Awesomely awesome: War breaking out among Democrats over ObamaCare

posted at 8:30 pm on July 24, 2009 by Allahpundit

Ed touched on it earlier this afternoon but things seem to have deteriorated further since then. Polite disagreement over the appropriate policy ends? Not so much:

The seven Blue Dogs on the Energy and Commerce Committee stormed out of a Friday meeting with their committee chairman, Henry Waxman (D-Calif.), saying Waxman had been negotiating in bad faith over a number of provisions Blue Dogs demanded be changed in the stalled healthcare bill.

“I’ve been lied to,” Blue Dog Coalition Co-Chairman Charlie Melancon (D-La.) said on Friday. “We have not had legitimate negotiations…

If the two sides cannot reach an agreement, the only hope for passage of the bill in the House will be to go straight to the floor, an option leaders shied away from endorsing but said was an option.

But the Blue Dogs issued dire warnings to leaders contemplating that approach.

“Waxman simply does not have votes in committee and process should not be bypassed to bring the bill straight to floor,” Rep. Mike Ross (D-Ark.), the lead Blue Dog negotiator, said on Friday. “We are trying to save this bill and trying to save this party.”

Melancon claims there are 40-45 “hard no” votes right now; it’s unclear to what extent that number overlaps with the 40 potential no’s if the bill ends up with a provision funding abortion. Rather than blather on, though, I’ll hand you over to this enjoyable report from FNC about the ongoing meltdown. Pay particular attention to what James Clyburn has to say about the extent of the infighting. What a week.


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Maybe you guys are right. We’re being lulled into a false sense of complacency designed to back us off the Blue Dogs. They need breathing room.

Deny it.

ted c on July 24, 2009 at 9:21 PM

A young border agent was murdered last night execution style. He was tracking some people. It’s in a remote area. There is no fence because they don’t want to spend the money. Virtual fences are a joke. So, this canyon is a popular area to smuggle. The agents these days are very young and inexperienced and have to patrol alone. The Ramos and Campean affair (thank your AP and Patterico) has scared them into being reluctant to be aggressive. Now we have a dead agent and a fatherless 3 year old and 11 month old. I’m sure you cop haters will be pleased.

Blake on July 24, 2009 at 9:22 PM

Gee, the Blue Dogs don’t want to follow Waxman, Emmanuel and Obama’s instructions and commit political suicide. A potential Claude Rains Award winner here.

jon1979 on July 24, 2009 at 8:33 PM

So they’ll just have to find a dozen “republicans”.

LibTired on July 24, 2009 at 9:22 PM

And yet a healthcare bill will still pass after August. Republicans are impotent.

dcwvu on July 24, 2009 at 9:15 PM

No it won’t, why do you think there is a big rush to get a vote before the August break? They know that the earful that the blue dogs and the rest of the dems are going to get from their home districts going into an election year will kill it for good.

See HillaryCare, same scenario.

conservnut on July 24, 2009 at 9:23 PM

If the “blue dogs” are conservative then why are they demorats?

farright on July 24, 2009 at 9:23 PM

Despite the progress, House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer (D-Md.) told the House that the chances were “very small” that a bill would be ready for a vote before the start of the August recess in a week – even though House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and President Obama have pushed hard for the deadline.

“The Speaker and I both had the hope that we could pass the bill on July 31st – my view is at this time that might not be possible,” he said.

Later, after huddling with Pelosi and other top Democrats, Hoyer said there was a remote chance that the House could push the deadline through the weekend and vote on a bill by the first week of August.

“We might be meeting on Saturday or maybe the third or the fourth,” he said.

From Politico.

Wethal on July 24, 2009 at 9:28 PM

Hannity is on the case! Up next, reviewing Obama’s pitch at the All-Star game and who he looks like!

Hannity… time slot hit.

mankai on July 24, 2009 at 9:20 PM

How come I’m not surprised- they need to rent Rush when the big stuff comes up- Shawn get ADD to much

jjshaka on July 24, 2009 at 9:30 PM

If the “blue dogs” are conservative then why are they demorats?

farright on July 24, 2009 at 9:23 PM

They aren’t conservative, but they are democrats from more conservative districts whose base stayed home in the last election due to there disgust with the GOP and our weak assed candidate for POTUS. These guys rode into town on the coattails of the messiah. Now they are hearing a lot of noise from the home districts and looking at some scary polling data.

