Obama presser: What was the point?

posted at 8:47 am on July 23, 2009 by Ed Morrissey

When a president calls a prime-time press conference, it traditionally means that the White House has some new strategy, message, or policy creation that they want to reveal with a big flourish.  For at least the second time in a row, Barack Obama demanded valuable prime-time real estate and the nation’s attention in order to repeat the same lines he’s used for the last two months on health care.  Obama failed to present a single new idea, proposal, or even argument that had not already been floated from Obama himself and the White House in the full-court press over the last 10 days in Obama’s media appearances.

Well, except for the new notion of predatory tonsillectomies.  Let me tell you a story about tonsillectomies.  My son could not get one for over four years because the HMO that covered him didn’t want to spend the money.  Only when we transferred him to my insurance could we get a pediatrician who would do it (who happened to be his original pediatrician) — and who pronounced the other doctors as idiots for letting them go that long.  Fortunately, I could choose insurance plans and doctors.  The incentives are set up against tonsillectomies, not favoring them, mainly because a few experts decided a few decades ago that they were generally unnecessary.

In ObamaCare, those experts will be in charge of all doctors.

Howard Kurtz remarked on Twitter immediately after the conclusion that Obama once again failed to have a consistent and understandable message in the presser.  It went farther than that, though; Obama not only failed to have a message, he also failed to answer most of the questions.  He talked endlessly after being asked them, a strategy obviously designed to cut down on questions through filibustering, but he didn’t answer the questions.

When he talked at length, though, he made some pretty interesting mistakes, such as this:

The one commitment that I’ve been clear about is I don’t want that final one-third of the cost of health care to be completely shouldered on the backs of middle class families who are already struggling in a difficult economy.

And so, if I see a proposal that is primarily funded through taxing middle class families, I’m going to be opposed to that because I think there are better ideas to do it.

Actually, until that statement, Obama had clearly told the middle class that their taxes would go down, not up.  Now he’s saying that he won’t support a system primarily funded by the middle class, which seems to imply that he won’t mind one that taxes the middle class to provide some of the funding.  And Obama wouldn’t even commit to a veto — just that he would “be opposed to that” approach.

And while we’re chewing over the weird attack on doctors as greedy vultures who prey on the throats of innocent little children, let’s not forget the odd, resurrected references to two organizations opposed to ObamaCare:

Right now, doctors a lot of times are forced to make decisions based on the fee payment schedule that’s out there. So if they’re looking and you come in and you’ve got a bad sore throat or your child has a bad sore throat or has repeated sore throats, the doctor may look at the reimbursement system and say to himself, “You know what? I make a lot more money if I take this kid’s tonsils out.”

Now, that may be the right thing to do, but I’d rather have that doctor making those decisions just based on whether you really need your kid’s tonsils out or whether it might make more sense just to change — maybe they have allergies. Maybe they have something else that would make a difference.

So — so part of what we want do is to free doctors, patients, hospitals to make decisions based on what’s best for patient care. And that’s the whole idea behind Mayo. That’s the whole idea behind the Cleveland Clinic.

Except both the Mayo Clinic and the Cleveland Clinic oppose ObamaCare.  Mayo’s statement made headlines; surely someone mentioned this to the President?

Finally, let’s look at the press last night.  They only got a few bites at the apple thanks to Obama’s filibusters, but overall did a little better than I’d expected.  Most of the questions were challenging in some degree, except for Lynn Sweet’s inexplicable desire to get Obama to talk about the Henry Gates incident, and Obama’s inexplicable desire to opine without the facts as he himself admitted.  (Jules Crittenden has a useful post about this today.)  However, I also notice that not one reporter asked Obama why he postponed issuing the budget numbers for a month in the middle of this debate, which is directly related to the health-care issue.  I’d call that a big-time fail for the White House press corps, which supposedly exists to ensure accountability.

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He may not invent new words the way George W. Bush did, but the White House better seriously think about limiting Obama’s appearances in a Bush like manner, because at least the former president knew what he was trying to say, even if it came out at odds with Noah Webster’s word list. Obama can say nothing for 11 minutes without a diction error, but the content of his remarks is either vapid or causes more problems than it creates (as the greedy doctors and stupid police can tell you after last night).

jon1979 on July 23, 2009 at 9:16 AM

As logical as that suggestion is, that is the one thing that Obama and his cult CANNOT do.

Obama rose to where he is by the power of smoke, mirrors, teleprompter, and his cult of personality.

The Obamadroids MUST hear from their Dear Leader often or the Kool-Aid might wear off.

The delusion is that they think this applies to everyone else as well. Fact of the matter is that 51% of the electorate fell for the slick packaging and the “coolness” of the moment of electing a black President, enough to ignore his complete lack of substance.

They are having buyer’s remorse now.

As I said to someone at work today, I think that EVERY generation needs to experience a “Jimmy Carter” so they have a LIVING memory of how bad things can be, so they don’t make that mistake again.

wildcat84 on July 23, 2009 at 9:20 AM

..it looked like the teleprompter was randomly
generating answers…

highhopes on July 23,2009 at 9:14AM

highhopes: Now that funny,and a helluva good SNL skit right
there!haah:)

canopfor on July 23, 2009 at 9:21 AM

Obama has bought into his myth that he has a gift for persuading the people.

Just having the presser is all Obama thinks he needs to do. It’s not a matter of how well he does at the presser or how he answers questions.

Somebody built this Obama monster and now the monster has bought into the myth.

myrenovations on July 23, 2009 at 9:21 AM

My daughter finally had her tonsils out, after years of trouble, earlier this summer. She is breathing much better, and that has improved all aspects of her health.

