Video: Chris Matthews can’t get enough of the sweet, sweet birth certificate Trutherism
posted at 8:06 pm on July 22, 2009 by Allahpundit
A “Hardball” reprise of yesterday’s topic du jour. Per Blankley’s comments, I’m wondering: Who was the last president whom both sides agreed was completely legitimate? You have to go back to Bush 41, no? Clinton never won a majority of the vote; Bush 43 lost the popular vote in 2000 and then, according to nutroots lore, won in 2004 because Diebold rigged the vote in Ohio or whatever. And now we’ve got The One, whose sinister plot to falsely establish citizenship evidently extends to planting fake birth announcements in Hawaiian newspapers in 1961. If Palin wins in 2012, it’ll be fun to see what conspiratorial delegitimizing detail the left comes up with. No doubt Andrew Sullivan is already on the case.
The fact that Matthews has run with this two nights in a row means, I guess, that MSNBC has finally replaced “Rush Limbaugh is the head of the GOP” as its chief line of attack against Republicans.
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This is a better video anyway, about a minute and a half. Check it out:
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deedtrader on July 22, 2009 at 8:10 PM
Matthews must be tingly all over…
JetBoy on July 22, 2009 at 8:15 PM
Obama is a citizen of the world. The USA is part of the world. Seems logical.
Sugar Land on July 22, 2009 at 8:16 PM
Or it means that so damned many people are asking to see his birth certificate, (you know, like oh the State of California’s Supreme court, the Head of the US Joint Chief of Staff), that MSNBC no longer feels they can completely ignore the question.
doriangrey on July 22, 2009 at 8:17 PM
Hey Allah….
Can you tell me please when and where Barack Obama was born and how you know that?
NeoKong on July 22, 2009 at 8:18 PM
Two Minutes’ Hate.
commenter on July 22, 2009 at 8:19 PM
Its like this AP, you came in second place to win several million dollars…you just found out that the winner may have pulled a fast one but no one really cares and if proven, you are the actual winner of several million dollars….do you pursue it or do you just shrug it off because you fear being labled a sore loser if you end up being wrong? Phuck no! You are going to fight tooth and nail to make sure you did everything you could to get your hands on that cold hard cash!
Now imagine this scenario but for larger stakes? What about this seems so crazy to people?
javamartini on July 22, 2009 at 8:20 PM
Oh Come on! There didn’t have to be a sinister plot to cause the announcement to be false. Growing up, I saw a birth announcement for the child of the “good” Catholic girl who lived next door. Utter fiction.
highhopes on July 22, 2009 at 8:21 PM
This issue has a racial component to it. The woman who was screaming at the townhall said “I want my country back”.
Looks to me she is pissed because a black man is elected president. Bigots will still not let go.
equality on July 22, 2009 at 8:22 PM
Oh hush up you damned ignorant unwashed nirther, Obama himself showed Allapundit his birth certificate and swore on a Oxford Dictionary that it was genuine and really issued by the doctor who delivered Obama.
doriangrey on July 22, 2009 at 8:22 PM
Chris Matthews is nothing more than a lowbrow political hack. He only does this crap to gin up the democrat base of hardcore lefties. Their attention gives him a leg tingle something akin to what he gets what Obama steps up to the teleprompter. The legislation in Congress has nothing to do with Barack Obama or his birth certificate or the 2008 elections and Matthews knows it. He’s just trying to get people stirred up so that he can break back into the ratings game. I know, it’s a pipe dream for him but still….
t.ferg on July 22, 2009 at 8:23 PM
It’s entirely a different scenario here.
SouthernGent on July 22, 2009 at 8:23 PM
More than where he was born, I’d like to know where are all the people he used to smoke dope and snort coke with?
We heard references to GWB being a coke head for 8 years. You know if there’s been one person that could be bought off to verify it, he’d have his own TV show right now.
TugboatPhil on July 22, 2009 at 8:24 PM
Ah, a new troll is afoot.
I didn’t hear her say anything regarding a black man. You must be a mind reader.
fossten on July 22, 2009 at 8:26 PM
This is not the hill you want to die on.
Asher on July 22, 2009 at 8:26 PM
Here’s something to make Mr. Tingle happy!
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=076_1248168842
stacy on July 22, 2009 at 8:26 PM
i’m no birther but i think all of obamas records are relevant.
weewilly on July 22, 2009 at 8:26 PM
Not gonna say any thing. Nope, not gonna do it. Just going to keep my mouth shut and listen to what others have to say this time. Lips zipped, locked, throw away the key.
