Waxman threatens to bypass own committee on ObamaCare

posted at 2:55 pm on July 24, 2009 by Ed Morrissey

Henry Waxman had to pull a lot of strings to get the chair of the Energy and Commerce Committee in the House, kicking longtime chair John Dingell out for his moderate stance on cap-and-trade.  However, his most controversial action in the ECC hasn’t come on cap-and-trade but on Barack Obama’s push to get a health-care reform bill passed before the August recess.  Waxman has threatened renegade Democrats on the panel that he will allow Pelosi to bypass them if they don’t fall into line:

Chairman Henry Waxman (D-Calif.) says there is “no alternative” but to have healthcare legislation bypass his Energy and Commerce Committee if Blue Dog Democrats don’t accept a deal worked out Friday.

Waxman is now playing a game of legislative chicken with the Blue Dogs. He’s  hoping the inclusion of a study on Medicare reimbursement rates in the healthcare overhaul will be enough to placate the centrist Democrats, who say the government program short-changes hospitals and physicians in their rural districts.

If that’s not, the seven Blue Dogs could join with the committee’s Republicans to “eviscerate” healthcare reform, and that’s something Waxman will not tolerate.

Think of this as a “nuclear option”.  Waxman and Pelosi could get the bill past the ECC moderates, but that would almost certainly provoke a floor fight between Democrats when the bill comes up for a vote.  Moderate Democrats who already have publicly-expressed reservations over ObamaCare will dig in their heels, and at the moment, they have enough votes to kill it.

In all likelihood, this is a big bluff.  With consensus on the bill falling apart at the seams, and with Obama’s approval ratings crashing, the last thing Pelosi needs is a schism among her own troops that could rapidly turn bitter.  After all, she’s not that far removed from her CIA-lied debacle, and a failure of her leadership at this juncture would probably rekindle the impulse to replace her with Steny Hoyer, a steadier and more well-liked leader.

Just as with Rahm Emanuel’s statement this morning on NPR, though, it bears close watching.

Update: Speaking of open and transparent thuggery, don’t miss Jazz Shaw and Bruce McQuain on the Democratic attempt to censor House Republican mailings through the Franking Committee.


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Politico reporting Waxman pulled the concessions already…
everyone please call here is the pdf of blue dogs with contact info

Scroll down for Update 2…here is the money quote:

Arkansas Rep. Mike Ross, the top negotiator for conservative Democrats in the Blue Dog Coalition, told reporters Friday that the negotiations “pretty much fell apart this afternoon.”

In a meeting with Blue Dogs Friday, Waxman rescinded two previous concessions to help cut health care costs over time and ensure the government-sponsored health care won’t impede on the private market.

ginaswo on July 24, 2009 at 3:52 PM

PackerBronco on July 24, 2009 at 3:50 PM

Unless they can work a deal with Republicans where the GOP would focus money elsewhere.

Besides, Blue Dogs tend to be from moderate districts. Places that are not fans of CapNTax or ObamaCare.

BadgerHawk on July 24, 2009 at 3:52 PM

Since the bill provides for government access to bank accounts, what happens if everyone goes cash-only? Do we do it?

Fallen Sparrow on July 24, 2009 at 3:29 PM

They are truly insane if they think people are going to turn over access to their bank accounts to the feds.

Blake on July 24, 2009 at 3:52 PM

Bypass his OWN COMMITTEE??? Holy S, these crooks are shameless.

marklmail on July 24, 2009 at 3:51 PM

Waxman is getting b#$@# slapped by Pelosi

gatorboy on July 24, 2009 at 3:52 PM

Waxman looks and speaks exactly like the dorky little doubting mouse on the animated Christmas special “‘Twas the Night Before Christmas” I watched as a kid in the 70′s.

Cornhusker on July 24, 2009 at 3:53 PM

http://www.house.gov/melancon/BlueDogs/

CALL THE BLUE DOGS!!!!!!

bloggless on July 24, 2009 at 3:53 PM

They are truly insane if they think people are going to turn over access to their bank accounts to the feds.

Blake on July 24, 2009 at 3:52 PM

It’s in the bill, clear as day. So is coverage for illegal aliens. I think that’s what ultimately kills it, if word about that provision gets out.

BadgerHawk on July 24, 2009 at 3:54 PM

It’s in the bill, clear as day. So is coverage for illegal aliens. I think that’s what ultimately kills it, if word about that provision gets out.

BadgerHawk on July 24, 2009 at 3:54 PM

Where?

bloggless on July 24, 2009 at 3:54 PM

Hoo boy! I can’t wait until the news this evening when all the networks will be talking about the “deep fractures in the Democratic Party” and hammering the point home again and again.