Remember what drives a democrat, his desire to stay in power, these folks don’t stand on principle, but we can always count on them to serve their own interests.

conservnut on July 24, 2009 at 9:30 PM

Blue dog = dumdocrat that might just be able to balance a checkbook or oppose abortion. Do not think for one minute that they are on the side of freedom, remember cap-n-tax and porkulous.

farright on July 24, 2009 at 9:31 PM

Someone may have already said this:

Regarding that little WH presser to talk about Gatesgate,
MISSION ACCOMPLISHED.

He was there to talk about ANYTHING other than the health care bill. Just as he had planned.

keebs on July 24, 2009 at 9:31 PM

These guys got elected for such a time as this. Do not think for a second that they will not be persuaded to vote now and care little for their constituents. Seriously…this is THE chance to get their ONE project through. They will NEVER get this chance again. Every democrat has wanted this and every democrat will feel the pressure to get on board. And, once it’s in, it’s a lock. We will not have power (in the same way) again. It will not be dismantled.

Mommypundit on July 24, 2009 at 9:31 PM

I wonder if Obama has this on his iPod?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVGSKVkkyhc

mizflame98 on July 24, 2009 at 9:32 PM

There are still two big issues that could cause more Dem fighting, albeit not necessarily fatal fighting for the bill.

Whether there is a public plan.

And abortion coverage as an essential service in the public (or even the government-approved, private “Exchange” plans.

Wethal on July 24, 2009 at 9:32 PM

This is good but it is far from over. Drive a stake through it’s heart, light it on fire and whip out the chain saw.

Texas74 on July 24, 2009 at 9:34 PM

He was there to talk about ANYTHING other than the health care bill. Just as he had planned.

keebs on July 24, 2009 at 9:31 PM

You are probably right. I wasn’t distracted by this, actually. I know Obama is a racist jerk, so, nothing surprises me.

What I am concerned about is another bill being passed under the radar being like the healthcare bill and, given our attention to this one, the real stealthy bill is easily passed. Keep alert.

Mommypundit on July 24, 2009 at 9:34 PM

And yet a healthcare bill will still pass after August. Republicans are impotent.

dcwvu on July 24, 2009 at 9:15 PM

Maybe they will take the blue pill and Boener them.

farright on July 24, 2009 at 9:35 PM

Please pop over to the Yon thread.

Cindy Munford on July 24, 2009 at 9:38 PM

The “blue dogs” are definitely going to find their feet after this debacle, and they ARE the ones that can continue to keep the GOP down.

Don’t be fooled for a minute though. Rahm the back stabbing bastarrd is the one that helped the ranks of the blue dogs to grow, and I do believe this is why.

Just as I am positive that this Gates business in concert with the phaux Boxer kerfluffle is just distraction to give pelosi room to threaten people back in goose step to get these fascist bills out the door when nobody is looking.

Yes, I do believe that. Otherwise obama would have actually apologized for his ‘stupid’ comment instead of verbally massaging it in slow motion walkback fashion. If he didn’t want the distraction, he would have completely disposed of the issue with an actual apology.

This is pure BS kids, don’t get played. The libs are getting played like cheap pianos and loving every minute of it. Time to educate the ‘stupid’ people.

Spiritk9 on July 24, 2009 at 9:45 PM

Friday night viewing pleasure:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hj01Sqi0zic

Keemo on July 24, 2009 at 9:45 PM

I feel like Emperor Palpatine from Star Wars.

“Goooood…..GOOOOOOD!!!!!!!!!!!!”

(Good thing I don’t look like him…..Insert Helen Thomas comparison here.)

Hawkins1701 on July 24, 2009 at 9:47 PM

A Blue Dog Democrat is just a cross-dressing Liberal.

TexasJew on July 24, 2009 at 9:49 PM

And yet a healthcare bill will still pass after August. Republicans are impotent.

dcwvu on July 24, 2009 at 9:15 PM

But it’s your wonderful donkeycrats who are causing all the trouble in your workers paradise….BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

As your dear leaders numbers slip, so does his influence. Looks like Carter is no longer our worst prez ever.