MMMnhphmm–POof–Just show the darn thing, Dipstick!
davidk on July 22, 2009 at 8:27 PM
Or she listens to radio talk show host Rick Roberts who has been screaming “I want my country back” for the last 3 and a half years or more.
doriangrey on July 22, 2009 at 8:27 PM
There are many people who like to ridicule birthers but NOT ONE SINGLE ONE OF THEM can precisely tell you where and when Barack Obama was born.
They can tell you what Obama’s campaign told them and that’s all.
I want to see the birth certificate.
NeoKong on July 22, 2009 at 8:28 PM
Fake birth announcements never appear in newspapers, and if you think that they do, then you are just like the 9/11 truthers
Mr. ThrillGoingUpMyLeg is on his own on this one. Last thing obama and his acolytes want is more people hearing about and discussing obama’s certificate of live birth
runner on July 22, 2009 at 8:28 PM
at least that is how you think
runner on July 22, 2009 at 8:29 PM
Matthew is trying to keep it alive to make the GOP look like idiots, that’s usually his motive. Even if the guy doesn’t have a legitimate birth certificate it makes the party look bad. It’s a no win situation. It’s just like the people (my boss being one of them) who say to this day that it sure is fishy that a governor named Bush was in charge of the Florida votes and voila, his brother gets re-elected.
scalleywag on July 22, 2009 at 8:30 PM
The more they label those asking for documentation as “crazy”, the more I tend to believe there is something to cover up. The birth announcement in the newspaper does NOT say Obama was born in Hawaii. It says that he was born to parents who lived in Hawaii (and incorrectly says he was born to Mr. and Mrs. Barack H. Obama, and Obama admits that his parents were not then married). It is not uncommon for relatives to place a birth announcment in the local newspaper where a parent lives, even if the baby was born elsewhere. The newspaper announcements (at least those I have seen) just don’t prove that he was born in Hawaii.
LASue on July 22, 2009 at 8:30 PM
if you think that all of obama’s records are relevant, you are just like the 9/11 truther
runner on July 22, 2009 at 8:31 PM
equality on July 22, 2009 at 8:22 PM
LOL- the stupidity of you trolls is comical.
Keep pulling that race card, its all you have left.
bazil9 on July 22, 2009 at 8:34 PM
OT but I vote for getting rid of the “I Fixed my Yellow Teeth” banner ad on the left there. It’s pretty gross.
scalleywag on July 22, 2009 at 8:34 PM
The lady is a local loon here in lower slower Delaware. Her name is Eileen and is a frequent caller on WGMD the local talk radio station.
But that does not negate her question. And she has never come across as a racist.
davidk on July 22, 2009 at 8:35 PM
Maybe Barack is really… an alien?
My God, I think I’ve stumbled onto something. All this time, the birthers were RIGHT! Just off the mark a little. He is really an alien from outer space!
The greatest trick our alien overlords ever pulled was making the American public think Obama was human.
You think that sounds crazy birthers? Well, that’s how you sound to me.
DanStark on July 22, 2009 at 8:37 PM
Ha ha ha, you’re accepting the inevitable, I see.
promachus on July 22, 2009 at 8:37 PM
What the hell does the newspaper announcement have to do with anything? Obama could have been born on Mars and they would have printed the exact same thing.
Riposte on July 22, 2009 at 8:40 PM
And unlike the 9/11 truthers not one single creditable organization ie Popular Mechanics magazine or American Society of Civil Engineers has come forward to support the evidence of Obama’s actual place of birth.
doriangrey on July 22, 2009 at 8:41 PM
Dude.
I think that was Jim Treacher.
crr6 on July 22, 2009 at 8:43 PM
I am unable to form an opinion or ask a question without the approbation of Chris Matthews.
Jim Treacher on July 22, 2009 at 8:43 PM
how does it feel to be known as a HotAir troll ?
runner on July 22, 2009 at 8:44 PM
One day your broken heart will mend.
Jim Treacher on July 22, 2009 at 8:45 PM
The operative phrase there is… a frequent caller on WGMD the local talk radio station, Rick Roberts=talk radio host, her=talk radio active participant. Connect the dots….
doriangrey on July 22, 2009 at 8:45 PM
re Bush 41… what about Lee Atwater and Willie Horton?
ninjapirate on July 22, 2009 at 8:46 PM
Because the Hawaiian state government, which states that Obama is citizen born in the United States, isn’t credible.
It’s a cover-up I tell you!
I’m still sticking with my outer space alien theory. I think it will go places.
