CNN president to Lou Dobbs: Stop covering the birth certificate story
posted at 4:35 pm on July 24, 2009 by Allahpundit
Bad idea. I sympathize with him wanting to protect CNN from negative press but the surest way to feed a conspiracy theory, needless to say, is to try to suppress it. This is like Roger Ailes issuing a communique ordering Fox News not to cover 9/11 Truth. What is he hiding?
TVNewser has learned CNN/U.S. president Jon Klein sent an email to a handful of “Lou Dobbs Tonight” staffers last night regarding the coverage of the so-called birthers and the validity of Pres. Obama’s birth in the U.S.
In part, Klein writes, “It seems this story is dead- because anyone who still is not convinced doesn’t really have a legitimate beef.” Klein asked CNN researchers to dig into the question of why Obama couldn’t produce the original birth certificate. The researchers contacted the Hawaii Health Dept. and confirmed that paper documents were discarded in 2001 when the department went paperless. That reportedly includes Pres. Obama’s original birth certificate.
Dave Weigel, who’s been tracking the Birther phenomenon for months, floats a new story today about Team McCain having investigated the rumors last year and found nothing to them. Possible lines of Birther attack: McCain’s vetters were too dumb to find the smoking gun; even if they found the smoking gun, McCain’s eligibility was also in question at one point due to his being born in Panama so he couldn’t use it; McCain’s a RINO and wanted to lose so even if he did find the smoking gun, he probably destroyed it to help Obama out.
As a capper to Birther Week, here’s Matthews beating the dead horse once more with G. Gordon Liddy. Come for Liddy’s misinformation about what Obama’s grandmother really said about his birthplace, stay for E. Steven Collins’s embarrassing swooning over The One.
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There are a lot of discussions about this. The problem is that the ‘document’ ozero presented was one that can be obtained without having been actually born in Hawaii.
Let’s look at what the left has done to try to take power. Do we all remember the blatant attempt at a coup with the Dan “What’s the frequency Kenneth” Rathner ‘documents’ that ‘proved’ GWB was awol or something like that.
Remember that?? Taking documents produced on Word and trying to pass them off as Selectric written docs… Talk about a blatant attempt.. and, you know what, it almost worked.
1. How many people were involved in creating and passing off these docs that almost changed the course of the election.
2. How many ‘dan rathner papers’ truthers were instrumental in identifying and exposing this
3. How many people are still claiming that these obvious forgeries are legitimate??
4. How many people were prosecuted and went to jail for tampering with a national election??
So, Let’s recap the situation
1. There is no vetting process in place. Therefore it is quite possible that no one has vetted ozeros credentials.
2. He has spent a LOT of money keeping people from seeing the docs
3. He has sealed most of his records
4. What he has offered as ‘proof’ is easily dismissed.
5. He knows he can play the hell out of the race card
6. He knows he can count on the current congress never impeaching him or convicting him.
Also, keep in mind what happened to the major with his TOA. A cute little sidestep of cancelling the orders followed by a JTP type attack of getting him fired.
bullseye on July 25, 2009 at 12:06 AM
You keep linking the same photoshop published by DailyKOS.
Do you believe that DailyKOS is a legitimate source of information?
Rebar on July 25, 2009 at 12:06 AM
This has nothing to do with being born in Hawaii. Nothing to do with his birth at all, actually. And he could have gotten a passport to travel without valid evidence of US citizenship prior to this.
Where’s the evidence that this happened?
LOL that’s some powerful evidence supporting your conspiracy theory right there. I’m convinced.
Good Lt on July 25, 2009 at 12:07 AM
Good Lt on July 25, 2009 at 12:08 AM
Have you provided any evidence proving this is fake, inaccurate, forged or invalid?
The fact that it was published by DKOS (and other places like the Chicago Tribune) is irrelevant to the authenticity of the document. The Hawaiian Dept. of Health has also vouched for its authenticity. Are they all “in on it?” Prove it.
That is not proof that HE DID THIS.
You have to provide evidence that this happened – not speculation that “it could happen.”
