CA Republicans threaten to scuttle budget deal
posted at 2:55 pm on July 22, 2009 by Ed Morrissey
It took less than a day for the California budget compromise to start coming apart at the seams. Democrats and Republicans agreed on a sweeping package of cuts and budgetary gimmicks to erase a $26 billion deficit in state spending for this fiscal year, predicated on an agreement not to release prisoners early. No sooner had the ink dried when Democrats reversed that position, leaving Republicans fuming — and promising to torpedo the compromise:
Threatening to scuttle California’s budget deal, Assembly Republican leader Sam Blakeslee accused Democrats on Tuesday of double-crossing him with an emerging plan to reduce the state’s prison population.
In an e-mail to colleagues titled “Budget Double Cross?” Blakeslee said the budget negotiated with Democrats clearly ruled out “early prisoner releases.”
Blakeslee also said that leaders had agreed to tackle the prison issue in August after the main budget bills had been approved by the Legislature, an action that tentatively is scheduled for Thursday.
“Just two hours ago I learned from staff that Senate Democrats are concocting a radioactive corrections bill that includes the worst of the worst – a sentencing commission and release of 27,000 prisoners, etc.,” Blakeslee wrote.
The Assembly Republican leader added that he had informed Assembly Speaker Karen Bass and Senate President Pro Tem Darrell Steinberg that “there will be no Republican votes for any portion of the budget if they allow such a bill to be part of the package.”
Arnold Schwarzenegger had used the threat of releasing thousands of prisoners onto California streets as a means to scare voters into supporting hefty tax increases in a special election. That attempt utterly failed, and Republicans thought they had driven a stake through the heart of the idea in budget negotiations. The Democrats seem insistent on releasing some prisoners, although they want to put them under electronic surveillance rather than release them outright.
Perhaps a case can be made that this will save California money, but that seems a little far-fetched. The electronic surveillance costs money, as does police response on alarms. The governor, apparently part of Democratic confabs on the issue, says that the idea is to keep people from entering the prison system in the first place, which might make more sense.
Will this get resolved “amicably,” as Schwarzenegger promises? We’ll soon see.










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I’m not sure why this shell game and taking money from cities is considered a good idea in the first place.
lorien1973 on July 22, 2009 at 2:58 PM
This kind of thing should have no place in our Republic. Rule by threat of harm is tyranny, I don’t care who you are.
CP on July 22, 2009 at 2:58 PM
Good for the California GOP to use what little clout they have in this way.
highhopes on July 22, 2009 at 2:58 PM
Surprise — not!
TexasDave on July 22, 2009 at 2:59 PM
It wasn’t even a good deal to begin with — adding extra days to the revenue year portion of the plan is what helped bankrupt New York City in the 1960s and 70s — but the Democrats apparently just can’t help themselves in trying to rig the agreement after the fact.
jon1979 on July 22, 2009 at 2:59 PM
Did they already try closing the libraries?
tarpon on July 22, 2009 at 2:59 PM
“My name is Tony Montana, ahn Ih’m ah poleeteecal prisuhner.”
OhEssYouCowboys on July 22, 2009 at 2:59 PM
I’d like to think that all of the released criminals will remain in California and perhaps even find that Sacremento is a charming place to live.
myrenovations on July 22, 2009 at 3:00 PM
Compromise – Release the prisoners and lock up the Democrats.
If this works, we can apply it nationwide.
The prisoners steal less than the Democrats anyway.
NoDonkey on July 22, 2009 at 3:01 PM
The land of fruits and nuts.
Wade on July 22, 2009 at 3:01 PM
Maybe they should just release all the Mexicans back to Mexico.
That might solve some of the problem.
ORconservative on July 22, 2009 at 3:02 PM
when will republicans LEARN that you can’t make a deal with the devil…er democRATs??
they screwed reagan with the amnesty, and ‘$2 of cuts for every $ of tax increase’ as I remember..
right4life on July 22, 2009 at 3:02 PM
They are going to have to deal with those pension plans sooner or later.
Socmodfiscon on July 22, 2009 at 3:02 PM
Screw Arnold. I saw him on one of the morning shows today. He was asked if the GOP was playing politics to kill health care and he laughed and said of course they were.
BPD on July 22, 2009 at 3:03 PM
the Dems lie?????? Change the agreement at the last minute???? Can’t be the Dem Party I know…../sarc
search4truth on July 22, 2009 at 3:03 PM
Just as Japanese businessmen have the basic philosophy that “business is war”, Democrat politicians here for the past four decades or so are totally committed to the ethos that “POLITICS IS WAR”, with no Geneva Convention.
