Palin debate: Frum vs. Coulter vs. Bay Buchanan

posted at 3:32 pm on July 25, 2009 by Allahpundit

A palate cleanser occasioned by this weekend’s official resignation. Nothing too surprising here from any of the participants but the prospect of a Coulter/Frum faceoff over Hot Air readers’ favorite Republican is too juicy to resist. Plus, it beats the hell out of the umpteen thousand “Alaskans debate Palin’s legacy” pieces being cranked out by the media this weekend. Man on the street #1: “I love her!” Man on the street #2: “I hate her!” Wash, rinse, repeat.

Frum does raise an interesting point at the end, though. Of the potential big three GOP candidates for 2012 — Romney, Huck, and Sarahcuda — do any have the potential to unite moderates and conservatives after a bruising primary? It’s hard to imagine Mitt turning out the whole evangelical base but it’s also hard to imagine Palin turning out Romney-supporting centrists. Huck as compromise choice?

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Her for Treasury Secretary.

guntotinglibertarian on July 25, 2009 at 5:41 PM
http://www.youtube.com/user/rebeleconomist
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And, first thing after the Inauguration, pass a law making it illegal to interfere with a lib jumping off a bridge…
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RalphyBoy on July 25, 2009 at 5:48 PM

Yeah, that’s her. Be still my heart.

guntotinglibertarian on July 25, 2009 at 5:51 PM

I’m surprised Ann didn’t have the presence of mind to bring up Obama when the question of quitting came up.

Oh, wait. Quitting for a better job doesn’t constitute actually quitting. Right. And Obama really only ran for the US Senate to run for president, which he started doing how many months after taking the oath as a senator?

And, of course, Hilary didn’t “quit” the senate, either, but left it to take a job with Obama. Right. So I guess she’s still a viable presidential candidate even though she’s been made a fool of for quitting the senate (which she moved to another state to run for with the express purpose of running for president) and then bailed after losing in the first primaries she ran in to take a job that is absolutely nothing like the job she thought she was getting and has made her look like an idiot ever since she took it.

Uh huh. You can be an opportunist and a carpetbagger, or both, but don’t wink while the flash bulbs are going off.

Jaynie59 on July 25, 2009 at 5:54 PM

I’ll take a quitter over a two time loser, or even a one time loser.
She’s the only one with charisma, everyone else comes across as an accountant, or, in Romney’s case, an insurance salesman. Huck seems like a sleazy uncle.
Since she inspires such passion, I’m betting that it’s hers to do with as she will.
Another thing: ‘0′ quit his term, too, after never really doing much besides run for prez. Jimmah Redux is on the skids.

TinMan13 on July 25, 2009 at 4:42 PM

Um, I hate to break it to you, but Palin lost. She lost to a fat Alaska “blogger” who probably has 10 cats. Romney, on the other hand, lost to a Senate dinosaur with military experience who had previously run for President.

Speedwagon82 on July 25, 2009 at 5:56 PM

Huck as compromise choice?

Sure – Huckabee will be the media stalking horse this time anyway, and that would also let me sleep in election day. Go for it – just don’t look for the slightest interest or commitment from me.

When the Republicans finally manage to execute an anal-cranial extraction and run the only candidate that can generate any excitement, I’ll show up.

In other words, it’s got to be Sarah, or I stay home. The rest haven’t learned McCain’s lesson – don’t try to be fair with the media – they are the enemy of democracy and truth. Sarah knows what they are.

drunyan8315 on July 25, 2009 at 5:56 PM

I think it was Glenn Beck who turned me on to Palin.

I doubt it was Beck who turned McCain on to her, though :-).

guntotinglibertarian on July 25, 2009 at 5:48 PM

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My daughter told me about Palin a month or so before the convention. I researched, and then waited until her speech to drive home the point.
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My daughter watches Beck all the time. Could be where she learned of Sarah as well.
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Either way, in three more years, when Odumbass gets through, we may be able to get a spotted horse elected. Let’s hope the GOP doesn’t nominate one just to prove the point.
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RalphyBoy on July 25, 2009 at 5:58 PM

Um, I hate to break it to you, but Palin lost. She lost to a fat Alaska “blogger” who probably has 10 cats. Romney, on the other hand, lost to a Senate dinosaur with military experience who had previously run for President.

Speedwagon82 on July 25, 2009 at 5:56 PM

It wasn’t just a blogger .

the_nile on July 25, 2009 at 5:58 PM

The person who will beat Obama is being created right now. Obama is creating new adversaries on the right like Palin and Beck and bloggers and old ladies,and Rick Perry, and tea party go’ers , and a whole host of people who had nothing to do with politics before. It’s hard to know how much damage Obama will be able to do before he’s beaten, but his nemesis is stalking him.

JiangxiDad on July 25, 2009 at 5:58 PM

Press Sec: Ann Coulter
Sec State: John Bolton
Att Gen: ??
Sec Defense: Michael Yon or Marcus Latrelle
Sec Education: Michele Bachmann
HHS: ??
Sec Treasury: Michele Muccio
Sec Interior: ??
Homeland Security: That sheriff down in Arizona

guntotinglibertarian on July 25, 2009 at 5:58 PM

It’s not going anyone on any person’s radar screen until late 2010 or 2011.

StevefromMKE on July 25, 2009 at 6:00 PM

Speedwagon82 on July 25, 2009 at 5:56 PM

You would lose a battle to a whale, as well. Let’s move on.