Fighton03 on July 24, 2009 at 9:56 PM

Friday night viewing pleasure:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hj01Sqi0zic

Keemo on July 24, 2009 at 9:45 PM

Very enjoyable

Jeff from WI on July 24, 2009 at 9:58 PM

I’ve been lied to,” Blue Dog Coalition Co-Chairman Charlie Melancon (D-La.) said on Friday. “We have not had legitimate negotiations

How’s that BEEEG tent work’n out for ya there slick?

Speakup on July 24, 2009 at 9:59 PM

No. Blue dogs are actually liberal women who’ve had an addadicktome

texaninfidel on July 24, 2009 at 9:59 PM

Civil War?

I know………..racist!!

NoFanofLibs on July 24, 2009 at 10:00 PM

This warms the cockles of my heart.

Also a few other things.

salmonczar on July 24, 2009 at 10:03 PM

The Blue Dogs are gutless. They’ll cave in the end.

Jeff from WI on July 24, 2009 at 10:04 PM

And yet a healthcare bill will still pass after August. Republicans are impotent.

dcwvu on July 24, 2009 at 9:15 PM
But it’s your wonderful donkeycrats who are causing all the trouble in your workers paradise….BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

As your dear leaders numbers slip, so does his influence. Looks like Carter is no longer our worst prez ever.

Fighton03 on July 24, 2009 at 9:56 PM

Oh boy, he’s back!!!!! Break out the champagne! We’re gonna have universal healthcare in two months! Yipeeeeeeeeeee! And then monkeys will jump outa my ass and sing “Happy Days Are Here Again!”

NathanG on July 24, 2009 at 10:09 PM

You are probably right. I wasn’t distracted by this, actually. I know Obama is a racist jerk, so, nothing surprises me.

Well, given the fact he spent so much time listening to Jeremiah Wright…..

Or, Obama could just be a shameless political opportunist….

Or maybe he’s some of both. I’m sure the MSM will ask him now….

tgharris on July 24, 2009 at 10:10 PM

I told ya. Its like the parent eating the child. They destroy one another. Why would they care about us?

johnnyU on July 24, 2009 at 10:13 PM

We still have to keep the pressure up to be sure, this is far from won, but at the moment there is a deadlock. At this point, I am willing to support (read pressure)the Blue Dogs since the GOP does not have the power to stop this on their own. Saving the country from Healthcare is the priority at the moment, these turkeys have voted yes on enough of BamBam’s crap to sink them, along with his sinking poll numbers when the time is right.

Govgirl on July 24, 2009 at 10:23 PM

And yet a healthcare bill will still pass after August. Republicans are impotent.

dcwvu on July 24, 2009 at 9:15 PM

someone is getting worried

laughable

You realize you are such a tool. You don’t want the government in your personal life but you want them to have this much say about your health. Seems inconsistent but I know you are challenged.

CWforFreedom on July 24, 2009 at 10:25 PM

keep your eyes on the ball. keep calling the damn idjits in Washington.

NO Congressperson is your friend until you personally see his/her name in the “Nay” column.

keep up the pressure.

i’m going to my congressman’s office next week because i’m just so pissed. (perriello, 5CD, Va–dem)

kelley in virginia on July 24, 2009 at 10:33 PM

LOL, the Blue Dogs must be absolutely giddy with their new found relevance.

I’m just happy to sit back and enjoy this show.

marmaran on July 24, 2009 at 10:43 PM

Friday night viewing pleasure.

Keemo on July 24,2009 at 9:45PM.

Keemo: Thank-you,and it’s awesomely good:)

canopfor on July 24, 2009 at 10:54 PM

The Blue Dogs owe Rahm Emanuel for their very existence in D.C., and they’re going to cross him.

They are were they are because they’re willing to compromise anything for power. Conservative enough to get elected, not conservative enough to do anything meaningful. Oh wait, that’s the Republicans.

spmat on July 24, 2009 at 10:58 PM

To wit, the Blue Dogs won’t do sh…

spmat on July 24, 2009 at 10:58 PM

SilverStar830 on July 24, 2009 at 8:55 PM

This is exactly my impression of Waxman. I’m sorry the guy got swirlied every day in school, but I don’t appreciate him taking it out on me.

Jim Treacher on July 24, 2009 at 10:59 PM

Blake on July 24, 2009 at 9:22 PM

OT, but let’s keep this young man’s family in our thoughts and prayers. I weep…RIP

MalindaH on July 24, 2009 at 11:21 PM

Killing Border Patrol agents: A job Americans won’t do.

