Obama to Dems wavering on health care: “You’re going to destroy my presidency”
posted at 12:06 pm on July 22, 2009 by Allahpundit
Like I told you the other day: It’s all about the O. Isn’t it always?
Grassley said he spoke with a Democratic House member last week who shared Obama’s bleak reaction during a private meeting to reports that some factions of House Democrats were lining up to stall or even take down the overhaul unless leaders made major changes.
“Let’s just lay everything on the table,” Grassley said. “A Democrat congressman last week told me after a conversation with the president that the president had trouble in the House of Representatives, and it wasn’t going to pass if there weren’t some changes made … and the president says, ‘You’re going to destroy my presidency.’”
Consider this a complete vindication of DeMint’s point, which Obama pretended to take such offense at, that if the GOP defeats ObamaCare “it will be his Waterloo, it will break him…” Evidently The One couldn’t agree more, and with good reason. If he can’t deliver on his centerpiece policy goal with bulletproof majorities in Congress, not only will it haunt him in 2012 but he’ll have to reconsider the public’s appetite for the whole Hopenchange/Great Society agenda. Failure wouldn’t destroy his presidency so much as it would destroy his presidency as he imagined it; he’d have to remake himself as a sort of Clintonian centrist and become the “pragmatist” all those thoughtful conservatives like David Brooks and Christopher Buckley promised us he’d be before he was sworn in and started pushing 13-digit deficits.
Here’s Krauthammer from last night’s “Special Report” explaining the stakes and why, in the end, Obama will swallow whatever watered-down crap Congress hands him. Hint: It’s all about the O.
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The center does not hold…
Akzed on July 22, 2009 at 12:32 PM
One minute ago:
JiangxiDad on July 22, 2009 at 12:32 PM
It’s funny how Clinton’s popularity went up he made it more about personality than policy, and portrayed himself as a victim of a vast, right-wing conspiracy. Democrats are really good at pretending the be the victim, even when they have all the power.
JohnJ on July 22, 2009 at 12:33 PM
I heard a woman call a radio show and complain about Krauthammer. She said that he was arguing that the republicans should not get involved and just let the democrats fight it out and fail. The caller was afraid it would end up like cap and tax and the democrats would all be bought off in the end while the republicans remained silent.
She’s right. Krautboy is not god.
Blake on July 22, 2009 at 12:33 PM
Seems appropriate……
Bloodhound Gang – The Roof is on Fire
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on July 22, 2009 at 12:33 PM
flanks are collapsing….
is he going to plug the leaks in his line with snowe, collins and softy democrats…?
will pelosi come to his aid..?
how about harry…?
Let’s see who gets hung out to dry.
ted c on July 22, 2009 at 12:33 PM
I want him impeached and as far away from power as possible.
progressoverpeace on July 22, 2009 at 12:33 PM
Palin: Unconditional Surrender
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faraway on July 22, 2009 at 12:34 PM
His Cairo speech alone stands as solid evidence that his presidency has spawned a new direction for peace and prosperity on Earth. You heard it, right? How could he possibly falter after speaking those words?
Green Muse on July 22, 2009 at 12:34 PM
good one, faraway!
Ahh, but the healthcare bill, that’s… that’s where I had them. They laughed at me and made jokes but I proved beyond the shadow of a doubt and with… geometric logic… that a duplicate key to the Treasury DID exist, and I’d have produced that key if they hadn’t of pulled my adminstration out of action. I, I, I know now they were only trying to protect some fellow Senators…
gordo on July 22, 2009 at 12:34 PM
If the Obama Healthcare bill fails and God I hope it does. What will the so called “Blue Dog” Democrats do? Think about it they are so screwed!!
Dire Straits on July 22, 2009 at 12:34 PM
Groan.
BadgerHawk on July 22, 2009 at 12:34 PM
How do we know this is true? This is gossip as far as I’m concerned.
ballz2wallz on July 22, 2009 at 12:34 PM
Pelosi’s bluffing…
ted c on July 22, 2009 at 12:34 PM
Bad idea. Or are you looking forward to President Pelosi?
Say what you want about his unfitness for the job, at least Barry’s got great job security when batters 2 and 3 this inning are “Plugs” Biden and “Batty” Pelosi.
Blacksmith on July 22, 2009 at 12:34 PM
Boehner told America that Pelosi has no more arms to break in the House…
ted c on July 22, 2009 at 12:35 PM
But he forgot about legs and kneecaps.
ICBM on July 22, 2009 at 12:35 PM
She thinks the sob stories are working no doubt. But they’re not.
FontanaConservative on July 22, 2009 at 12:36 PM
The radicals are ready to eat their own. Lastest post from the DUmmies.
I’m thinking they statists will be running a lot of challengers to incumbent Dems next year.