BPD on July 25, 2009 at 6:01 PM

Um, I hate to break it to you, but Palin lost. She lost to a fat Alaska “blogger” who probably has 10 cats.

Speedwagon82 on July 25, 2009 at 5:56 PM

Well then, if a fat Alaska blogger can beat Palin they better start grooming her for 2012 cause Obama can’t beat her.

darwin on July 25, 2009 at 6:01 PM

And, of course, Hilary didn’t “quit” the senate, either, but left it to take a job with Obama. Right. So I guess she’s still a viable presidential candidate even though she’s been made a fool of for quitting the senate (which she moved to another state to run for with the express purpose of running for president) and then bailed after losing in the first primaries she ran in to take a job that is absolutely nothing like the job she thought she was getting and has made her look like an idiot ever since she took it.

Uh huh. You can be an opportunist and a carpetbagger, or both, but don’t wink while the flash bulbs are going off.

Jaynie59 on July 25, 2009 at 5:54 PM

Hillary was smart to leave the Senate. Her hands are clean of Porkulus, and the Obama-Pelosi-Reid agenda.

She can say she left her position as an Eternal Senator to serve her Country and her Party, but her Party left her or some-such. Now she’s being boxed in by Obama, and it shows. She’ll have a lot of ammo should she want to challenge Obama.

Don’t count out a Clinton.

lansing quaker on July 25, 2009 at 6:02 PM

Rick Perry

A lot to like about Perry.

But that thing with the mandatory cervical cancer vaccine for schoolgirls is baaaaaaad.

I think I’d rather keep him around to spur a seccession.

guntotinglibertarian on July 25, 2009 at 6:02 PM

Hillary can’t win. Even if she overcame Ogabe in the primaries, the blacks would sit at home on election day.

We can only hope…

guntotinglibertarian on July 25, 2009 at 6:04 PM

Its amazing to me that people keep saying that she can’t win because she quit, ummmm, excuse me but didn’t Obama not only quit, but leave his seat empty for 2 years while he campaigned? I’m just sayin…

stacy on July 25, 2009 at 6:04 PM

well here is something to consider which does not really have much to do with her political viability but something conservatives can use to poke a liberal with……. Palins approval rating is at 40 % obama’s is at 49 % ….. how funny would it be if at some point her ratings become higher than his. Think about it ……. the woman liberals hate more than any other person turns up one morning with higher approval numbers than obama …… talk about a sharp stick in the eye…. * grin * only 9 points difference right now

Aggie95 on July 25, 2009 at 6:05 PM

A lot to like about Perry.

But that thing with the mandatory cervical cancer vaccine for schoolgirls is baaaaaaad.

I think I’d rather keep him around to spur a seccession.

guntotinglibertarian on July 25, 2009 at 6:02 PM

Rick Perry would be the silver lining if Health Care reform passes… If the state of Texas were to actually REFUSE to participate in the new health care system…. all I can say is WOW…. interesting times we live in.

BPD on July 25, 2009 at 6:05 PM

Hillary can’t win. Even if she overcame Ogabe in the primaries, the blacks would sit at home on election day.

We can only hope…

guntotinglibertarian on July 25, 2009 at 6:04 PM

I think Hillary is smart enough to know by now the Liberal Base will never elect her President. After Obama leaves office, she is going right back to her New York Senate seat.

Speedwagon82 on July 25, 2009 at 6:06 PM

On what basis is this discussion limited to a supposed “Big Three” at this point? In 2012, the electorate will be ready for: 1) an adult, 2) a conservative, and 3) an experienced, policy-savvy leader. By these criteria, Newt is the best we have, and he can unite the party better than Mitt, Huck or Sarah.

Gingrich/Palin may well be our strongest ticket.

Renascent on July 25, 2009 at 6:08 PM

David Frum is a complete ass-whole. He doesn’t get it! The so-called “base” of the Republican Party loves her, as do I. She can (will) unite this base of disaffected conservatives to mount a huge challenge to the Republican Party elites, which David Frum is a part of. They fear her, as they should.

ehvogel on July 25, 2009 at 6:08 PM

Gingrich/Palin may well be our strongest ticket.

Renascent on July 25, 2009 at 6:08 PM

Gingrich would make a great Chief of Staff, imo.

BPD on July 25, 2009 at 6:09 PM

Who the hell care which boring, old, tired, RINO the GOP picks?
Sarah has the ability, in this time and under these circumstances, that will be present due to the far leftisit takeover of House, Senate and Whitehouse to transcend the current corruptocrat, two party system and unite conservative and middle America to take back our country via third party.
Both parties bring us to the dance both leave us standing in the corner while they frivolously spend our money and party with the press and rich.

Sarah has a unique position as a proven reformer, common citizen, straight talker, and free enterprise thinker.

The right person for the times! Sarah!

Otherwise vote for a tired, old, white guy whose turn it is and who is the nominee because the liberal media and open primaries in liberal states support him and get 4 more years of communist takeover!

Is ANYONE in the GOP doing anything to close primaries? No? Maybe they want them that way so as to nominate their fav RINO Looser!

dhunter on July 25, 2009 at 6:09 PM

It won’t matter who we run if we don’t take down ACORN. Obama has funded them $8 Billion to make sure he gets re-elected. If we spent more time fightin corruption at the polls, then could we worry less about who we run. It’s like starting every election with a 10% handicapp and haveing to chose the best candidate to close that gap on the DEMS.