Her regular pediatritian was satisfied to ignore the swelling and treat the repeated infections with antibiotics. Eventually we got a second opinion, from an out-of-network doctor, who convinced us that removing the tonsils was the way to go.

It wasn’t cheap, but it was worth every penny. I guess we could have found an in-network surgeon to do the work, but cutting into my child’s head is not something I leave to low-bid contracting.

There will always be disagreements on medical approach. To say that doctors are, generally speaking, driven into removing tonsils by the reimbursement rate is just stupid. Nobody is making huge profits on these surgeries. But a government bureaucrat looking at nothing but the bottom line would never approve one, as long as generic antibiotics are so cheap.

gridlock2 on July 23, 2009 at 9:21 AM

One pill makes you larger,
And one pill makes you small.
And the ones that Obama gives you,
Don’t do anything at all,

Go ask Granny,
When she’s just had a fall….

bloggless on July 23, 2009 at 9:03 AM

OHHH, there it is—that’s funny, an’ I KNOW FUNNY–that’s FUNNY

ted c on July 23, 2009 at 9:04 AM

I don’t think it’s too funny. My 89-year-old father is convalescing from a fall that broke his femur. He had state-of-the-art surgery to place a carbon-fiber rod in his leg. We had to fight Medicare to keep him in the hospital for two more days after his blood pressure crashed. Believe it or not, most hospitals will not let you pay out of your own pocket for additional days that Medicare refuses to cover. Their accounting systems are not set up for it. So if Medicare says you go home, you go home.

This is what will happen to all of us under ObamaCare. Doctors cannot order additional days in the hospital, if the government says the patient must go home. Women having C-sections and mastectomies will be sent home the next day, in excruciating pain. 89-year-olds like my Dad simply will not get surgery to fix a broken leg, they will get a cast and some painkillers and will end up invalids who will die shortly thereafter from an embolism because they can’t get up and move around.

rockmom on July 23, 2009 at 9:21 AM

Last night, Obama seemed to move away from “health care reform”, and reframe it as ” health insurance reform”. Polls are slipping on the issue, so time to start stoking the populist outrage fires.

ICBM on July 23, 2009 at 9:21 AM

The point was to show the country that he will incite racial tensions if he doesn’t get his way.

faraway on July 23, 2009 at 9:14 AM

bingo, but demographically better now than later….

he throws that card history will not be kind and we may actually get around to deportations when the dust settles.

sven10077 on July 23, 2009 at 9:22 AM

I think he was using the “stupid” and white Cambridge, MA police as a proxy for the “stupid” and white Congressmen who happen to be opposing his legislation.

shrewd.

ted c on July 23, 2009 at 9:22 AM

And so, if I see a proposal that is primarily funded through taxing middle class families, I’m going to be opposed to that because I think there are better ideas to do it.

Actually we already have a taxation system that is “primarily” funded by taxing the top 25% but I suspect most middle-class families (including mine) feel like we are paying a hefty amount.

peterargus on July 23, 2009 at 9:22 AM

sorry rockmom–please pardon the humor. I am sorry about your father.

ted c on July 23, 2009 at 9:23 AM

Maybe he should bring the pillars back out. That might help persuade people more.

Thunderstorm129 on July 23, 2009 at 9:23 AM

One pill makes you larger,
And one pill makes you small.
And the ones that Obama gives you,
Don’t do anything at all,

Go ask Granny,
When she’s just had a fall….

bloggless on July 23, 2009 at 9:03 AM

*turfmann laughs so hard he looses bladder control – then contemplates whether its a diagnosis that will be covered under obamacare*

turfmann on July 23, 2009 at 9:23 AM

I can’t watch the man anymore, not even little clips. I’m trying to figure out how in the world we could have elected such a bold faced liar to lead the country. That, to me, is a bigger problem than health care. It’s plain to see that what really needs to be reformed is the way our nation is governed. The perfect example? Porkulus. The majority of Americans didn’t want it, yet somehow it was rammed down our throats. And for what? Has ANYTHING improved as a result of this spending? Anything? For the love of God, we’ve got to fix the government before we can even hope to fix anything else.

scalleywag on July 23, 2009 at 9:23 AM

I wonder what the audience numbers were

unseen on July 23, 2009 at 9:07 AM

Yeah, I’m waiting on this as well, along with polling results.

wildcat84 on July 23, 2009 at 9:14 AM

Me too. And I’m dyin’ to hear what Charles Krauthammer has to say. I expect it’ll be devastating.

Waterloooooooooooooo!

petefrt on July 23, 2009 at 9:23 AM

He looked sad—do you think the loss of TOTUS is aching him a bit deep down in his soul…?

ted c on July 23, 2009 at 9:23 AM

Such an odd question so out of place you almost have to believe it was a plant and timed for effect.

Thunderstorm129 on July 23, 2009 at 9:19 AM

CNN had one hour specials before and immediately after Obama’s speech featuring the racist Gates.

faraway on July 23, 2009 at 9:24 AM

Look at how farmers treat livestock. Instead of treating infections, they just mix antibiotics into their feed. If the livestock had the intelligence, and some say in the matter, they might not want to take antibiotics when they are generally healthy. But they have no say. The farmer makes all the decisions, and the easy decision is to give them antibiotics, whether they are sick or not.

This is what government-run health care will be like. Eventually, they will just start mixing antibiotics in with our feed.

gridlock2 on July 23, 2009 at 9:24 AM

And I’m dyin’ to hear what Charles Krauthammer has to say

.

