Video: Chris Matthews takes on the Birthers. What could go wrong?

posted at 7:31 pm on July 21, 2009 by Allahpundit

Slowly but surely, this meme is going mainstream: Lou Dobbs picked it up (credulously) in his radio show this morning, Rick Sanchez goofed on it this afternoon, even Rush is starting to talk about it — foolishly, really, given how it distracts from the momentum conservatives are building against ObamaCare. Lost in all the blather is the shining fact that the natural-born requirement is probably the single dumbest operative provision in the Constitution and in a sane world would have been abolished decades ago in favor of some sort of residency requirement. Something to shoot for after The One leaves office, perhaps? Shouldn’t be a partisan issue: Once it’s repealed, we can finally run the conservative we all want for president.

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But I ate my meat!

Good Lt on July 21, 2009 at 10:29 PM

I’m quite sure you did.

Jim Treacher on July 21, 2009 at 10:31 PM

The only one who has to prove where he was born is him.

Jim Treacher on July 21, 2009 at 10:19 PM

Many props to you, Treach.

Love your stuff, brother!

roscopico on July 21, 2009 at 10:31 PM

Why does the act of asking simple questions hurt your little feelings?

It doesn’t.

Keep in mind that the 9-11 truth movement was also “just asking questions.”

Good Lt on July 21, 2009 at 10:32 PM

Ah, yes. The “right” lessons are that Obama’s birth certificate isn’t real and that there is some massive, evil cover-up to hide the “truth” about his real Kenyan nature/citizenship/whatever.

Or something. Hey – it’s your theory.

Good Lt on July 21, 2009 at 10:27 PM

It is of the highest importance in the art of analysis to be able to recognize out of a number of facts which are incidental and which vital. Otherwise your energy and attention must be dissipated instead of being concentrated. To let the brain work without the right material is like racing an engine. It racks itself to pieces.

semloh on July 21, 2009 at 10:33 PM

There, finally someone at least tried to make a reasoned point. BUT, what I say to that is, “Birthers” are not legion like Truthers. Many of us just don’t understand the secretiveness. So it would shut most of this up if he’d pony up $10, release the thing, and folks like Treacher and myself would probably just say “was that so hard?” Why have people “vouch” for its existence, but not release it? The whole thing is just stupid.

RightWinged on July 21, 2009 at 10:01 PM

I realize that there are some who fall on the somewhat reasonable side of the spectrum, but likewise there are plenty in the Birther movement who don’t. The more vested people become in a cause, the less reasonable and rational some of them tend to get with regard to the issue. I’ve zero doubt that the release of his birth certificate would only fuel more speculation and conspiracy theorizing.

It’s not exactly unheard of for politicians to take side of caution when it comes to their past- John Kerry’s DD214, Hillary Clinton’s master’s thesis, Obama’s college transcript- we’ve not seen those either, and the content of none of them would make them ineligible for the office they hold.

Hollowpoint on July 21, 2009 at 10:33 PM

Where are the compelling and credible “facts” that demonstrate he was born in another country?

Hollowpoint on July 21, 2009 at 10:17 PM

Kenya detained a journalist and prevented him from speaking to the family or talking to anyone within the government who could show him a Kenyan BC.

There is a priest who signed a sworn avadavit saying that when he interviewed the Obama family in Kenya, Sarah? said that BO was born in Kenya. He swears he asked this multiple times in Swahili, that she understood, and that she said it before another family member could silence her.

journeyintothewhirlwind on July 21, 2009 at 10:33 PM

But I ate my meat!

Good Lt on July 21, 2009 at 10:29 PM

No one else would volunteer…. So sad….

katy on July 21, 2009 at 10:34 PM

No other president as far as I know has ever had to produce his BC. Just because there are “questions” doesn’t mean you now have a “right” to demand it from him. Do I believe somethings not right? Yes.

We need to pick our battles. You want to have a chance at ACTUALLY doing something with this? When we take congress back in 2010 call and write your congressman and have them slip in a spending bill legislation that Presidential candidates up for election or re-election must submit original birth certificates to the national archives in order to meet constitutional requirements.