Thanks, George W.

guntotinglibertarian on July 24, 2009 at 11:31 PM

A Blue Dog Democrat is just a cross-dressing Liberal.

TexasJew on July 24, 2009 at 9:49 PM

I almost have more respect for the straight-out-front wacko Leftists.

The blue dogs will, inevitably, fall in line behind Pelosi.

What we need to do is to keep the Repubs 100% on the right side of the vote, so as the idiot voters wake up to what a nightmare this bill is, they rise up against the Dems in 2010. If even a few Repubs give credence to this thing, we’re sunk.

guntotinglibertarian on July 24, 2009 at 11:36 PM

I don’t know why Rahm and Nancy are insisting on a vote before the August recess. They don’t have the votes to pass this abomination in the House. Plus, vulnerable Dems are not going to walk the plank for Nancy after the capntax disaster.

I actually hope that Sen Finance gets abomination number 3 passed out of committee. Then, we roll into the August recess with 2 horrendous pieces of legislation from the Senate (HELP committee and Sen Finance) rotting in the sun, ready to be picked apart by bloggers, interest groups, etc. And the poll numbers will continue to sink.

While this is fun, the Repubs need to put out a ONE PAGE summary of their plan, emphasizing med mal reform, administrative savings, more freedom to pedal low cost policies across state lines, equalizing individual and corporate tax treatment of benefit costs, etc.

Ya can’t just be against something. Healthcare will still be a problem even after the good ship O is sunk.

johnboy on July 24, 2009 at 11:38 PM

“I’ve been lied to,” Blue Dog Coalition Co-Chairman Charlie Melancon (D-La.) said

Wow

Del Dolemonte on July 24, 2009 at 11:40 PM

I don’t know why Rahm and Nancy are insisting on a vote before the August recess. They don’t have the votes to pass this abomination in the House.

johnboy on July 24, 2009 at 11:38 PM

They will have less chance to get the votes after all the congressmen go home for August and get an earful from the 85% of voters who like their health care just the way it is.

Vashta.Nerada on July 24, 2009 at 11:42 PM

Typical of Nostrildamus (Waxman) to be back stabbing his own committee members while nefariously giving the impression he’s on board with them.

Waxman’s such a descpicable little turd. He probably can’t help it though. I imagine it’s the result of something tantamount to PTSD. I can easily picture him being beat up for his lunch money and having his underoo’s wedgied every single day of his life when he was a kid. For Nostrildamus, his adult station is now all about payback time and underhandedly sabotaging the ‘big kids’ while feigning allegiance and camaraderie just so he can get what he wants, or get what his boss wants… just so he can ingraciate himself with the boss.

He’s such a cowardly little insect of a man.

SilverStar830 on July 24, 2009 at 8:55 PM

QFT. I hate this guy. With a passion.

fossten on July 24, 2009 at 11:43 PM

These Blue dogs got (and should still be getting hammered) for their CapandTax votes. Fool them once, shame on you, fool them twice shame on them.

blue dogs need jobs too

make them work for them

ted c on July 24, 2009 at 8:57 PM
********************************************************
I have heard this here and elsewhere that the blue dogs voted for Cap & Trade & “walked the plank” etc. I don’t see that. I’m not picking on you ted c, just the statement; if you are still here, could you clarify, or if someone else could. Thank you

bluefox on July 24, 2009 at 11:49 PM

This is all a ruse, show me when the Blue Dogs have ever come through. It’s all posturing to say they pushed for a change here or there when they go back to their more conservative constituencies.

Nail all of them to crosses.

John_Locke on July 24, 2009 at 11:53 PM

Friday night viewing pleasure:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hj01Sqi0zic

Keemo on July 24, 2009 at 9:45 PM
Very enjoyable

Jeff from WI on July 24, 2009 at 9:58 PM

Before I look, please let me know if it’s an Obama video.
I refuse to watch him, at all costs. It’s my way of getting small satisfactions, however meager.

betsyz on July 25, 2009 at 12:17 AM

johnboy on July 24, 2009 at 11:38 PM

Quit fighting on the field chosen by the Dems. Health Care is not the problem. Payment systems for Health Care is the problem. We need to shift the playing field or we lose.