DanStark on July 22, 2009 at 8:46 PM
Matthews is such a good little doggy. You almost wish Obama would pat him on the head or something.
Grayson on July 22, 2009 at 8:46 PM
Yeah, right…to which I respond go eff yourself and your Al Sharpton blow-up doll.
RepubChica on July 22, 2009 at 8:47 PM
I signed in just because of this comment, it made me laugh:
My mom knows this Eileen – we were talking about her this weekend (my mom listens to that station on occasion, but knows the woman through family). Of course, my mom knows or is related to most of LSD, so that’s that.
I’ll admit I’m one of those that thinks something shady about Obama’s past, something that disqualifies him for the presidency. Can’t put my finger on it, though.
Anna on July 22, 2009 at 8:48 PM
The suppressors sure are getting snotty these days.
Buddahpundit on July 22, 2009 at 8:49 PM
Allahpundit, please ban the birthers… What would WFB do?
ninjapirate on July 22, 2009 at 8:49 PM
Despite the rock-solid Constitutionally sound evidence offered by a Hawai’ian happy ad, I think the fact that his grandmother claims he was born in Kenya deserves a little investigation, and the more Obama resists, the more I’m interested. You want to compare that to 9/11 Trutherism, stick it in your ass.
Ronnie on July 22, 2009 at 8:49 PM
I’ve read smart people assert “God is dead.”
Proof he was once alive? In Germany?
Stephen M on July 22, 2009 at 8:50 PM
We get it dear. Relax.
crr6 on July 22, 2009 at 8:52 PM
“President Joe Biden” = “cold hard cash”?
malclave on July 22, 2009 at 8:52 PM
http://opengov.ideascale.com/akira/dtd/5961-4049
I’d add:
List of drug dealers Obama bought from
List of drug users Obama sold to
All this from the “most transparent” president ever? Fact is we hardly know anything about Obama’s past, which cannot be by accident. This is not conspiracy theory, this is scary stuff.
Rebar on July 22, 2009 at 8:53 PM
That would include MSNBC,CNN,ABC,NBC,CBS the NYT’S, the L.A. Times and every other media outlet.
When they wanted to they could find a ten year old video of Hillary in Tuusula or find a thirty year old DUI for G.W. Bush.
They never seemed to want to see Kerry’d medical records but DEMANDED Bush’s NG documents.
Joe the plumber’s private records seemed easy enough to find and they can look through trash cans in Wasilla Alaska to find dirt on Palin.
All that investigative talent and no one seems to be able to find out where Obama was born.
NeoKong on July 22, 2009 at 8:54 PM
Parroting your betters is no way to go through life, but it’s certainly amusing. Please continue.
Jim Treacher on July 22, 2009 at 8:56 PM
I’ve only lived in LSD for a year and a half, but my wife has lived here (Millsboro) all her life. Our backyard butts up against my mother-in-law’s yard. What my MiL doesn’t know about Sussex county ain’t worth knowing.
I’m the garden guy at Hocker’s. Stop in and see me.
davidk on July 22, 2009 at 8:57 PM
Would someone please escort this hysterical woman out of the room? The congressman is trying to answer her question.
Thanks.
crr6 on July 22, 2009 at 8:58 PM
The problem with your incredible ignorant assertion here is… Second hand testimony is not accepted in a court of law as verification of the veracity of a document. The document itself has to be produced. Hawaii’s governor said she saw the document and that it was genuine, she also refused to produce the document invalidating her own testimony. She further muddled the issue by sealing the document so that it could not be examined to verify that the information on it unequivocally verified that Obama was born at a specific hospital in Hawaii and delivered by a specific doctor and not simply registered as a live birth to a minor whose parents were residents of Hawaii who had very recently returned to Hawaii from Kenya Africa.
doriangrey on July 22, 2009 at 8:59 PM
He has already released documents on his birth.
You state that these are forged, that IS A CONSPIRACY. Simple as that.
The rest of the stuff seems irrelevant (or made up). As someone who believes in privacy, Obama should have the right. Some may disagree, but really, “OMG he is hiding his grades! He flunked LAW SCHOOL! Ramble ramble ramble!” Unless you believe something sinister, then I can’t help you.
I again bring up the outer space alien theory, which is WAY more appealing.
DanStark on July 22, 2009 at 8:59 PM
Captivating. What happened then?
Jim Treacher on July 22, 2009 at 9:00 PM
I guess I’m a birther. I’ve tried not to be.