Get him the next time around.

broker1 on July 21, 2009 at 10:34 PM

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/citizen.asp
Presupposes that Barack Hussein Obama was born in Hawaii. Since there is some doubt over that, others have argued that his mother’s citizenship conferred “natural born” status upon BHO even if foreign born. Reading the Sores based Snopes doesn’t point out that IF BHO was foreign born, he could not have “natural born” citizenship conferred on him by his mother.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/passport.asp
This, I have never heard contended before and will have to research more before I can provide an intelligent answer.

Please understand: I do not contend that BHO was NOT born in the USA. I simply do not know. I do know that there are what appear to me to be legitimate arguments that put his “natural born” status into doubt.

I am one of those that believe every single US Citizen has an absolute right to know (and I am aghast that the US Supreme Court ruled that citizens don’t have standing to question) that their president meets the Constitutional requirements.

katablog.com on July 21, 2009 at 10:34 PM

No one else would volunteer…. So sad….

Never heard that song, huh?

.000, katy. Still going strong.

Good Lt on July 21, 2009 at 10:35 PM

Yes, Yes, and Yes.

Too bad Oceania has always been at war with Eastasia.

roscopico on July 21, 2009 at 10:36 PM

Good Lt on July 21, 2009 at 10:32 PM

Nobody ask any more questions about anything, ever. That’s Trutherism.

Jim Treacher on July 21, 2009 at 10:36 PM

katy. Still going strong.

Good Lt on July 21, 2009 at 10:35 PM

That’s what they say…

katy on July 21, 2009 at 10:36 PM

Lost in all the blather is the shining fact that the natural-born requirement is probably the single dumbest operative provision in the Constitution and in a sane world would have been abolished decades ago in favor of some sort of residency requirement.

But it hasn’t. It doesn’t count because you think it’s dumb?

Jim Treacher on July 21, 2009 at 7:34 PM

.
Wow, Allah, how does it feel to be out of the closet? Must get pretty crowded in there with all those hypocrites who bitch & moan about tolerance & media bias. Pinch Chris Matthew’s cheeks for me, willya? (preferably with the “jaws of life”
.

Thank you Jim
for solving a big mystery for many of us who’ve been asking the question (since the primaries) not only about Obama, but McCain and Roger Calero, the Nicaraguan illegal criminal, who got past the Secretaries of State AND ON THE BALLOT in over 30 states, Bobby Jindal and whomever runs in 2012. Allah doesn’t like that part of the Constitution. Now can you flush out Ed’s & Michelle’s reasoning?
.
THIS PROUD “birther” will retreat to the Mothership now to work on getting to the bottom of which Dick (York or Sargent) made a better Darin on “Bewitched”.

NightmareOnKStreet on July 21, 2009 at 10:36 PM

It doesn’t.

Keep in mind that the 9-11 truth movement was also “just asking questions.”

Good Lt on July 21, 2009 at 10:32 PM

Man, you have been watching too many X-Files shows. I am related to Kevin Bacon as well I’m sure.

Are you and Chalres Jonhson sleeping together tonight? Does Hollowhead know?

faraway on July 21, 2009 at 10:36 PM

That avadavit (sp?) has been part of a number of the cases but because they have been thrown out on “we don’t care if your a voter, you don’t have a right to ask this court that question” it hasn’t even been looked at and ruled that it shows there is evidence of a Kenyan birth.

journeyintothewhirlwind on July 21, 2009 at 10:37 PM

No other president as far as I know has ever had to produce his BC.

broker1 on July 21, 2009 at 10:34 PM

And?

Jim Treacher on July 21, 2009 at 10:37 PM

.000, katy. Still going strong.

Good Lt on July 21, 2009 at 10:35 PM

you love life is of no interest to us, focus on birther accusations

runner on July 21, 2009 at 10:38 PM

Nobody ask any more questions about anything, ever. That’s Trutherism.

Or everybody asks stupid questions all the time about half-baked conspiracy theories cooked up by nutburgers from the fringe of politics.

Pardon me if I pass.

Good Lt on July 21, 2009 at 10:38 PM

It doesn’t.

Keep in mind that the 9-11 truth movement was also “just asking questions.”