Good Lt on July 25, 2009 at 12:11 AM
As far as eligibility goes, who is to say what is secondary? And then who is to say only ‘primary’ documents are allowed?
anuts
After all the lack of transparency and the doubts raised about tampering done to the COLB, WHY is it out of bounds to request verification. Trust but verify as Reagan said. Hopefully, one of the judges will have the nuts to order discovery and put this issue to rest one way or the other. I dont believe anything 100 percent unless its about me and I know for sure. But there have been enough doubts raised about this marxist fool, which have been furthered by his Dr Mysterio approach to his life’s documentation that it should be resolved. The burden shouldn’t be on any American to prove it. The burden should be on him, HE WORKS FOR ALL OF US.
allahallahoxenfree on July 25, 2009 at 12:12 AM
Why is it not resolved by what he has already shown? That has verification of citizenship. It’s still an issue; but no longer a legal one. If you believe his verification is fake, a fraud, or a forgery then the onus is back on you. Until a court order, he is not obliged to show you any more ‘documents’ of your choosing, at your demand. That’s life. That’s legal. And it is no violation of any statute that doesn’t exist.
anuts on July 25, 2009 at 12:13 AM
Who “raised the doubts about tampering,” keeping in mind that the person you’re referring to is a fraud whose only success was raising doubts about his own competence and his own claims (and credentials)?
Here’s your verification.
The “doubts” are only of concern to a handful of conspiracy nutters who can’t accept the more than adequate evidence presented.
Like this guy.
Good Lt on July 25, 2009 at 12:17 AM
Yes or no, do you think the DailyKOS is a legitimate source of information?
Rebar on July 25, 2009 at 12:17 AM
Until a court order, he is not obliged to show you any more ‘documents’ of your choosing, at your demand. That’s life. That’s legal. And it is no violation of any statute that doesn’t exist.
anuts
I agree. The court order that will resolve this either way is what I am hoping for. What exactly do you think it is i want? revolution? him to step down because he has been repeatedly questioned by bloggers? No . I want his eligibility issues court verified.
allahallahoxenfree on July 25, 2009 at 12:18 AM
and by the way, i didnt write that I cut and pasted it from above but agreed with it.
allahallahoxenfree on July 25, 2009 at 12:19 AM
It didn’t originate from Daily Kos. It came from the Hawaiian Dept of Health.
This copy was from the Chicago Tribune.
Good Lt on July 25, 2009 at 12:20 AM
Good Lt on July 25, 2009 at 12:11 AM
Yes or no, do you think the DailyKOS is a legitimate source of information?
Rebar
Save your breath , he’s a thinkprogress or moveon troll
allahallahoxenfree on July 25, 2009 at 12:21 AM
Look. It’s late. I’ve been at my computer for a while now. I’m getting a little testy and short. Frustrated. Not good on my part. I apologize.
I agree with your sentiments on trusting this man. I agree with most of what you said above about this awful mistake our country made last fall. The only thing about this issue is he has met the minimum requirements for POTUS eligibility.
anuts on July 25, 2009 at 12:21 AM
The point is that there should be a vetting process in place to make sure that the person who sits in the oval office is qualified. Do you agree with that?
I mentioned before that when I worked with the Navy, there were ‘instructions’ for every task performed on our compound specifying exactly how things are done. It seems though that there is no such documented process for vetting the president. Do you feel comfortable with that?? I don’t
When I got married, the church vetted the documents of my wife and I. I had a problem in that my original baptismial certificate was in Polski. The priest would not take my word on the contents but had to have it sent out to someone fluent in polish and then checked with the church that issued it. There was a documented process in place.
It is frightening to think that the Franciscans have things more in hand than our government.
If you cannot point to an individual or committe and process that checks to see if the president is qualified, then the FACT is that there has been no vetting. Given that, the FACT is that there is a possibility that we have a usurper.
bullseye on July 25, 2009 at 12:22 AM
And for most things, no – I read other sources to verify.
However, this wasn’t a Daily Kos document. It’s an official govt document from Hawaii published there and elsewhere.
The question, in any event, is irrelevant to the accusations you’re making.
Good Lt on July 25, 2009 at 12:22 AM
The only thing about this issue is he has met the minimum requirements for POTUS eligibility.
anuts
Your trust in politicized Govt bureaucrats and political hacks is misguided and dangerous
allahallahoxenfree on July 25, 2009 at 12:23 AM
Sure, and it happened.
Do you agree? If not, then what evidence are you providing that the vetting process was flawed, corrupted, or not done properly?
So far, nobody has produced any; nor have they produced evidence refuting the COLB as “fake” or “forged” – despite a really lame attempt.
Did you worry about this when Bush was elected and re-elected? Clinton?
That assertion is not in any manner evidence invalidating the COLB or proving that Obama was born somewhere else than where he was born – in Hawaii.
Good Lt on July 25, 2009 at 12:26 AM
So we can’t trust ANYONE.