They’re gonna do that… right?

rihar on July 24, 2009 at 3:49 PM

heh. Yeah, they’ll get to it. Right after they cover the story about the DOJ throwing out the default judgement against the Black Panthers.

UltimateBob on July 24, 2009 at 3:56 PM

Since the bill provides for government access to bank accounts, what happens if everyone goes cash-only? Do we do it?

Fallen Sparrow on July 24, 2009 at 3:29 PM

Not that I don’t put that past the Dems at all, and not that I don’t believe for a second that they wouldn’t do this if given the chance, I’m going to have to ask for a citation.

Vic on July 24, 2009 at 3:57 PM

Granted, I’m assuming the access to bank accounts is only for people signed up for a govt. plan, but since the ultimate goal is to have everyone signed up for a govt. plan…

BadgerHawk on July 24, 2009 at 4:00 PM

The Ratface is some piece of cheese, ain’t he?

rogersnowden on July 24, 2009 at 4:00 PM

We win. For now.

Blue Dogs give House Leadership the finger.

http://thirdbasepolitics.blogspot.com/2009/07/it-happened.html

DJ Tablesauce on July 24, 2009 at 4:01 PM

The Ratface is some piece of cheese, ain’t he?

rogersnowden on July 24, 2009 at 4:00 PM

If Gore is Man-Bear-Pig, Waxman is Man-Rat-Pig.

UltimateBob on July 24, 2009 at 4:02 PM

Waxman is getting b#$@# slapped by Pelosi

gatorboy on July 24, 2009 at 3:52 PM

No, he isn’t. No way he would have done this without her blessing.

DJ Tablesauce on July 24, 2009 at 4:03 PM

Who voted Henry Morgan Waxman into Office?

BigMike252 on July 24, 2009 at 4:03 PM

My favorite section.

“Waxman simply does not have votes in committee and process should not be bypassed to bring the bill straight to floor,” Rep. Mike Ross (D-Ark.), the lead Blue Dog negotiator, said on Friday. “We are trying to save this bill and trying to save this party.

I’ll give those guys credit where it’s due — they can read the writing on the wall and are trying to salvage something before the next election season rolls around. And with it, their jobs.

LastRick on July 24, 2009 at 4:05 PM

No, he isn’t. No way he would have done this without her blessing.

DJ Tablesauce on July 24, 2009 at 4:03 PM

huh? that’s pretty much what I was saying.. pelosi is forcing this on waxman and waxman is pelosi’s little lapdog to play along

gatorboy on July 24, 2009 at 4:07 PM

huh? that’s pretty much what I was saying.. pelosi is forcing this on waxman and waxman is pelosi’s little lapdog to play along

gatorboy on July 24, 2009 at 4:07 PM

Ah, you weren’t clear. I took it as she was punishing him for screwing this up, which it clearly has been.

DJ Tablesauce on July 24, 2009 at 4:08 PM

I can’t imagine what arm-twisting can happen between now and then that hasn’t happened already.

No way the BD’s vote for this next week if it comes to the Floor for a vote. They will demand it goes through the E&C Committee first.

Question is whether Pelosi will take the chance or not.

DJ Tablesauce on July 24, 2009 at 4:09 PM

DJ Tablesauce on July 24, 2009 at 4:09 PM

Do you see any Republican defections ala Cap and Trade?

elduende on July 24, 2009 at 4:14 PM

Do you see any Republican defections ala Cap and Trade?

elduende on July 24, 2009 at 4:14 PM

Unlike that legislation, there aren’t specific states/districts that particularly benefit under this bill. Therefore it’s much more likely for the GOP be unified, just like they did with the Stimulus.

Also, Cantor’s office hasn’t sounded the alarm about any potential defections. I’m sure they’d let that leak if there was anything to worry about.

Or, at least I’d hope so.

DJ Tablesauce on July 24, 2009 at 4:17 PM

Let them know that we will sue the S*&T out of every provision in this bill.Taking of bank accounts is a little short on due process,next it will be quarting for wetbacks.
NFW !!!!!

Col.John Wm. Reed on July 24, 2009 at 4:17 PM

DJ Tablesauce on July 24, 2009 at 4:17 PM

Thanks. thats reassuring. you should post your thoughts here more often.

elduende on July 24, 2009 at 4:20 PM

Let me be clear. Rahm is a dwarf ballerina.

marklmail on July 24, 2009 at 4:21 PM

Thanks. I do when I can.

In the meantime, feel free to keep track of my blog. :-)

DJ Tablesauce on July 24, 2009 at 4:22 PM

Thanks. I do when I can.