MichiganMatt on July 25, 2009 at 6:11 PM

Gingrich can’t be depended on to do anything other than what is good for Gingrich! He carrys more baggage than Pinnochio having been run out of town once!
A cabinet post, not bad!
Top of the ticket a disaster! Media will tear him to shreds, worse than Sarah!

dhunter on July 25, 2009 at 6:12 PM

Frum is such a weasel, just let the MSM smack you all over the place and look pathetic why don’t you. geez

jp on July 25, 2009 at 6:13 PM

Palin/Romney

That pulls in the base and gives Romney at least one term of supporting conservative principals so he can have a better chance pulling in the base next time.

aikidoka on July 25, 2009 at 6:15 PM

Is ANYONE in the GOP doing anything to close primaries? No? Maybe they want them that way so as to nominate their fav RINO Looser!

dhunter on July 25, 2009 at 6:09 PM

Excellent point.

And they aren’t doing anything to do away with the sham “debates” where they are ambushed by supposedly un-biased media panjundrums and insulted by youtube questioners with bones in their noses.

Pathetic.

guntotinglibertarian on July 25, 2009 at 6:16 PM

Huck as compromise choice?

Allah, are you crazy?

Falz on July 25, 2009 at 6:16 PM

Top of the ticket a disaster! Media will tear him to shreds, worse than Sarah!

dhunter on July 25, 2009 at 6:12 PM

Yep. And as for evangelical base, Newt’s marital history makes Giuliani look like Ward Cleaver.

guntotinglibertarian on July 25, 2009 at 6:17 PM

Palin/Romney

That pulls in the base and gives Romney at least one term of supporting conservative principals so he can have a better chance pulling in the base next time.

aikidoka on July 25, 2009 at 6:15 PM

Never happen. Romney would never accept VP slot on a Palin ticket. Probably not on any ticket.

guntotinglibertarian on July 25, 2009 at 6:18 PM

I do not even know who may actually run in the primaries yet. Sarah and Newt are both front runners in my mind. At this point in time I think they would make a great team almost certain to beat Obama, but not likely ACORN who can do that?

allrsn on July 25, 2009 at 6:19 PM

At this point in time I think it will take a minimum of 1.25 votes to 1 to beat ACORN.

allrsn on July 25, 2009 at 6:19 PM

At this point in time I think it will take a minimum of 1.25 votes to 1 to beat ACORN.

allrsn on July 25, 2009 at 6:19 PM

Nah, remember how effective our racist voter-suppression efforts are?

How we stand out in front of polling places wearing berets and dark glasses, wielding bill clubs? We rock!

Oh, wait…

guntotinglibertarian on July 25, 2009 at 6:22 PM

If I could choose one person to kick out of the republican party Frum would probably be it. I just wish he would go away.

clement on July 25, 2009 at 6:22 PM

It won’t matter who we run if we don’t take down ACORN. Obama has funded them $8 Billion to make sure he gets re-elected. If we spent more time fightin corruption at the polls, then could we worry less about who we run. It’s like starting every election with a 10% handicapp and haveing to chose the best candidate to close that gap on the DEMS.

MichiganMatt on July 25, 2009 at 6:11 PM

AMEN to that!

Key West Reader on July 25, 2009 at 6:25 PM

If I could choose one person to kick out of the republican party Frum would probably be it. I just wish he would go away.

clement on July 25, 2009 at 6:22 PM

Why choose just one?

David Brooks, Lindsay Graham, John McCain, George Voinovich, the Maine Twins, Eric (reducing CO2 emissions is a noble endeavor) Cantor, Ray LaHood, George Bush (both of ‘em)…

guntotinglibertarian on July 25, 2009 at 6:26 PM

By the time 2012 arrives, Obama policies will make Newt’s marital history irrelevant. They will also make the ACORN 10% advantage insufficient. (Although, once in office, we do need to cut them off, revise the policies that empower them, and prosecute as appropriate.)

But we do need to close the primaries. Let Republicans decide who the Republican nominee will be!

Renascent on July 25, 2009 at 6:28 PM

Palin/Romney

That pulls in the base and gives Romney at least one term of supporting conservative principals so he can have a better chance pulling in the base next time.

aikidoka on July 25, 2009 at 6:15 PM

I could support that! I think Romney is extremely smart re: economics ,I fear the Christian base, as bad as it hurts to say it, I heard wise people, I respected, last time, saying they wouldn’t vote for a Mormon.

A manta that Huckleberry at least winked at if not outright condoned. Thats enough for me to scratch the Huckster he was McSames wingman destroying Romneys chance when he had none himself. I would prefer Romney cabinet post Sec. Treasury or other high advisor post.

dhunter on July 25, 2009 at 6:29 PM

Obama, ACORN, Dodd, Frank, Pelosi, Reid, Waters, Rangel, Murtha, Ect., ect., ect.,

AAAAHHHHHHHHHHH

I am so sick of ALL of these corrupt, knuckle-dragging, out-for-self, constituents-what constituents, sleazy, traitorous group of imbeciles!!

I WANT MY COUNTRY BACK!!!

Point me to the line for secession or revolution!!

I’m way past there!!!!

stacy on July 25, 2009 at 6:29 PM

If Gomer Pyle gets the nomination, I’m packing my bags.

Kissmygrits on July 25, 2009 at 6:30 PM

big three GOP candidates for 2012 — Romney, Huck, and Sarahcuda

Romney and Huckleberry are RINO libtards
Romney is a member of a cult

That leaves Sarah!