Good Lt on July 21, 2009 at 10:32 PM

The Swiftian leap of logic you make in trying to equate people who want to be shown documentation that tradition has shown for at least the last eight years should be easily available with people who went moonbat over the death of 3000 Americans and tried to hamstring a war is astounding….

the only “damage” just asking questions on Ogabe’s transcripts, Birth Docs et al can do is to his ego when he gets butthurt that he lied about being a foreign student to get extra aid at Harvard and had “meh” grades before getting into law school and in all likelihood took a lot of Marxist coursework….

the damage done by the moose change crowd was undermining the nation during an active war.

sven10077 on July 21, 2009 at 10:38 PM

Get him the next time around.

broker1 on July 21, 2009 at 10:34 PM

Yes, Yes, and Yes.

Too bad Oceania has always been at war with Eastasia.

roscopico on July 21, 2009 at 10:36 PM

Sorry forgot to refer to your exceedingly excellent point, broker1

Regards,
roscopico

Im Himmel gibt’s kein Bier

roscopico on July 21, 2009 at 10:38 PM

focus on birther accusations

Accusations usually require evidence to be proven true.

Just saying.

Good Lt on July 21, 2009 at 10:38 PM

End of my comments for tonight:

Forget the Birth Certificate. Hawaii is never going to produce it. Because there IS no BC.

Set that aside. Each and every presidential candidate, vice presidential candidate, secretary of state and ____ insert your public official here, has:

1. Produced Educational Transcripts beginning at High School Graduation.

a)Where did Barack Hussein Obama Graduate High School, and please produce its transcripts.

2. Produced Educational Transcripts beginning at the college application level:

a) To whom did Barack Hussein Obama apply, and please produce its transcripts.
b) What exceptional educational acheivement led to the acceptance of Barack Hussein Obama into any educational institute? ii: Show testing methods, scoring, acheivement and selection for Barack Hussein Obama vs. other students.

Folks, these are just A and B. I’m sure that you have more questions for the Messiah. I know I do.

Key West Reader on July 21, 2009 at 10:38 PM

There, finally someone at least tried to make a reasoned point. BUT, what I say to that is, “Birthers” are not legion like Truthers. Many of us just don’t understand the secretiveness. So it would shut most of this up if he’d pony up $10, release the thing, and folks like Treacher and myself would probably just say “was that so hard?” Why have people “vouch” for its existence, but not release it? The whole thing is just stupid.

RightWinged on July 21, 2009 at 10:01 PM

I believe you 2 would. But most wouldnt. The 9/11 truther movement has seen plenty of evidence, popular mechanics, 9/11 commission but thats not the point of the movement. Its to grow a movement, thats it.

The “movement” would scrutinize the BC he gave you and would find something “not right” with it. More conspiracies would come out. “Photoshop expert says he got a call from David Axelrod to do some work on a document but he declined the work”. See where Im going with this?

broker1 on July 21, 2009 at 10:39 PM

And?

Jim Treacher on July 21, 2009 at 10:37 PM

er uh “he has er a strange name”….

Jim they are being willfully obtuse.

sven10077 on July 21, 2009 at 10:39 PM

Keep in mind that the 9-11 truth movement was also “just asking questions.”

Good Lt on July 21, 2009 at 10:32 PM

So were a myriad of other things. Almost everything starts out as “just asking questions. Your point is totally vacuous as are you.

HalJordan on July 21, 2009 at 10:39 PM

Or everybody asks stupid questions all the time about half-baked conspiracy theories cooked up by nutburgers from the fringe of politics.

Pardon me if I pass.

Good Lt on July 21, 2009 at 10:38 PM

Of course, that would be a waste of your valuable time.

Jim Treacher on July 21, 2009 at 10:40 PM

Obama won’t produce his long form birth certificate because its been misplaced. I suspect it is in the sound studio where they filmed the moon landings.

agmartin on July 21, 2009 at 10:40 PM

Jim they are being willfully obtuse.

We’re demanding you put up your “evidence” for this cover-up/eeeevil conspiracy or stop tarring the right with this idiotic nonsense.

We have more important things to do.

Good Lt on July 21, 2009 at 10:41 PM

Accusations usually require evidence to be proven true.

Just saying.

Good Lt on July 21, 2009 at 10:38 PM

how about

natural born citizen

requirements ?

runner on July 21, 2009 at 10:41 PM

I don’t know why he’s not released his birth certificate-

Because he has something to hide….either that, or he’s a complete buffoon for wasting hundreds of thousands of dollars fighting its release.

but I don’t recall previous Presidents releasing theirs to the public, either.