I do not question whether or not Barack Obama was born in Hawaii. I believe that he was. I do question why he won’t just release his birth certificate and end this foolishness. Is it a Saul Alinsky tactic? Or, is he who he says he is?
Wouldn’t it be something if we found out that he’s another man’s son? That would mean that he has an entirely different last name. It would be a hoot if the first black president of the U.S. shared last names with the first (and only) president of the Confederacy?
I question his status in Indonesia more than his birth certificate. How did he get a visa to go to Pakistan in 1981?
The media can deride “birthers” all they want, but it’s because of they’re horrible lack of reporting that these questions exist. They’ve never delved into his years in Indonesia or the relationship he had with his mother’s husband at that time. No one has looked into his relationship with Frank Marshall Davis or into Davis’ background.
President Obama has a duty to produce his real birth certificate because if we had a true national crisis, his legitimacy could be called into question.
Don’t blame the birthers. Blame the media for leaving so many holes in our current president’s story.
The announcement in the paper? I’m sure there’s never been a case in which a woman has lied to her husband about the father of a newborn.
Ampleforth on July 22, 2009 at 9:02 PM
Prove it….
doriangrey on July 22, 2009 at 9:05 PM
Obama is never dishonest and never disengenuous and never would lie, cheat or steal to gain political office.
fourdeucer on July 22, 2009 at 9:06 PM
Same old question, what’s on the BC that makes it unviewable for the American public?
Matthews is showing a document that was released via DKos, a bastion of truth and integrity if there ever was one….
Just show it, if it say’s he was born in a hospital in Hawaii, that ends it and I’ll call anyone who doesn’t believe it nuts as well.
Hog Wild on July 22, 2009 at 9:10 PM
http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthcertificate.asp
If you believe all of this is a forgery, then you sir are in fact a conspiracy theorist.
Hell, take pride in it, the JFK theorists didn’t stop after documents were released in the early 90′s.
DanStark on July 22, 2009 at 9:10 PM
Wait til one of these MSM creatures 15 min are waning and in a desparate attempt to regain a foothold they try to write Obama’s autobiography and their part in his story and they get denied all the information that “truthers” have been trying to get released.
That is going to be a “landed on the moon” moment. Too bad our country will hit rock bottom before then.
journeyintothewhirlwind on July 22, 2009 at 9:10 PM
Has anyone on this board ever lived in Hawaii or been there in the late 50s, early 60s. I have and except for Honolulu, it was a pretty back water place. If your child wasn’t born in a hospital, you were required to present proof, evidence or just persuade an official that your child was born in the Islands. Along with this requirement was to publish a notice in the paper so all good citizens might have the opportunity to step forward with any objections. This leaves a lot of loopholes.
Obama might also have had dual citizenship, perhaps a disqualifying status. And that might be evident on his school records.
In any case, the dude is certainly not the ONE™ as he has had many names through his life: Barry Soetoro, Barry Dunham, and Barack Hussein Obama. Should be known as MUCH™…or something.
Of what I have read of Obama’s flakey non parents, they seem like system gamers and wouldn’t think twice about a little, paper scam.
We want to see the freakin’ long form.
PC14 on July 22, 2009 at 9:11 PM
Why does Obama, the “most transparent” president evah!, have more privacy than say, George Bush? The left demanded, and got, every piece of documentation from him, down to and including the macaroni art he made in kindergarten. Even then they had to make some up. Why does the left get everything they want, but somehow their guys get to play by different rules, Kerry doesn’t have to show his full military records, Obama doesn’t have to show anything? Bull.
And that “certification of live birth” on the web has been shown to be a forgery. Add that Obama has spent big money on the unprecedented sealing of his original birth certificate, the question becomes very legitimate indeed.
Rebar on July 22, 2009 at 9:11 PM
sorry- biography
journeyintothewhirlwind on July 22, 2009 at 9:11 PM
Letter from John Jay to George Washington, July 25, 1787:
Permit me to hint, whether it would not be wise & seasonable to provide a strong check to the admission of Foreigners into the administration of our national Government; and to declare expresly that the Command in chief of the american army shall not be given to, nor devolve on, any but a natural born Citizen.
In this, Jay is speaking about someone who is an American from birth and never anything but American.
Suck on that, allah. The Precedent is ineligible.
progressoverpeace on July 22, 2009 at 9:13 PM
My mom lives right up the street from Hocker’s, and my grandfather lives in Roxana. I only visit nowadays (I left DE for military life 9 years ago), but next time we’re in town, I’ll stop in. Heck, I was in Hocker’s on Saturday. Small world.
