40 AM

Ha Ha. Seriously?
Sarah FTW!

Buckeye Babe on July 28, 2009 at 1:36 AM

Hey ‘Pundon’t, your intentions are actually back firing! I think the lot of us, given the choice, would actually prefer Palin posts @ hotair. ‘Specially if they’ve got pictures. Gettin’ a little tired of Baraky and his frumpy SoS, know what I mean? So, keep ‘em coming, regardless of your veiled attempts to undermine SPs success.

long_cat on July 28, 2009 at 2:23 AM

Seems like a lot of effort to attack a politically dead, insignificant figure, doesn’t it?

powerpro on July 28, 2009 at 2:26 AM

Do the guys wearing hard hats to install a dippy solar panel look goofy to anyone else?

thebrokenrattle on July 27, 2009 at 8:20 PM

You never know when the sky might fall.

Dasher on July 28, 2009 at 7:05 AM

Does anyone realize how inefficient solar power is at this point? My husband is in the industry that supplies technology; no one is spending because it’s only 18% efficient. So a green homeowner would apply for a gov. grant for solar panels, then also have to use conventional for 82% of the power.

Babyhugger on July 27, 2009 at 10:15 PM

18% efficient solar panels convert 18% of the light hitting them to electricity, and can provide 100% of a buildings power requirements, although it is usually more cost effective to dump excess power into the grid, than store it in batteries.

darktood on July 28, 2009 at 7:36 AM

Why would they spend money on this “moron”?

Interesting. I thought she was a laughingstock.

Go Sarah.

LtE126 on July 28, 2009 at 7:37 AM

As well as using specialize water way generators on fast moving rivers for villages (that won’t really work in the winter due to ice dams).

upinak on July 27, 2009 at 7:38 PM

Ice dams are a spring phenomenon, and the problem is easier to deal with, than thick surface ice.

A oil company tried Solar Panels on their buildings on the slope to be more enviromentally friendly. It didn’t work.. why.. due to lack of sunshine in the winter. hmmmmm

Which one? And they were probably trying to discredit the environmentalists.

Also the fact that an oil company tried those new diesel trucks. Couldn’t make them last because the colder it got, the thicker the bio fuel because until the engines couldn’t take it and died as most trucks on the slope aren’t turned off in the middle of winter due to the cold. The would never start back up. The Oil company sent them back to the dealership saying never again and asked for regular diesel trucks.

All diesel thickens when cooled, even winter weight fuels. Bio diesel does not need special engines. It is a direct replacement for regular summer weight diesel.

Oh and those nice wind turbines sieze at -10. The oil doesn’t like the wind chill… or something. Still need fuel oil it seems.

The problem was solved by modifying the oil cooler, and adding heating to the nacelle.

Yep.. great ideas!

upinak on July 27, 2009 at 7:51 PM

Slander does not help our cause.

darktood on July 28, 2009 at 8:21 AM

Ooooo, Move On You Stinky Lunatic You’re Nauseating Me.org is having a tantrum . . .

Who really cares what these jackasses think about anything?

Any right thinking individual will know any side MoveOn takes, argues for the other side.

NoDonkey on July 28, 2009 at 8:27 AM

Have you noticed they are not attacking mitt or huck?Hmmmmmm!

ohiobabe on July 28, 2009 at 8:30 AM

Come on, guys. This is no different from all the GOP attack ads against Geraldine Ferraro that ran through 1985.

Damian P. on July 28, 2009 at 8:32 AM

Now why would Soros focus so much attention on little Ol’ Sarah?

Because he knows that she is a real threat.

Otherwise, why bother?

shaken on July 28, 2009 at 8:41 AM

I don’t get it . Why spend all this time attacking someone who people say have no chance of winning the republican primarys much less the general election.
If she got elected what do they think she will do and how much different do they think she would be over almost any other Republican.
Complete unhinged parnoria from the left over this woman, and that is one reason why I like her so much. I have never seen anything like it, you have to go all the way back to Nixon for something simalar

kangjie on July 28, 2009 at 9:04 AM

To be fair, there’s more to “dirty energy” and environmental degradation than CO2.

ernesto on July 27, 2009 at 9:22 PM

Wind and solar cause more environmental damage than does coal.