Chuck K indicated that he thought this speech was fabulous in its deception…

ted c on July 23, 2009 at 9:24 AM

Obama can say nothing for 11 minutes without a diction error, but the content of his remarks is either vapid or causes more problems than it creates (as the greedy doctors and stupid police can tell you after last night).

jon1979 on July 23, 2009 at 9:16 AM

You got that right jon.

I’ve come across a number of people like Obama in the business world over the years. They are articulate and rattle off sentences with an impressive vocabulary. They know how to present themselves and have memorized many words, but deep down, when it comes to thinking on their feet – they stumble and fall, like our leader.

fogw on July 23, 2009 at 9:25 AM

CNN had one hour specials before and immediately after Obama’s speech featuring the racist Gates.

faraway on July 23, 2009 at 9:24 AM

Meaning CNN was pushing the story? Or setting the ball on the tee for Obama?

Thunderstorm129 on July 23, 2009 at 9:25 AM

Meaning CNN was pushing the story? Or setting the ball on the tee for Obama?

Thunderstorm129 on July 23, 2009 at 9:25 AM

nice—

ted c on July 23, 2009 at 9:26 AM

I know doctors who voted for this man, because, since he went to Harvard, he MUST be intelligent and know what he is doing.They are elitist snobs. The woman doctor called him “classy and well spoken” and trashed Sarah Palin in the next breath, saying she is ignorant and Alaskans aren’t much smarter.

The point of the presser was to allow voters, like this woman doctor (who is one of his greedy pediatricians) to go Orgasmic over how well he fills a suit and will ignore what he says. He isn’t Bush, and that’s all they care about.

Beaglemom on July 23, 2009 at 9:26 AM

The ONLY way I have found to even stomach anything the man says is to listen to Rush’s soundbites of him sped up.Honestly,they are hilarious and the banking queen,lol!,he sounds like porky pig!

ohiobabe on July 23, 2009 at 9:26 AM

I fully expect that. It’s his weapon of last resort, and once he falls to 30% in the polls (inevitable as long as unemployment keeps rising) he’s going to start sounding more and more like Rev. Wright.

wildcat84 on July 23, 2009 at 9:16 AM

That doesn’t make sense. Becoming racially divisive after polling at 30% would only drive those numbers lower. Not only would it appear like whining, there is no appitite out there for any sort of a race war. If he instigates one, he’d find himself thinking 30% was a good number.

highhopes on July 23, 2009 at 9:26 AM

I also notice that not one reporter asked Obama why he postponed issuing the budget numbers for a month in the middle of this debate, which is directly related to the health-care issue.–Ed

Excellent press point.

Obama, having called the televised conference, should have stipulated exactly how the funding will be taxed and spread the wealth of HIS health insurance policy opportunity to include all American citizens. Otherwise, we’re sick of Gumbobama TV.

maverick muse on July 23, 2009 at 9:27 AM

This is what happens when you put the water boy in charge of the football team.

NOT.READY.TO.LEAD.

SouthernGent on July 23, 2009 at 9:27 AM

Me too. And I’m dyin’ to hear what Charles Krauthammer has to say. I expect it’ll be devastating.

Waterloooooooooooooo!

petefrt on July 23, 2009 at 9:23 AM

I can’t get that ABBA song out of my head right now :)

(or the memory of how lovely those two women were in their prime).

wildcat84 on July 23, 2009 at 9:27 AM

ohiobabe on July 23, 2009 at 9:26 AM

yep

maverick muse on July 23, 2009 at 9:27 AM

The point of the presser was the last question. Do what I want you racist, white, crackers. He planted that last question to pull on white guilt,the same thing that won him the election. He is nothing but a race baiter, Jesse Jackson with a better degree.

tessa on July 23, 2009 at 9:28 AM

I think the POTUS loves to hear himself speak. Trouble is–is that rhetoric is a door that swings both ways. Either make your point, answer your question, or STFU—and Obama has proven adept at accomplishing none of those.

ted c on July 23, 2009 at 9:28 AM

Obama was undeafeated last night, he went 11-0

11 questions, no answers— a perfect record…

ted c on July 23, 2009 at 8:57 AM

That makes him bowl eligible!

Ampleforth on July 23, 2009 at 9:29 AM

It’s plain to see that what really needs to be reformed is the way our nation is governed.

scalleywag on July 23, 2009 at 9:23 AM

I’ve thought about this too. Even if we survive Obama, what’s to keep it from happening again? What’s to keep another lying statist from turning us upside down. I’m thinking the only protection we have is to take Obama down for abuse of power on Constitutional grounds.

petefrt on July 23, 2009 at 9:29 AM

“You know what? I make a lot more money if I take this kid’s tonsils out.”

Nanny state.

This statement shows two thought processes that go through the minds of dumb-asses like BO;

1) Doctor’s are just greedy bastards who took up the profession so they could be rich. Doctors are not empathetic or principled (that whole Hippocratic oath thing is just a club handshake) professionals, but money grubbing scoundrels and snake oil salesmen.

2) Americans are too stupid to realize they can say “no” to a doctor or ask for a second opinion.

I hate this guy (Barack Obama), he is a prime example of what is worst about hack politicians. I certainly wouldn’t want this guy in charge of my HOA, let alone the PotUS.

Newsflash Obambi/Pelosi/Reid: I don’t need your guidance, help or suggestions. You’re all morons (wanna compare IQs?) and your ideas suck. Get out of my way, keep the government as far away as possible from me and leave me the hell alone. I’ve been resistant to anyone telling me what to do and how to do it since I was a teenager, what makes you think I want YOU telling me now who my doctor will be and what procedures I can/can’t get done? Bugger off!