I promise to stop hijacking the thread now.
Anna on July 22, 2009 at 9:17 PM
Jesus! And I say that with all the Christian love in my cold, black heart. I wish the conspiracy minded would just be quiet….I’d use another term but then AP or Ed may ban me….can’t let that happen to a Canuck conservative.
Seriously….who…gives….a….fornication??????
Although, being a Canuck I’m a little….loose on the application of natural-born citizen-ship requirements to anyone who desires to lead your fine country to the folks for whom my country is a hat…heh. Love that. Criminey. I’m not sure that makes any sense at all.
*signed* A Canuck who misses W. except for his big guv conservative policies… (and has been drinking heavily…not good, I know)
MT
Mistahtibbs on July 22, 2009 at 9:17 PM
I find is fascinating that a man from Kenya and a girl from Kansas met in a Russian language class in Hawaii
runner on July 22, 2009 at 9:17 PM
*I find it*
runner on July 22, 2009 at 9:17 PM
For something so simple to provide to not be shown, sure as hell makes you wonder. Seriously, how much is really known about this guy? I trust my gut, and it seems that there’s some shady sh*t going on.
Sam_I_Am on July 22, 2009 at 9:18 PM
Hawaiian law provides for foreign born children to be able to obtain a Hawaiian BC.
Are you implying that none of the people who have utilized this legal provision are in fact foreign born?
Itchee Dryback on July 22, 2009 at 9:18 PM
Has been shown to be a forgery BY WHO? What “truth-giver” has provided you with this information?
READ.
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthcertificate.asp
DanStark on July 22, 2009 at 9:19 PM
The hospital that he says he was born in, in Hawaii…(one of the two he has said) should have some records of his mother being there giving birth. Records besides the short form bc that he gave to a blogger.
WHY would he fight to keep any of these records sealed?
I’ll be a birther until someone can answer me that.
bridgetown on July 22, 2009 at 9:19 PM
The JFK theorists still haven’t stopped. Nor have the moon landing people. (JFKers? Mooners? It’s too bad they don’t have catchy names.)
I don’t think Republicans need a new Reagan. Republicans need a new William F. Buckley, someone to draw a line between the heart and soul of the party and the fringe rubbish. Let the Birthers go the way of the Birchers. Because right now, we’re at a point where respected right-wing blogs can theorize that Obama his hiding his birth certificate because Malcolm X is his real father, and it’d be funny if it wasn’t so horribly depressing.
Siobhan on July 22, 2009 at 9:19 PM
DanStark on July 22, 2009 at 9:19 PM
Snopes isn’t the final end of any ‘truths’. You can do better than that, I’m sure.
bridgetown on July 22, 2009 at 9:20 PM
There are just too many questions about Obama’s past. I’m just as concerned about his college years as about where he was born. How did this “poor kid” get into the colleges he did? He didn’t appear to be a genius and his self-avowed drug use would prove it. So how did he get in if not as a foreign student or affirmative action placement? Why would a stranger want to send him to Harvard?
texabama on July 22, 2009 at 9:21 PM
About what?
The Constitution and the legal requirements for being President of the US?
You’re not one of these “Duuuude…whateves, man”…people are you?
Itchee Dryback on July 22, 2009 at 9:21 PM
Can someone tell me why McCain would take Obama’s relationship with Bill Ayers and Rev. Right and all his past associations off the table. Why did McCain shut up Bill Cunningham during the campaign? Why was Hussein a forbiden word during the campaign and now Obama jokes about it?
fourdeucer on July 22, 2009 at 9:22 PM
Ha! No YOU need to do better than that. I’m sorry, there is more evidence on my side than the pseudo-legal arguments of birthers.
DanStark on July 22, 2009 at 9:23 PM
For the same reason that Graham is voting for Sotomayor – because they are MORONS who understand nothing. Allah falls into the same class.
progressoverpeace on July 22, 2009 at 9:24 PM
The ever pissy Missy Chrissy….
At least he is consistent. Kinda like taking Metamucil… you can count on the regular turd output every day.
paragon27x on July 22, 2009 at 9:25 PM
Because, if you question obama’s past association, you are like the 9/11 truther – dont’ ask me, but that is what the heart and soul of the party said
runner on July 22, 2009 at 9:25 PM
What’s it matter if Obama was born in the USA or Kenya to Chrissie?
He gets a hardon either way.
What a waste of airtime that network is.