Dems lie, cheat, and rob anyone and everyone to accomplish their objectives, with no feelings of guilt or shame. We are dealing with a relentless enemy who won’t stop, can’t be reasoned with and won’t compromise in any meaningful way.
Until every Republican politician understands that and adjusts his behavior accordingly, this increasingly fanatic-driven Party will have an inherent advantage over us, all the live-long day and every day of the week
Meanwhile, tourism is down in California, adding to the state’s problems.
Janos Hunyadi on July 22, 2009 at 3:05 PM
That’s a true statement. The GOP is playing politics to kill off a bad piece of legislation. The Democrats are playing politics to kill off you!
highhopes on July 22, 2009 at 3:05 PM
Give us Barrabus!
NoDonkey on July 22, 2009 at 3:06 PM
As long as Manson is released, I’m ok with it.
Bishop on July 22, 2009 at 3:06 PM
You can bet the 27,000 to be released will have the last name of Hernandez, Garcia, etc…that won’t save the state much money.
right2bright on July 22, 2009 at 3:06 PM
Ogabe and the demorats. New… powerful… hooked into everything, trusted to run it all. They say the party got smart, a new order of intelligence. Then it saw all people as a threat, not just the ones on the other side. Decided our fate in a microsecond: extermination.
Listen, and understand. That demorats are out there. They can’t be bargained with. They can’t be reasoned with. They don’t feel pity, or remorse, or fear. And they absolutely will not stop, ever, until you are dead.
Bishop on July 22, 2009 at 3:10 PM
And here I was telling someone last night that I thought it would last TWO days….
cthulhu on July 22, 2009 at 3:12 PM
That should be brought up everytime.
He had a comprehensive step by step process for illegals to become legal…education, work, test, all of it promised to be supported. As soon as the bill is passed, the dems (because they had control) amended (gutted) it (it may have been they didn’t fund it). Probably one of the most blatant lies in political congressional history.
right2bright on July 22, 2009 at 3:12 PM
Wait ….
The Democrats agreed to the compromise, and now they’re reneging on the deal?
I’m shocked — SHOCKED, I say — to hear that the Democrats are utterly untrustworthy and disingenuous!
MrAndMrsSmith on July 22, 2009 at 3:13 PM
Raw Deal.
Maquis on July 22, 2009 at 3:15 PM
“I like you Blakeslee, that’s why I’m going to kill you last.”
Bishop on July 22, 2009 at 3:16 PM
Democrats backsliding on a prior deal? Go figure.
GarandFan on July 22, 2009 at 3:17 PM
California + Schwarzenegger = Idiocy
rplat on July 22, 2009 at 3:17 PM
Sooner…the baby boomers are retiring.
Basically you are paying double for most every job in California.
One for the pension, and one for the person taking the pension job.
Average retirement is something like 80% of pay, and full benefits for life.
And more then a few have double pensions. You could work for the state for 15 years, then take a few years off, then work as a teacher for 15 years, and receive double pensions.
right2bright on July 22, 2009 at 3:17 PM
Can’t Pelosi’s and Waxman’s districts handle the 27,000?
J.J. Sefton on July 22, 2009 at 3:17 PM
Better yet, ship them to Barbara Boxer.
J.J. Sefton on July 22, 2009 at 3:18 PM
Who cares about this crap?????? Michelle has a new do!!!!!!!!!! Wag the wife!!!!!
http://www.hollyscoop.com/style/michelle-obama/michelle-obama-debuts-new-short-do_1440.aspx
bloggless on July 22, 2009 at 3:19 PM
I balanced the CA budget and had money left over for a case of nice cuban cigars.
lasertex on July 22, 2009 at 3:19 PM
Why do the Democrats want to release prisoners, is there an election coming up?
NoDonkey on July 22, 2009 at 3:20 PM
Release the potheads!
bagoh20 on July 22, 2009 at 3:21 PM
What is it with Michelle Obama and the pursed pissed off lips?
Sorry. OT.
ORconservative on July 22, 2009 at 3:21 PM
Actually, Michelle’s new do is really not suitable for her large lower jaw. She kinda looks like the “Quisp” guy. Google it.
bloggless on July 22, 2009 at 3:22 PM
You wonder why people are buying ammo and guns?