Was there anything in their background raising doubt as to where where they were born? If not, that’s probably why. But it’s not just his birth certificate, it’s school records, medical records, etc….things other Presidents HAVE released, but he hasn’t.

I do know that the Birthers wouldn’t give up on their cause even if he did.

Hollowpoint

Probably….but that’s no reason to spend nearly a million dollars keeping a birth certificate secret…..and most of us aren’t Birthers. Most of us are simply wondering why the hell he’s doing what he’s doing on this issue. He could have put our minds to rest a long time ago. Instead, he chooses to fan the flames.

xblade on July 21, 2009 at 10:41 PM

I believe you 2 would. But most wouldnt. The 9/11 truther movement has seen plenty of evidence, popular mechanics, 9/11 commission but thats not the point of the movement. Its to grow a movement, thats it.

The “movement” would scrutinize the BC he gave you and would find something “not right” with it. More conspiracies would come out. “Photoshop expert says he got a call from David Axelrod to do some work on a document but he declined the work”. See where Im going with this?

broker1 on July 21, 2009 at 10:39 PM

Spent plenty of time attacking the moose change crowd….

did awesome work over at Captain’s Quarters spanking some twit who tried the “steel don’t melt” riff with a nice article on how man has been heating metal without melting it since the bronze age if I may say so myself….

Ogabe has realized nothing from his past compared to Bush, Dole, and Gore….

why can’t the donk party run people who are proud of their pasts?

sven10077 on July 21, 2009 at 10:41 PM

Good Lt on July 21, 2009 at 10:29 PM

So then,…why hide anything?

If NOTHING is going on,..

Why hide adoption papers?
Pass port?
Birth Certificate?
Medical records?
College transcripts?

I mean, hussein is the first American bi-racial president, why on earth would he hide EVERYTHING that paved his path for the ultimate goal?
More-so w/his ego!
husseins the guy who would have it framed in gold!

Now tell me,…would you hide it, if you had nothing to hide?

christene on July 21, 2009 at 10:41 PM

We have more important things to do.

Good Lt on July 21, 2009 at 10:41 PM

What’s stopping you?

katy on July 21, 2009 at 10:42 PM

We’re demanding you put up your “evidence” for this cover-up/eeeevil conspiracy or stop tarring the right with this idiotic nonsense.

We have more important things to do.

Good Lt on July 21, 2009 at 10:41 PM

If you are a Lt. in the sense of anything other than Jim Dangle you have undergone a far more thorough documented background check and documentation than your CinC….

this does not bother you?

sven10077 on July 21, 2009 at 10:43 PM

stop tarring the right with this idiotic nonsense.

sounds menacing, is there a follow-up like , “or I will …” ?

runner on July 21, 2009 at 10:43 PM

with this idiotic nonsense.

We have more important things to do.

Good Lt on July 21, 2009 at 10:41 PM

Good Lord, Man. Rahm. Get yourself to bed. You must be up early tomorrow to meet with TOTUS who will give you your talking points. Do not stray from TOTUS. Or, we will strip the skin from your arse and.

/This blog interruption was brought to you by LiveObama.net.

Key West Reader on July 21, 2009 at 10:43 PM

We’re demanding you put up your “evidence” for this cover-up/eeeevil conspiracy or stop tarring the right with this idiotic nonsense.

Good Lt on July 21, 2009 at 10:41 PM

You’ve got it exactly backwards. The question is whether you even realize it.

Jim Treacher on July 21, 2009 at 10:43 PM

runner on July 21, 2009 at 10:38 PM

I think he likes me…

katy on July 21, 2009 at 10:43 PM

There is a priest who signed a sworn avadavit saying that when he interviewed the Obama family in Kenya, Sarah? said that BO was born in Kenya. He swears he asked this multiple times in Swahili, that she understood, and that she said it before another family member could silence her.

journeyintothewhirlwind on July 21, 2009 at 10:33 PM

Credible and compelling that ain’t.

Hollowpoint on July 21, 2009 at 10:44 PM

You’ve got it exactly backwards. The question is whether you even realize it.

Jim Treacher on July 21, 2009 at 10:43 PM

Discussion over. No logical reason has been presented, why Obama shouldn’t release the birth cert.