Frum is a tool

as far as Bay goes – Babe Ruth occasionally struck out

bill30097 on July 25, 2009 at 6:31 PM

OT, but has anyone here seen The Hurt Locker?

Huge surprise: a strongly pro-troops Iraq movie. Great film.

guntotinglibertarian on July 25, 2009 at 6:31 PM

The only way to get any of them out with ACORN in place and so well funded is to drag them out kicking and screaming!

We will NOT have another fair election in this country!!

The people in Iran and Honduras fight for their freedom, with nothing but sticks and stones!! I have huge admiration for them. Are we willing to do the same?? I am are you??

stacy on July 25, 2009 at 6:33 PM

Never happen. Romney would never accept VP slot on a Palin ticket. Probably not on any ticket.

guntotinglibertarian on July 25, 2009 at 6:18 PM

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Then Romney needs a lesson in humility. Either of them should be willing to go the distance as #2 if that’s what it takes to get America back. And that goes for anyone else who gets tapped and would accept POTUS, but sarcs the VPOTUS postion.
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If it gets America back, make it so… Damn it! Now play nice.
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RalphyBoy on July 25, 2009 at 6:33 PM

Point me to the line for secession or revolution!!

I’m way past there!!!!

stacy on July 25, 2009 at 6:29 PM

Me too I hope Sarah leads. I really believe she could and that is why the Liberals, Dems, RINO infested GOP are out to destroy her.
As Rush says look at who is the target and thats our candidate.
The press the liberal Dems the RINO infested GOP spend no time attacking Romney, Huckleberry, Gingrich(yet) so they are OK with them They FEAR Sarah and the crowds she can bring.

Lead us Girl! The gloves come after off this weekend?

dhunter on July 25, 2009 at 6:35 PM

SP is not running in 2012. As a one termer, Piper would be only 15 at end of term, only 19 at end of possible second term. SP’s best chances to provide a Whitehouse wedding are if she runs 2016 or 2020, no sooner.

exdeadhead on July 25, 2009 at 5:31 PM

86% That’s what has you running scared. She will pull in Dems, Ind, Reps with her message and you know it.

debg on July 25, 2009 at 6:37 PM

dhunter on July 25, 2009 at 6:35 PM

Oh my God, I hope so, I really, really do!

stacy on July 25, 2009 at 6:39 PM

Romney is a conservative, but internet evangelicals can’t stand him. Fortunately internet evangelicals are a tiny percentage of R party.

PrezHussein on July 25, 2009 at 4:57 PM

Romney is the Republican candidate that the Democrats are praying for.

ddrintn on July 25, 2009 at 6:39 PM

The people in Iran and Honduras fight for their freedom, with nothing but sticks and stones!! I have huge admiration for them. Are we willing to do the same?? I am are you??

stacy on July 25, 2009 at 6:33 PM

From what I’ve seen in gun stores since Ogabe clinched the nomination, a lot of folks are thinking along those lines.

Of course, the statist know this. That’s why, in California, they’re pushing a bill to limit ammunition purchases to 50 rounds per month, with registration.

This BS about 90% of guns in the hands of Mexican drug traffickers being sold in the US is the thin edge of the wedge.

And check out Bobby Rush’s anti-guns bill in the House.

guntotinglibertarian on July 25, 2009 at 6:42 PM

SP is not running in 2012. As a one termer, Piper would be only 15 at end of term, only 19 at end of possible second term. SP’s best chances to provide a Whitehouse wedding are if she runs 2016 or 2020, no sooner.

exdeadhead on July 25, 2009 at 5:31 PM

86% That’s what has you running scared. She will pull in Dems, Ind, Reps with her message and you know it.

debg on July 25, 2009 at 6:37 PM

Well, it’s awfully early, but I think it needs to be kept in mind that if Sarah Palin ever decides to run, it will be in a campaign in which she finally has the opportunity to define herself.

ddrintn on July 25, 2009 at 6:42 PM

Romney will never happen since he put MassCare in place and it is an epic fail (what a shock).

red131 on July 25, 2009 at 6:43 PM

Romney is the Republican candidate that the Democrats are praying for.

ddrintn on July 25, 2009 at 6:39 PM

Thats what I’m afraid of! He would have been a far better candidate than Old McDumba$$ but there is something there that some cannot stand. I really don’t get it. Terrific cabinet material.

dhunter on July 25, 2009 at 6:44 PM

David Frum is a complete ass-whole. He doesn’t get it! The so-called “base” of the Republican Party loves her, as do I. She can (will) unite this base of disaffected conservatives to mount a huge challenge to the Republican Party elites, which David Frum is a part of. They fear her, as they should.

ehvogel on July 25, 2009 at 6:08 PM

Oh, he gets it all right, which is why he’s doing everything he can to stop “it”. They all get it; the media, the Dems and the GOP. They know what’s going on and they understand just what Palin represents and how what she represents can threaten their power base. This is why there’s an all-out attack from both sides and the media, because they know Palin is gunning for all of them.

This is what she wrote to the Washington Post yesterday:

“I will take the battle nationally and I won’t shy away from challenging the powerful, the entrenched, the corrupt and anyone standing in the way of getting our country back on the right track.”

yogi41 on July 25, 2009 at 6:46 PM

guntotinglibertarian on July 25, 2009 at 6:42 PM

Thank God for states such as Montana! And lets not forget those states now pushing through 10th amendment resolutions and such. Fortunately I live in one such state(Georgia), I just wish they would move faster!!

stacy on July 25, 2009 at 6:47 PM

http://www.remington.com/products/firearms/centerfire_rifles/Model_R-15_VTR.asp
I’m seriously gettin one of these! 30 cal. with reloader!
Now, I will be needing some pictures to sight in on any suggestions?

dhunter on July 25, 2009 at 6:49 PM

dhunter on July 25, 2009 at 6:49 PM

LOL Thank you, I needed it! and BTW refer to my list above!!

stacy on July 25, 2009 at 6:52 PM

Huck? Not now, not then, not even.