In the meantime, feel free to keep track of my blog. :-)

DJ Tablesauce on July 24, 2009 at 4:22 PM

Absolutely! thanks.

elduende on July 24, 2009 at 4:23 PM

God really ran out of handsome by the time Waxman came along.

Chuck Schick on July 24, 2009 at 4:28 PM

“Rules? We don’t need no stinkin’ rules!”

davo on July 24, 2009 at 4:30 PM

The American Eugenics Society merged with, and moved its offices into the headquarters of the Rockefeller family’s new Population Council in 1953.

A eugenics zealot in the Ernst Rudin tradition, Daniel Callahan, got a Population Council grant and continual Rockefeller family sponsorship in 1968-69 to found the Hastings Center, in Garrison, N.Y., to push euthanasia under the new title, “Bioethics.”

Geneticist and evolutionary biologist Theodore Dobzhansky was simultaneously a founding director of the Hastings Center and chairman of the American Eugenics Society. Hastings founder Callahan became a director of the Eugenics Society.

The Hastings Center is now headquarters for the Obama reform agenda, still under the active leadership of emeritus president Callahan, the Hitlerian eugenist.

Peter Orszag, now the White House Budget Director, sent his deputy Philip Ellis to Hastings last May to assure the Center that “comparative effectiveness” would be the criterion for an Obama Administration’s attack on respect for human life.

Regular Hastings writer Henry J. Aaron has now penned a demand for tough adherence to the comparative effectiveness doctrine. Aaron is Orszag’s fellow “behavioral economist” and was Orszag’s partner on the Brookings Institution team for taking down medical care and Social Security. Regular Hastings writer Anthony Culyer is research director for the British Crown’s National Institute for Health and Clinical Excellence (NICE) the model for the Obama-Emanuel “death council.” NICE runs the rationing that has already killed thousands under Britain’s National Health Service.

Ezekiel Emanuel [Special Obooba Advisor for Health Policy], is a Hastings Center fellow, as is his former wife and longtime bioethics collaborator, Linda Emanuel. She set up and ran the death education initiative for the American Medical Association, sponsored by George Soros’s Project on Death in America.

Ezekiel Emanuel’s deputy director of the Federal Department of Bioethics, Christine Grady, is a director of the Hastings Center and a Hastings fellow.

Animal liberation guru Peter Singer is no doubt the most famous Hastings Center fellow, and founding president of the International Association of Bioethics. Singer advocates the killing of handicapped infants, to stop them from being a burden to parents and a cost to society. He believes that humans have no right to life above that of beasts, and that it may be more appropriate to do medical experiments on disabled, unconscious people than on healthy rats.

In 1980, Britain’s Voluntary Euthanasia Society founded the World Federation of Right to Die Societies. They sent London Times reporter Derek Humphrey to America, to found the Hemlock Society for euthanasia and suicide.

More here.

Akzed on July 24, 2009 at 4:32 PM

“I’ve been lied to,” Blue Dog Coalition Co-Chairman Charlie Melancon (D-La.) said on Friday. “We have not had legitimate negotiations. — TheHill.com

Waking up’s a bear, isn’t it Charlie.

petefrt on July 24, 2009 at 4:32 PM

The GOP needs to tell these weaslecrats to get crammed. Go ahead and have your townhall, rep.’s and say whatever you want. Then dare them to challenge you!

The Ritz on July 24, 2009 at 4:39 PM

The second-ranking Democrat in the House says lawmakers may not be able to vote on a health care bill next week but might remain in Washington in August to complete President Barack Obama’s top domestic priority.
Rep. Steny Hoyer of Maryland told lawmakers Friday that it might not be possible to finish the legislation, now bogged down in the Energy and Commerce Committee. Rebellious conservative-to-moderate Democrats have balked over the bill.

Hoyer suggested House leadership might keep lawmakers in Washington past their scheduled break, which is slated to begin Aug. 1.

Breitbart at 3:40 pm EDT

Threatening to take away part of their vacation if they don’t play well with others?

Wethal on July 24, 2009 at 4:40 PM

they are just afraid to go home & want an excuse to stay in the hottest, muggiest, yukkiest part of the East Coast during August.

kelley in virginia on July 24, 2009 at 4:49 PM

The Democrats made a lot of mistakes, but their biggest mistakes were Pelosi and Waxman. Most Americans are never going to trust them and those blue dogs know that.

Terrye on July 24, 2009 at 4:52 PM

Threatening to take away part of their vacation if they don’t play well with others?

Wethal on July 24, 2009 at 4:40 PM

Wow. They really don’t want to come in front of us with this crap, do they?

Fallen Sparrow on July 24, 2009 at 4:52 PM

rat boy from hell

Locrian on July 24, 2009 at 5:07 PM

I’m not taking a chance. I have a blue-dog congressman, and I have written him today, urging him not to support this effort to rush it through the House.