That’s swell. EVERYONE is in on it or corrupt or “hiding the truth.”
Look over that house! A black helicopter! It’s the government!
Good Lt on July 25, 2009 at 12:27 AM
I want his eligibility issues court verified.
allahallahoxenfree on July 25, 2009 at 12:18 AM
That would be unprecedented and frankly gratuitous. Nothing in the Constitution remotely suggests this is necessary. Those jerks in DC already piss on it. Don’t advocate them making another mockery out it, please.
anuts on July 25, 2009 at 12:27 AM
Possibility =/= probability.
And in this case, the possibility is as remote as Pluto crashing into Idaho. Statistically zero.
Good Lt on July 25, 2009 at 12:28 AM
All lawsuits filed by the Birther kooks over this have been tossed thus far, as will the one by the soldier.
There’s your “court verification.”
And by the way, he’s been inaugurated and has been Prez for seven months. He’s eligible.
Good Lt on July 25, 2009 at 12:30 AM
That would be unprecedented and frankly gratuitous. Nothing in the Constitution remotely suggests this is necessary. Those jerks in DC already piss on it. Don’t advocate them making another mockery out it, please.
anuts
unprecedented I’ll give you. There is a first time for everything. Nothing in the Constitution suggests its necessary? It clearly states 3 simple requirements 14 residency, 35 yoa, NATURAL BORN citizen which he doesn’t meet according to his own website as a dual citizen at birth, not to mention the other issues and the sealing of virtually every record under threat of lawsuit. well its not UNPRECEDENTED. Cant think of the other president in 19th century from VT who had doubts about his father’s citizenship, said it was US but more likely Ireland. Oh BTW, he BURNED all of his records before his death. Thats just a gratuitous coincidence too? Sorry, had a few beers.
allahallahoxenfree on July 25, 2009 at 12:34 AM
OK I’ll bite
All lawsuits filed by the Birther kooks over this have been tossed thus far, as will the one by the soldier.
There’s your “court verification.”
NO evidnece presented, dismissed on standing and other technicalities. NO COURT VERIFICATION YET
And by the way, he’s been inaugurated and has been Prez for seven months. He’s eligible.
Good Lt
Good argument, he hasn’t been caught yet, therefore, he’s legal. I suppose the burglar who broke into your house and evaded arrest never stole your shit either?
allahallahoxenfree on July 25, 2009 at 12:36 AM
I trust in innocent until proven guilty. It is a tenet near and dear. I care not what political persuasion that phrase may protect. I am absolutist on that. We have now moved beyond simple eligibility and are making allegations as to fraud, forgery, obstruction, and perjury. Or a combination of…
That is no longer Obama’s obligation. It is yours.
anuts on July 25, 2009 at 12:36 AM
Why weren’t you doing this for Bush or Clinton? That’s an interesting question Birthers seem wont to answer.
Of which he is all 3.
Good Lt on July 25, 2009 at 12:37 AM
Exactamee.
Good Lt on July 25, 2009 at 12:38 AM
That is no longer Obama’s obligation. It is yours.
UNTIL he is cornered by DUE PROCESS in a court of law. WTF are we arguing about here?
allahallahoxenfree on July 25, 2009 at 12:39 AM
It does not state that a court must verify one’s eligibility.
anuts on July 25, 2009 at 12:40 AM
You keep us posted. I won’t wait up.
You keep saying “yet,” but have produced nothing in the way of evidence supporting that something is going to happen, or that your movement of Birthers has produced a “smoking gun” or “bombshell” or “any evidence at all” that helps your “case.”
Hence, the tossed lawsuits and the latest soon-to-be tossed lawsuit.
This has nothing to do with a burglar stealing anything.
YOU HAVE NO EVIDENCE A CRIME IS BEING COMMITTED. All you have is suspicion. That’s not evidence – that’s a conclusion that you’ve reached without evidence, and you’re trying to work backwards to “prove” your conclusion.
That’s exactly the opposite of how investigations work.
Good Lt on July 25, 2009 at 12:42 AM
Why weren’t you doing this for Bush or Clinton? That’s an interesting question Birthers seem wont to answer.
