Video: Chris Matthews takes on the Birthers. What could go wrong?

posted at 7:31 pm on July 21, 2009 by Allahpundit

Slowly but surely, this meme is going mainstream: Lou Dobbs picked it up (credulously) in his radio show this morning, Rick Sanchez goofed on it this afternoon, even Rush is starting to talk about it — foolishly, really, given how it distracts from the momentum conservatives are building against ObamaCare. Lost in all the blather is the shining fact that the natural-born requirement is probably the single dumbest operative provision in the Constitution and in a sane world would have been abolished decades ago in favor of some sort of residency requirement. Something to shoot for after The One leaves office, perhaps? Shouldn’t be a partisan issue: Once it’s repealed, we can finally run the conservative we all want for president.

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Thank you Jim for solving a big mystery for many of us who’ve been asking the question (since the primaries) not only about Obama, but McCain and Roger Calero, the Nicaraguan illegal criminal, who got past the Secretaries of State AND ON THE BALLOT in over 30 states, Bobby Jindal and whomever runs in 2012. Allah doesn’t like that part of the Constitution. Now can you flush out Ed’s & Michelle’s reasoning?
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THIS PROUD “birther” will retreat to the Mothership now to work on getting to the bottom of which Dick (York or Sargent) made a better Darin on “Bewitched”.

NightmareOnKStreet on July 21, 2009 at 11:02 PM

Oh my God, Dick York, obviously. There’s not even a debate about that one.

(Me? I’m just waiting for Joe Biden to produce a certificate to prove he was born on Earth.)

jon1979 on July 21, 2009 at 11:23 PM

Wait until AprilO’s 5:02PM post shows up- edited out of context & with a link to HotAir on HuffingSomePaint or other lefty blogs. If HotAir wants to maintain its reputation for a “clean” site, it has some housekeeping to do.

NightmareOnKStreet on July 21, 2009 at 11:20 PM

It is too late. We have already screen copied it and the traitorous website called Hotair will be shut down within the week.

DasObamaReich on July 21, 2009 at 11:24 PM

Then produce the obligatory mom and baby pic from the hospital bed. Pretty sure we could detect if the hospital was in Kenya or Hawaii from the photograph.

journeyintothewhirlwind on July 21, 2009 at 11:25 PM

Then produce the obligatory mom and baby pic from the hospital bed. Pretty sure we could detect if the hospital was in Kenya or Hawaii from the photograph.

journeyintothewhirlwind on July 21, 2009 at 11:25 PM

If you and other malcontents keep up your traitorous questing of our Beloved Master then you will be trying to detect were in the world you are from the inside of your very small windowless cells.

DasObamaReich on July 21, 2009 at 11:28 PM

Then produce the obligatory mom and baby pic from the hospital bed. Pretty sure we could detect if the hospital was in Kenya or Hawaii from the photograph.

journeyintothewhirlwind on July 21, 2009 at 11:25 PM

There is a verified birth announcement from the Hawaiian newspaper.

But these people won’t accept that, remember this is the fire melts steel crowd.

AprilOrit on July 21, 2009 at 11:30 PM

I, NightmareOnKStreet, do solemnly swear… I JOINED HA IN 2006… by TRAVELING IN MY TIME MACHINE…
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I think you SWALLOWED The Red Pill right before your RACIST RANT AT 5:02PM that is going to get you “gone” from this house.
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*whispering* I see AprilOrit (HotAir)dead people.
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*counting the silverwear* Buh-bye AO.

NightmareOnKStreet on July 21, 2009 at 7:48 PM

Interesting – pointing out racists is suddenly a racist rant.

So much for free speech, Red Pill.

Hey Red – where were Huckabee’s parents born? Are they naturalized Americans, I rememer he was your candidate.

AprilOrit on July 21, 2009 at 8:15 PM

.

To answer your latest theory, I can’t stomach Huckabee. Now, go take your Red Pill. The little bus will be back for you shortly. YOU. NEED. TO. GO.

NightmareOnKStreet on July 21, 2009 at 11:31 PM

There is a verified birth announcement from the Hawaiian newspaper.

But these people won’t accept that, remember this is the fire melts steel crowd.

AprilOrit on July 21, 2009 at 11:30 PM

fire don’t melt steel heat and pressure makes it malleable…..

Ogabe not letting me see just where he was born, how he got into and did in school, and such that is just a fascinating series of actions from a guy who ran as “Captain Transparency”….

sven10077 on July 21, 2009 at 11:32 PM

It’s all a big misunderstanding.

When Obambi said he was going to be “transparent,” he was actually making reference to the term that was so popular during the campaign, i.e., “empty suit.” Kind of like that scene in “The Invisible Man” where he puts on a suit and freaks people out.

PD Quig on July 21, 2009 at 11:49 PM

Chris Matthews takes on the Birthers. What could go wrong?

What went wrong for me is that I found myself agreeing with Chris Matthews for the first time in a long time.

thuja on July 21, 2009 at 11:52 PM

There is a verified birth announcement from the Hawaiian newspaper.

But these people won’t accept that, remember this is the fire melts steel crowd.

AprilOrit on July 21, 2009 at 11:30 PM

I think this a bogus line of attack on the filthy liar in the White House but I would point out to you that a birth announcement in the newspaper is not proof one way or the other. Embarrassed parents/grandparents make these announcements all the time and skew the reality of the birth.

highhopes on July 21, 2009 at 11:56 PM

AprilOrit on July 21, 2009 at 11:30 PM

LOL,..

From the August 13,1961 Newspaper.

Mr, Mrs Barack H Obama
6085 Kalanianaole, Hwy.,
son, Aug 4

What the hell kind of “birth announcement” is this?