Sapwolf on July 22, 2009 at 9:26 PM
All you are arguing is that a person should not have to prove, to a court, his Constitutional eligibility to be President if some American requests it. You just don’t want the Constitution followed, intentionally. You should be very proud of yourself.
progressoverpeace on July 22, 2009 at 9:27 PM
FIFY.
Do you feel the same way about the ‘fringe’ CONcepts of the left with their socialist flavor?
Itchee Dryback on July 22, 2009 at 9:27 PM
They have been given access to the information they seek.
Obama has sealed access to everything.
Big difference.
And thank you for calling me and others “fringe rubbish”. If Palin starts a 3rd party- I will gladly go since you don’t need me.
journeyintothewhirlwind on July 22, 2009 at 9:27 PM
I don’t know for sure where Obama was born, Grandma Obama says Mombassa, Kenya is where she attended the birth of Barack Hussein Obama Jr. I know this, I have a birth certificate with my little feet prints on it. Dated 1946. Seems the years inbetween 46 and 61 they lost the ability to produce birth certificates. A certificate of live birth seem redundant considering he is breathing. I want to see a certificate with feetprints on it. Would be nice if Obama’s name and place of birth were also there. Why is that so difficult?
Zelsdorf Ragshaft on July 22, 2009 at 9:28 PM
How about a document expert:
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2008/07/atlas-tech-expe.html
Now, explain why his actual vault birth certificate, which is supposed to be part of the public record, is now sealed?
Rebar on July 22, 2009 at 9:28 PM
What’s it matter if Obama was born in the USA or Kenya to Chrissie?
He gets a hardon either way.
What a waste of airtime that network is.
Sapwolf on July 22, 2009 at 9:26 PM
LOL I assume thats a typo, but it fits!!
stacy on July 22, 2009 at 9:29 PM
Now I don’t believe myself to be a man with all the answers….but I’ll give it a shot.
1. Ayers was brought up by McCain, a televised debate even, yet it didn’t gain any traction.
2. The Rev. Wright attack, no matter how much it complicated with Obama’s image, was political suicide and McCain knew it. Any criticism about Obama’s pastor would be portrayed, no matter how false, as racist. Is that fair? No. Would it have won McCain the election? No. Enough information was out there by the media already (this was during the primaries, Clinton benefited a little I think, not much).
3. The middle name controversy is due to the fact that the name Hussein is emphasized in some cases, which gives the appearance of xenophobia (and hint: Bitherism, alleged foreigner, etc.).
DanStark on July 22, 2009 at 9:31 PM
No legal arguements. Just two simple questions (actually one, just asked two different ways).
Why can’t we see it?
What is on it that makes it a Top Secret document?
Hog Wild on July 22, 2009 at 9:31 PM
Better to be a birther and end up wrong than drink the cool-aid and end up dead wrong.
fourdeucer on July 22, 2009 at 9:31 PM
If this was about practically any other politician, I would say it’s bogus, but this guy?
I wouldn’t believe this man if he told me the sun was hot – I’d find it out for myself.
With his background (Alinsky, Acorn, Weather Underground, Black Liberation Theology, etc.), I would welcome an investigation on anything he did. Exposure is the only way to get the coackroaches out of the walls so you can give em the Black Flag!
Joe Pyne on July 22, 2009 at 9:32 PM
I’ve been hearing some rumors about a one-night strike against cops….literally kill every cop you can.
I think this is some attempt to underpin a revolt against Obama’s fascism.
Anyone else heard anything?
LimeyGeek on July 22, 2009 at 9:32 PM
But even Bush 41 was an illegtimate president since he became Vice President after Regan made the “secret hostage deal” (the so-called “October Surprise”) with the Iranians.
Tongue in cheek, now.
Hell, we haven’t had a legitimate president since… gulp.. Jimmy Carter?
Please tell me I didn’t type that sentence.
SteveMG on July 22, 2009 at 9:32 PM
I know, not my best, was in a rush! Heh
javamartini on July 22, 2009 at 9:33 PM
if Hardnut thinks all these people are crazy, then why don’t he report the whole story. He keeps saying what he is showing is the BC, it’s not. He may have a real BC in Hawaii but that is not what he released. The question is not, “Is he a citizen?” Its, “Is he a Natural Born Citizen?” Matthew is not reporting all the stuff brought up about the issue. He is a hack, and nothing more.
kara26 on July 22, 2009 at 9:34 PM
Who is this “DanStark,” Andrew Sullivan?
Joe Pyne on July 22, 2009 at 9:35 PM
What the hell are you talking about?
javamartini on July 22, 2009 at 9:35 PM
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