They didn’t have the exotic world citizen life that the new messiah had, allegedly because he sealed his records! I recall the media mocking Bush’s college grades, which btw were better than Gores generally. Given their orgasmic attitude toward Obama, why haven’t we seen his Magna Cum Laude straight A record that confirms what a genius he is? Oh yeah, he SEALED them. Which is likely because of his admission records more than his actual grades imo
allahallahoxenfree on July 25, 2009 at 12:43 AM
When I said yours; I meant the ‘royal’ yours. As in all who are demanding him to release his original BC and who believe it to be illegal that he is not.
anuts on July 25, 2009 at 12:44 AM
It does not state that a court must verify one’s eligibility.
anuts
You are right, it doesnt stated that in that relatively short document. It doesnt say anything about the Fed Reserve or Cap and Trade but those exist. I know Ive been drinking but seriously WTF is the argument here.
allahallahoxenfree on July 25, 2009 at 12:45 AM
Because their records(birth, school, political, business) were open access. Conversely all of President Obama’s similar records are sealed. This is a question that didn’t really need to be asked.
baldilocks on July 25, 2009 at 12:46 AM
This is not going to happen, because he is not denying anyone “due process.” Not you, not me, not the American people.
He is a natural born citizen born in 1961 in Hawaii of an American citizen mother, and that’s the end of the conspiracy.
Your vapor-filled conspiracy theory sure is confusing, isn’t it?
Birthers are arguing that his COLB is not “valid” or “isn’t enough for verification or something.”
That’s a false claim, unless you’ve got evidence to the contrary. Since you don’t, the conspiracy is debunked.
The end.
Got it?
Good Lt on July 25, 2009 at 12:46 AM
Kinda like when he was asked about his lack of experience, and he pointed out that he’d been campaigning for months.
Jim Treacher on July 25, 2009 at 12:47 AM
Not you too, baldilocks!
Say it ain’t so! :-S
Good Lt on July 25, 2009 at 12:48 AM
I am arguing that he is under zero legal obligation to release his original BC.
anuts on July 25, 2009 at 12:48 AM
Stupid answer to a question = proof of birth certificate forgery or “invalid presidency”?
Nope.
Good Lt on July 25, 2009 at 12:49 AM
You keep us posted. I won’t wait up.
GOOD go back to sleep
You keep saying “yet,”
WE SHALL SEE
This has nothing to do with a burglar stealing anything.
I’m going to go with non -curious dullard as opposed to contrarian douchebag for you
YOU HAVE NO EVIDENCE A CRIME IS BEING COMMITTED. All you have is suspicion. That’s not evidence – that’s a conclusion that you’ve reached without evidence, and you’re trying to work backwards to “prove” your conclusion.
That’s exactly the opposite of how investigations work.
Good Lt
Well good lt, sounds like you are some kinda Barney Fife cop there. SOME investigations are conducted forensicly in that manner. AND all I and most “birthers” are arguing for is a chance in court for discovery, which is not up to you or me or any other loudmouth on this site, but a few judges who hopefully have the nuts to get to the actual evidence that IS sealed by him and put it to rest ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.
allahallahoxenfree on July 25, 2009 at 12:50 AM
His stupid answer to a question = Your stupid answer to a question.
Jim Treacher on July 25, 2009 at 12:50 AM
Mr Treacher,
Any luck with those droids, yet?
anuts on July 25, 2009 at 12:51 AM
Have YOU invalidated the COLB yet, Jim? Has any Birther?
Good Lt on July 25, 2009 at 12:51 AM
I am arguing that he is under zero legal obligation to release his original BC.
anuts
JESUS CHRIST… AND I AGREE, until he is order to by a COURT.
allahallahoxenfree on July 25, 2009 at 12:52 AM
You tell us, you’re the Jedi.
Jim Treacher on July 25, 2009 at 12:53 AM
Have you finished washing the dishes?
Jim Treacher on July 25, 2009 at 12:53 AM
Heh…
anuts on July 25, 2009 at 12:53 AM
He’s provided what is required. You don’t like it.
Too bad. It’s just something you’re going to have to get over.
Good Lt on July 25, 2009 at 12:54 AM
ANUTS
I agree there is no vetting process, not the FEC, not the various SOS, not teh Electoral College. THATS the problem and must now be resolved in COURT. Hopefully Rep Posey’s bill will resolve the issue before the next election
allahallahoxenfree on July 25, 2009 at 12:55 AM
Do you think that is likely to happen?
anuts on July 25, 2009 at 12:55 AM
He’s provided what is required. You don’t like it.
Too bad. It’s just something you’re going to have to get over.
Good Lt
and if/when one of these lawsuits get through and are heard on its merits, you remember your argument
allahallahoxenfree on July 25, 2009 at 12:56 AM
So you haven’t invalidated the COLB yet, then?
What exactly are you doing here, besides slinging mud and huffing at conspiracy fumes?