This is more like a family member putting the information in the local newspaper.

http://whatreallyhappened.com/IMAGES/obama-1961-birth-announcement-from-honolulu-advertiser0000.gif

christene on July 22, 2009 at 12:03 AM

There is a verified birth announcement from the Hawaiian newspaper.
But these people won’t accept that, remember this is the fire melts steel crowd.
AprilOrit on July 21, 2009 at 11:30 PM

I’m waiting for more evidence, but this is no evidence. The papers get the birth information from parents.

Ed Laskie on July 22, 2009 at 12:05 AM

Pakistan circa 1981: martial law.
Putting Pressure on Zia
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A grueling skyjacking climaxes opposition to his martial law

“Be prepared to pick up the bodies,” said the chilling voice. “If my demands are not met by the ultimatum, I will shoot the Americans.” That threat, spoken in accented English over the Damascus airport radio one day last week, was the worst moment of one of the longest-running hijackings ever, a thirteen-day nightmare for more than 100 people aboard a Pakistan International Airlines Boeing 720. Hijacked during a domestic flight, the plane had been forced to fly first to Kabul, Afghanistan, then on to Damascus, Syria.

The hijackers, three heavily armed Pakistanis, picked out three American passengers on board and labeled them “CIA agents.”* They threatened to shoot them first, then blow up the plane, if the Pakistani government did not release 55 political activists from prison. Their threat was all the more credible because they had already shot a Pakistani diplomat aboard the plane and dumped his body on the Kabul airport runway.
Just before the 6 p.m. Thursday deadline for the executions, Pakistani ofiicials negotiating with the hijackers announced that their government had agreed to release the prisoners. The capitulation defused the crisis-almost. At week’s end, radical Libya, which had originally agreed to receive the Pakistani prisoners, suddenly balked. The detainees, who had flown first to Aleppo, Syria, went on to Athens, then headed back to Damascus, where the hijacked plane and the hostages remained. Finally the Syrians, who acted as mediators in the hijacking, agreed to receive the Pakistanis themselves. The hijackers found that acceptable and ended the grim drama by surrendering to Damascus authorities.

The three Pakistani terrorists, who left the airplane shouting “Long live Bhuttoism!” claimed to belong to a group called Al Zulfikar, presumably named after Former President Zulfikar Ah Bhutto, founder of the opposition Pakistan People’s Party (P.P.P.), who was jailed and executed by President Mohammed Zia ul-Haq in 1979. The Pakistani government reacted last week with arrests of some 200 political opponents, including Bhutto’s widow Nusrat and his daughter Benazir.

The hijacking climaxed nearly a month of mounting unrest in Pakistan, the most serious wave of opposition that General Zia’s martial-law regime has faced since it came to power in a military takeover in 1977. The ferment began with a secret meeting in Lahore of representatives of seven opposition parties. With all political activity outlawed for the past 18 months, some politicians had to circumvent travel bans, while others sent surrogates.

The parties set aside their numerous differences and issued a call for an end to martial law and for elections within three months. “We demand that Zia quit immediately,” they declared, “failing which [the military rulers] will be removed by the irresistible will of the people.” They then announced the formation of the Movement for the Restoration of Democracy (M.R.D.), aiming to galvanize the population into strikes, demonstrations and civil disobedience.

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Why would a Obama go there?? It’s under martial law and Americans were being targeted.

journeyintothewhirlwind on July 22, 2009 at 12:16 AM

“Lost in all the blather is the shining fact that the natural-born requirement is probably the single dumbest operative provision in the Constitution and in a sane world would have been abolished decades ago in favor of some sort of residency requirement.”

Allahpundit,
Saying or writing that something is dumb without providing any good reasons (and NO, by you saying “Once it’s repealed, we can finally run the conservative we all want for president” even if it means getting someone like Daniel Hannan because we could also get a personality like Adolf Hitler, Joseph Stalin or someone even worse. Hell Allah, Britain for that matter still doesn’t even have a written constitution of their own. That lock on the door you suggest we [repeal] remove is a door that could swing both ways couldn’t it? Why do you want to piss on U.S. Constitution? I’ll stick with wisdom of our forefathers thankyou very much.) is to support your assertion of a disgraceful conjecture throughout [e.g., the ultimate paper tiger]. This would be sold to the public under the veil of ignorance of which would be dangerous in the long run but it is plainly just a demonstration of weakness of the mind to even suggest such an amendment to our constitution.

Emmerich de Vattel’s The Law of Nations was key in framing the United States as the world’s first constitutional republic. The myth that the founding of American Republic was based on the philosophy of John Locke {age of enlightenment} could only have been maintained, because the history of Leibniz’s influence was suppressed. The American Revolution was, in fact, a battle against the philosophy of Locke and the English utilitarians. Key to this struggle, was the work of the Eighteenth-century jurist, Emmerich de Vattel, whose widely read text, The Law of Nations, guided the framing of the United States as the world’s first constitutional republic. Vattel had challenged the most basic axioms of the Venetian party, which had taken over England before the time of the American Revolution, and it was from Vattel’s The Law of Nations, more than anywhere else, that America’s founders learned the Leibnizian natural law, which became the basis for the American System. This was the source of materials that enabled our forefathers to conclude the following…….

No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.

In conclusion, If you think that you have the forward thinking brain power and wisdom of Alexander Hamilton, John Adams, Benjamin Franklin, John Jay, John Marshall, James Madison & Thomas Jefferson, then you really need to get out more.

Americannodash on July 22, 2009 at 12:22 AM

This is not going away, it is a basic, constitutional issue. The courts will have to decide, even long after Barry Soretoro, what laws and foreign treaties will be nullified? Oh my I’m just a BarFfer oops.. Birther… no STRICT CONSTITUTIONALIST…I mean really , some us study Adams, John Jay, even the Federalist Papers…and their dreams live forever and their dreams will nerver be realized, because man is imperfect…unfortunately my son will be studing this Soretoro CREEP, EVEN BEFORE HE’S HISTORY. But maybe that’s a good thing.

jollybird on July 22, 2009 at 12:27 AM

If I was in any doubt that Chris Matthews was a pompous moron and a complete failure as a journalist, I just lost them.

