Breaking: No vote on health care before August recess, says Durbin

posted at 6:37 pm on July 22, 2009 by Allahpundit

Big, big, big win, if true. Is it?

“We’re going to take a little longer to get it right,” Durbin told The Hill when asked about the oft-stated goal of a vote on or before Aug. 7, when a monthlong Senate recess begins. “Initially we had hoped for a full vote by then, but I don’t think it’s going to be possible.”

Delaying the vote until after Labor Day would all but erase hopes of getting a bill to President Obama by mid-October, since the House and Senate versions would have to be reconciled in conference negotiations — assuming they pass their chambers.

Durbin said the bill was still largely on track, however, denying that momentum has stalled.

“I don’t think so,” he said. “This is a complex challenge, and we’re taking a reasonable approach with it. It would be better if some Republicans joined us instead of just criticizing.”

Pelosi’s now claiming she has the votes to pass the House bill, but at least two prominent Blue Dogs dispute that. If what Stupak had to say about a pro-life no vote is true, then she could only have an extremely narrow majority — so narrow, in fact, that I wonder why she’d want to go public about it. Maybe this is her way of putting the screws to Durbin and the Senate Democrats, to get them to redouble their efforts on getting something passed. The last thing she and The One want is for Congress to go home, marinate for a month in his decaying poll numbers, and have their constituents put the fear of God into them about voting for another trillion-dollar boondoggle. If she has (or claims to have) the votes in the House now then the pressure falls squarely on Reid and company to save the program by ramming it through; combine that with the bounce for ObamaCare that tonight’s presser is bound to bring and I’m guessing this is all a big coordinated show to impress people like Snowe, Collins, and Ben Nelson.

Exit question: What if Durbin’s right?

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Since there are 3 versions of the bill in the House, which one is Pelosi claiming to have the votes to pass?

myrenovations on July 22, 2009 at 6:39 PM

Kill ObamaCare … Kill it!

darwin on July 22, 2009 at 6:39 PM

Oh no, this is going to piss someone off…

d1carter on July 22, 2009 at 6:39 PM

God I am so excited about this press conference.

Alex K on July 22, 2009 at 6:39 PM

Why announce such a thing while Pelosi is threatening from the other side that she can pass it whenever; makes no sense. The libs are being the lying, cheating scum they have always been.

Bishop on July 22, 2009 at 6:40 PM

keep up the fight. DOES NOT TRUST THE DEMORATS!….
Keeping one eye open for last minute, backroom deal.

hawkman on July 22, 2009 at 6:40 PM

What? No fraudulent Obamacare before college starts up?

Upstater85 on July 22, 2009 at 6:42 PM

I’m guessing this is all a big coordinated show to impress people like Snowe, Collins, and Ben Nelson.

That’s what this will all rest on. The squishes. Pelosi has too wide a margin in the House for nothing to get passed.

BadgerHawk on July 22, 2009 at 6:42 PM

Ooooh…right before the presser too!

That’s got to sting.

Obama will be in rare form tonight.

Thunderstorm129 on July 22, 2009 at 6:42 PM

KILL BILL!

HornetSting on July 22, 2009 at 6:43 PM

Kill ObamaCare … Kill it!

darwin on July 22, 2009 at 6:39 PM

Nuke it from space, it’s the only way to be sure.

portlandon on July 22, 2009 at 6:43 PM

Oh hell, I forgot about the presser. This is going to be Dyno MITE!

Note to self: Pace yourself on the Jager.

HornetSting on July 22, 2009 at 6:44 PM

This was getting posted earlier, but it’s important enough to toss back up in the comments. This bill is truly awful.

BadgerHawk on July 22, 2009 at 6:44 PM

Lindsay Graham has already indicated that he’ll vote “Yes” for whatever the traitorous dems come up with. He doesn’t want to be nasty and the dems can pass anything, anyway …

When told this was not Sotomayor, but the criminal health care bill, Graham said, “Oh … I’ll vote ‘Yes’ anyway, because I’m a nice guy and we can’t stop the dems. What’s the point of voting ‘No’?”

progressoverpeace on July 22, 2009 at 6:44 PM

Glory is fleeting, but obscurity is forever.
-Napoleon Bonaparte

Welcome to obscurity, Obama.

