Open thread: Guy who “rescued” the economy going to “rescue” American health care too
posted at 7:21 pm on July 22, 2009 by Allahpundit
Alternate headline if Hot Air wasn’t a family site: “Let me be clear: The time has come to drive American health care into a f***ing ditch.” Only the press corps knows what’s in store for the Q&A but The One’s opening remarks will not disappoint. Evidently he’s going to go after Jim DeMint again for daring to suggest that this is all about him even though it is, in fact, and reportedly by his own admission, all about him. Plus this tasty morsel, which we’ll be feeding back to Barry for many, many years to come:
I have also pledged that health insurance reform will not add to our deficit over the next decade – and I mean it.
We’ll have video lowlights later, especially if someone other than Tapper and Major Garrett surprises by asking a tough question. For your drinking-game amusement, I recommend a sip every time he says something that you know he’ll be insisting he never said a year from now. E.g., “But let me be clear: We have always acknowledged the possibility of grandma waiting six years for a hip transplant.” Enjoy.
Update (Ed): I won’t be live-blogging this, but I’ll Twitter my reactions. You can follow along here, if you’re not on Twitter:
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I think Levin is going to be on Hannity. Should be interesting.
BadgerHawk on July 22, 2009 at 9:58 PM
I listened to this thing on radio, intermittently – just could not take it uninterrupted.
My take: the only stroke the guy put across was the thing about the “leading doctors’ and nurses’ associations” supporting Ogabe-Care.
Of course, intelligent people know that those organizations are as far Left as the teacher’s unions, but there must have been some idiot moderates out there who found that food for thought.
Maybe the GOP should point out that La Raza and other “immigrant’s rights” organizations are all for it, too.
guntotinglibertarian on July 22, 2009 at 9:58 PM
Were the stars aligned when he was born….see, he’s the anti-christ….
HornetSting on July 22, 2009 at 9:59 PM
jigger1
• noun 1 a machine or vehicle with a part that rocks or moves to and fro. 2 a person who dances a jig. 3 a small sail set at the stern of a ship. 4 a small tackle consisting of a double and single block with a rope. 5 a measure of spirits or wine.
• verb Brit. informal 1 rearrange or tamper with. 2 (jiggered) damaged, broken, or exhausted
ted c on July 22, 2009 at 10:00 PM
“I’m the president so I have the best healthcare plan in the world”…
But this isn’t about me, so I want you to have the crappy healthcare plan… No more blue/red pills, cut all the expensive test your doctor orders, “if you are a senior and need expensive surgery, just take a pain pill”; I’m the president so I know best!
TN Mom on July 22, 2009 at 10:00 PM
Great minds, Texas!
HornetSting on July 22, 2009 at 10:00 PM
It’s not about him at all.
SouthernGent on July 22, 2009 at 10:00 PM
the word Jigger is not racial–it is simply funny. Particularly, when he used the word “jimmy” to describe the same act.
ted c on July 22, 2009 at 10:01 PM
Where I grew up it was slang for penis – it has many meanings none of which involve getting into a house.
Urban dictionary… it’s one of those words you just don’t use.
batterup on July 22, 2009 at 10:01 PM
guntotinglibertarian:
According to this, doctors are supporting it because they have been bought.
I think a better point is that after demonizing doctors etc for making so much money, why tell us what they think?
Terrye on July 22, 2009 at 10:01 PM
Great minds, Texas!
HornetSting on July 22, 2009 at 10:00 PM
LOL!
txag92 on July 22, 2009 at 10:01 PM
In the year 2525
The Offical Language is now Jive
Let’s retrace the Great Timeline
It all began in 2009.
OneVision on July 22, 2009 at 10:02 PM
I live in one of the most liberal places in America – Marin County, CA – home to Babs Boxer.
A couple of months ago, I was on line at the local pharmacy. The were having problems with a new computer system, so the line was running over 30 minutes.
People were griping, grumbling.
So I said, to no one in particular, “Hey, get used to it. This is what your doctor’s office is gonna look like once we get socialized medicine.