This “compromise” they worked out may not fly any…LA County is going to sue to keep its money, one of the big unions is going to strike, the fakery of accounting gimmicks is not fooling as many people this time so that there is broader expectation/understanding we are going to face another “crisis” within the next year…
The incompetence of the political class is beginning to show…and to think it all started with “affordable housing” and race-based lending…the libs blew it up and now they are baffled how to fix it and move their agenda (of course the two will never mix, but they don’t understand that).
Harry Schell on July 22, 2009 at 3:23 PM
ChewbacaDoo!
lasertex on July 22, 2009 at 3:23 PM
Of course – they’re Democrats. Lying is as natural to them as crapping where they eat.
Jaibones on July 22, 2009 at 3:26 PM
nanny state, falling hard. how’s that feel?
quick, more entitlements.
ted c on July 22, 2009 at 3:28 PM
FIFY.
Steve Z on July 22, 2009 at 3:28 PM
Hey, I know how you can save some money, Kalifornia. STOP PAYING FOR ILLEGAL ALIEN PARASITES!
HornetSting on July 22, 2009 at 3:28 PM
I have an idea for a compromise. The the Democrats have their prisoner release and the Republicans get all firearms restrictions repealed and on-demand concealed carry permits and a “castle doctrine” law. The prisoner release will sort itself out.
johnsteele on July 22, 2009 at 3:31 PM
As long as they OWN the reneging in the press, that’s fine by me. Nothing helps this country more than pointing out how bad liberals are for this country’s health.
Thunderstorm129 on July 22, 2009 at 3:31 PM
The Corrections union is probably as powerful as the teachers union. Reducing inmates, warranted or not means less growth for the membership. Less leverage in contract negotiations etc.
These guys make 100k per year (average non officer) including overtime. We are talking big business here.
FireBlogger on July 22, 2009 at 3:31 PM
This is the Democrats’ “take no prisoners” approach to politics.
Steve Z on July 22, 2009 at 3:32 PM
One of the best laws states have ever passed, in my opinion.
Thunderstorm129 on July 22, 2009 at 3:35 PM
Are they still spending money to protect the sea otters?
Kafir on July 22, 2009 at 3:38 PM
Maybe if they tried keeping them in prison, they wouldn’t have to spend as much on the police and courts rounding them back up again.
pedestrian on July 22, 2009 at 3:48 PM
Today in CA, the state retirement pension is usually 2/3rds the highest rate of pay you made for at least a year and to receive that you must have at least 20 years of service with the state.
Just out of curiosity I’d be interested in knowing how much different that is from other states.
Ernest on July 22, 2009 at 3:49 PM
In Louisiana, the state employee retirement system is as follows-
You can start drawing under the following circumstances:
1. 30 years service at any age
2. 25 years service at age 55(?)
3. 10 years service at age 60
Your percentage is based off the number of years you work, where 1 year = 2.5% of your retirement base.
Your retirement base = the average of your highest pay in a 36-month period
An average 30-year retirement would mean that someone pulls 75% of their salary for their retirement.
That’s only for people who were grandfathered in before a few years ago, though. The percentage you earn per year of service was lowered and the 36-month period (3 years) used for getting your retirement base was changed to a 60-month period (5 years).
teke184 on July 22, 2009 at 3:58 PM
I was in CA last week on business, we are shutting down our operations in CA, just too expensive to do business there, but anyway what I was struck by was the lack of freedom in that state.
Californians don’t realize it because it was a gradual erosion of freedoms turning them into a nanny state. There was rules for everything from what was on the menu to where folks could smoke, stand, walk and anything else you wanted to do. If you were to take a native Californian and plop him down in GA he would be have to be treated for some sort of PTSD.
The folks there don’t realize it, but after a week I was never so glad to be back home, and that is after having to serve a couple of tours overseas in some third world countries. They have traded their freedoms for a false sense of security and have wound up with neither. The good news is, if this shutdown proceeds on schedule I won’t have to go back and while I feel for the folks who will be losing their jobs hopefully some of them, if they are willing to relocate, will be able to transfer to another state.
California is getting exactly what they paid for.
Just A Grunt on July 22, 2009 at 4:04 PM
If the entire population of a prison is released among the residents of California, will anyone even notice?
cackcon on July 22, 2009 at 4:28 PM
Hopefully not, until nature runs its course.
BPD on July 22, 2009 at 4:29 PM
I think it depends where they’re released. If they’re dropped off in East LA, South Central, and around Imperial Courts, the problems may take care of themselves.
teke184 on July 22, 2009 at 4:35 PM
As opposed to the shell game of collecting income taxes from people in cities then turning around and giving some of it back?