Rebar on July 22, 2009 at 6:44 PM

God bless you allah for posting the Abba video of “waterloo”.

You magnificent Bastard.

portlandon on July 22, 2009 at 6:44 PM

KILL BILL!

HornetSting on July 22, 2009 at 6:43 PM

Lol.

BadgerHawk on July 22, 2009 at 6:45 PM

Uhm, that guitar isn’t plugged in.

crosspatch on July 22, 2009 at 6:45 PM

keep up the fight. DOES NOT TRUST THE DEMORATS!….
Keeping one eye open for last minute, backroom deal.

hawkman on July 22, 2009 at 6:40 PM

BACKDOOR deal with the Gang Bang of Fourteen, perhaps? mccain and grahamesty are already assuming the position.

HornetSting on July 22, 2009 at 6:45 PM

Anybody else watch Neil Cavuto this afternoon? He talked to a black guy who confronted Senator Ben Cardin of Maryland – a hyperliberal if ever there was one – about the individual mandate and was applauded, by an audience that he said was largely stacked with SEIU thugs. This is a guy who obviously voted for Obama, but is not buying the bullshit the Democrats are spewing. There are MILLIONS like him. I know I am going to get in the face of my Congressman over the recess, and I’ve never done this before.

There is going to be some film eventually of a Congressman being mobbed and booed by angry voters – just like the film of Dan Rostenkowski in 1994 that led to the instant repeal of the Medicare “catastrophic insurance” program. People are PISSED.

rockmom on July 22, 2009 at 6:47 PM

I’m loving that cape :-)

cmsinaz on July 22, 2009 at 6:48 PM

Work on the pre-existing condition problem, making insurance portable, and plugging the holes of very basic care for the truly needy citizens. Do that all through the private marketplace. Anything more is insanity and fiscally back-breaking.

michaelo on July 22, 2009 at 6:48 PM

Yeah, I’m on board with the idea of sourpuss Nan putting the screws to the senate; Durbin probably wets himself everytime he has to face her.

anniekc on July 22, 2009 at 6:49 PM

Uhm, that guitar isn’t plugged in.

crosspatch on July 22, 2009 at 6:45 PM

There are times when thier lips are moving but there is no singing and vice versa.

myrenovations on July 22, 2009 at 6:50 PM

I could have gone my entire life without seeing that video…but you’re right, that cape is rockin!

HornetSting on July 22, 2009 at 6:50 PM

What a bloody, disorganized, mess the left is.

They have the votes in both chambers, yet they are unable to get the ball on their agenda rolling.

blatantblue on July 22, 2009 at 6:50 PM

Uhm, that guitar isn’t plugged in.

crosspatch on July 22, 2009 at 6:45 PM

That piano wasn’t plugged in….

BigWyo on July 22, 2009 at 6:50 PM

Where is Harry Reid? He has been to quiet lately.

portlandon on July 22, 2009 at 6:51 PM

Just when we think our side is on the ropes, and that we are struggling, we should look at these clowns and their extraordinary ability to throw all cards to the wind

blatantblue on July 22, 2009 at 6:51 PM

Uhm, that guitar isn’t plugged in.

crosspatch on July 22, 2009 at 6:45 PM

RF transmitter.

Lanceman on July 22, 2009 at 6:51 PM

Michigan Rep. Bart Stupak, who is trying to change the bill to make it clear it would not use taxpayer money for abortions, also disagreed with the Speaker.

It would be easier to fit a camel through the eye of a needle than to pass this bill,” said Stupak.

He wouldn’t be speaking about this camel now would he?

RepubChica on July 22, 2009 at 6:51 PM

Maybe this is her way of putting the screws to Durbin and the Senate Democrats, to get them to redouble their efforts on getting something passed.

How?

this is all a big coordinated show to impress people like Snowe, Collins, and Ben Nelson.

I don’t understand this either. Not saying you’re wrong I just don’t get it…

CCRWM on July 22, 2009 at 6:51 PM

Bonaparte defeat at the hands of Boehner…

right2bright on July 22, 2009 at 6:51 PM

Able was I ere I saw Elba.