Geministorm on July 23, 2009 at 9:29 AM

That doesn’t make sense. Becoming racially divisive after polling at 30% would only drive those numbers lower. Not only would it appear like whining, there is no appitite out there for any sort of a race war. If he instigates one, he’d find himself thinking 30% was a good number.

highhopes on July 23, 2009 at 9:26 AM

Two words: street power.

Obama is fundamentally a Chicago street thug, except he uses words and politics instead of clubs.

It will just be returning to his roots.

Also, don’t forget the fact that he and his Chicago buddies love to use crises. Inciting national race riots would naturally empower Obama, because the country would demand he do something about them.

Of course, I’d disagree with that, if he does that the thing that should be “done” about it is impeach the instigator.

wildcat84 on July 23, 2009 at 9:31 AM

I think the POTUS loves to hear himself speak. Trouble is–is that rhetoric is a door that swings both ways. Either make your point, answer your question, or STFU—and Obama has proven adept at accomplishing none of those.

ted c on July 23, 2009 at 9:28 AM

I really hope to read a statement from some doctor’s consortium rebutting that stupid tonsil accusation. That would make my week.

Thunderstorm129 on July 23, 2009 at 9:31 AM

This is what happens when you put the water boy in charge of the football team.

NOT.READY.TO.LEAD.

SouthernGent on July 23, 2009 at 9:27 AM

NBC, the MSM and Minnesota voters are so entranced with SNL spoofs.

Thugobama is his own not-ready-for-prime-time-player no matter how many goons he designates as Czars.

maverick muse on July 23, 2009 at 9:31 AM

Maybe he should bring the pillars back out. That might help persuade people more.

Thunderstorm129 on July 23, 2009 at 9:23 AM

LOL. “Needs more pillars.” Some one like Rush should use that.

Marcus on July 23, 2009 at 9:32 AM

Did I hear correctly when he said…we want to stop you from paying for things that make you unhealthy?

Did he mean stopping us from smoking, drinking, eating? I was confused..

becki51758 on July 23, 2009 at 9:32 AM

Evil Dr. Katz asks:

can i haz tonsilburger?

profitsbeard on July 23, 2009 at 9:32 AM

What happened at the end? We started playing the drinking game with the “Blame Bush” and “Let me be clear” and I passed out after question #5! Did I miss anyhing?? :)

Dire Straits on July 23, 2009 at 9:33 AM

A case of tonsillitis could be allergies HMMMM….Well thanks for clearing that one up Mr. Whoopie , your the greatest!

Ray V. on July 23, 2009 at 9:33 AM

I never had my tonsils out. And I suffered greatly for it. I had chronic sore throats that lasted until my early 20s.

Blake on July 23, 2009 at 9:33 AM

I really hope to read a statement from some doctor’s consortium rebutting that stupid tonsil accusation. That would make my week.

Thunderstorm129 on July 23, 2009 at 9:31 AM

I’d really love to see a pill spoof– one bottle marked

THIS DOESN”T WORK
another marked—THIS MIGHT WORK
and another–THIS SH!T REALLY WORKS

ted c on July 23, 2009 at 9:33 AM

I’ve thought about this too. Even if we survive Obama, what’s to keep it from happening again? What’s to keep another lying statist from turning us upside down. I’m thinking the only protection we have is to take Obama down for abuse of power on Constitutional grounds.

petefrt on July 23, 2009 at 9:29 AM

The best defense against another Obama is that the people will have a living memory of the expense. That’s why it’s taken as long as it has for another true bumbling incompetent leftist to win an election, it’s been too long since the last one (Carter).

We apparently need one every 30 years or so.

wildcat84 on July 23, 2009 at 9:33 AM

I hope he fails.

BPD on July 23, 2009 at 9:33 AM

I really hope to read a statement from some doctor’s consortium rebutting that stupid tonsil accusation. That would make my week.

Thunderstorm129 on July 23, 2009 at 9:31 AM

It would make my day to see a medical profession rebuttal published throughout the MSM.

maverick muse on July 23, 2009 at 9:34 AM

Did I hear correctly when he said…we want to stop you from paying for things that make you unhealthy?

Did he mean stopping us from smoking, drinking, eating? I was confused..

becki51758 on July 23, 2009 at 9:32 AM

Yes becki, he said we should stop paying for things that don’t make us healthy.

For me, I’m going to start with my taxes.

ted c on July 23, 2009 at 9:34 AM

Are we going to get color coded pill charts now–just like the color coded threat alerts by Homeland Security…

ted c on July 23, 2009 at 9:35 AM

Obama knows EXACTLY WHAT IS IN THE BILL. It is so atrocious and unbelievably radical that he CAN’T TALK ABOU THE DETAILS. If he lets on that he knows what’s in it, people might start to understand what a WACKO he really is.

http://www.economicpolicyjournal.com/2009/07/whats-in-healthacre-bill.html

marklmail on July 23, 2009 at 9:35 AM

Wow, he was able to insult doctors and cops in one press conference. Just don’t call him an elitist.

vcferlita on July 23, 2009 at 9:36 AM

rockmom on July 23, 2009 at 9:21 AM

Sorry to hear about your dad. We had a similar situation with my dad in law.

catlady on July 23, 2009 at 9:36 AM

Yes becki, he said we should stop paying for things that don’t make us healthy.

For me, I’m going to start with my taxes.

ted c on July 23, 2009 at 9:34 AM

Which is the reason why Obama is unsustainable. Even if he confiscates ALL incomes over $50,000 he can’t pay for what is already out there, especially after this 10 trillion dollar boondoggle was in effect.

People simply won’t work as slaves to the government, which is what you are, in effect, the moment the government gets close to or especially OVER the mark where it’s getting more for your sweat than YOU get.