Rightwingguy on July 22, 2009 at 12:45 AM

Oh and he definitely brings up a valid point: the vile Republicans stabbed FDR in the back so he couldn’t seek another term. The same FDR who died in office, Chris? That one?

Rightwingguy on July 22, 2009 at 12:46 AM

I don’t get it. Why are we, the American public, NOT entitled to know about the man who is our President? Did we know about G W Bush and John eFFing Kerry? Can we not find someone who knew this guy during all his years in college? Why can’t he just be nice to us and say “Here are my transcrpits and birth data”? Does he owe us a little bit of transparency? If your boss asked for your records from college and your long form BC, would you give it to him? We are his boss!

inspectorudy on July 22, 2009 at 12:50 AM

Let’s tell the truth here. When someone says “I want my country back”, what they are saying is their America would never elect a black President.

This whole birther thing is about race, nothing more, nothing less.

AprilOrit on July 22, 2009 at 12:51 AM

AprilOrit on July 22, 2009 at 12:51 AM

Yes…and by “yes” I mean “no”.

Rightwingguy on July 22, 2009 at 1:00 AM

Let’s tell the truth here. When someone says “I want my country back”, what they are saying is their America would never elect a black President.

This whole birther thing is about race, nothing more, nothing less.

AprilOrit on July 22, 2009 at 12:51 AM

You are crazy as well as filled with hate. Seek professional help.

Luka on July 22, 2009 at 1:02 AM

Let’s tell the truth here. When someone says “I want my country back”, what they are saying is their America would never elect a black President.

This whole birther thing is about race, nothing more, nothing less.

AprilOrit on July 22, 2009 at 12:51 AM

Is that straight up?

Americannodash on July 22, 2009 at 1:03 AM

AprilOrit on July 22, 2009 at 12:51 AM

Asking for evidence of Constitutional eligibility is racist.

Jim Treacher on July 22, 2009 at 1:05 AM

our CONGRESS is LIABLE, follow the MONEY, God just typing this crap makes me SIC

jollybird on July 22, 2009 at 1:06 AM

AprilOrit

It is not racist, it is our Constitution.
but i guess ya think that might be racist.

jollybird on July 22, 2009 at 1:19 AM

the natural-born requirement is probably the single dumbest operative provision in the Constitution

Hey Allah, I don’t appreciate you bashing the most beneficial document in the history of the world like that.

We need to honor it and be thankful for it.

scotash on July 22, 2009 at 1:23 AM

Let’s tell the truth here. When someone says “I want my country back”, what they are saying is their America would never elect a black President.

This whole birther thing is about race, nothing more, nothing less.

AprilOrit on July 22, 2009 at 12:51 AM

I think you may be right.

beekiller on July 22, 2009 at 1:24 AM

What went wrong for me is that I found myself agreeing with Chris Matthews for the first time in a long time.

thuja on July 21, 2009 at 11:52 PM

Yes, me too. However, what gets me is that Matthews and Olbermann and MSNBC and CNN are going to keep playing up a few morons and try to make them representative of all Conservatives.

This is a gift to Obama and the administration. Conservatives were building momentum on healthcare and now they are using this to change the subject. It’s a blatant distraction technique.

JohnInCA on July 22, 2009 at 1:25 AM

ALL IS HOPELESS ANYWAY, ARTICLE 3, section 3:

“Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, OR IN ADHERING TO THEIR ENEMIES, GIVING THEM…………AID AND COMFORT. No person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open court.”

JANE FONDA TOOK CARE OF THAT….. and a few others…who could prosecute or hang… for treason , a pot head, poor little rich girl

NOBODY CARES ANYMORE1 THAT’S BEA BEA DA DA THAT’S ALL FOLKS

jollybird on July 22, 2009 at 1:33 AM

Conservatives were building momentum on healthcare and now they are using this to change the subject. It’s a blatant distraction technique.

JohnInCA on July 22, 2009 at 1:25 AM

It’s the same subject.

Jim Treacher on July 22, 2009 at 1:33 AM

AprilOrit

It is not racist, it is our Constitution.
but i guess ya think that might be racist.

jollybird on July 22, 2009 at 1:19 AM

Natural Born Citizen is not defined in our Constitution. These birther loons have taken it upon themselves to define it as they see fit – so it works well in their silly scenario.

Based on their definition – Bobby Jindal is disqualified from ever running. So is Michelle Malkin, so is Mitt Romney and Sean Hannity.

So you guys better be careful what you wish for and should stop enabling these loons.

The birth certificate has been authenticated beyond a reasonable – let me say that again – reasonable – doubt.

These idiots are not reasonable and are hurting the GOP.

AprilOrit on July 22, 2009 at 1:35 AM

Good Lt at 8:25

I don’t have time to go over all this now and I imagine this has already been stated, but I can’t go to bed until I make sure it is stated:

What Obama produced was a computer image of what he says is a COLB from Hawaii. A computer image is NEVER good enough to be legal documentation for ANYTHING. Anyone who says Obama has presented a legal document is flat-out wrong. Period. End of story.

Since Obama claims this is his real thing, how about instead of him showing it to his friends at Factcheck for 17 minutes and then hiding it away, he show that 3D legal document to a judge or a secretary of state? He shouldn’t have any problem with that, should he?

He’ll never do it though, because what he posted is a forgery. The only reason he’s not sitting in jail right now is because it is a computer image which can’t even legally be considered and ATTEMPT at documenting anything. If he showed a SOS what he showed Factcheck I guarantee he would be in handcuffs in minutes.

If you do nothing else, at least read and especially listen to the video at
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=104599

justincase on July 22, 2009 at 1:35 AM

Conservatives were building momentum on healthcare and now they are using this to change the subject. It’s a blatant distraction technique.