Silence. People looking at the ceiling, at their shoes. They didn’t even have the guts to give me a dirty look.
guntotinglibertarian on July 22, 2009 at 10:02 PM
Jimmy: To pry (something) open with or as if with a jimmy: jimmy a door.
ted c on July 22, 2009 at 10:02 PM
Sean Hannity and Michael Steele: Pink ties are IN!!!
Marcus on July 22, 2009 at 10:03 PM
IrishEi:
Well trigger and snigger and bigger and digger and tigger rhyme with it too, but I doubt anyone would care if he used those words.
Terrye on July 22, 2009 at 10:03 PM
Jimmy: a cute guy I dated in HS
IrishEi on July 22, 2009 at 10:03 PM
Lefty Susan Estrich is not sold:
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/political_commentary/commentary_by_susan_estrich/mother_knows_best
mikeyboss on July 22, 2009 at 10:04 PM
My wife is an edondontist. If you come to her needing a root canal or oral surgery, your private plan will pay her $1500 to $2000.
Welfare insurance pays her $45 to $100.
That’s how they intend to keep costs down.
guntotinglibertarian on July 22, 2009 at 10:04 PM
JOTUS
faraway on July 22, 2009 at 10:04 PM
Terrye on July 22, 2009 at 10:03 PM
It’s mostly because he used the wrong word. He should have said “jimmy” the lock.
IrishEi on July 22, 2009 at 10:05 PM
Let us not forget rigger.
Terrye on July 22, 2009 at 10:05 PM
It was a really niggardly lock.
guntotinglibertarian on July 22, 2009 at 10:05 PM
Irish:
Well, I guess I get it, but in the scheme of things it seems a tad anal.
Terrye on July 22, 2009 at 10:05 PM
yes, jimmy the lock would be the right word.
ted c on July 22, 2009 at 10:06 PM
guntotinglibertarian:
You are playing with fire there boy.
Terrye on July 22, 2009 at 10:06 PM
Only 20% of doctors belong to AMA and aprox 13% of AMA are students, 7% are interns.
Lots of doctors are leaving the AMA due to support of Obamacare. Waterloo!
TN Mom on July 22, 2009 at 10:06 PM
guntotinglibertarian on July 22, 2009 at 10:02 PM
Good for you. More of us need to pipe up.
txag92 on July 22, 2009 at 10:06 PM
You must admit that this is the most intelligent President this nation has ever had. I am excited to know that now I won’t have to pay for health care anymore. Praise this great man and his excellent excellence. How can his skull contain the sheer size of his superior intellect? I stand in awe, I really do.
jimmy2shoes on July 22, 2009 at 10:06 PM
Ah, I’m on, but I try to keep my page relatively politics free (on the surface), so I’m friends with blatantblue, ernesto, Dark Current, and Loxodonta, but I’m not in any groups.
Esthier on July 22, 2009 at 10:07 PM
be kind
ted c on July 22, 2009 at 10:07 PM
obama wasn’t thinking with his dipshit, JIMMY!
HornetSting on July 22, 2009 at 10:07 PM
Robot.
jimbodeano67 on July 22, 2009 at 10:07 PM
I’m an OB. I still have an un-cashed check in my office in a frame from medicare in 1995 for an office visit on a patient for “0.00 dollars and 16 cents”. I survived not cashing it.
Marcus on July 22, 2009 at 10:08 PM
Actually, Terrye, that word means stingy or, if you will, miserly.
Lanceman on July 22, 2009 at 10:08 PM
So they’re not increasing your wife’s taxes, they’re cutting her income.
thomasaur on July 22, 2009 at 10:08 PM
guntotinglibertarian:
In that article it says they intend to increase medicare payments to doctors. So how is that supposed to cut medical costs?
The last time I had a crown done, it costs me about $700 and I have dental insurance.
Terrye on July 22, 2009 at 10:08 PM
I’ve added BB, Ladyingray, Lox, TxAg92, Bazil9….and since then, my page has been splattered with conservative values….which is good, I have a lot of liberal friends and I know it makes them steam….
HornetSting on July 22, 2009 at 10:09 PM
Obambi must have been thinking about how he got elected. A grand Freudian slip!