People will simply refuse to pay taxes or will just refuse to work at all.

This is why no socialist economy has ever escaped collapse. There is no incentive to work hard, well, or indeed, at all, when the fruit of your labor will just get confiscated.

wildcat84 on July 23, 2009 at 9:38 AM

Like Obamacare won’t have a fee schedule. What a goofball. Only someone without tonsils would have enough room in their throat to swallow that load of crap.

Kafir on July 23, 2009 at 9:40 AM

Maybe he should bring the pillars back out. That might help persuade people more.

Thunderstorm129 on July 23, 2009 at 9:23 AM

LOL. “Needs more pillars.” Some one like Rush should use that.Marcus on July 23, 2009 at 9:32 AM

ROFL! I keep seeing Ferrel…”Needs more pillars!”

Thunderstorm129 on July 23, 2009 at 9:41 AM

Like Obamacare won’t have a fee schedule. What a goofball. Only someone without tonsils would have enough room in their throat to swallow that load of crap.

Kafir on July 23, 2009 at 9:40 AM

Awesome— comedic genius hat tip to you

ted c on July 23, 2009 at 9:41 AM

We apparently need one every 30 years or so.

wildcat84 on July 23, 2009 at 9:33 AM

I suppose so. Every 30 years is tolerable, so long as we can return after another election. But the trouble is today’s left doesn’t play by the rules, wants to “re-make” America rather than protect and defend it, and wants to do it in ways that are irreversible. As you know, we’re on the edge of that cliff today. Once we go over it, it’s very unlikely we can ever go back.

petefrt on July 23, 2009 at 9:41 AM

I don’t think it’s too funny. My 89-year-old father is convalescing from a fall that broke his femur. He had state-of-the-art surgery to place a carbon-fiber rod in his leg. We had to fight Medicare to keep him in the hospital for two more days after his blood pressure crashed. Believe it or not, most hospitals will not let you pay out of your own pocket for additional days that Medicare refuses to cover. Their accounting systems are not set up for it. So if Medicare says you go home, you go home.

This is what will happen to all of us under ObamaCare. Doctors cannot order additional days in the hospital, if the government says the patient must go home. Women having C-sections and mastectomies will be sent home the next day, in excruciating pain. 89-year-olds like my Dad simply will not get surgery to fix a broken leg, they will get a cast and some painkillers and will end up invalids who will die shortly thereafter from an embolism because they can’t get up and move around.

rockmom on July 23, 2009 at 9:21 AM

Rockmom, I really did not mean it to be as funny as I meant it to be the truth. These seniors who voted for Obama have no clue as to what they have done. Thier descent into healthcare hell has begun and they will be forced to “take one for the team” so that Obama can save his Presidency. They do not or can not see past the dangling pseudo promises of free prescriptions in exchange for little or no interventions. Obama states AARP is behind him??? Why? They have nothing to gain and everything to lose. I am sorry for your Dad’s fracture, but it is good to know that under our present system he did get decent care. He actually is better off at home than in the hospital. The elderly do not or will not realize that an illegal immigrant will qualify for healthcare because they will be deninied theirs. Sick.

bloggless on July 23, 2009 at 9:42 AM

However, I also notice that not one reporter asked Obama why he postponed issuing the budget numbers for a month in the middle of this debate, which is directly related to the health-care issue. I’d call that a big-time fail for the White House press corps, which supposedly exists to ensure accountability.

________________________________
color me not surprised…they want him to succeed

cmsinaz on July 23, 2009 at 9:42 AM

You highlighted the point of the presser. Doctors remove tonsils for profit and cops are racist.
RR

ramrants on July 23, 2009 at 9:42 AM

The point of the presser was the last question. Do what I want you racist, white, crackers. He planted that last question to pull on white guilt,the same thing that won him the election. He is nothing but a race baiter, Jesse Jackson with a better degree.

tessa on July 23, 2009 at 9:28 AM

Bingo!

misslizzi on July 23, 2009 at 9:42 AM

Jake Tapper is becoming increasingly skeptical… he’s doing some objective good work there. He defanged his question slightly with deference. That’s not going to last. JT eats Gibbsy’s lunch regularly

ted c on July 23, 2009 at 9:43 AM

I’d call that a big-time fail for the White House press corps, which supposedly exists to ensure accountability.

Speaking of health care – laughter is healthy, you know? So thanks for helping me start my day with a huge belly-laugh!

But why don’t I feel better?

drunyan8315 on July 23, 2009 at 9:44 AM

Laughter is the best medicine. Particularly, gallows humor.

ted c on July 23, 2009 at 9:45 AM

I find it interesting that Palin was one of the first to smack Obama about his out down of doctors.:

Obama on health care today:did he suggest docs take action out of financial self interest vs upholding Hippocratic oath?This causes pause in AK w/Feds proposed takeover of healthcare;let Americans work w/the docs of our choice vs govt deciding things like our kids tonsillectomy
about 9 hours ago from TwitterBerry

Not bad for a stupid person. Seems she nailed it again.

unseen on July 23, 2009 at 9:46 AM

out=put

unseen on July 23, 2009 at 9:46 AM

Sarah’s firing the long range artillery—bringing the rain of pain on barry’s train… booya

ted c on July 23, 2009 at 9:47 AM

B. O.Right now, doctors a lot of times are forced to make decisions based on the fee payment schedule that’s out there. So if they’re looking and you come in and you’ve got a bad sore throat or your child has a bad sore throat or has repeated sore throats, the doctor may look at the reimbursement system and say to himself, “You know what? I make a lot more money if I take this kid’s tonsils out.”