chemman on July 25, 2009 at 12:22 AM

I don’t follow the blue dogs that much, but on the Cap & Trade bill in the House, there were 29 blue dogs that voted NO. Of course we have the 8 Republicans that voted YES on our radar:)

bluefox on July 25, 2009 at 12:24 AM

All the blue dogs and repubs should receive a can of tar, a bag of feathers and a railroad tie delivered each day to their offices until this dies the death it deserves. A picture speaks a 1000 words. What better picture than letting them see exactly how we feel.

chemman on July 25, 2009 at 12:26 AM

And yet a healthcare bill will still pass after August. Republicans are impotent.

dcwvu on July 24, 2009 at 9:15 PM

Republicans are impotent, but conservatives aren’t. That’s why your messiah is floundering, dude.

ddrintn on July 25, 2009 at 12:32 AM

Before I look, please let me know if it’s an Obama video.
I refuse to watch him, at all costs. It’s my way of getting small satisfactions, however meager.

betsyz on July 25, 2009 at 12:17 AM

ohhhhh, It’s good!

Fighton03 on July 25, 2009 at 1:07 AM

They will have less chance to get the votes after all the congressmen go home for August and get an earful from the 85% of voters who like their health care just the way it is.

Vashta.Nerada on July 24, 2009 at 11:42 PM

Cause Obie will spin the loss on the EVIL pub’s that he inherited from BOOOOOSH. And the Blue dogs will get to say they resisted Obie when they come up for re-election in 2010.

I’m in awe of the absolute Evil of this plan.

Fighton03 on July 25, 2009 at 1:10 AM

They will have less chance to get the votes after all the congressmen go home for August and get an earful from the 85% of voters who like their health care just the way it is.

Vashta.Nerada on July 24, 2009 at 11:42 PM

Cause Obie will spin the loss on the EVIL pub’s that he inherited from BOOOOOSH. And the Blue dogs will get to say they resisted Obie when they come up for re-election in 2010.

I’m in awe of the absolute Evil of this plan.

Fighton03 on July 25, 2009 at 1:11 AM

carp…sry for the double post.

Fighton03 on July 25, 2009 at 1:12 AM

War breaking out among Democrats

Pillow fight or waterguns?

Limerick on July 25, 2009 at 2:14 AM

I’m getting real tired of hearing Dems and Reps trying to “save this party”.Screw your party,save this COUNTRY.

DDT on July 25, 2009 at 2:31 AM

And then monkeys will jump outa my ass and sing “Happy Days Are Here Again!”

NathanG on July 24, 2009 at 10:09 PM

Now that’s what I call a real Youtube moment. Don’t forget to post the link.

platypus on July 25, 2009 at 2:42 AM

Don’t let up on the Blue Dogs. They are all being pressured to vote for the Health Scam and the President’s goons will do anything to get this vote through.

yoda on July 25, 2009 at 4:27 AM

The ideal plan by the Democrats is that some of the Blue Dogs vote for cap & trade, and some don’t, to maintain some sort of viability back home, while on health care, a few different Blue Dogs vote for it to get it across the finish line, while others don’t, again to maintain their viability for the 2010 elections.

The problem is the health care bill has become so toxic that virtually none of the Blue Dogs want to take the bullet on this one, because they fear this is an issue that voters are going to remember all the way to next November. So that’s the problem for Obama, Rahm, Pelosi, Waxman, etc., and trying to play hardball on it with the Blue Dogs while the polls are all headed towards Antarctica has made things even worse for them.

They might still get enough Blue Dogs to get in through the House, but chances are whoever did give in would end up like Marjorie Margolies-Mezvinsky, who was elected to Congress in 1992 from suburban Philadelphia running like Bill Clinton as a moderate Democrat. She then had her arm twisted by the Clintonites to cast the deciding vote in the House in ’93 for Clinton’s budget and tax hikes, and thanks to that, was ex-congresswoman Marjorie Margolies-Mezvinsky by January of 1995.

jon1979 on July 25, 2009 at 5:18 AM

I’d prefer a plague breaking out between the Democrats.

Jeff from WI on July 25, 2009 at 6:14 AM

The Democratic leadership wanted those blue dogs to help them gain control of the House, but then they did not want to have to listen to their concerns or opinions. Stupid.