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on July 22, 2009 at 12:36 PM
The problem is that the President has no real sales experience. He doesn’t consider the “What’s in it for me?” angle.
Now, if he’s saying that it will bring down his power and the targeted Dems as well, then that’s a real WIIFM statement. If it’s all focused on him, then that doesn’t have much persuasive power.
meep on July 22, 2009 at 12:37 PM
So how many threats were made yesterday by Barry in his big meeting with the Blue Dawgs?
Or better yet, how much money was passed under the table?
This is not good news……..
Knucklehead on July 22, 2009 at 12:37 PM
I think it’s reasonable to conclude, or perhaps that the administration has concluded (more importantly), that as each passing day turns it is becoming more apparent that he is a one termer. If momentum is peaked, then the only time to get it done is now.
The further this vote is removed from his mandate (so called) the further it slips into the fold of failure.
anuts on July 22, 2009 at 12:37 PM
Yes he is. It’s the notion of giving the Dems enough rope. It’s Churchill saying “never kill an enemy while he’s committing suicide.”
Crap n’ Trade is dead. Obamacare is dead. The Dems overreached on stimulus and no one believes them.
John the Libertarian on July 22, 2009 at 12:38 PM
Agreed.
She doesn’t have crap.
Thunderstorm129 on July 22, 2009 at 12:38 PM
I think it was Chrissy a couple of days ago that asked someone if the public would hold Republicans responsible for failure to get healthcare passed? HUH? Do they not hold all the cards? Sure Chrissy. Republicans brought this down.
Ha!
yakwill83 on July 22, 2009 at 12:38 PM
Good lord… is anyone hearing these jackass questions Matt Lauer is asking DeMint that Rush is playing right now?
Pasalubong on July 22, 2009 at 12:39 PM
I call BS on that.
teffertoes on July 22, 2009 at 12:39 PM
Waterloooooooooooooooooooooo!
WaterlooWaterlooWaterlooWaterlooWaterloo!
petefrt on July 22, 2009 at 12:39 PM
Demint should think about running for President!!!
Dire Straits on July 22, 2009 at 12:39 PM
what’s money going to buy these guys now? When the President is marginalizing these congressmen from their constituents like THIS..?—it ain’t Obama that’s going back home in 2 weeks..
ted c on July 22, 2009 at 12:39 PM
But you have to think that the public record would show them voting AGAINST it. Unless you’re Jon Carry who’ll say I was aginnit before I was firrit….
CynicalOptimist on July 22, 2009 at 12:40 PM
getting thrown under the bus works both ways….
once The Won’s ratings are below 50%, the bus gets a new driver… and he’ll join Richardson and Daschle under his own bus.
ted c on July 22, 2009 at 12:40 PM
Clearly nothing Pelosi says should be believed. The question is whether someone with credibility has anything to add.
JiangxiDad on July 22, 2009 at 12:41 PM
Agreed.
teffertoes on July 22, 2009 at 12:41 PM
Yes…
NO one should be surprised that Matt is trying to make it personal and mold the argument to what the Dem talking points want. He’s so obvious, like a wet spot on your pants as you leave the restroom.
Thunderstorm129 on July 22, 2009 at 12:41 PM
The ship is sinking. Trap the rats.
faraway on July 22, 2009 at 12:41 PM
Very true. The fact that an MSNBC reporter who regularly fills in for Olberfart makes me think that’s crap.
teffertoes on July 22, 2009 at 12:42 PM
Oh Boy! Rush just said Obama is calling out the Brown Shirts and ACORN!!! Had to figure this was gonna happen.
Dire Straits on July 22, 2009 at 12:42 PM
A better question……All those Dem’s who are up for re-election, are they going to get Barry out on the stump for them or will they hide Barry like the Republicans hid Bush?
Knucklehead on July 22, 2009 at 12:42 PM
this is epic in proportion—we are front and center in this history folks.
ted c on July 22, 2009 at 12:43 PM
A more cogent question for Chrissy: If Obama gets his healthcare, carbon tax, and other Marxist policies rammed down our throats, how many decades will it be before another Dem is elected to the WH?
petefrt on July 22, 2009 at 12:43 PM
Yummy. btw, gonna use the “statists” handle. I think it will work well as a weapon, if not against Obama, then against dem. voters.
JiangxiDad on July 22, 2009 at 12:43 PM
Or better yet, how much money was passed under the table?
This is not good news……..
Knucklehead on July 22, 2009 at 12:37 PM
With less than 10% of the stimulus money spent the blue dogs are ripe for bribes.
fourdeucer on July 22, 2009 at 12:44 PM
knucklehead—Those Blue Dog Democrats will become the newest conservatives around. Next year, EVERYBODY is going to be a conservative, because that’s the only boat that’s going to float next year. mark my words….
ted c on July 22, 2009 at 12:44 PM
Obama is drowning in the deep end. He will crack before his 4 years are up.