OneVision on July 22, 2009 at 10:10 PM
Presidential solution.
Lanceman on July 22, 2009 at 10:10 PM
He’s a good guy like that, willing to use his… sexual tolerance for the public good.
Esthier on July 22, 2009 at 10:10 PM
Lanceman:
I know what the word niggardly means, but nonetheless it is quite daring. We live in a world where what we say is less important that what someone else infers from what we say.
Terrye on July 22, 2009 at 10:10 PM
He’s gotta fan page? Gotta go check that out (and check on my grapes at the Farm)
XWing5 on July 22, 2009 at 10:11 PM
Obama: “Cops are stupid”
faraway on July 22, 2009 at 10:11 PM
Barry Obama smoked way, way too much weed. It’s showin’.
Griz on July 22, 2009 at 10:11 PM
“It’s not about me, but I am the President and have the best Healthcare plan and the Republicans just want to oppose it to make me vulnerable.”
“Remember, its not about me. Or politics.”
Odie1941 on July 22, 2009 at 10:11 PM
Yeah. Where was it? Baltimore? A white commissioner or something like that used that word when speaking to a group of blacks. Pretty stupid of him.
Lanceman on July 22, 2009 at 10:12 PM
point 1 – he refered to himself in the third person (by way of the Obama Administration) no less then 5 times. The way he was running the clock he must think he is Mike Jordan.
Point 2 - The second to last question was a plant. The guy who snuck in the question got a lot of Mayo and Cleavlend clinic answers that were not part of the origional question. Then the next question was all about the Cleavland clinic. This must have screwed Obama up pretty badly.
point 3 – Nothing else but to say that he hurt himself more then helped himself tonight.
IMO – he is the model for Scott the Canadian from South Park
mechkiller_k on July 22, 2009 at 10:13 PM
My wife was a physician in Russia. I specifically counselled her to go to the expense and effort of dental school here because of Medicare and the potential for socialized medicine.
So far, so good. But veterinary medicine might have been a better call.
guntotinglibertarian on July 22, 2009 at 10:13 PM
And that’s why the only students going into medicine will be the ones whose test scores were too low to get them admitted to the basketweaving classes.
AZCoyote on July 22, 2009 at 10:13 PM
HornetSting:
I have never played that farmtown, I might have to give it a try.
Terrye on July 22, 2009 at 10:13 PM
Addicting. Very. Very. Addicting.
Found the Allah page – sweeeet. Sign me up!
XWing5 on July 22, 2009 at 10:14 PM
Being a vet takes a long long time. When I had my farm, my vet got his leg and arm broken while trying to work with an Amishman’s draft horse.
Terrye on July 22, 2009 at 10:14 PM
I think HA didn’t like my link to urban dictionary.
Where I grew up it was slang for penis – it has many meanings none of which involve getting into a house. It’s like when people accidently say they are “”putzing” around the house” instead of “puttering” (putz is yiddish for penis) – a funny mis-spoken word. It was funny, and the presser was depressing that’s all.
batterup on July 22, 2009 at 10:15 PM
I will have to sign myself up on the Allah page.
Terrye on July 22, 2009 at 10:15 PM
Say hello to your new doctor: Abdullah bin Osama bin Pakistani.
guntotinglibertarian on July 22, 2009 at 10:16 PM
…….I never plant grapes, I always forget and then they go to waste……I’ve also taken over my mom’s farm…..there has to be a twelve step program.
HornetSting on July 22, 2009 at 10:16 PM
Eboneered is the current term.
thomasaur on July 22, 2009 at 10:17 PM
Mike Allen of Politico is on with Hugh, his take on the droning done by the president is that it is intellectual and professorial. And after Bush people like to have things explained to them.
Cindy Munford on July 22, 2009 at 10:18 PM
Becoming a dental specialist takes a long, time, too.