Terrye on July 25, 2009 at 7:18 AM

because i am the best wife evah, i’m going with my husband to Bass Pro Shop today (& to some gun stores–naturally).

i called my congressman yesterday–at all his offices.

i’ll go back to emailing when i get home.

kelley in virginia on July 25, 2009 at 8:14 AM

kelley in virginia on July 25, 2009 at 8:14 AM

And a lucky guy he is to be blessed with such a wife.
Blessings!

OmahaConservative on July 25, 2009 at 8:26 AM

was ex-congresswoman Marjorie Margolies-Mezvinsky by January of 1995.

jon1979 on July 25, 2009 at 5:18 AM

I guess there are no hard feelings in the family towards the Clintons for that. From wiki:

She was married to former Iowa Congressman Edward Mezvinsky. Their son, Marc Mezvinsky, is currently dating Chelsea Clinton, the daughter of former President Clinton and U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton.

misslizzi on July 25, 2009 at 8:50 AM

I SAID THIS IN NOV. OBAMA WILL DESTROY THE DEMORCAT PARTY SEEMS HE IS GETTING VERY CLOSE TO IT

rone5847 on July 25, 2009 at 8:52 AM

People are just now beginning to realize that health care reform and government take-over of health care are two seperate issues, one having support of the people and the other one not. If we had term limits or people were smart enough to vote in new blood, things would get done. The smartest question now asked a career politition is ” will you opt out of your government run program to be a part of what you’re proposong to American.”

Is anyone surprised that the answer is an overwhelming NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO

Send these sleazy bastards home.

bluegrass on July 25, 2009 at 9:17 AM

farright on July 24, 2009 at 9:31 PM

Sure you were’nt talking about the Meghan McCain, Peggy Noonan, Christie Todd Whitman, Kathleen Parker, John McCain, Lindsay Graham wing of the GOP?

davecatbone on July 25, 2009 at 9:26 AM

They’re waking up to the fact that Obama is a scorched earth guy. He will throw ANYONE under the bus to advance his agenda. These folks KNOW that they will be crucified in 2010 and beyond, and Obama doesn’t care as long as he can get healthcare done. I’d be mad too if the leader of my party was walking me off a cliff while smiling at me on the way down.

marklmail on July 25, 2009 at 10:37 AM

Only one question I can think of. Why the f**k are these people Dems to begin with?

angryed on July 25, 2009 at 10:51 AM

He could be as vague and stupid as he wanted during his speech, because he had an ace up his sleeve. The plant. The message to Blue Dawg Dems is, “Give me this health care bill or blacks will riot. In your constituency.”
Do you see what he’s done? Do you see? He’s turned the heath care question into a race riot. Maybe a parting shot until later in the year, but it doesn’t get uglier than this. Vicious little man.

It’s just because Obama is so weak that he’s dangerous, because he’s not [as POTUS] in a weak position. He’s abusing his power of state very greatly.

He may be weak, but he won’t hesitate to use his great power as a bludgeon, even against his own party, and at the great expense of the nation. This is unconscionable.

skree on July 25, 2009 at 12:38 PM

Dummy of the Year:

“I’ve been lied to,” Blue Dog Coalition Co-Chairman Charlie Melancon (D-La.) said on Friday. “We have not had legitimate negotiations…”

patch on July 25, 2009 at 4:12 PM

If even a few Repubs give credence to this thing, we’re sunk.

guntotinglibertarian on July 24, 2009 at 11:36 PM

There will be Snowe and Collins, but the “R” is meaningless in their case.

evergreen on July 26, 2009 at 2:38 AM

They’ll eventually cave in, watch. Obama will use Chicago thug style politics on these guys- they’ll dig up dirt and start insurgency campaigns against them. They’re Democrats for a reason, they want power. And they don’t want to lose it.

Cr4sh Dummy on July 26, 2009 at 4:10 AM

I thought they were all unified behind the pseudo-messiah.
All I ever read from Obamatons, is that the Republicans are the ones who are disunified and disorganized, and facing extinction.
While this may not be a sign that the Democrats are facing trouble, as far as elections go, it certainly doesn’t make them look unified at all!

Needless to say, I love it!

ToddonCapeCod on July 26, 2009 at 9:56 AM

Waxman’s weasleness is going to be the undoing of The One’s Health Oneness.

shaken on July 26, 2009 at 2:50 PM

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