RR
ramrants on July 22, 2009 at 12:44 PM
What presidency?????? He’s not legally president anyway!
xler8bmw on July 22, 2009 at 12:44 PM
Hillary, I can hear you.
faraway on July 22, 2009 at 12:45 PM
Even if Pelosi has good reason to believe they have the votes now…it doesn’t look like a vote will come up before the recess. That’s when the fence sitters will be at home. Their constituents have more power in their job security than Pelosi. Something to consider.
anuts on July 22, 2009 at 12:45 PM
Sure–let those Blue Dogs eat some of that rat shit money, see what it buys for them. See what happened to Sebelius, Carnahan and Castle at townhall meetings…. The people are going to eat their fricking lunch and put them under siege….
ted c on July 22, 2009 at 12:45 PM
maybe that’s why tapper re-tweated something Shuster said, instead of reporting it on his own– esp. as the guy’s from another network.
Maybe Tapper was trying to ridicule Schuster.
JiangxiDad on July 22, 2009 at 12:45 PM
Obama is drowning in the deep end. He will crack before
his 4 years are up.midnight tonight.ramrants on July 22, 2009 at 12:44 PM
FIFY dude
ted c on July 22, 2009 at 12:46 PM
Hoyer was just on Fox saying that ObamaCare will pass the House before the recess.
txag92 on July 22, 2009 at 12:47 PM
It’d make sense. They wanted an agreement/bill for the President before his press conference. This is late… and weak.
Patrick Ishmael on July 22, 2009 at 12:47 PM
Rush said that if the Obarfing badministration had tried to pass health scare before the porkulus, it would have passed easily.
He further said that he bet Rahm-bo was stabbing a knife into his steak, the table, and sending himself a dead fish…
ladyingray on July 22, 2009 at 12:48 PM
hoyer’s bluffing…
ted c on July 22, 2009 at 12:48 PM
Tru dat, playa. Here ya go…..
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on July 22, 2009 at 12:48 PM
To get Barry his legacy congress will pass the Rube Goldberg HealthCare Reform Act. Shortly after half the hospitals and clinics will be transformed into available property.
Limerick on July 22, 2009 at 12:48 PM
Pure BS! He can’t be all that worried since they continue to party on at the White House, while we sit out here and grind our teeth into powder.
http://www.kxmc.com/News/409163.asp
“President Obama says he may be a “city boy” but he appreciates country music. He and Mrs. Obama sure looked like they were enjoying last night’s country music concert at the White House. They, the Obama girls, staffers and elected officials filled the East Room at the White House to hear Charley Pride, Alison Kraus and Union Station and Brad Paisley.
http://primebuzz.kcstar.com/?q=node/19299
Obama understands one part as he told the crowd:
“After all, that’s what country music is all about — storytelling.”
But he doesn’t understand this part, as he told the crowd:
“And like all great art, a great country song also has a commitment to truth — to telling the truth like it is, without pulling any punches.”
Yoop on July 22, 2009 at 12:48 PM
I hope you’re right. I think Tapper is a straight shooter, so maybe so.
teffertoes on July 22, 2009 at 12:49 PM
If the Democrats can’t get the health care bill out of committee in the House, it’s hard to see how they have “the votes”, unless the White House was able to convince a bunch of Blue Dogs to commit political career suicide on Tuesday.
jon1979 on July 22, 2009 at 12:50 PM
Why does it feel like all hell is breaking loose?
teffertoes on July 22, 2009 at 12:50 PM
Let this guy try and bribe all those folks in the House–let them take that pay to play money–and then watch the fallout.
ain’t gonna happen, tonight is just a man nailing his own coffin shut.
ted c on July 22, 2009 at 12:50 PM
Breaking on Fox……..
Orin Hatch is walking away from healthcare negotiations.
I don’t know what that means.
More to follow.
Knucklehead on July 22, 2009 at 12:50 PM
cuz it is teffertoes, cuz it is…
ted c on July 22, 2009 at 12:51 PM
Destroy his presidency ?
Good…… Get out before it happens and save face.
Resign. Today would be nice and please take that entire band of Jihadists with you too.
One more thing…… On the way out, don’t let the door hit ya where The Good Lord split ya.
Kenny Solomon
Locked and loaded in South Florida.
E T Cartman on July 22, 2009 at 12:51 PM
Obama is cracking up.
faraway on July 22, 2009 at 12:51 PM
It’s MY presidency Barrack not yours. You govern, you don’t rule.