Weight of Glory on July 22, 2009 at 6:51 PM

Just when we think our side is on the ropes, and that we are struggling, we should look at these clowns and their extraordinary ability to throw all cards to the wind

blatantblue on July 22, 2009 at 6:51 PM

Don’t worry. Lindsay Graham and the witches from Maine will save the Dems.

progressoverpeace on July 22, 2009 at 6:52 PM

Wouldn’t it be fun if a member of the press used Waterloo as thier ringtone and then had someone call them during the presser?

myrenovations on July 22, 2009 at 6:52 PM

you may get something out of the house like they did with cap and trade.

rob verdi on July 22, 2009 at 6:52 PM

If this is true and Pelosi is completely wrong in saying that she has the votes, that means Barry O is gonna be in a bad mood tonight. Like a kid who’s had his favorite toy broken. If so, expect this from him:

At least twenty times he’ll use the term “Let me be clear”

He’ll bring up his mother’s illness…because the only use he ever had for his white heritage is for political gain.

He’ll insist it’s the evil Republicans that are stopping him by wanting to “do nothing”

Obama has lived a carefully scripted life, never once having to deal with disappointment.

If he walks up there tonight knowing things aren’t going his way…he’s gonna be in a really pissy mood. Watch out for a whole lot of finger pointing, of glowering eyes, of Barry’s “serious” look.

And, of course, he’ll continue to lie straight out to the American people. Sadly, about half of this country believes him.

WhatDukeSaid on July 22, 2009 at 6:52 PM

myrenovations on July 22, 2009 at 6:52 PM

LOL

cmsinaz on July 22, 2009 at 6:52 PM

If true, isn’t that the part where the risk is?

Everybody better attend the taonw hall meetings in your district.

tarpon on July 22, 2009 at 6:52 PM

Don’t worry. Lindsay Graham and the witches from Maine will save the Dems.

progressoverpeace on July 22, 2009 at 6:52 PM

Good point :/

blatantblue on July 22, 2009 at 6:53 PM

Kill ObamaCare … Kill it!

darwin on July 22, 2009 at 6:39 PM

Racist.

/

Key West Reader on July 22, 2009 at 6:53 PM

Allah, love the plug for my fellow Scandinavians – ABBA

Waterloo – Winner of the 1974 Eurovision Song Contest, if anyone cares…hehe

Norwegian on July 22, 2009 at 6:53 PM

C’mon that is not the real Waterloo song…
Waterloo, Waterloo, where will you meet your Waterloo…

right2bright on July 22, 2009 at 6:53 PM

This was getting posted earlier, but it’s important enough to toss back up in the comments. This bill is truly awful.

BadgerHawk on July 22, 2009 at 6:44 PM

OMG! …people buy more guns and ammo!

CCRWM on July 22, 2009 at 6:53 PM

God I miss George W.

Lanceman on July 22, 2009 at 6:54 PM

Just when we think our side is on the ropes, and that we are struggling, we should look at these clowns and their extraordinary ability to throw all cards to the wind

blatantblue on July 22, 2009 at 6:51 PM

GOP commercial circa 2010:

“…cuz they couldn’t even pass the stuff they wanted to…”

Upstater85 on July 22, 2009 at 6:55 PM

Durbin said the bill was still largely on track, however, denying that momentum has stalled.
Exit question: What if Durbin’s right?

Have we ever known him to be wrong about anything?

whitetop on July 22, 2009 at 6:56 PM

Keep on fighting this! I don’t trust any of them. Don’t believe we’ve won. They’ve got their MoveOn.org. and other internet groups out there trying to fight us. Keep those phone calls and emails flying. This is a battle and we’ve got to win the war! It won’t be over until the votes are counted and the result is NO!

Hobbes on July 22, 2009 at 6:56 PM

“…cuz they couldn’t even pass the stuff they wanted to…”

Upstater85 on July 22, 2009 at 6:55 PM

Oh, totally, bro.

The far left must be buying Preparation H by the caseload, with all the irritation they are experiencing with their people in control, not being able to get a single far lefty wet-dream passed.

blatantblue on July 22, 2009 at 6:56 PM

Allah, love the plug for my fellow Scandinavians – ABBA

Waterloo – Winner of the 1974 Eurovision Song Contest, if anyone cares…hehe

Norwegian on July 22, 2009 at 6:53 PM

ABBA… The best skating rink band in the USA in the 70′s and I mean that as a compliment. Just listening, I see myself racing around the rink and throwing my hands in the air that Obama is going down. Down. Down.