And you’re required to work in your Ivy League dental school’s urban clinic, which, in my wife’s case, meant several accidental needle jabs in her fingers while working on patients with HIV and Hepatitis C.
guntotinglibertarian on July 22, 2009 at 10:18 PM
F
LibTired on July 22, 2009 at 10:18 PM
Red Sox blow a 1-0 lead
Del Dolemonte on July 22, 2009 at 10:19 PM
Dear President Obama: I seem to have a chronic burning discharge from my private parts. Could you please destroy the healthcare system to help me with this messy problem? And also, could you please fill my gas tank and pay my mortgage?
guntotinglibertarian on July 22, 2009 at 10:20 PM
guntotinglibertarian:
My dentist is a chatty kind of guy. He never shuts up. While he is working on me, he tells me stories of dental school and the people they sorta practiced on.
I know someone has to do that work, but I do not think I could ever be one of them.
My dentist was the only man I ever knew who told me mouth was too small. Really.
Terrye on July 22, 2009 at 10:20 PM
Since they are playing my Rangers, that works out well for me. The only thing that would be better would be if the Rangers were taking down O’s White Sox.
XWing5 on July 22, 2009 at 10:22 PM
Yeah, because like the cops we are soo stupid.
I never had a problem understanding Bush. But Obama makes my eyes glaze over. I just can not listen to the man.
Terrye on July 22, 2009 at 10:23 PM
Sitting here thinking back to when Presidents gave moving speeches. Ah…those were the days.
Thunderstorm129 on July 22, 2009 at 10:23 PM
I joined the fan club. It is kind of a little fan club. Poor allah.
Terrye on July 22, 2009 at 10:24 PM
Mark Levin on Hannity now
IrishEi on July 22, 2009 at 10:26 PM
My personal feelings.
thomasaur on July 22, 2009 at 10:26 PM
Rambling isn’t intellectual.
As I said before, O’Reily isn’t a lightweight and even he said he doesn’t have a clue what Obama said.
And I quote:
I have a 30 thousand dollar Masters degree from Harvard and I don’t have a clue what Obama just said.
Makes me chuckle.
Thunderstorm129 on July 22, 2009 at 10:26 PM
don’t forget the latest hate crimes bill(s)…. only whites and military vets are excluded, so what should one expect ?
pambi on July 22, 2009 at 10:26 PM
Fare thee well Dr. Vinne Boombotz and Dr. Al Bendova.
Hello Dr. Ahmed U. bin Alifetulan.
OneVision on July 22, 2009 at 10:26 PM
3-1 (MY) Rangers !! Go guys !
hehe
pambi on July 22, 2009 at 10:28 PM
for sure ! what an embarrassment, this O
pambi on July 22, 2009 at 10:29 PM
The more fans the better!! Now let’s friggin’ win this thing. After that disaster of a presser, I am feeling pretty good (but then the wine helps too.)
XWing5 on July 22, 2009 at 10:32 PM
Different people must be speaking different dialects. Where I come from jigger simply means to change things around in a kind of hit and miss manner as in, “We jiggered around with leave schedule until most everyone was OK with it”
Luka on July 22, 2009 at 10:34 PM
I unfortunately missed Mr. Obama’s blathering earlier so am joining in late but will someone please tell me how he is still able to turn the screws? Does he really believe he is right? Do his people believe he is right? or are they just all nincompoops with giant egos and liars bent on destroying the USA as we know it? Each day I am mystified by the monstrous proposals by Mr. Obama and his ilk that go unanswered giving the government control of our money, our personal information, our choices, and our liberties.
Mr. Obama speaks out of both sides of his mouth and thinks he is making sense? Watching the few clips I have, he looks like an man whose ego is so desperate to be right and will say and do anything to calm himself, including living in a fantasy world where physics and science don’t matter and only he has the true answers. I am really worried.
I want my country back.
Miss Molly on July 22, 2009 at 10:37 PM
Watching Hannity. How has Sean not climbed over that desk and given Bob Beckel a knuckle sandwich yet? I honestly don’t know why Sean has that guy on. I utterly loathe him. He personifies the fat, lying, liberal, corrupt scumbag. I. Loathe. Him.
Rational Thought on July 22, 2009 at 10:40 PM
well that’s an hour of my life i will never get back….my only response to the press conference is what in the world was he talking about…is it just that I am not smart enough or was his answers pure nonsense?