And he’s not going to be, hoss, because there is no basis or cause to do so. Prepare for letdown in 3…2…1…
Good Lt on July 25, 2009 at 12:57 AM
Would you want to proceed down the ex post facto road?
anuts on July 25, 2009 at 12:57 AM
Do you think that is likely to happen?
anuts
Hopefully, eventually. Apuzzos case sounds promising as does one of the Keyes vs Obama cases
allahallahoxenfree on July 25, 2009 at 12:58 AM
Would you want to proceed down the ex post facto road?
anuts
Its NOT ex post facto it would be effective for the 2012 election
allahallahoxenfree on July 25, 2009 at 12:59 AM
I will. Birthers are batting .000 in court thus far despite numerous attempts by nutburgers like Phillip Berg to “get teh twoof out.”
Good Lt on July 25, 2009 at 12:59 AM
Answer the question. Have you finished washing the dishes?
Jim Treacher on July 25, 2009 at 1:00 AM
OK. I can’t find anything unreasonable with that.
anuts on July 25, 2009 at 1:00 AM
Are you going to be loudly demanding long form birth certificates and ONLY long form birth certificates of every GOP candidate candidate going forth from here until eternity, then?
Good Lt on July 25, 2009 at 1:00 AM
Answer mine first, since I asked it first.
Invalidated the COLB yet?
If not, get to work.
Good Lt on July 25, 2009 at 1:01 AM
Just tell Mr. Treacher ‘those aren’t the dishes your looking for’ and be done with it.
anuts on July 25, 2009 at 1:02 AM
OK. I can’t find anything unreasonable with that.
anuts
we’re good then?
Now about the goodlt who has obviously bungled a great many criminal investigations….
allahallahoxenfree on July 25, 2009 at 1:02 AM
Why are you dodging the question? Did you finish washing the dishes or not?
Jim Treacher on July 25, 2009 at 1:03 AM
I find it interesting that Obama’s first executive order was to seal all his records.
http://edocket.access.gpo.gov/2009/pdf/E9-1712.pdf
Conservalicious on July 25, 2009 at 1:05 AM
Are you going to be loudly demanding long form birth certificates and ONLY long form birth certificates of every GOP candidate candidate going forth from here until eternity, then?
Good Lt
ABSOLUTELY!!
allahallahoxenfree on July 25, 2009 at 1:05 AM
Conservalicious
SHOW HIM THE COLB AGAIN GOOD LT!!
allahallahoxenfree on July 25, 2009 at 1:06 AM
Why are you dodging my question? Did you invalidate the COLB or not?
You first, since I asked first.
Good Lt on July 25, 2009 at 1:07 AM
OK going to bed thanks for the argument ANUTS.
Good Lt please dont reproduce
allahallahoxenfree on July 25, 2009 at 1:09 AM
Kick his ass SeaBass!!!
allahallahoxenfree on July 25, 2009 at 1:10 AM
I’m glad you find that interesting.
Did you invalidate his COLB either?
Good Lt on July 25, 2009 at 1:12 AM
Likewise, my friend. Try to come up with some evidence supporting your conspiracy theory next time.
Excelsior!
Good Lt on July 25, 2009 at 1:13 AM
anuts, good luck. It’s bedtime.
Treacher, get to work invalidating the COLB.
Other HA Birthers, just remember – it’s never too late to turn away from the Alex Jones Whack Pack and their poisonous conspiracy garbage.
Nothing personal. Have a good evening, and I’ll see you in the next Birther thread.
Good Lt on July 25, 2009 at 1:14 AM
From Factcheck.org (which all The One’s sycophants love to quote)
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Can one of you blind believers/ ***”BLEIFERS”*** please explain to us “bithers” how a natural born citizen of the United States can be governed – at birth – by British law?
NightmareOnKStreet on July 25, 2009 at 1:17 AM
Answer the question. Did you finish washing the dishes?
Jim Treacher on July 25, 2009 at 1:25 AM
From THE BEST source of Obama Info on the web “The Obama Files“- includes cached copies of removed docs under a section called “Scrub-A-Dub”
NightmareOnKStreet on July 25, 2009 at 1:28 AM
Read the whole post ramnuts.
PC14 on July 25, 2009 at 1:29 AM
Should have read:
Blind Believers= ***”BLIEFERS”***
NightmareOnKStreet on July 25, 2009 at 1:34 AM
.
FIFY
NightmareOnKStreet on July 25, 2009 at 1:38 AM
Just a sidenote, for what it’s worth, I was a bit curious and did some cursory research.