Key West Reader on July 22, 2009 at 6:57 PM

Where is Harry Reid? He has been to quiet lately.

portlandon on July 22, 2009 at 6:51 PM

Trying to save his job by shutting up?

Thunderstorm129 on July 22, 2009 at 6:58 PM

Palin should weigh in on this tomorrow morning. It would instantly divert all media assets to her. Whatever Obama says will fade into the distance.

darwin on July 22, 2009 at 6:59 PM

Where is Harry Reid? He has been to quiet lately.

portlandon on July 22, 2009 at 6:51 PM

Oh
He’s been busy with the other Keebler Elves, getting ready for the holiday season

blatantblue on July 22, 2009 at 6:59 PM

combine that with the bounce for ObamaCare that tonight’s presser is bound to bring

The MSM may try to spin a bounce but I don’t think there’ll be a bounce. Bambi has been on all channels for the last week pushing this plan. Any bounce due to his pushing the plan has already been factored in. There’s nothing new he can say to convince anyone but there’s a lot of ways he can screw things up tonight. Moreover I don’t think that many people are going to be watching. I think Obama-fatigued is really starting to kick in.

PackerBronco on July 22, 2009 at 7:00 PM

Word is spreading thru email, phone and word of mouth that seniors are expendable in ObamaCare. They are mad, frightened, and ready to kick ass.

darwin on July 22, 2009 at 7:00 PM

Lanceman:

Same here.

Terrye on July 22, 2009 at 7:00 PM

Oh, totally, bro.

The far left must be buying Preparation H by the caseload, with all the irritation they are experiencing with their people in control, not being able to get a single far lefty wet-dream passed.

blatantblue on July 22, 2009 at 6:56 PM

At least they can sleep at night knowing the adults are in charge…

Upstater85 on July 22, 2009 at 7:00 PM

Waterloo, Bless Demint, a little less than an hour and he’ll be smokin.

fourdeucer on July 22, 2009 at 7:01 PM

We can’t ever let up. The Liberals never ever stop… ever!

CCRWM on July 22, 2009 at 7:01 PM

Key West Reader on July 22, 2009 at 6:57 PM

if you’re talking rinks, you gotta add MJ’s ‘Off the Wall’ album

cmsinaz on July 22, 2009 at 7:01 PM

If she has (or claims to have) the votes in the House now then the pressure falls squarely on Reid and company to save the program by ramming it through; combine that with the bounce for ObamaCare that tonight’s presser is bound to bring and I’m guessing this is all a big coordinated show to impress people like Snowe, Collins, and Ben Nelson.

Allah, are you really sure there will be a bounce? I am beginning to wonder if Obama’s bounce has sort of petered out.

Terrye on July 22, 2009 at 7:02 PM

Where is Harry Reid? He has been to quiet lately.
portlandon on July 22, 2009 at 6:51 PM

Busy with his yearly embalming-fluid change.

Bishop on July 22, 2009 at 7:03 PM

Palin should weigh in on this tomorrow morning. It would instantly divert all media assets to her. Whatever Obama says will fade into the distance.

darwin on July 22, 2009 at 6:59 PM

Google “Cap & Tax”, which Palin coined the Cap & Trade bill, and you get 33,000 hits.

She had the best Republican response to that bill, and will to Obamacare as well.

In related news, Romney just punted by saying all Obama needed to was to “slow down”.

Norwegian on July 22, 2009 at 7:04 PM

Where is Harry Reid? He has been to quiet lately.

portlandon on July 22, 2009 at 6:51 PM

Working on voices overs for Droopy dog?

Thunderstorm129 on July 22, 2009 at 7:04 PM

The last thing she and The One want is for Congress to go home, marinate for a month in his decaying poll numbers, and have their constituents put the fear of God into them about voting for another trillion-dollar boondoggle.

Allah – Answer me one question, name the bills the Republicans have blocked since this Marxist took office? None? Correct, they don’t have the votes to block. Now, how many have the Republicans fought, I mean really fought? None? Correct again amigo.