Mojave Mark on July 22, 2009 at 12:51 PM
good for him, go orrin go.
ted c on July 22, 2009 at 12:51 PM
Keep me posted…
ladyingray on July 22, 2009 at 12:51 PM
If Health Care doesn’t pass:
Americas wins
Obama loses
Democratic congress survives
If Health Care passes:
America loses
AND once the results are in
Obama loses catastrophically
Democratic congress loses catastrophically
MaiDee on July 22, 2009 at 12:51 PM
Mike Allen from Politico–just now.
Seems like Obama is going to declare HC victory tonight.
JiangxiDad on July 22, 2009 at 12:51 PM
Guess Ms Hagan can join Heath Shuler on the “Dead Man Walking” list.
Dire Straits on July 22, 2009 at 12:52 PM
this is damage control writ large…
ted c on July 22, 2009 at 12:52 PM
Do these people think that if they keep saying they have the votes and this bill will pass, that it will someone make it happen? Like thinking positively or some nonsense?
Thunderstorm129 on July 22, 2009 at 12:52 PM
continued:
..that he’s on track … to fulfill his promise to sign a health care reform bill before the end of the year.”
Sounds like total crap.
JiangxiDad on July 22, 2009 at 12:52 PM
politico’s bluffing…
ted c on July 22, 2009 at 12:52 PM
any semblance of good news today on this issue is merely card tricks…
ted c on July 22, 2009 at 12:53 PM
the only thing Obama’s going to sign by the end of the year is a partial order for bandaids and ass cream for house democrats….
ted c on July 22, 2009 at 12:53 PM
any semblance of good news today on this issue is merely card tricks…
ted c on July 22, 2009 at 12:53 PM
Good news for whom?
ladyingray on July 22, 2009 at 12:53 PM
No. Tell a lie often enough and it’s believed. Krauthammer also said it. Obama is just going to claim victory, the PR machine will go into overdrive, and they’ll move on.
JiangxiDad on July 22, 2009 at 12:53 PM
What he declares is almost never what is actually happening. I’m interested in the facts. Let’s hope those are still against him.
BadgerHawk on July 22, 2009 at 12:54 PM
good news for obama–card tricks
ted c on July 22, 2009 at 12:54 PM
Bad news for us, of course. Yet I think bad news for them as well. This rush to get it through will be reciprocated in the mid terms. It also means more outrage on the senate side which could translate into added pressure for them to kill it.
With all eggs seeming to go into this basket post haste, I have to wonder two things, what chamber would they rather keep their majority in and which one are they expecting to lose.
anuts on July 22, 2009 at 12:56 PM
Will do and see you tonight on the “Panel”
Whoot!
Knucklehead on July 22, 2009 at 12:56 PM
Seems like Obama’s bluff/lies are being believed for less and less time. Wish there was a chart on that. One day, his words will have no effect at all. Obama breaks the bully pulpit, dirties the WH, and degrades the nation. Legacy.
JiangxiDad on July 22, 2009 at 12:56 PM
or,
“One of you will betray me”
tomg51 on July 22, 2009 at 12:57 PM
I have to laugh, that tool Avlon on the Daily Beast who claims to be a republican but does nothing but attack and lie about republicans is not going after the birthers instead of going after the phony healthcare reforms.
This RINO tool needs to be tarred and feathered.
Blake on July 22, 2009 at 12:57 PM
of course Pelosi and Hoyer and Reid are going out to declare victory or some good news…of course they are…
don’t believe them. they’re railroading the members of the House
ted c on July 22, 2009 at 12:57 PM
Barry sounds like he’s about a heartbeat away from a timeout. If he keeps this up, after his press conference tonight he might not get a special treat before bed.
Jim Treacher on July 22, 2009 at 12:58 PM
I’d love to seem them try. The video of Castle being laughed at is telling, as in the American people see through the crap better than I/we think they do.
That’s why I am always shaking my head at their temerity.
Thunderstorm129 on July 22, 2009 at 12:58 PM
Keep an eye on Hillary.
She can’t let Obama completely destroy the Democratic party (and therefore her chances at the Presidency in 2012).
faraway on July 22, 2009 at 12:59 PM
Knucklehead on July 22, 2009 at 12:56 PM
No panel tonight due to the presser…Bret tweeted.
ladyingray on July 22, 2009 at 12:59 PM
8:00pm is sure a looonnnnggg waaaayy awaayyyyy
ted c on July 22, 2009 at 12:59 PM
I hope you’re referring to a cigarette. I just ate.
Thunderstorm129 on July 22, 2009 at 1:00 PM
quick nancy get out there—tell em something good.
like what mr president.
like we’ve got some cake for ‘em….try dat
ted c on July 22, 2009 at 1:00 PM
BREAKING NEWS: Criss Angel is at the White House teaching Barry to levitate!! More press releases coming.
Dire Straits on July 22, 2009 at 1:00 PM
where’s my binky!!!
waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!
cmsinaz on July 22, 2009 at 1:01 PM
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