JKotthoff on July 22, 2009 at 10:45 PM
he came close just a second ago…
Miss Molly on July 22, 2009 at 10:46 PM
What he lied about, among many things, was the cost of people going to the ER who don’t have insurance. Who uses the ER as their own personal health clinic? Illegal aliens. Are we going to pay to insure them?
Blake on July 22, 2009 at 10:52 PM
Barry sings the oldies: “Oh it’s gonna be a long, lonely summer…”
Blacksmith on July 22, 2009 at 10:53 PM
I’m rushed because I get letters every day from families who are getting CLOBBERED by health care cost. And they ask me, can you help? I got a middle aged couple who will write me….blah blah blah
________________________________________________________
Wonder why Bammy never mentions any of my letters to him? I bet he is just too busy every morning reading all that mail….geez what a putz!
JohnD9207 on July 22, 2009 at 10:55 PM
47 million minus 12 million illegals = 35M
20M people between the ages of 20-35 who refuse to pay for health insurance they don’t need=15M
15M minus 3-4 million of people between jobs who will have insurance in 90 days or less= 11M
There fixed it. Now who wants a government takeover for 11 million people out of 300 million americans?
Demand that the Govt. fix medicare, medicaid, and the VA HEALTH CARE SYSTEM first!
JohnD9207 on July 22, 2009 at 11:00 PM
Obama is a doofus. He is an arrogant putz. He is a self-absorbed ignoramus. He is a statist.
Did I get the presser right?
daesleeper on July 22, 2009 at 11:03 PM
This thread is fckig huge
blatantblue on July 22, 2009 at 11:10 PM
John it appears that you are unfamiliar with the wingnut conspiracy theory of the manufactured crisis a/k/a the Croward and Piven strategery. Google it.
GTR640 on July 22, 2009 at 11:17 PM
Miss Molly on July 22, 2009 at 10:42 PM
Ha ha, those little bugs are called Chiggers not jiggers. They are particularly bothersome to men
Dollayo on July 22, 2009 at 11:19 PM
jiggers…chiggers…= Red bugs
spacewife on July 22, 2009 at 11:20 PM
He gets all these letters but is using the same lines from like Monday. I mean, a man getting that many letters on a daily basis ought to have some fresh material.
MarkABinVA on July 22, 2009 at 11:25 PM
Poor performance by Obambi. Prediction: Support for Obamacare drops below 40% before the August recess.
Norwegian on July 22, 2009 at 11:25 PM
The bottom line……..
Receptionist: “Be a good Dear, and stand over there in that line……”
Seven Percent Solution on July 22, 2009 at 11:26 PM
I realize all politicians lie but, this guy has some serious game. Simply amazing. I like how he refers to the federal coffers as “the kitty”. So eloquent, sir.
MarkABinVA on July 22, 2009 at 11:28 PM
Folks on medicare/medicaide do. The hospital my wife is a nurse at now makes them pay their $3 copay when they come in to the ER. From what I understand it’s cheaper for them to use the ER as a doctors office than it is for them to actually go to the doctor and have to pay the copay that visit would require.
boomer on July 22, 2009 at 11:30 PM
I understand what the President is saying. Like him, I am rushed. Like him, I am being clobbered. It unfair and the result of what other people have done that I must bear this burden. But I do bear it, every day of my life.
Like the President, I receive letters. Many of them are from various taxing authorities, alleging various possible violations of the laws of my applicable state/country. They clobber me. I am stressed. I rush out of the house, leap into my car, and tear off to work, to make the money to send to the taxman to end this repeating NIGHTMARE OF CLOBBERING, JIGGERING LETTERS!!!!!!
GTR640 on July 22, 2009 at 11:31 PM
Do all Chicago crime bosses refer to it as “the kitty”?
boomer on July 22, 2009 at 11:32 PM
Nice hand, sir.
MarkABinVA on July 22, 2009 at 11:32 PM
“And that’s why this is going to start in 2013.”
LibTired on July 22, 2009 at 11:33 PM
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