Obama and his fellow Marxists have the media, urban public opinion, the academic establishment, and the unions in their hip pockets. They know it, and the Republicans know it, but will they fight? Yeah, look at the battle they put up with Sotomayor, yawn.

Until someone actually stands up, and doesn’t care if they get hammered in the media, or that they could risk losing in the next election, and begins to fight hard for America, and what she stands for, nothing can stop him!

And I have seen no hands being raised to be that person.

Joe Pyne on July 22, 2009 at 7:04 PM

At least they can sleep at night knowing the adults are in charge…

Upstater85 on July 22, 2009 at 7:00 PM

That they are, man

MM
Sweet dreams for me!

blatantblue on July 22, 2009 at 7:04 PM

Awesome mullet.

Ted Torgerson on July 22, 2009 at 7:05 PM

voice

damn Ugandan keyboard!

Thunderstorm129 on July 22, 2009 at 7:05 PM

Busy with his yearly embalming-fluid change.

Bishop on July 22, 2009 at 7:03 PM

lol
laughing out loud~
hahahaha

blatantblue on July 22, 2009 at 7:05 PM

But will Obamacare assure “domestic tranquility”?

onlineanalyst on July 22, 2009 at 7:06 PM

I didn’t know Clark Kent was in a band

eucher on July 22, 2009 at 7:06 PM

In related news, Romney just punted by saying all Obama needed to was to “slow down”.

Norwegian on July 22, 2009 at 7:04 PM

Romney needs to lie low right now. A debate over health care doesn’t really suit him too well.

Besides, SLOW DOWN needs to be the overall message coming across. It keeps the Republicans from sounding obstructionist. Point out that the bill doesn’t go into effect until 2013, so what’s the rush?

It makes people skeptical, which is good.

BadgerHawk on July 22, 2009 at 7:07 PM

Can You Hear The Drums, Fernando Obama?

SouthernGent on July 22, 2009 at 7:07 PM

In related news, Romney just punted by saying all Obama needed to was to “slow down”.
Norwegian on July 22, 2009 at 7:04 PM

Just setting himself up for a potential 2012 concession speech.

Bishop on July 22, 2009 at 7:07 PM

Well, Little Dick Durbin blew his wad….is obama going to stand up there and perform finger puppets?

HornetSting on July 22, 2009 at 7:08 PM

When I was 12, at ABBA’s zenith, I had a terrible crush on Agnetha Fältskog. I fantasized she was married to me instead of Bjorn. Why did you bring back such sad memories, AP? Why?

Heart-ache.

keep the change on July 22, 2009 at 7:08 PM

Dang! It really can’t believe Dems are have difficulty passing legislation with such a majority. I honestly thought with such a huge majorities that have universal health care would be a given. This is crazy!

terryannonline on July 22, 2009 at 7:08 PM

I think the president ought to hit the reset button. I think it is critical that he have the participation, involvement, and support of people on both sides of the aisle, as well as people in various sectors of the health economy. If we are going to have a dramatic shift in the nature of so large a part of our economy, then it needs to be something that has been thoroughly vetted and has received great support

I can’t believe Romney is in support of handing 1\5th of our economy to the government. He will never get elected president…

CCRWM on July 22, 2009 at 7:09 PM

Allah, are you really sure there will be a bounce? I am beginning to wonder if Obama’s bounce has sort of petered out.

Terrye on July 22, 2009 at 7:02 PM

If duh One doesn’t get a bounce, the libs will be ready for the rubber room, where they can bounce to the heart’s content.

ICBM on July 22, 2009 at 7:10 PM

Just when we think our side is on the ropes, and that we are struggling, we should look at these clowns and their extraordinary ability to throw all cards to the wind

blatantblue on July 22, 2009 at 6:51 PM

Yep. Democrats never miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity.

JAM on July 22, 2009 at 7:10 PM

Can You Hear The Drums, Fernando Obama?

SouthernGent on July 22, 2009 at 7:07 PM

I want to be a pygmy head hunter, me first me first!

HornetSting on July 22, 2009 at 7:10 PM

In related news, Romney just punted by saying all Obama needed to was to “slow down”.
Norwegian on July 22, 2009 at 7:04 PM

Meanwhile Palin signed a bill declaring Alaska’s sovereignty under the Tenth Amendment to the Constitution.