RightWinged on July 21, 2009 at 10:44 PM

Now tell me,…would you hide it, if you had nothing to hide?

christene on July 21, 2009 at 10:41 PM

I wouldn’t?

I dunno…
Hope?
Change?

roscopico on July 21, 2009 at 10:45 PM

katy on July 21, 2009 at 10:43 PM

I think he likes Chris Matthews, they are on the same page and all

runner on July 21, 2009 at 10:46 PM

goodlt/broker1/hollowhead

You 3 spend hours on blogs posting comments about how others are involved in conspiracies they are not even aware of.

You truly need help. I’m not kidding.

faraway on July 21, 2009 at 10:46 PM

There is a priest who signed a sworn avadavit saying that when he interviewed the Obama family in Kenya, Sarah? said that BO was born in Kenya. He swears he asked this multiple times in Swahili, that she understood, and that she said it before another family member could silence her.

journeyintothewhirlwind on July 21, 2009 at 10:33 PM
Credible and compelling that ain’t.

Hollowpoint on July 21, 2009 at 10:44 PM

Screw that.. I’ll probably be banned for this but what the hey.

CAN WE AT LEAST GET HIS COLLEGE APPLICATIONS?

Hello?

Key West Reader on July 21, 2009 at 10:47 PM

roscopico on July 21, 2009 at 10:45 PM

LOL.

I wouldn’t.

I have my birth certificate & pass port.

christene on July 21, 2009 at 10:48 PM

Screw that.. I’ll probably be banned for this but what the hey.

CAN WE AT LEAST GET HIS COLLEGE APPLICATIONS?

Hello?

Key West Reader on July 21, 2009 at 10:47 PM

no soup for you….

see it was vital to the needs of the nation for the newsies to want to tell us Bush was a c student in his undergrad work while omitting Goreacle failed out of divinity school….

but Ogabe…we mortals don’t need to know anything at all…

sven10077 on July 21, 2009 at 10:48 PM

this does not bother you?

sven10077 on July 21, 2009 at 10:43 PM

People I guess will never get the point. YES IT BOTHERS US!. But its a battle that cant be won.

Exit question: Will you demand that our nominee in 2012 ask Obama on stage for his BC? Will you jump out of your seats at the townhalls and scream this?

broker1 on July 21, 2009 at 10:50 PM

Are things getting a little backed up here or did Allah object to being called a hypocrite. My (other) post must be in limbo, tried 2x since 10:38PM & nada…

NightmareOnKStreet on July 21, 2009 at 10:50 PM

CAN WE AT LEAST GET HIS COLLEGE APPLICATIONS?

Hello?

Key West Reader on July 21, 2009 at 10:47 PM

The filthy liar in the White House has led an affirmative action life (even more so than Colin Powell). What makes you think he had to apply for college. He just showed up and said he was black and demanded a full-ride scholarship.

highhopes on July 21, 2009 at 10:50 PM

goodlt/broker1/hollowhead

You 3 spend hours on blogs posting comments about how others are involved in conspiracies they are not even aware of.

You truly need help. I’m not kidding.

faraway on July 21, 2009 at 10:46 PM

The world would go around a lot faster than it does if everybody just minded their own business.

Cheshire Cat on July 21, 2009 at 10:50 PM

Doesn’t Obama also say the word “Kenya” like “KEEEEnYa” in the most annoying way?
Just sayin’.

Also, the dhimmicrats won’t release a damn thing.

“Move along folks, Nothing to see here!”

roscopico on July 21, 2009 at 10:51 PM

faraway on July 21, 2009 at 10:46 PM

That made absolutely zero sense. I appreciate your concern.

broker1 on July 21, 2009 at 10:51 PM

runner on July 21, 2009 at 10:46 PM

He couldn’t handle Chris Matthews…

katy on July 21, 2009 at 10:51 PM

Didn’t Obama need to show a Birth Certificate to get into Law School or College or take the Bar?

Speedwagon82 on July 21, 2009 at 10:04 PM

I’d imagine he’d only need proof of citizenship for that, which he has(but is different than being a natural born citizen). But speaking of the bar, he wasn’t very forthcoming on his Illinois State Bar application where it asked for other names used by the applicant and he stated, “none”. He must’ve forgotten all the years he was known as Barry Soetoro, huh?