In the beginning, birth/death/marriage records were all considered “public records”, which as the name suggests, any member of the public could access. The vast majority of presidents would have served in this period and have their records out there for public perusal.
With the advent of “identity theft”, most states adopted legislation that limited access to these records. These laws are wildly varied and some are weird.
For example, in Florida birth certificates that are less than 100 years old are not public records, over they are. In Massachusetts, unless your parents were not married at the time of your birth, birth certificates are available to any member of the public. In Arizona you can look up birth and death certificates online, if births occurred at least 75 years ago and deaths that occurred at least 50 years ago. In Vermont, it seems they are still public records without stipulations.
My opinion is, the founding fathers figured that public records would remain, well, public. A vital safeguard for the republic, public access to public records, has been, through good intentions, removed. There needs to be access for the public to these records, not just for presidential candidates, but for any officeholder that has any kind of requirement.
In the interim, current officeholders should honor the intent of the founding fathers and keep their records open.
Rebar on July 25, 2009 at 1:46 AM
Being the Photoshop geek that I am, I just may take this posted ‘COLB’ and recompose it to show that Ronald Reagan was born in Hawaii. Then I could sit back and watch you scold everyone on how they don’t buy the “evidence.” And I’d be laughing at YOU.
leftnomore on July 25, 2009 at 1:48 AM
Yeah, this seems to spell it out, and I have been a skeptic of the argument. The Pres is a fraud…
http://theobamafile.com/ObamaNaturalBorn.htm
leftnomore on July 25, 2009 at 2:02 AM
777 comments? When did HA become a Nirther site?
hicsuget on July 25, 2009 at 2:27 AM
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AP- you revealed your revealed your bias in the 7-20 thread “Video: Chris Matthews takes on the Birthers. What could go wrong?“ and Jim Treacher called you out on it:
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Now you say:
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1) AP- are you just awakening to that conclusion- after a few thousand HotAir comments on the topic in the last 4 days?
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2) “Bad idea. I sympathize with him wanting to protect
CNN from negative presshis personal bias”. FIFY & YES, I BET YOU DO..
To you & all who BLINDLY BELIEVE Obama’s eligibility is settled law, I baptise you “BLIEFERS”
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NEWSFLASH: “Bliefers”, you can’t put the Jeanie back in the bottle.
NightmareOnKStreet on July 25, 2009 at 2:33 AM
When did repeating cute nicknames become a rebuttal?
Jim Treacher on July 25, 2009 at 2:35 AM
Yeah, this seems to spell it out, and I have been a skeptic of the argument. The Pres is a fraud…
http://theobamafile.com/ObamaNaturalBorn.htm
leftnomore on July 25, 2009 at 2:02 AM
I’d say he is more than a fraud, I’d call him the Trojan Horse.
Conservalicious on July 25, 2009 at 2:35 AM
*cough*
MadisonConservative on July 25, 2009 at 2:36 AM
Go ahead.
Jim Treacher on July 25, 2009 at 2:38 AM
Sorry. Choked on something really rich.
MadisonConservative on July 25, 2009 at 2:39 AM
No rebuttal is necessary to someone who believes in something so stupid. You’re lucky I used a “cute nickname” instead of something more fitting.
hicsuget on July 25, 2009 at 2:41 AM
Sounds really interesting.
Jim Treacher on July 25, 2009 at 2:44 AM
Don’t refrain on my account.
Jim Treacher on July 25, 2009 at 2:45 AM
You’re just mad that no one’s mother will let them sleep with you.
hicsuget on July 25, 2009 at 2:46 AM
That’s food for thought.
Jim Treacher on July 25, 2009 at 2:48 AM
When did repeating hackneyed aphorisms become a rebuttal?
hicsuget on July 25, 2009 at 2:50 AM
I take it this is the first time you’ve ever seen him post.
MadisonConservative on July 25, 2009 at 2:51 AM
What am I rebutting?
Jim Treacher on July 25, 2009 at 2:53 AM
Would it make a difference if I apologized for hurting your feelings?
Jim Treacher on July 25, 2009 at 2:53 AM
Sure, if you had. Don’t stop overestimating your importance on my account, though.
MadisonConservative on July 25, 2009 at 2:56 AM
Now that you mention it, you don’t seem to have any interest in me whatsoever.
Jim Treacher on July 25, 2009 at 2:57 AM
Oh, but I do.
MadisonConservative on July 25, 2009 at 2:58 AM
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