I also wrote to the local Tea Party movement to see if we can hit the streets this weekend.

Suggest others do the same. Commenting on a blog won’t get it done.

Take no chances – take action!

connertown on July 24, 2009 at 5:08 PM

God really ran out of handsome by the time Waxman came along.

Chuck Schick on July 24, 2009 at 4:28 PM

My first laugh of the day. Shows you how lousy things are.

betsyz on July 24, 2009 at 5:13 PM

Conservatives for Patients Rights has easy form to petition your legislative pinheads with:
http://capwiz.com/conservativesforpatientsrights/issues/alert/?alertid=13624501

Give ‘em hell.

bloviator on July 24, 2009 at 3:01 PM

Done.

eyedoc on July 24, 2009 at 5:29 PM

Conservatives for Patients Rights has easy form to petition your legislative pinheads with:
http://capwiz.com/conservativesforpatientsrights/issues/alert/?alertid=13624501

Give ‘em hell.

bloviator on July 24, 2009 at 3:01 PM

Done :-)
Sent to
Senator Barbara Boxer (D-CA)
Senator Dianne Feinstein (D-CA)
Representative Ed Royce (R-CA 40th)
Not that it will do any good :-(

mothra on July 24, 2009 at 5:44 PM

I hope Waxman and Pelosi do what they threaten.

The blowback will be significant A lot of people will figure out there’s a war on, and these two wingnuts are not our friends.

This piece of dung has to be stopped. No compromise, no half measures, it has to be killed. It is not reversible, no one will ever have the guts to do it. “We survived Carter” is not a proper mindset on this issue. We have to win, they have to lose.

So I hope they do go nuclear, because I believe they will lose. The thuggery anc chicanery are just too obvious, and coming so soon after Crap and Tax, Bama’s poll fall should accelerate, and Pelosi, Waxman and their ilk may find themselves in trouble they cannot overcome, even if they keep their jobs.

Pelosi didn’t get the message her book tour communicated: your self-approval rating is not a shared view, by a huge margin.

Harry Schell on July 24, 2009 at 6:37 PM

Looks like the rolling juggernaut that is the Democratic majority ain’t working too well…

ted c on July 24, 2009 at 6:40 PM

This is an unmitigated and ugly disaster for the Democratic party and ugliness for America as well:

Representative Charlie Melancon, a Blue Dog Democrat from Louisiana, gave a blunt summary of the situation: “Mr. Waxman has decided to sever discussion with Blue Dogs who are trying to get a bill that works for America.”Mr. Melancon said Mr. Waxman had spurned most of the Blue Dogs’ recommendations and had not negotiated in good faith. “I have been lied to,” he said.Racial overtones also appeared to creep into the intraparty dispute. One African-American Democrat pointed out that the seven Blue Dogs who were holding up the bill in the Energy and Commerce Committee were “a nondiverse group” of white men.

rob verdi on July 24, 2009 at 7:13 PM

If Waxman does it we will witness the implosion of the Dim party.
Bring it Henry!

FireBlogger on July 24, 2009 at 7:18 PM

Couldn’t you film him from the back?

Bambi on July 24, 2009 at 8:06 PM

I think the Blue Dogs have a golden opportunity here to take control of the direction of the House, at least for the near future. Pelosi cannot pass a bill without them unless she gets Republican defectors, which I don’t think she will on this bill. The BDs should make it clear that if she undermines the committee they will vote it down on the floor, a risk she can’t take as that would mean final death to the legislation. They hold the cards, the only question is if they know it and are willing to play hardball. Personally I would LOVE for Pelosi to go around the committee and lose a floor vote, the sight of Pelosi’s head exploding would be the best thing I have seen in months.

Govgirl on July 24, 2009 at 8:34 PM

The little west Hollywood representing rat boy. Is he the stereotypical posterchild…. Or what. Disgusting vermin. Thanks McCain for being a total failure. Oh and bang up job, W, you Rino asshole. Blech!

texaninfidel on July 25, 2009 at 2:13 PM

Evidently there are no provisions for cosmetic surgery in the senate health plan. Makes John Bolton stand out with good looks!

bluegrass on July 26, 2009 at 11:20 AM

It’s only a hop, skip and jump to there being no committees. Heck, we’re already at a point where Republicans aren’t even allowed to weigh in on important issues or even read legislation before it goes for a vote. Why is anyone surprised this guy is willing to keep his OWN folks from asking any questions? It ain’t about reform, folks. It’s about Obama’s power. And whatever they gotta do to put more power into his hands, they are going to do.

Mad Mad Monica on July 26, 2009 at 12:51 PM

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