JohnInCA on July 22, 2009 at 1:25 AM

You betcha, it’s a diversion and these idiots are too GD stupid to see what they are doing.

It’s almost like Philip berg has crafted this whoile thing. This is his pay-back to the GOP for Bush vs Gore in 2000.

AprilOrit on July 22, 2009 at 1:37 AM

The birth certificate has been authenticated beyond a reasonable – let me say that again – reasonable – doubt.

AprilOrit on July 22, 2009 at 1:35 AM

You can say it as many times as you like. It still doesn’t mean that a document nobody has seen has been “authenticated.”

Jim Treacher on July 22, 2009 at 1:37 AM

justincase on July 22, 2009 at 1:35 AM

OMG are you seriously asking us to listen to some loon video posted on Wingnut Daily???? ROTFLMAO big-time.

The Secretary of Health and Human Services from the State of Hawaii has verified and authenticated it.

Stop.

AprilOrit on July 22, 2009 at 1:40 AM

AprilOrit, you’re spouting such a bag of bullsh!t it’s not even funny.

It is…. (stop, wait for it)…. ILLEGAL…. for anybody in Hawaii to say squat about Obama’s documents. They are confidential. They can only be released by Obama. He’s not releasing it. That’s the whole point. Get it?

Before you say one more word, tell everyone here whether or not you have seen the video about a few of the signs of forgery in the document, which is posted at

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=104599

If you haven’t, then you are simply too ignorant to even speak coherently on the subject. To show your basic reading/listening comprehension skills, list the 4 pieces of evidence Dr Ron Polarik describes on the video which show the online images are forgeries. You can’t do complex analysis if you can’t even do basic factual recall. Bloom’s taxonomy.

justincase on July 22, 2009 at 1:42 AM

RULE 12: Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it.” Cut off the support network and isolate the target from sympathy. Go after people and not institutions; people hurt faster than institutions.

coldwarrior on July 22, 2009 at 1:43 AM

The court will have to define “Article 2, paragraph FIVE”
My son , age 15 has a copy of his CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS.

IT REALLY IS NOT THAT COMPLICATED

jollybird on July 22, 2009 at 1:44 AM

You can say it as many times as you like. It still doesn’t mean that a document nobody has seen has been “authenticated.”

Jim Treacher on July 22, 2009 at 1:37 AM

Actually – she is the Director of Communications – Hawaii Dept of Health:

“It’s crazy,” said Janice Okubo, director of communications for the Hawaii Department of Health. “I don’t think anything is ever going to satisfy them.”

Okubo, who said that she gets weekly questions from Obama ‘Birthers’ that are “more like threats,” explained that the certificate of live birth reproduced by Obama’s campaign should have debunked the conspiracy theories. “If you were born in Bali, for example,” Okubo explained, “you could get a certificate from the state of Hawaii saying you were born in Bali. You could not get a certificate saying you were born in Honolulu. The state has to verify a fact like that for it to appear on the certificate. But it’s become very clear that it doesn’t matter what I say. The people who are questioning this bring up all these implausible scenarios. What if the physician lied? What if the state lied? It’s just become an urban legend at this point.”

These people cannot handle this man – half black – in that white house – PERIOD.

AprilOrit on July 22, 2009 at 1:44 AM

AprilOrit: blahblahblahblahblah I’M NOT GOING TO LOOK AT THE EVIDENCE AND YOU CAN’T MAKE ME blahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblabhalbh

justincase on July 22, 2009 at 1:44 AM

I WIN!

RightWinged on July 22, 2009 at 1:46 AM

AprilOrit, you’re spouting such a bag of bullsh!t it’s not even funny.

It is…. (stop, wait for it)…. ILLEGAL…. for anybody in Hawaii to say squat about Obama’s documents. They are confidential. They can only be released by Obama. He’s not releasing it. That’s the whole point. Get it?

Before you say one more word, tell everyone here whether or not you have seen the video about a few of the signs of forgery in the document, which is posted at

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=104599

If you haven’t, then you are simply too ignorant to even speak coherently on the subject. To show your basic reading/listening comprehension skills, list the 4 pieces of evidence Dr Ron Polarik describes on the video which show the online images are forgeries. You can’t do complex analysis if you can’t even do basic factual recall. Bloom’s taxonomy.

justincase on July 22, 2009 at 1:42 AM

You are out of your mind.

I was born here in Manhattan, my original document is on file with Vital Statistics and can be verified by the head of our Health Dept.

Produce a forgery expert who isn’t in bed with Alex Jones, a 9/11 Toother and a Clinton supporter – PUMA loon and maybe I will listen.

AprilOrit on July 22, 2009 at 1:48 AM

According to Politifact, this is what Janice Okubo said when specifically asked about Obama’s online images:
“I don’t know that it’s possible for us to even say beyond a doubt what the image on the site represents.”

Do you get it yet, April? It is ILLEGAL for them to say anything about what Obama posted. Posting an image online is NEVER acceptable as legal documentation.

Obama has done ZIP to answer the questions. Actually he’s done even worse than zip: he’s posted images of forged documents.

justincase on July 22, 2009 at 1:49 AM

April Orit: blahblahblahblahblah YOU ARE OUT OF YOUR MIND blahblahblahblahblahblahblabh I WAS BORN blahblahblahblahblahblabhablhablh I WILL NEVER LOOK AT EVIDENCE OR USE A BRAIN CELL AND YOU CAN’T MAKE ME blahblahblahblabhlablhablhalbhalbhalhalalblahblabhalbhalbha

justincase on July 22, 2009 at 1:51 AM

AprilOrit on July 22, 2009 at 1:44 AM

Of course, it’s racist. Everything is racist.