And you may find yourself living in a shotgun shack
And you may find yourself in another part of the world
And you may find yourself behind the wheel of a large automobile
And you may find yourself in a beautiful house, with a beautiful
Wife
And you may ask yourself-well…how did I get here?
D. B.

And, as a bonus, after Nov 2010:

Letting the days go by/let the water hold me down
Letting the days go by/water flowing underground
Into the blue again/after the moneys gone
Once in a lifetime/water flowing underground.

Same as it ever was…same as it ever was…same as it ever was…
Same as it ever was…same as it ever was…same as it ever was…
Same as it ever was…same as it ever was…

Shivas Irons on July 23, 2009 at 9:47 AM

ted c on July 23, 2009 at 9:43 AM

you think he will follow in major’s footsteps and get dissed during the next one of these?

cmsinaz on July 23, 2009 at 9:48 AM

Sarah’s firing the long range artillery—bringing the rain of pain on barry’s train… booya

ted c on July 23, 2009 at 9:47 AM

Yes seems to have hit on the right note doesn’t she? Telling America that the gov wants to control their childrens healthcare. a little bit of fear a little bit of common sense there

unseen on July 23, 2009 at 9:50 AM

Obama rose to where he is by the power of smoke, mirrors, teleprompter, and his cult of personality.

The Obamadroids MUST hear from their Dear Leader often or the Kool-Aid might wear off.

The delusion is that they think this applies to everyone else as well. Fact of the matter is that 51% of the electorate fell for the slick packaging and the “coolness” of the moment of electing a black President, enough to ignore his complete lack of substance.

They are having buyer’s remorse now.

As I said to someone at work today, I think that EVERY generation needs to experience a “Jimmy Carter” so they have a LIVING memory of how bad things can be, so they don’t make that mistake again.

wildcat84 on July 23, 2009 at 9:20 AM

I’ve been saying since last year if you want to know how Barack Obama is going to do, go back and look at how David Dinkins did as the first African-American mayor of New York City. He was elected thanks to the same sort of white liberal guilt that elected Obama last year, and had the same non-threatening personality that allowed those same guilty white liberals not to be afraid of him, but at the same time made him unwilling and/or unable to challenge the special interest groups in his own party.

All that came after was enough to get Rudy Giuliani elected mayor in their 1993 rematch, but there were still a lot of die-hards who rationalized there was little or nothing you could do to solve the city’s problems, and to this day still think the city under Rudy was turned into some fascist dictatorship. My guess is come three years from now, that’s going to be the Obama die-hards’ message as well — “Re-elect Barack, because no one can solve America’s problems and (name your Republican here) is a fascist”. It’s also not much different from the 1980 Carter/big media campaign against Reagan, and hopefully it will produce the same results.

jon1979 on July 23, 2009 at 9:50 AM

We been dancin’ with Mr. Brownstone
He’s been knockin’
He won’t leave me alone
No, no ,no, he won’t leave me alone
I used ta do a little but a little wouldn’t do
So the little got more and more
I just keep tryin’ ta get a little better
Said the little better than before
I used ta do a little but a little wouldn’t do
So the little got more and more
I just keep tryin’ ta get a little better
Said the little better than before

ted c on July 23, 2009 at 9:50 AM

I have a sore throat from yelling at the TV.

becki51758 on July 23, 2009 at 9:51 AM

I forced myself to watch a repeat of the conference a couple hours later. A lot of politicians have the ability to talk endlessly and say nothing. The really good ones, like Bill Clinton, Orin Hatch, and Robert Byrd, can do it effectively and persuade people into their position even when the bulk of their message is nonsense. Obama can do it somewhat, but only with a pre-packaged message, teleprompters, and in front of an already sympathetic audience. Without those conditions, he falls flat on his face.

This was the his most rambling, incoherent and silly press conference yet. As a sales pitch, it failed miserably. But I don’t think his inability to answer seemingly simple questions about his own position was because he was deliberatly trying to stall. I think it’s because he honestly doesn’t have freakin clue what he’s talking about. He’s in way over his head and it shows. This is what happens when you elect a prom king.

RobertE on July 23, 2009 at 9:51 AM

wildcat84 on July 23, 2009 at 9:20 AM

No Obama got elected because he had no ties to bush and/or Clinton. He was fresh, new etc.

the dems wanted to use that to try to ram down his liberal polices. America voted for change FROM BUSH not change from CAPITALISM

unseen on July 23, 2009 at 9:52 AM

no jake’s good, he’s on ABC–they straight

ted c on July 23, 2009 at 9:52 AM

Before I tuned out from the seemingly-endless blather, I heard Mr. Obama claim twice that he had “inherited a 1.4 trillion-dollar deficit.” “Inherited,” mind you—nothing to do with the Porkulus Bill, nor the enormous Budget his administration has rammed through the compliant Congress.

Is this not an out-and-out lie?

This past weekend we watched the film version of Agatha Christie’s “Witness for the Prosecution.” During the trial, the delightfully cantankerous Charles Laughton cross-examines the defendant’s wife, chronicling one lie after another, finally asking the inevitable question: How can you believe her now?

Was anything this slick-talking President said true? It all had a superficial plausibility. It all sounded reasonable. But scratch beneath the surface a little, and you’ll find that this man may even exceed our ol’ buddy Slick Willie at bald-faced prevarication.

MrLynn on July 23, 2009 at 9:54 AM

America voted for change FROM BUSH not change from CAPITALISM

unseen on July 23, 2009 at 9:52 AM

Too Bad America!

BOHICA!!!!!!