Mitt? Has he repented of MittCare? Or would he bring it to the masses?

Of the three, Palin twenty-twelve or I stay home.

davidk on July 25, 2009 at 6:53 PM

how funny would it be if at some point her ratings become higher than his. Think about it ……. the woman liberals hate more than any other person turns up one morning with higher approval numbers than obama …… talk about a sharp stick in the eye…. * grin * only 9 points difference right now

Aggie95 on July 25, 2009 at 6:05 PM

It will happen.

davidk on July 25, 2009 at 7:00 PM

I don’t believe the polls…either the people that are being polled are reading headlines and see ethics charges…or are just plain stupid. Fact is, when she is out and about…she connects with the average American. I think she will be more powerful now…

Mitt is a luke warm conservative, but fact is what kills is he is also a luke warm socialist. I want a strong conservative/libertarian that is quick witted and connects with people. Someone who when he or she smiles, I am not thinking…what are they trying to sell me?

Sorry Huck, you are not it…I will vote 3rd party before voting for you or any RINO. Huck is not between Mitt and Sarah…Huck is to the left of Mitt.

Right now the GOP is on probation with the conservative base…if they were smart they would do everything they could to re-energize that base. There are more conservatives than liberals….and most people when presented with logic lean right.

Conservative Voice on July 25, 2009 at 7:05 PM

Frum’s likes to call his blog the new majority but it really should be called the new pejority. Frum can keep trying to establish a “new majority,” but the only party he’ll that will listen to him is doesn’t exist as far as I’m concerned. Frum would rather attack conservatives than liberial democrats, go figure that one for us. Frum is thus a man without a party affiliation (unless we consider Allahpudit’s Libertarianism without the crazy pants party or HALP as it is nowing being identified) .

David Frum doesn’t know how to explain what he stands for anymore than Colin Powell has consistantly been unable to elucidate.

David Frum is the head of the Pejority Party which is really just a social gathering especially for pleasure or amusement but no solid core principles.

Frum can be characterized like that canadian large-headed turtle on top of a weathered fence post, the eastern seaboard beachcombers don’t know how Frum got up there but they sure like to talk about Frum every now and then. Most people say that they hope some big winter storm will come and take that poor canadian large-headed turtle back out to sea where it belongs.

Americannodash on July 25, 2009 at 7:06 PM

If anyone cares my Sen.Jim DeMint from S.C. who supported Romney last year said last week on a local radio station Gov. Palin and Romney are both is his kind of Conservative. When he was ask about Huckabee and other like Newt he kind laughed and said no comment.

thmcbb on July 25, 2009 at 7:09 PM

LOL Thank you, I needed it! and BTW refer to my list above!!

stacy on July 25, 2009 at 6:52 PM

Good list for starters, will need more pics though I plan on sighting in with around 500-700 rounds. Just to aleave a little frustration.

Ya know just watchin Fox
Palin/Banderas or
Palin /Meygn Kelly
I have no Problem with strong women!
I think Americas’ ready! They will certainly be better than Pinnochio, course a can of tuna, or post turtle would be better than Pinnochio.

dhunter on July 25, 2009 at 7:10 PM

It won’t matter who we run if we don’t take down ACORN

That and CHANGE THE PRIMARY SYSTEM. WE MUST STOP LETTING THE MODERATES AND LIBERALS PICK OUR CANDIDATE!

KickandSwimMom on July 25, 2009 at 7:13 PM

Unless President Obama orders a nuclear strike on a small Midwestern town out of sheer spite, he’ll beat Huckabee like a red-haired stepchild in any conceivable election day scenario. Only Romney or Palin stand a chance against him–and I only include Romney because of his superb organization. No other potential candidates come close.

troyriser_gopftw on July 25, 2009 at 7:18 PM

Huck as compromise choice?

No man, Gutfeld/Levy 2012!

- The Cat

P.S. When someone mentions ‘electability’ I stop listening.

MirCat on July 25, 2009 at 7:19 PM

AP; you are disingenuous. The PPP poll already says that Sarah Palin stands #1 among moderate Republicans at 64% and the PEW poll in mid-June shows Sarah at 62%; both polls show her ahead of Romney in this category as well.

technopeasant on July 25, 2009 at 4:47 PM

Good point. The PPP poll (unlike the “random adults” WaPo garbage poll) shows clearly that Palin is the only one with solid majority approval among both conservatives & moderates.

Forget Huckster & Romney, two losers who couldn’t win in the weakest GOP nomination field in history.

Any dark horse will have to raise tons of money in order be competitive with the Obama machine. And not to mention name recognition. Who the hell among non-political people has heard of Pawlenty, Mitch Daniels or Haley Barbour? And would any of these be able to mount a massive grassroot/money campaign based on their charisma alone?

Sorry, but as of right now Palin is the only candidate that could beat Obama.

Norwegian on July 25, 2009 at 7:20 PM

Heh!! This kinda says it all!!

http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2009/07/sarah-palin-mobbed-by-supporters-at.html

stacy on July 25, 2009 at 7:22 PM

That and CHANGE THE PRIMARY SYSTEM. WE MUST STOP LETTING THE MODERATES AND LIBERALS PICK OUR CANDIDATE!