Jim Treacher on July 22, 2009 at 1:51 AM

Lou Dobbs is racist. Right? ;)

justincase on July 22, 2009 at 1:53 AM

Cry “Racism!” The last defense.

So, if I didn’t vote for Obama I am a racist?

But, if one voted for Obama only because he is Black, they are not racist?

coldwarrior on July 22, 2009 at 2:05 AM

Of course, it’s racist. Everything is racist.

Jim Treacher on July 22, 2009 at 1:51 AM

When it comes to these idiots and Obama – yes.

They are like human versions of an auto-immune disease within the GOP and it’s tragic.

It is killing the Party.

AprilOrit on July 22, 2009 at 2:06 AM

AprilOrit on July 22, 2009 at 1:44 AM

It is really hard to think your own government could persuade you to actually vote for facist, communist, socialist, BUT, surely not CAPITALIST…G&d Da&&m…Don’t you fu#in re@d?????????

OH YEA’FACISTS=FARRIES
SOCIALIST=TROLLS
Birther’s= Truther’s
GOLEM=AprilOrit

jollybird on July 22, 2009 at 2:07 AM

AprilOrit on July 22, 2009 at 2:06 AM

I understand that this is your repeated assertion, yes.

Jim Treacher on July 22, 2009 at 2:08 AM

April Orit: blahblahblahblahblah YOU ARE OUT OF YOUR MIND blahblahblahblahblahblahblabh I WAS BORN blahblahblahblahblahblabhablhablh I WILL NEVER LOOK AT EVIDENCE OR USE A BRAIN CELL AND YOU CAN’T MAKE ME blahblahblahblabhlablhablhalbhalbhalhalalblahblabhalbhalbha

justincase on July 22, 2009 at 1:51 AM

Hate to tell you but Ron Polarik doesn’t exist and he is hardly a PhD. it’s a made up name, made up persona, made up title, if this guy was so legitimate – why not use his real name and his real location?

Why does this guy only post on Wingnut Daily and Free Republic?

I think we know why.

AprilOrit on July 22, 2009 at 2:09 AM

AprilOrit on July 22, 2009 at 2:06 AM
G O L E M

jollybird on July 22, 2009 at 2:10 AM

AprilOrit on July 22, 2009 at 1:44 AM

It is really hard to think your own government could persuade you to actually vote for facist, communist, socialist, BUT, surely not CAPITALIST…G&d Da&&m…Don’t you fu#in re@d?????????

OH YEA’FACISTS=FARRIES
SOCIALIST=TROLLS
Birther’s= Truther’s
GOLEM=AprilOrit

jollybird on July 22, 2009 at 2:07 AM

Wingnut – HEAL THYSELF.

If you would have been posting here during the election – like everyone else you would have known I was a McCain supporter and voted for him.

Another one of these know-it-all-assumes-you-voted-for-Obama-because-you-will-not-support-the-fringe-loon-faction-destroying-my-GOP.

AprilOrit on July 22, 2009 at 2:12 AM

jollybird on July 22, 2009 at 2:10 AM

Wow, resort to name calling because I won’t buy into your crazy TROOFER ideas.

LOLOLOLOL

AprilOrit on July 22, 2009 at 2:16 AM

These people cannot handle this man – half black – in that white house – PERIOD.

AprilOrit on July 22, 2009 at 1:44 AM

Aaahhhh. The opposition argument from the good old days of the Shamnesty debate. Very nostalgic, April. You can check out Lindsey Graham’s old statements for some more material.

progressoverpeace on July 22, 2009 at 2:17 AM

I must say, I’m fortunate to be so far removed from government, but half of everything my husband earns goes to the FED, SSI,ect……. yada yada yada…I will not run for any office, because I drink LARGE amounts of SPIRITS….I’d have to fight every one of them….put them on an INDIAN RESERVATIONS….FU&& th^m @LL!!!

jollybird on July 22, 2009 at 2:20 AM

AprilOrit on July 22, 2009 at 2:09 AM

How is that straight up talk working out for you? Are you swinging any folks around to your way of perception that “Hey you may be a racist” because you don’t support President Obama?

Americannodash on July 22, 2009 at 2:23 AM

AprilOrit on July 22, 2009 at 2:16 AM

OKAY SORRY,Golem not your NAME…..Really I get everything everyone is saying around here.

BUT all of a sudden HERE COMES GODZILLA!!!!!

jollybird on July 22, 2009 at 2:26 AM

AprilOrit on July 22, 2009 at 2:09 AM
How is that straight up talk working out for you? Are you swinging any folks around to your way of perception that “Hey you may be a racist” because you don’t support President Obama?

Americannodash on July 22, 2009 at 2:23 AM

Nice try – but not quite. Your straight up talk is BS.

That’s not what I said.

I said these Birther loons were racists – that was the basic lynch pin of their arguement; like the loon-poon on tape in Delaware.

I never implied if you don’t support Obama or his policies you are a racist.

AprilOrit on July 22, 2009 at 2:28 AM

jollybird on July 22, 2009 at 2:26 AM

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Godzilla?? Is that supposed to be funny?

AprilOrit on July 22, 2009 at 2:30 AM

Godzilla?? Is that supposed to be funny?

AprilOrit on July 22, 2009 at 2:30 AM

It made me laugh.

progressoverpeace on July 22, 2009 at 2:31 AM

Krydor on July 21, 2009 at 1:12 PM

They are dangerous to WE THE PEOPLE AND A SITTING PRESIDENT.

And HA should not be jacking up these loons anymore that they already are. Somebody will do something they think is patriotic – and … Like the Far Left was with 9/11 and Bush – these loons just do not want to accept the truth.