BPD on July 23, 2009 at 9:59 AM

petefrt on July 23, 2009 at 9:29 AM

I was thinking about this very thing this morning before getting out of bed. It’s time to start talking “impeachment”.
I couldn’t watch his presser last night either. Finally went downstairs and asked my husband if is was as bad as everyone said. He didn’t know because he fell asleep.
Came back up to the computer and read about it here at HA. By the time I got to bed it was re-running on TV. Again, my husband had gone to sleep. I started watching because it was like watching an accident. You just can’t look away. His face was vacant. His make-up was too thick. He did look like a zombie. Then he started lying. The vacuous questions and non-answers were terrible. Obama usually makes my blood pressure skyrocket, but last night I did fall asleep before it was over.
No normal, capitalist, freedom loving human being would ever think to write such unbelievable drivel in a health care bill. They seem to be the party that promotes the culture of death. It looks to me that their only course of action is to destroy all the papers and computer hard drives and pretend this never happened. If it doesn’t pass there will be hell to pay. If it does pass, there will be hell to pay. The Dems are in a really tough spot. Everything they do is wrong.

BetseyRoss on July 23, 2009 at 10:00 AM

I’ve thought about this too. Even if we survive Obama, what’s to keep it from happening again? What’s to keep another lying statist from turning us upside down. I’m thinking the only protection we have is to take Obama down for abuse of power on Constitutional grounds.

petefrt on July 23, 2009 at 9:29 AM

The best defense against another Obama is that the people will have a living memory of the expense. That’s why it’s taken as long as it has for another true bumbling incompetent leftist to win an election, it’s been too long since the last one (Carter).

We apparently need one every 30 years or so.

wildcat84 on July 23, 2009 at 9:33 AM

Exactly right. Liberal ideas are so persuasive that each generation will inevitably fall for them at some point. But just as inevitably those ideas will fail, so there’s a built-in self-correction mechanism.

Look on the bright side: when Obama goes down he takes the MSM and the whole notion of statism with him, at least for another generation (and they’ll be no such thing as the MSM in another 30 or so years).

He may even manage to discredit leftism/liberalism/progessivism so badly that those ideas disappear completely outside of academia, and the broader public never falls for them again.

If so three more years of Obama is a small price to pay.

EnglishMike on July 23, 2009 at 10:01 AM

Obama states AARP is behind him??? Why? They have nothing to gain and everything to lose.

bloggless on July 23, 2009 at 9:42 AM

Just like the unions, AARP are donk pacs. They are in it for the power to support lefty policies – the welfare of their member is secondary.

Blake on July 23, 2009 at 10:03 AM

The libs are really hurting. They see that this radical freak is DEEPLY flawed and profoundly dishonest. It’s gonna be a lonnnngg 3+ years.

marklmail on July 23, 2009 at 10:04 AM

Waterloo! America=1 v Obama=0

julian on July 23, 2009 at 10:04 AM

He may even manage to discredit leftism/liberalism/progessivism so badly that those ideas disappear completely outside of academia, and the broader public never falls for them again.

If so three more years of Obama is a small price to pay.

EnglishMike on July 23, 2009 at 10:01 AM

Mike: he won’t manage to discredit it. We have to expose the issue and the fallacy that is rampant in adademia. The proportion of statist liberal/left leaning professors is staggering and it needs greater exposure. I think that linking him to that, and the professorial support that these guys gave him, ought to be a millstone around both of their necks.

ted c on July 23, 2009 at 10:05 AM

I’ve thought about this too. Even if we survive Obama, what’s to keep it from happening again? What’s to keep another lying statist from turning us upside down. I’m thinking the only protection we have is to take Obama down for abuse of power on Constitutional grounds.

petefrt on July 23, 2009 at 9:29 AM

Well IMHO, it’s not just the feckless rump president that authors this crap, it’s the speaker of the house and all her minions as well. I don’t know how you’d go about overhauling the whole system but there has to be an end to this. We aren’t being governed, we’re being ruled and run over.

scalleywag on July 23, 2009 at 10:05 AM

Obama states AARP is behind him

The AARP simply doesn’t understand that when Obama said, “shovel-ready projects” that he was referring to them…..

ted c on July 23, 2009 at 10:06 AM

The AARP simply doesn’t understand that when Obama said, “shovel-ready projects” that he was referring to them…..

ted c on July 23, 2009 at 10:06 AM

ZING!

+1

BPD on July 23, 2009 at 10:07 AM

He may even manage to discredit leftism/liberalism/progessivism so badly that those ideas disappear completely outside of academia, and the broader public never falls for them again.

If so three more years of Obama is a small price to pay.

EnglishMike on July 23, 2009 at 10:01 AM

Thanks for adding a glimmer of hope. That would be awesomely awesome!

scalleywag on July 23, 2009 at 10:08 AM

gridlock2 on July 23, 2009 at 9:21 AM

My son was having repeated seizures from constant ear and throat infections before he had his tonsills removed. He has only had two seizures in the three years since. Obama needs to go to med school before he starts controlling my family’s health care options. People we have to stop this egomaniacal idiot. I am truly scared for my family and country.

TXMomof3 on July 23, 2009 at 10:08 AM

The AARP simply doesn’t understand that when Obama said, “shovel-ready projects” that he was referring to them…..

ted c on July 23, 2009 at 10:06 AM

Exactly. The only cost cutting in Obamacare is “you’re old, your job is to die”. Which is a complete betrayal of the AARP’s supposed constituency if that organization actually stood for them.