So, we should all believe a Certificate of Live Birth posted on the internet that anyone could create (and has) in Photoshop should be accepted as documented fact of his eligibility because…he’s proven to be such an upstanding guy?

Which are we to believe when spoke about being born in one hospital, then recently wrote to another hospital commending them and mentioning he was born at that hospital too? Or should we give him the benefit of the doubt and attribute that little slip up to him being so busy running the country (to the ground) that he’d forgotten where he was born?

Or, since Pelosi certified his eligibility and we allllll know what a woman of integrity she is (had to choke that one out), maybe we should all just sit down and shut up about it, because….

Look, he lies to get what he wants without a flick of the eye. The number of lies he told during the campaign alone was absolutely astounding and it still stuns me so many were that gullible in believing him.

Is he a natural born citizen? I don’t know, but I do know that he has spent a lot of money fighting lawsuits and hiding records, and with the executive order he signed dated 1/21/09 ensuring they would not be released, anyone with an ounce of common sense would begin to wonder what he’s got to hide.

AngelStandlngBy on July 21, 2009 at 10:52 PM

The world would go around a lot faster than it does if everybody just minded their own business.

Signed
Obama to BC Truthers

Cheshire Cat on July 21, 2009 at 10:50 PM

FTFY

broker1 on July 21, 2009 at 10:53 PM

Screw that.. I’ll probably be banned for this but what the hey.

CAN WE AT LEAST GET HIS COLLEGE APPLICATIONS?

Hello?

Key West Reader on July 21, 2009 at 10:47 PM

The Certificate of Live Birth isn’t valid as evidence but a college application is?

Hollowpoint on July 21, 2009 at 10:54 PM

Of course, that would be a waste of your valuable time.

Eh. It seems that many people here waste plenty of their time on this BC conspiracy garbage without me bugging them about it.

On a serious note, I really do love most of you dudes and dudettes – call it tough love, I guess – and this kind of nonsense is beneath you. I feel you’re all better than this. But whatevs.

I’ll enjoy tangoing with you all on another thread about it.

Sleep calls, comrades. Peaceout.

Good Lt on July 21, 2009 at 10:54 PM

Where are Obama’s college friends?

His high school friends?

Who are Obama’s mother’s friends? What did they say about little baby Barry?

Why does Barry wear a wedding band in his college photos?

We knew almost nothing about this man.

faraway on July 21, 2009 at 10:55 PM

Credible and compelling that ain’t.

Hollowpoint on July 21, 2009 at 10:44 PM

Because Hollowpoint’s birth was witnessed by….

The rest of us? a mom, a dad, maybe a grandma, a Doctor, a nurse? So if your mom and dad are both DEAD, and you won’t release your BC to show the hospital, Doctor or nurse, who should one go to…..THE GRANDMA or whatever she is.

By the way there is a reward for a Doctor or Nurse, friend in Hawaii to step forward and provide documentation that he was born in Hawaii. It’s surprising in these economic conditions…and Hawaii is in some tough shit right now… That NOONE has come forward with credible evidence.

journeyintothewhirlwind on July 21, 2009 at 10:55 PM

Exit question: Will you demand that our nominee in 2012 ask Obama on stage for his BC? Will you jump out of your seats at the townhalls and scream this?

broker1 on July 21, 2009 at 10:50 PM

You are clinically paranoid. Please get some help.

faraway on July 21, 2009 at 10:56 PM

Until the next time Good Night all.

fourdeucer on July 21, 2009 at 10:56 PM

Exit question: Will you demand that our nominee in 2012 ask Obama on stage for his BC? Will you jump out of your seats at the townhalls and scream this?

broker1 on July 21, 2009 at 10:50 PM

Nope, I’ll keep the conversation elevated and ask him why he insists on wearing mom-jeans.

That is so. like. 1998 (or something).

Then I’d ask to see if he is an uncircumcised Philistine, or Muslim, or whatever…

PROVE YOURSELF SOETORO!b

roscopico on July 21, 2009 at 10:57 PM

On a serious note, I really do love most of you dudes and dudettes – call it tough love, I guess – and this kind of nonsense is beneath you.

thanks for showing everyone that not much is beneath you

runner on July 21, 2009 at 10:57 PM

CAN WE AT LEAST GET HIS COLLEGE APPLICATIONS?

Hello?