Romney: “Slow down”.
Palin: “FU Obama”.

Who’s answer do you like better?

Rebar on July 22, 2009 at 7:12 PM

So will the unions get to keep their healthcare plans? Not sure how good it is but the rank and file might not want anything to change.

cadams on July 22, 2009 at 7:12 PM

This is crazy!

terryannonline on July 22, 2009 at 7:08 PM

I can only Cap & Trade and ObamaCare are now causing people to do the reading and research they should have done before the election. The more they look, the more they’ll find, the more they find … the better chance we have in 2010.

darwin on July 22, 2009 at 7:12 PM

Romney: “Slow down”.
Palin: “FU Obama”.

Who’s answer do you like better?

Rebar on July 22, 2009 at 7:12 PM

All I know is … Palin rocks.

darwin on July 22, 2009 at 7:12 PM

Bonaparte defeat at the hands of Boehner…

right2bright on July 22, 2009 at 6:51 PM

Gebhard Leberecht von Böhner, Fürst von Middletown!

forest on July 22, 2009 at 7:13 PM

Where’s the “hitler bunker” video?

the_nile on July 22, 2009 at 7:13 PM

Romney: “Slow down”.
Palin: “FU Obama”.

Who’s answer do you like better?

Rebar on July 22, 2009 at 7:12 PM

FU, Obama! Woot!

SouthernGent on July 22, 2009 at 7:13 PM

Yep. Democrats never miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity.

JAM on July 22, 2009 at 7:10 PM

Yep
shot themselves in the foot
hey
like this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_91jcFTbLE8

blatantblue on July 22, 2009 at 7:13 PM

Durbin, it would be better if the Democrats paid attention to some of the ideas/amendments put forth by the Republicsns and stopped this crushing debt. Bobby Jindal has some ideas in today’s WSJ, too, that offer more in the way of reform and less in the way of government takeover of a huge sector in the economy.

Dems can squeal all they want about the Republicans being the party of NO. As far as I am concerned, Obamao and his party of Reid/Pelosi/Kennedy/Dodd/Frank/Durbin etal are the party of BLOW.

onlineanalyst on July 22, 2009 at 7:13 PM

I can only Cap & Trade and ObamaCare are now causing people to do the reading and research they should have done before the election. The more they look, the more they’ll find, the more they find … the better chance we have in 2010.

darwin on July 22, 2009 at 7:12 PM

It really shows how spineless they are. If they really believe in ObamaCare and Cap and Trade then they should pass it but they crippled by opinion polls. Pathetic.

terryannonline on July 22, 2009 at 7:14 PM

A

nd I have seen no hands being raised to be that person.

Joe Pyne on July 22, 2009 at 7:04 PM

Palin does!

CCRWM on July 22, 2009 at 7:14 PM

In related news, Romney just punted by saying all Obama needed to was to “slow down”.
Norwegian on July 22, 2009 at 7:04 PM

Romney means P*ssy in Austrian.

HornetSting on July 22, 2009 at 7:14 PM

Wouldn’t it be fun if a member of the press used Waterloo as thier ringtone and then had someone call them during the presser?

myrenovations on July 22, 2009 at 6:52 PM

Can’t read anything further, because I can’t breeeeath. Laughing so hard

txmomof6 on July 22, 2009 at 7:14 PM

Oh yeah, he’ll get a bounce; It’ll be a completely artificial bounce, but he’ll get one. We’ll have to disect the numbers- “Lets poll 75% dems in order to achieve our truth” (says CBS, USA Today, CNN, etc. etc.)

anniekc on July 22, 2009 at 7:14 PM

Where’s the “hitler bunker” video?

the_nile on July 22, 2009 at 7:13 PM

Watching the Obama White House these days reminds me of the movie Der Untergang (Downfall). Can’t explain why.

Norwegian on July 22, 2009 at 7:15 PM

In related news, Romney just punted by saying all Obama needed to was to “slow down”.
Norwegian on July 22, 2009 at 7:04 PM

Did you also read in the Newsweak article that the first person Willard went to to get his Romneycare written was…wait for it….wait for it…..Ted Kennedy?

portlandon on July 22, 2009 at 7:15 PM

MORE CAPES!

Cuffy Meigs on July 22, 2009 at 7:16 PM

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