KickandSwimMom on July 25, 2009 at 7:13 PM

Up until a few months ago, I thought the same way. However, I’m noticing that Palin is improving among Indies and some Dem voters, which leads me to be open to open primaries.

Unless the Dems have someone challenging Obama, many Dem and Indies are going to be more involved in the GOP primaries. I suspect many Dems will cross over and vote for Sarah because they believe she’s the weakest and they’ll want her to be the nominee. I know by 2012, her numbers with Indies will be a lot better and they’ll want to vote for her.

I honestly believe she can clean up if we have open primaries.

yogi41 on July 25, 2009 at 7:23 PM

Igor Panarin, former KGB agent, claims the divisions in the US will lead to its collapse before Obama’s term is up. I am so disgusted with what liberals are doing to this country, I almost wish this would happen. Let the East and West Coasts keep their liberalism, and let the interior red states keep the Constitution as we’re the only ones who seem to appreciate it.

CA, OR, WA and HI can form a country called the United States of Pacifica where weed is legal, and the government funds sex changes and AIDS treatment and they have no military. Gay marriage is the norm there, and as there are no children born they will die out soon enough. Their national anthem will be “Kumbaya” (with “my Lord” removed, of course!).

Blue counties of MD, VA, DE and all of NJ, NY, NH, VT, PA, OH, MI, ME, IL, IN and MN form the United States of Atlantia. They will have no guns or military, either, and a Department of Health Gestapo that tells people what and when to eat, how much, and forced exercise every day. POVs are outlawed and all take mass transit. Tobacco is outlawed. Transfats are outlawed. Guns are banned.

All liberals left in the rest of the country are forced to relocate to one of the two liberal fascist states. All conservative refugees from those areas will be welcomed. You must, however, show voter registration as either Republican or Libertarian in order to be eligible. We keep the Constitution, the Bill of Rights, the military, free enterprise, and the name USA. The new capital will be located in Austin, TX.

Well, one can always dream . . .

Special K on July 25, 2009 at 7:24 PM

That and CHANGE THE PRIMARY SYSTEM. WE MUST STOP LETTING THE MODERATES AND LIBERALS PICK OUR CANDIDATE!KickandSwimMom on July 25, 2009 at 7:13 PM

I don’t think the GOP wants change they want RINOs’

Answer Third Party!
Which of these would the GOP do? Run on:
Term Limits all three branches,
National Sales tax scrap the tax code get rid of IRS & insane code.
Pay/Benefit scale for Congress Critters/Senate Scum same scale as military
Take away their cushy heathcare and put them on our private plans, they’ll fix it,
No lifetime pensions put them on SSI they’ll fix it!
One topic only bills no 1000 page docs, no midnight amendments!
Any Bill must be posted on internet for 1 week before final vote,
No family employees paid by gov’t.
Make em fly public carriers they need to see their constituents we the people don’t need to buy their fancy planes. Sarah knows!
More additions? I’m sure I missed some good ones.

dhunter on July 25, 2009 at 7:26 PM

What many do not realize when they look at polls…

It only takes a bit above 30% of the electorate as hard core support to get elected.

Only about 60% of registered voters vote… a lot of folks stay home…

So, if Palin can get 40% or above of the electorate to voter for her? She wins in a landslide… UNLESS the negative voters turn out to vote against her in a very high turnout election.

Romeo13 on July 25, 2009 at 7:29 PM

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2300889/replies?c=20

Someone alert the Mainstream media Sarah Reads!
Compare to Obamas book from Chavez Stark contrast!

dhunter on July 25, 2009 at 7:32 PM

Huck reminds me of Buck Henry in the John Belushi Samurai Delicatessen, SNL skits. Am I the only one? Nothing phases him. Nothing out of the ordinary to speak of. They act well together and both come across as funny. So when watching Huck on his TV variety hour, I find the host equally amusing in a non future ROTC leadership kind of way.

FeFe on July 25, 2009 at 7:32 PM

pALIN/LIS CHENEY

stenwin77 on July 25, 2009 at 7:33 PM

Later she hosts a Whitehouse wedding. And that will be an awesome spectacle, one the media will have to cover, delicious.

exdeadhead on July 25, 2009 at 4:21 PM

You’re forgetting about Willow, the quiet one. She’s 14.

bw222 on July 25, 2009 at 7:34 PM

Frum does raise an interesting point at the end, though.

Hrm, I think we’ve spotted the problem AP. Don’t go to Frum for salient points. Do you honestly think that after the disaster of the first term and his free-falling poll numbers Obama will stand a chance against any GOP contender. Hell even McCain could win that one. That is unless Obama rigs the election even more than the last one.

chicagojedi on July 25, 2009 at 7:53 PM

Allah,

I know your job is to get traffic to this site and to get comments below your posts, but there is a point where being provocative ends and insulting your audience’s intelligence begins. I know that you already know for a hard fact that a large percentage of Hotair readers would rather nail their genitalia to a burning building than support Mike Huckabee, so please give it a rest. The long comment threads won’t redeem the diminished respect we have for you.

That anyone could support an anti-mormon bigot like Huckabee who accuses Romney of being mean and flip-flopping while he himself flip flopped on tax increases and education funding for illegals in the middle of the primary, all while acting even more bitter and abrasive than McCain is truly a mind-boggler.