I have come to the conclusion that what this group really wants to say is, “why is this n**ger in the White House?”AprilOrit on July 21, 2009 at 5:02 PM

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.What’s wrong with this picture????
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Is this HATE SPEECH what stands for reasonable debate by HotAir standards? THIS IS DISGUSTING! DON’T YOU DARE PUT THOSE HATEFUL WORDS INTO MY MOUTH!
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ALLAH, ED, MICHELLE- TAKE A STAND & RESTORE ORDER. CHOOSE THE ACTION, CHOOSE THE CONSEQUENCES.Let these foul words remain at your peril:
“What this group really wants to say is, ‘Why is this n**ger in the White House?’”

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With that one sentence she makes our HA family out to be RAAAACISTS. Fix this now.

NightmareOnKStreet on July 22, 2009 at 2:35 AM

Nice try – but not quite. Your straight up talk is BS.

That’s not what I said.

I said these Birther loons were racists – that was the basic lynch pin of their arguement; like the loon-poon on tape in Delaware.

I never implied if you don’t support Obama or his policies you are a racist.

AprilOrit on July 22, 2009 at 2:28 AM

What do you think of the tea party protesters?

Americannodash on July 22, 2009 at 2:35 AM

I said these Birther loons were racists – that was the basic lynch pin of their arguement; like the loon-poon on tape in Delaware.

AprilOrit on July 22, 2009 at 2:28 AM

Wow. That is some theory you’ve got, there.

progressoverpeace on July 22, 2009 at 2:36 AM

Go ahead Birthers – knock yourselves out.

This is rich & hilarious …

Obama conspiracy theories have it all: a charismatic man rising from nowhere to be elected President of the United States, allegations of forged documents, tied to cover-ups by both federal and state officials. Best-selling authors and hundreds of web sites have taken up the cause, led by familiar conspiracy theory faces, themselves all with “interesting” pasts and associations. We have foreign intrigue in at least 4 countries, grandmothers and Anabaptists bishops, and a wealth of claims and counter claims playing out in the courts including the Supreme Court of the United States. One by one, everyone who could dispel the questions turns up dead…

AprilOrit on July 22, 2009 at 2:38 AM

HEY AprilOrit, I’m confident the law will prevail, really, eventually ALL WILL BE REVEALED…

jollybird on July 22, 2009 at 2:39 AM

AprilOrit on July 22, 2009 at 2:38 AM

Okay, but what do you think of the tea party protesters?

Americannodash on July 22, 2009 at 2:43 AM

I said these Birther loons were racists – that was the basic lynch pin of their arguement; like the loon-poon on tape in Delaware.

AprilOrit on July 22, 2009 at 2:28 AM

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Nice try, but here are your words “They are dangerous to WE THE PEOPLE AND A SITTING PRESIDENT.

And HA should not be jacking up these loons anymore that they already are. Somebody will do something they think is patriotic – and … Like the Far Left was with 9/11 and Bush – these loons just do not want to accept the truth.

I have come to the conclusion that what this group really wants to say is, “why is this n**ger in the White House?”
AprilOrit on July 21, 2009 at 5:02 PM
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Embrace your words and know they have consequences. You’re pathetically limp attempt to dismiss our legitimate legal questions as RAAAACIST are your LAST HURRAH. YOUR DAYS ARE NUMBERED. The ban hammer awaits.

NightmareOnKStreet on July 22, 2009 at 2:45 AM

AprilOrit on July 22, 2009 at 2:12 AM

I’m trying to heal myself, but…or maybe BUTTUS…or…Rectumus barsifalliss…or just AprilOrit

jollybird on July 22, 2009 at 2:47 AM

An absolute NEW LOW for the “Tinkle on myself” NON-JOURNALIST.

To put a “BORN IN THE USA” logo right in front of the Republican congressman WITHOUT HIM EVEN NOTICING IT!

Look I’m 50/50 with this birth certificate thing. I think Barack’s copy looks TOO NEW. I need to see a OLD ONE with the Seal and the MARK. When I got my new passport they demanded that my birth certificate have a ORIGINAL SEAL!

What the REAL NUTJOB Matthews was holding up was a COPY not with the real seal.

And about nutcases. What about your collegue Olbermann who said that BUSH WAS MAKING UP TERRORIST THREATS TO SCARE THE AMERICAN PEOPLE FOR THE UPCOMING 2006 MIDTERMS (WHICH DIDN’T WORK) who quickly disregarded the FORT DIX INCIDENT AS A REAL TERRORIST THREAT! Ole LIAR-MANN who said that AL-QAEDA’S NOT OUR REAL THREAT BUT THAT BUSH/CHENEY ARE. WHO SAID THAT, “WHAT COULD A BUNCH OF POOR HOMELESS MUSLIMS DO EVEN IF THEY DID BREAK INTO FORT DIX”?

Well 19 poor stupid CAVE MEN managed to HIJACK 4 PLANES and kill 3,000 people but don’t tell OLBY that.

History has shown that it just takes a few A-HOLES to bring down entire buildings or civilizations.

rednebulastudios on July 22, 2009 at 2:49 AM

I believe Obama renounced his citizenship. His whole past needs to be brought to light.

OOOoohhhhh that sounds sooooo racist. /AprilOrit

I am “birthist” but not a racist. The whole conspiracy lies in the cover-up. If I ever get to see an actual birth certificate, then I might be able to create a conspiracy. Until then just call me inquisitive, you racist troll April.

infidel on July 22, 2009 at 2:49 AM

HEY AprilOrit, I’m confident the law will prevail, really, eventually ALL WILL BE REVEALED…

jollybird on July 22, 2009 at 2:39 AM

Yeah, what will be revealed is that this a big fat waste of the tax payers money, i.e. frivelous lawsuits.

Like I told my across the hall neighbor –

for years all she talked about was Bush attacking his own country and how we were going to find out not just the real Truth – but the real real real Truth – that they had to be guilty – they just had to be – and Bush and Cheney would be swinging from a noose –

– give it up already, you sound like a punch-drunk uninformed lunatic disregarding the facts; instead embracing any desparate angle to rationalize the irrational.