However, now that the dirty secret is out, the AARP is going to be forced to oppose it (or become irrelevant) much as the unions even had to ultimately object to cap and tax.

wildcat84 on July 23, 2009 at 10:10 AM

EnglishMike on July 23, 2009 at 10:01 AM

Mike if bush couldn’t kill conservatism I doubt Obama will kill socialism. the only difference is Obama is trying to pretend to be a moderate thus he may hurt moderation more than socialism in the short term which would be good for conservatives as we may be allowed to swing the country to the right again after 30 years of Bush/clinton swinging it to the left. Just like it took a pretend conservative like bush to tarnish the name a pretend moderate like obama may be the answer to our prayers

Now if only the GOp would embrace the idea of freedom from washington in both taxes and religion then we might get somewhere as a country again.

unseen on July 23, 2009 at 10:10 AM

We apparently need one every 30 years or so.

wildcat84 on July 23, 2009 at 9:33 AM

SPEAK FOR YOURSELF!
Don’t abuse the “we” like a progressive.
Damned progressives gifted us with doom in ’08.

Conservatives warned America, and worked hard to stop progressives. Those of us who had to scrape through starting life as young professionals under Carter have made clear the hardships of life not only under Carter, trying to qualify for a home given the massive inflation and SEVERE RECESSION and high unemployment in manufacturing, but also under Bill Clinton when again the taxation went through the roof as a Family of Four income $24K/yr. was challenged to pay $8K in federal taxes. America never NEEDS that “good for Socialism” hardship. It takes an idiotic LIAR to claim that “spreading the wealth” only raises rich peoples’ taxes.

Furthermore, those progressives cut our national defense that has yet to recuperate, constantly shifting limited funds from one Congressional tax funded unfinished project to another, post haste, without testing now, F-35 thrust into production, without funded means to refuel them.

Any nation hampered by unscientific green legislation will not permit its inhabitants to use the oil already pumped, globally transported and waiting outside harbors in tankers backed up for miles.

Now progressives want to dictate who gets what sort of medical treatment. Given the opportunity, they will enforce the worst imaginable scenario, even with our nation’s water and food supply, always “for our own good” with “the best intentions” that hurt the population and pad the politician’s (and more lawyers than not) pockets.

Stop.

maverick muse on July 23, 2009 at 10:12 AM

The AARP simply doesn’t understand that when Obama said, “shovel-ready projects” that he was referring to them…..

ted c on July 23, 2009 at 10:06 AM

Exactly. The only cost cutting in Obamacare is “you’re old, your job is to die”. Which is a complete betrayal of the AARP’s supposed constituency if that organization actually stood for them.

However, now that the dirty secret is out, the AARP is going to be forced to oppose it (or become irrelevant) much as the unions even had to ultimately object to cap and tax.

wildcat84 on July 23, 2009 at 10:10 AM

Agreed.

maverick muse on July 23, 2009 at 10:15 AM

ted c on July 23, 2009 at 10:05 AM

I take your point, but what I’m saying is that if Obama fails as utterly and quickly as it seems he might, even those liberal professors are just going to get laughed at by 18-year-olds. And even if academia is unreformed, without a mass media to spread their ideas to the masses they’ll be relatively powerless – and I can’t see anything like the current MSM existing in ten years’ time, let alone 30. But absolutely we have to change the culture, including education, and an Obama meltdown may make the easier.

Of course it’s too early to know how this all plays out, but let’s dare to dream: statism may turn out to have been just a tragi-comic blip in human history.

EnglishMike on July 23, 2009 at 10:16 AM

…and an Obama meltdown may make THAT easier.

damn my liberal British education…

EnglishMike on July 23, 2009 at 10:18 AM

I take your point, but what I’m saying is that if Obama fails as utterly and quickly as it seems he might, even those liberal professors are just going to get laughed at by 18-year-olds. And even if academia is unreformed, without a mass media to spread their ideas to the masses they’ll be relatively powerless – and I can’t see anything like the current MSM existing in ten years’ time, let alone 30. But absolutely we have to change the culture, including education, and an Obama meltdown may make the easier.

Of course it’s too early to know how this all plays out, but let’s dare to dream: statism may turn out to have been just a tragi-comic blip in human history.

EnglishMike on July 23, 2009 at 10:16 AM

dude–i’m at a liberal arts university. Never underestimate the mushiness and control these fools have over the young minds of our youth. We need to have adults telling these kids the truth. On every issue, conservatism, money, climate, economics, politics, freedom and all else.

ted c on July 23, 2009 at 10:19 AM

Obama needs to go to med school before he starts controlling my family’s health care options. People we have to stop this egomaniacal idiot. I am truly scared for my family and country.

TXMomof3 on July 23, 2009 at 10:08 AM

Obama as a lawyer has unceasingly worked to siphon tax funds away from accomplishing designated tasks and perpetuating frustration of the masses. As your doctor, he would take your money and also remove whatever organs he could sell for profit on his newly legalized black market. There are always more ways to be had though some be redux.

maverick muse on July 23, 2009 at 10:20 AM

Obama states AARP is behind him

AARP is in on the scam.

maverick muse on July 23, 2009 at 10:22 AM

I heard Mr. Obama claim twice that he had “inherited a 1.4 trillion-dollar deficit.” “Inherited,” mind you

MrLynn on July 23, 2009 at 9:54 AM

This is the coming (continuing) mantra from the left. We are officially operating on Bush’s last budget for another couple months which explains why Obama and his tribe of spenders gladly voted for Porkulus so they pack future spending into an ‘emergency’ bill all the while blaming bush for the spending.

If the Republicans had a brain, they would get out ahead of this, because Obama will repeat this claim when he releases his monstrous budget this fall.

cntrlfrk on July 23, 2009 at 10:22 AM

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