Give it a rest my man.

Kataklysmic on July 25, 2009 at 7:54 PM

Do all men with buck teeth suffer from Palin Derangement Syndrome? I’m guessing in the case of Letterman and Frum, Palin reminds them of the pretty cheerleader in high school who wouldn’t give them the time of day.

Anyone want to guess what Allahpundit’s grill looks like?

Phildorex on July 25, 2009 at 7:56 PM

Romney is the Republican candidate that the Democrats are praying for.

ddrintn on July 25, 2009 at 6:39 PM

I always was of the opinion that it was Palin they would’ve prayed for, but considering how much they want to destroy her, it’s clear they fear her more than anyone else.

StevefromMKE on July 25, 2009 at 8:10 PM

Allah,

I know your job is to get traffic to this site and to get comments below your posts, but there is a point where being provocative ends and insulting your audience’s intelligence begins….

I believe he’s playing devil’s advocate with Huck…or something. To borrow one of his plays…

StevefromMKE on July 25, 2009 at 8:13 PM

I’m not even going to give CBS the traffic by clicking to watch.

I hope they fail.

bluelightbrigade on July 25, 2009 at 8:17 PM

Got a letter from Mitt Romney on behalf of the Republican Senatorial Committee. Sorry Mitt, I no longer support the National Republican Senatorial Committee. (They always bewail how Dems are ruining the country — which they are — but never take responsibility for HOW THEY BLEW IT BIG TIME WHEN THEY HAD THE VOTES AND GOT US INTO THIS MESS!!! (Sorry, I get a little excited when I think about it.)
Now Sarah? That’s a different story. Same with Inhofe, Coburn, Michele Bachmann, and DeMint. Most of the rest of them need to learn how to handle the hostile press and quit being wimps. And this letter does nothing for me regarding voting for Romney in the future. If he’s just going to toe the RINO line, I don’t want him to run.

Christian Conservative on July 25, 2009 at 8:30 PM

Well, one can always dream . . .

Special K on July 25, 2009 at 7:24 PM

Hey Special K, don’t go all John C. Calhoun on us now.

In the 1858 Debate at Ottawa, Illinois between Douglas & Lincoln. A. Lincoln exclaimed the following:

Why can we not adhere to the great principle of self-government, upon which our institutions were founded. It will become all one thing, or all the other.

This great house that we call the United States of America can be saved whole once again if we fight for its preservation based on the simple truth that it is the inalienable right and responsiblity for the individual to pursue freedoms for their own lives, livelihoods & all acquisitions of such properties attained. It is these assets and options of our own freedoms that we will inevitably lose if our government encroachments continues to intrude and control our everyday lives. In a Barbara Anderson column written in 2001 she quotes Willam Safire definition of the libertarian view as “one who resisted government encroachment on individual liberties.” The burden of over taxation is similar to a form of slavery where you are actually working two or more days a week indirectly for the government. This governmebt wants to decreases your disposible income with every incremental increase in your tax burden. We must be allowed to maintain our possessions and not be taxed to the breaking point where what was once preserved through our own sweat and hard work is now forfeit because we can no longer afford to own it because of high taxation. We are now on course to be taxed beyond our means and this was not the intention or invention as set forth by our founders who gave us our individual state and our nations constitutions.

“A house divided against itself cannot stand.”
> A. Lincoln

The above quote from Lincoln still rings true to this very day. It is a different kind of slavery that we are about to face with this spend now & tax us later government we have running the country now. Heavy taxation will divide this country once again if we allow to happen. Call your representative and tell them to stop spending money they don’t have & to cut the tax rates across the board so that the private sector can get back to creating real sustainable jobs instead of make-work government jobs that do no good to a capitalism driven economy.

Americannodash on July 25, 2009 at 8:44 PM

AP, “Huck as compromise choice?”

Allah, I’m beginning to think you’ve lost any semblence of rationality. Been looking at wide angle shots of Meghan McCain again?

Then, I keep fogetting; you’re not a conservative.

bw222 on July 25, 2009 at 8:50 PM

Call your representative and tell them to stop spending money they don’t have & to cut the tax rates across the board

Americannodash on July 25, 2009 at 8:44 PM

But, see, that’s the problem–I have called my stupid representative, Gabrielle Giffords, 8th District, AZ, and she doesn’t freakin’ listen!!!!!

Special K on July 25, 2009 at 8:51 PM

Special K on July 25, 2009 at 8:51 PM

Special K may need to take it up a notch or two to get her attention. You need to start networking with other people in the 8th district who feel like you do. Take an ad out in your local paper requesting individuals to join your cause. You want to hold tea party like protest in your district. That protest must be a peaceful one. Get the necessary permits and let your local outlet know when it is going to place. Google where Gabrielle Giffords offices are and do the protest there. If they ask you why you are doing it just say that your representative does not return your phone calls or respond to your e-mails in a satisfactory manner. It sounds like a lot of work but it can be very rewarding to you others knowing that your expressing your constitutional rights of freedom speech and the right to freedom of assembly. Contact her major opponent: Tim Bee and see if he can help you out as well.

Residence: Tucson

Marital Status: Married (Mark Kelly)

Prev. Occupation: Small Business Owner

Prev. Political Exp.: AZ House, 2000-02; AZ Senate, 2002-05

Education: BA Scripps College, 1993; MRP Cornell University, 1996

Birthdate: 06/08/1970

Birthplace: Tucson, AZ

Religion: Jewish

Percentage in Last Election: 55%

Major Opponent: Tim Bee

[btw] Politicians don’t like negatives being put there in the public eye if they can help it. Don’t do her any favors by sitting on your hands when you can stand up and speak for and with the people who live and work in your district. Give her a piece of your mind up close and personal Special K.