AprilOrit on July 22, 2009 at 2:50 AM

AprilOrit on July 22, 2009 at 2:38 AM

Do you think like Garofalo does? She said to tea partiers are all racists who hate our black president.

Americannodash on July 22, 2009 at 2:51 AM

infidel on July 22, 2009 at 2:49 AM

Listen toi you people – anyoe is a troll that doesn’t drink the TROOFER kool-aid.

Get a grip, take a deep breath, get over it.

AprilOrit on July 22, 2009 at 2:53 AM

Being lectured by AprilOrit on adherence to facts is like being lectured by Kirstie Alley on between-meal treats.

Jim Treacher on July 22, 2009 at 2:53 AM

It’s “dumb” that the Constitution requires the leader of the US to be born in the US?

AP you have lost your mind.

Don’t like it? Crank up the grass roots movement for a repeal.

Good luck with that.

While you’re at it maybe get the 22nd Amendment repealed too.

LimaLimaMikeFoxtrot on July 22, 2009 at 2:58 AM

Listen toi you people – anyoe is a troll that doesn’t drink the TROOFER kool-aid.

Get a grip, take a deep breath, get over it.

AprilOrit on July 22, 2009 at 2:53 AM

Listen up you people – April thinks you’re racist if attend a tea party or if you happen to think Obama is Constitutionally unqualified(nothing to do with race). It is a troll.

infidel on July 22, 2009 at 2:58 AM

AprilOrit needs nto DEFINE RACISIM.

I said these Birther loons were racists – that was the basic lynch pin of their arguement; like the loon-poon on tape in Delaware.

AprilOrit on July 22, 2009 at 2:28 AM

I am a citizen of the SOVERIEGN STATE OF MISSISSIPPI, SO …………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………HEY LET APRILORIT TELL EVERYONE…
MY DAUGHTER IS CHEEROKEE…We were worse than n!%%ers…

jollybird on July 22, 2009 at 3:01 AM

AprilOrit on July 22, 2009 at 2:38 AM
Do you think like Garofalo does? She said to tea partiers are all racists who hate our black president.

Americannodash on July 22, 2009 at 2:51 AM

No I do not.

In fact last night I posted:

Instead of being taken in by this loon TROOFER crap, get involved with the Tea Party Movement and do something positive.

Garofalo is a prime example of miserable in real life. I know a production manager that has worked on set with her here in the city, she’s very unhappy, maladjusted.

Wasn’t she also a notorious TROOTHER at one point?

AprilOrit on July 22, 2009 at 3:01 AM

HEY LET APRILORIT TELL EVERYONE…
MY DAUGHTER IS CHEEROKEE…We were worse than n!%%ers…

jollybird on July 22, 2009 at 3:01 AM

No darling – I have you Trumped – I’m a JOOOOOO…..

AprilOrit on July 22, 2009 at 3:02 AM

I personally believe he’s a natural born citizen born in Hawaii.

I AM CURIOUS, however, about these elusive college transcripts.

omnipotent on July 22, 2009 at 3:03 AM

AprilOrit

Really, get stuff right, we want to here your side,
I’m over this sh$t,BUT..YOU ARE….NOT ..GODZILLA..OR..A JUDGE…OR F’N Jesus C’st..so throw yourself on your on sword….ooops…we don’t have violent weapons….anymore…..MOMMEY…Right?…MOMMEY?

jollybird on July 22, 2009 at 3:09 AM

AprilOrit

Please give me FACTS

jollybird on July 22, 2009 at 3:10 AM

AprilOrit

Really, get stuff right, we want to here your side,
I’m over this sh$t,BUT..YOU ARE….NOT ..GODZILLA..OR..A JUDGE…OR F’N Jesus C’st..so throw yourself on your on sword….ooops…we don’t have violent weapons….anymore…..MOMMEY…Right?…MOMMEY?

jollybird on July 22, 2009 at 3:09 AM

Hear my side?

I gave you the facts and furthermore if there was any truth to any of this – the boss – your blog host – would have come on board. She has not – in fact she has denounced it.

Michelle, along with Allah & Ed – like me – are buying none of it.

Michelle was an expert on the AP photo forgeries a few years back – why – if this birth certificate is a forgery – has she and the other prominent Right bloggers covered it?

You know why? Because there is nothing there – nothing at all to it.

When legitamate bloggers – like Michelle and others come out and present real evidence – that this man was born in Kenya as you all state – and the birth certificate is in fact a forgery – I’ll listen.

Until then there are much more pressing issues – and this Birther crap is a distraction.

AprilOrit on July 22, 2009 at 3:21 AM

No I do not.

In fact last night I posted:

Instead of being taken in by this loon TROOFER crap, get involved with the Tea Party Movement and do something positive.

Garofalo is a prime example of miserable in real life. I know a production manager that has worked on set with her here in the city, she’s very unhappy, maladjusted.

Wasn’t she also a notorious TROOTHER at one point?

AprilOrit on July 22, 2009 at 3:01 AM

Well it is good that you can recognize Garofalo as a prime example of miserable, unhappy, maladjusted person.

Now, are you in favor of the foreign policy that Obama has put on the State of Israel. President Barack Obama’s blunt and public call for Israel to halt all building of homes at West Bank settlement. JERUSALEM, 50 new homes at a West Bank settlement as part of a plan for 1450 housing.

Americannodash on July 22, 2009 at 3:21 AM

Whoops meant to write:

Michelle was an expert on the AP photo forgeries a few years back – why – if this birth certificate is a forgery – why hasn’t she and the other prominent Right bloggers covered it?

AprilOrit on July 22, 2009 at 3:22 AM

Well it is good that you can recognize Garofalo as a prime example of miserable, unhappy, maladjusted person.