MarkTheGreat on July 28, 2009 at 9:54 AM

Especially since it takes more power to make and assemble the generators than they will ever produce in their life times.

MarkTheGreat on July 28, 2009 at 9:55 AM

Maybe no one is badmouthing them because they aren’t as easy targets yet. People badmout Bush does that mean Democrats are scared of Bush now?

terryannonline on July 27, 2009 at 7:56 PM

He’s not an issue any longer. She is.

NJ Red on July 28, 2009 at 9:58 AM

So, how much did you donate, Allah?

andycanuck on July 28, 2009 at 10:53 AM

And the Dems were scared of Bush when he was in office, or they wouldn’t have been attacking him.

andycanuck on July 28, 2009 at 10:54 AM

But, but, she’s standing in the way of clean energy jobs! Clean energy, people! You know, the private citizen Sarah Palin who holds no political office and has no power or authority over anything…she’s standing in the way…of clean energy…for bazillions of people!

Wyznowski on July 28, 2009 at 11:24 AM

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A few years ago a new employee showed up at my workplace. His old beat-up Toyota pickup had a sign on the back that said, “I get my electricity for free–ask me how!” I did–he told me about the solar panel system he installed on his house.
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I asked him how much it cost–answer was $10,000 for materials and he did the installation himself. I asked him how many kilowatts it could furnish–answer was 5 Kw. I asked him how long the panels would last–answer was 10 years–barring a really bad hailstorm. I asked him how long the lead-acid battery bank would last–and how much it would cost to replace it. Answer was about 5 years–and about $800 dollars.
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Then I did the basic math. In ten years the “free” electricity would cost $10,000 plus $800–a total of $10,800. Dividing this total by 120 months gives a total cost of $90. per month–regardless of the amount of energy used. And he had to come up with $10,800 on day one, $800 at the 5 year battery replacement time also. And at 10 years he would have to do it again! And he still has a power company service since he has to have backup power for overcast days.
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He can sell power back to the power company–the meter runs both ways. Assuming he can sell half of his 5 Kw. back for 10 hours a day at $0.10 per KWH he can get a profit of 2.5 X 10 X .1 = $2.50 per day. Multiply this by 120 months and 30 days per month and the power sellback profit is 2.50 X 120 X 30 = $9,000 in ten years.
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His savings for not paying for 2.5 Kwh in a 10 hour day is 2.5 X 10 X 0.1 = $2.50 a day–also works out to $9,000 in ten years.
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At first glance he does seem to get “free electricity” and a profit. He spends $10,800 in ten years, gets $9,000 from the power company, and saves $9,000 in this time–total profit of $18,000 – $10,800 = $7,200.
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However, he probably can’t use an electric stove, electric clothes drier, electric heat, or refrigerated air conditioning–too much peak power usage. He will need gas appliances for these tasks. And a more exact calculation would include the interest lost on the $10,800 initial investment–this would reduce the $7,200 profit. And cloudy day costs are not included either.
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At 10 years plus one day he would be “in the red” due to solar panel and battery bank replacement–$7,200 – $10,800 = -$3,600–a loss–at that point. No maintenance or failed parts costs are included in this calculation.
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This “free power” deal doesn’t look very good to me–even if everything works perfectly during the 10 year period. And if he sells his house and leaves at 5 years he has lost money. And near 10 years anyone buying his house will want $10,800 taken off the house price to pay for the new solar panels and battery bank that will be needed!
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Like a wise man said, “WHEN ANYONE OFFERS YOU SOMETHING FOR FREE TAKE AS LITTLE OF IT AS YOU CAN AFFORD!!” My power bill is about $60. a month–with all peak demand I need, and with no maintenance costs or big initial investments needed. Although I do not feel very “green”–I feel a lot smarter!
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John Bibb
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rocketman on July 28, 2009 at 5:50 PM

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