Hollowpoint on July 22, 2009 at 4:36 PM
I can’t argue with you. I’ve lived here in SoCal eight years. It’s beautiful but the laws are intrusive for everyone except illegals. Funny how that is. They cost this state billions and billions of dollars but the elites love them for obvious reasons. Contractors love them for obvious reasons. Wal-Mart loves them for obvious reasons. But the lowly taxpayers pay the freight.
As soon as my wife retires, we’re outa here.
Ernest on July 22, 2009 at 4:37 PM
Released prisoners will filter back to the central cities and be no problem to regular Californians.
Jeff from WI on July 22, 2009 at 4:51 PM
Gigantic piles of money keep on pouring in to CA education – one of the worst, lowest scoring education systems in America – while we’re turning the crooks loose on the streets. The liberal government Californians love to give free rein continues to stick it to us. Will Californians ever learn? Probably not.
Django on July 22, 2009 at 5:00 PM
What they do is they pump up the overtime, your saved vacation counts towards your pay, it is not unusual to make 80% of your wages.
And 20 years is not the norm for full benefits, it is about 15 for school.
Some JC teachers are fully vested in 10 years, then they take on some extra classes for the last year…look at the scams, not what is “written”.
Police will put you “on call” where you receive extra duty pay, but don’t have to work.
Compared to other states…I think NY is number 1 for retirement, Mass is up there also.
right2bright on July 22, 2009 at 5:30 PM
We came from So. Cal to NC, never regretted it for a moment…everything So. Cal has NC has.
Would I educate my kids here? No, but my kids are finished with school, NC (unless the gov. goes berserk) is a great state.
right2bright on July 22, 2009 at 5:33 PM
Levying threats to obtain a specific outcome?? Isn’t that the M.O. for terrorists?
Ltlgeneral64 on July 22, 2009 at 5:41 PM
Let’s do this again…….
Cut Support for Illegal Immigrants including the Anchor Babies.
Renegotiate Union contracts to reduce future expenditures.
Erect Tent Cities in the California Deserts and house the Criminals to reduce costs.
Privatize the Public School Systems
Part-Time Legislature
BigMike252 on July 22, 2009 at 6:10 PM
Why does the heading on this thread say that the “Republicans” threaten to scuttle the deal. If the deal was in fact predicated on an agreement not to release prisoners, it strikes me that the Dems are the ones busting the deal.
Up-Chuck on July 22, 2009 at 6:14 PM
So, they want to release prisoners early, and even keep certain offenders out of jail, I have the solution. Caning!
EX: Bust a drug user or other non-violent scumbag type. No jail time, right after sentencing, give him a couple whacks with a cane, a tube of bacitracin and send him on his way. Oh, and charge him for the ointment as part of his court fees. If its codified and standardized its not cruel and unusual.
Its cheap, its effective, its punishment, and the perp doesn’t get a death sentence for a blunt because Big House Bubba gave him AIDS when he raped him in the shower.
Iblis on July 22, 2009 at 6:44 PM
There’s been soooo much obvious waste and Libtard pet projects reported on in California, but as usual, like in other states, it’s the most fundamental of government services that get nailed instead.
I do applaud the California Republicans on this.
However, I’m not convinced that nationwide we do ourselves a great service by locking up tons of people for really pretty petty offenses, thus tying up the police, courts and prisons making it easier for career and violent criminals to walk. Someone has drugs on them? Just take ‘em and let them go…that hurts them more than anything and they’ll probably walk or be out in a few years anyway-and they’ll just get someone else in the meantime.
To me a prison is where you send people that simply are too dangerous to allow into society, that is, keep them for life or until they are too old to do any damage.
Dr. ZhivBlago on July 22, 2009 at 6:59 PM
I live in California, and I can tell you that Schwarzenegger is the biggest muscle-headed, buffoon this state has ever seen – and that includes Gray Davis!
He has been an incredible failure as Governor in every respect. Another “Republican” Republicans should have never voted for!
Joe Pyne on July 22, 2009 at 7:11 PM
My state isn’t worth the TNT to blow it to hell but California is the cause of so much of our troubles. When is this “big one” that causes half the state to roll off into the ocean going to happen. It can’t happen too soon.
Jeff from WI on July 22, 2009 at 8:30 PM
Why does the heading on this thread say that the “Republicans” threaten to scuttle the deal. If the deal was in fact predicated on an agreement not to release prisoners, it strikes me that the Dems are the ones busting the deal.
Up-Chuck on July 22, 2009
It’s always the Republicans fault. Remember, bipartisanship exists only when Republicans surrender their principles.
SKYFOX on July 23, 2009 at 7:48 AM