Now, are you in favor of the foreign policy that Obama has put on the State of Israel. President Barack Obama’s blunt and public call for Israel to halt all building of homes at West Bank settlement. JERUSALEM, 50 new homes at a West Bank settlement as part of a plan for 1450 housing.

Americannodash on July 22, 2009 at 3:21 AM

Yes I do, they started leaving the West Bank when Bush was the President. I know people who have fmily members who have left – and come back here to Manhattan.

I personally would not want to live in Israel. This is my homeland as far as I am concerned – the USA. I am an American first and formost, and my parents – grands – all feel the same way.

AprilOrit on July 22, 2009 at 3:26 AM

Until then there are much more pressing issues

AprilOrit on July 22, 2009 at 3:21 AM

Clearly.

Jim Treacher on July 22, 2009 at 3:27 AM

Bush wanted them to leave the settlements as well.

What’s the difference?

AprilOrit on July 22, 2009 at 3:28 AM

OKAY…..AprilOrit on July 22, 2009 at 1:35 AM…

Show me… I will show many treaty…

jollybird on July 22, 2009 at 3:37 AM

Bush wanted them to leave the settlements as well.

What’s the difference?

AprilOrit on July 22, 2009 at 3:28 AM

I don’t recall Bush wanting that but you we have a new president. President Obama mentioned in his speeches that he didn’t want to meddle, correct? Why would he think that he can meddle in Israel but leave the situation in Iran alone. Do you think that the protesters in Iran have a valid claim to wanting more liberty in their everyday lives? If yes, then why wouldn’t the leader of the free world not support that? He seems to align himself with dictactors & tyrants and on the other hand he snubs our allies. Why would the leader of the free world do something like that?

Americannodash on July 22, 2009 at 3:38 AM

Bull shit.. I have family from Chicago… so what?…

jollybird on July 22, 2009 at 3:38 AM

Jim Treacher on July 22, 2009 at 3:27 AM

Here’s my conspiracy theory –

This story was initially started by the Clinton campaign. Berg is a Democrat Truther who hated Bush, hates the GOP.

It’s almost as though he and his ilk wanted to plant the seeds of this conspiracy in the hearts and minds of the Far Right – as he knew they hated Obama just enough to bite the bullet and run with it.

So here we have it – a major distraction and Berg’s hopes of the unraveling of the GOP – in the reasonable general public’s eye.

That woman in Delaware is either being used by these people – she’s a pawn and is none the wiser – or she’s someone who wants to make the GOP look like it’s nuts and that the Far Right 1960s John Birch faction – like the group William F Buckley ran out of the Party way back then – has usurped the Party and is running the show.

It’s not good and will not help us win elections. We need the Independents this next go round.

AprilOrit on July 22, 2009 at 3:43 AM

I don’t recall Bush wanting that but you we have a new president. President Obama mentioned in his speeches that he didn’t want to meddle, correct? Why would he think that he can meddle in Israel but leave the situation in Iran alone. Do you think that the protesters in Iran have a valid claim to wanting more liberty in their everyday lives? If yes, then why wouldn’t the leader of the free world not support that? He seems to align himself with dictactors & tyrants and on the other hand he snubs our allies. Why would the leader of the free world do something like that?

Americannodash on July 22, 2009 at 3:38 AM

Obama made the right decision about Iran as far as I am concerned.

I am not a Neo-Con – so we probably do not agree on any of this.

You sound like the type who thinks we should be fighting every country this side of hell.

I don’t – I believe in Diplomacy – like Reagan.

AprilOrit on July 22, 2009 at 3:46 AM

From what I understand of these arguments seems to be 2 fold.

Argument #1 follows the “Obama was never born in the US and therefore is not eligible to be POTUS.”

Which I personally would file in the conspiracy column.

Argument #2 asks the question if the Founding Fathers chose the wording “Natural Born” over “Native Born” with the intent that no US President should have dual allegiances (Dual Citizenship) at birth? Obama admits to being born with Dual Citizenship. At birth Obama was under British Law, as well as US Law (depending which Truther you talk with).

Here is my question to everybody.

Are there clear rulings from our Judicial branch that define the meaning of “Natural Born” as being born on US soil, to 2 Natural or Naturalized US citizens? Or clear rulings stating that “Natural Born” means born to one US citizen parent on US soil?

On the purely Hypothetical, what do you think the reaction would be of various Founding Fathers (race aside) of a man born a British Citizen attaining the Presidency? Then after they digest that question, tell them the kind of gifts Obama got the PM and the Queen.

Interesting, no?

wuesteblitz on July 22, 2009 at 3:47 AM

Bush wanted them to leave the settlements as well.

What’s the difference?

AprilOrit on July 22, 2009 at 3:28 AM

Only a true Obamabot could say somethign this ridiculous. You are the worst type of troll.

progressoverpeace on July 22, 2009 at 3:49 AM

why hasn’t she and the other prominent Right bloggers covered it?

AprilOrit on July 22, 2009 at 3:22 AM

You should probably address that question to their Orthopedists.

Cheshire Cat on July 22, 2009 at 3:49 AM

Obama made the right decision about Iran as far as I am concerned.

I am not a Neo-Con – so we probably do not agree on any of this.

You sound like the type who thinks we should be fighting every country this side of hell.

I don’t – I believe in Diplomacy – like Reagan.

AprilOrit on July 22, 2009 at 3:46 AM

Where in any of my words would have lead you to the conclusion that I think we should be fighting every country this side of hell?

So you think Reagan would be doing the same thing as Obama is doing with the protesters in Iran? You think a Reagan foreign policy would side with the Iranian regime as it stands today?

Are you Republican, Independant or what?

Americannodash on July 22, 2009 at 3:57 AM

I saw nothing. I heard nothing. I know nothing. I was not there. I did not even get up the day that Barack Obama was born. I couldn’t have seen around all those Elephants anyway.

OberfeldwebelSchultz on July 22, 2009 at 3:59 AM

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