Americannodash on July 25, 2009 at 9:19 PM

Man on the street #1: “I love her!” Man on the street #2: “I hate her!”

Man on the street #3: “Mitt who?” Man on the street #4: “Huck-a-what?”

ddrintn on July 25, 2009 at 9:25 PM

Huck as a “compromise choice”? AP you are dumb as a rock.

echosyst on July 25, 2009 at 9:26 PM

Yogi—I do not thinks the DC elites realize Sarah is serious with this quote.

“I will take the battle nationally and I won’t shy away from challenging the powerful, the entrenched, the corrupt and anyone standing in the way of getting our country back on the right track.”

Well everybody will learn just how serious Sarah is when the time is right. She has do it before and she will do it again. The Country is rip for this kind of message.

One other thing if anybody thinks O is going to get the same turn out next time you are nutz. There is enough material right now to beat him.

Clyde5445 on July 25, 2009 at 9:50 PM

Americannodash on July 25, 2009 at 9:19 PM

Oh, you should’ve seen the turnout at the tea party at her office in Sierra Vista! At least 150 for this little town. And there was a letter to the editor to our local paper ranting against her vote for cap & tax that was the most commented article in that edition. I don’t know if Tim Bee is going to run against her again, but we do have a young ex-military man named Jesse Kelly who has thrown his hat into the ring. The problem is our district, which covers the very conservative Cochise County and over to Green Valley, also includes part of Tucson which tends to be a bastion of identity political liberal Hispanics. Gerrymandered district, if you will. Well, we’ll see come 2010. She ran as a conservative Democrat, which you have to do here, and this is only her second term, but since Obama was elected she sure is letting her liberalism show. She seems to think she works for him and Pelosi and not for her constituents.

Special K on July 25, 2009 at 9:58 PM

Isn’t Frum a freakin’ Canadian? NTTIAWWT.

thegreatbeast on July 25, 2009 at 10:04 PM

Do you have special urge to be deliberately obtuse, AP? Sarah Palin appeals to over 65% of moderates and close to 80% of conservatives. She’s already uniting both the factions behind her. I don’t know how many time I have to say this but Sarah’s primary rival at this point is not Romney but Huckabee who has a solid evangelical base while the rest are falling behind Sarah. Romney’s support is weakening across the board, among both moderates and conservatives and only NRO crew are still obsessing about him.

The primaries won’t be bruising because Sarah will coast to victory easily. The only thorn on her side will be the likes of Frum, Noonan and other beltway hacks.

promachus on July 25, 2009 at 10:05 PM

guntotinglibertarian on July 25, 2009 at 5:58 PM

You forgot to give the DOJ to Guiliani(sp) and let him go after these b*stards ruining the country that are now in charge

stacy on July 25, 2009 at 10:15 PM

Okay, I only read the first page of comments, but where did Allah get the idea that Romney supporters could possibly like Huckabee more than Palin? At least she’s not a sleazebag. I for one would definitely support her if she won the nomination, and in a one-on-one race between her and Huckabee I’d pick her ten times over. I just prefer Mitt of the three.

thecountofincognito on July 25, 2009 at 10:16 PM

A palate cleanser occasioned by this weekend’s official resignation.

It’s hard to imagine Mitt turning out the whole evangelical base but it’s also hard to imagine Palin turning out Romney-supporting centrists. Huck as compromise choice?

LOL…. Allahpundit doesn’t make it TOO obvious that he wants to get Palin out of the picture as soon as he possibly can. Of course, she’s a true conservative, so I wonder what it is about Sarah that drives Allahpundit to try to eliminate her from the race YEARS early, as if we all didn’t know by now…

The PRINCIPLES of conservatism, except for a few wacko socialists, are hugely accepted in this country. And the momentum by 2012 will be moving fast in the conservative direction.

I get it that Allahpundit has a platform and an agenda, but how about a little HONEST evaluation, rather than push polling your bias against Palin?

Danzo on July 25, 2009 at 10:18 PM

Frum is odious. Don’t give him any forum to impersonate a conservative.

wraithby on July 25, 2009 at 10:18 PM

Kataklysmic on July 25, 2009 at 7:54 PM

I see you got there ahead of me.

thecountofincognito on July 25, 2009 at 10:19 PM

Other than Sarah, the only other person I would really like to see run is Mike Pence. He’s the best. Pence/Palin or Palin/Pence.

darwin-t on July 25, 2009 at 10:21 PM

Can I ask one question? Why do we allow David Frum to call himself a republican? I think we should be allowed to excommunicate RINOs just like the Pope can excommunicate catholics who don’t follow the tenets of the religion. I like Bay and she makes some good points, (not that I agree). Frum, though, sounds like he works for MSNBC. Even if you just see Sarah as just a great base rouser and a great money maker, why would you want to marginalize HER? Isn’t he suppose to be one of the big tent guys. Yeah..big tent for Meghan McCain and Colin Powell, but there just doesn’t seem to be enough in the bigtop for Sarah. Please David, give me a break. Go back and write for the website no one cares about.

Dan Pet on July 25, 2009 at 10:58 PM

Huck as compromise choice?

You’re a cruel man beta male, AP.

ThereGoesTheNeighborhood on July 25, 2009 at 10:59 PM

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