Key West Reader on July 21, 2009 at 10:47 PM

The White Rabbit says that he went to the same University as Barack Obama where they both took courses in reeling and writhing, of course, to begin with and then the different branches of arithmetic: ambition, distraction, obfuscation and derision. Islam, Karl Marx, and washing extra. I hope that helps.

Cheshire Cat on July 21, 2009 at 10:58 PM

Sleep calls, comrades. Peaceout.

Good Lt on July 21, 2009 at 10:54 PM

Say hi to Perez.

faraway on July 21, 2009 at 10:58 PM

Are things getting a little backed up here or did Allah object to being called a hypocrite. My (other) post must be in limbo, tried 2x since 10:38PM & nada…

NightmareOnKStreet on July 21, 2009 at 10:50 PM

.
Well that one got through, but I tried for the 3rd time to post my earlier one (10:38PM; 10:42PM & 10:52PM) and it doesn’t go through. Surely people have said worse things to you, Allah. Speaking of saying worse things, what about AprilOrit at 5:02PM today on the other thread using a racial slur to describe posters she disagreed with?

NightmareOnKStreet on July 21, 2009 at 10:58 PM

fourdeucer on July 21, 2009 at 10:56 PM

Night..

katy on July 21, 2009 at 10:58 PM

Good Lt on July 21, 2009 at 10:54 PM

kisses to Chrissy

katy on July 21, 2009 at 11:00 PM

AngelStandlngBy on July 21, 2009 at 10:52 PM

Hammer, meet nail.

You are the hammer, Angel.

Best wishes.
-Roscopico.

Im Himmel gibt’s kein Bier.

roscopico on July 21, 2009 at 11:00 PM

It seems that many people here waste plenty of their time on this BC conspiracy garbage without me bugging them about it.

Good Lt on July 21, 2009 at 10:54 PM

And even more time when you do. Congratulations.

Jim Treacher on July 21, 2009 at 11:01 PM

Doesn’t he have any family or friends who will say he was born in Hawaii? As old as I am there are still a few around that were here when I was born and will say so (I hope). What do we know about O and why is his earlier life and all so secret? We knew all about McCain, Palin, Biden, but……What do we know about O?

Herb on July 21, 2009 at 11:01 PM


Thank you Jim
for solving a big mystery for many of us who’ve been asking the question (since the primaries) not only about Obama, but McCain and Roger Calero, the Nicaraguan illegal criminal, who got past the Secretaries of State AND ON THE BALLOT in over 30 states, Bobby Jindal and whomever runs in 2012. Allah doesn’t like that part of the Constitution. Now can you flush out Ed’s & Michelle’s reasoning?
.
THIS PROUD “birther” will retreat to the Mothership now to work on getting to the bottom of which Dick (York or Sargent) made a better Darin on “Bewitched”.

NightmareOnKStreet on July 21, 2009 at 11:02 PM

NightmareOnKStreet on July 21, 2009 at 10:58 PM

If you expect more from her, she’ll break your aching heart

You might notice that answering questions is not her Thing, and neither is rational argument.

Janos Hunyadi on July 21, 2009 at 11:02 PM

On a serious note, I really do love most of you dudes and dudettes – call it tough love, I guess – and this kind of nonsense is beneath you. I feel you’re all better than this. But whatevs.

Good Lt on July 21, 2009 at 10:54 PM

Where I come from we had someone like you. We called him Tortoise because he taught us. Of course what he taught us was mostly not to pay him no mind at all.

Cheshire Cat on July 21, 2009 at 11:02 PM

How did a guy on food stamps get into Columbia?

faraway on July 21, 2009 at 11:03 PM

Wow, A-l-l-a-h, how does it feel to be out of the closet? Must get pretty crowded in there with all those hypocrites who bitch & moan about tolerance & media bias. Pinch Chris Matthew’s cheeks for me, willya? (preferably with the “jaws of life”

NightmareOnKStreet on July 21, 2009 at 11:03 PM

Hope everyone sleeps well, they are all awake (and scheming) in China.

Pleasant dreams.

I blame Booooosh.

Nuh nigh

roscopico on July 21, 2009 at 11:05 PM

Zero can’t submit his original long form birth certificate because the madrassas forgot to return it.

viking01 on July 21, 2009 at 11:06 PM

How did a guy on food stamps get into Columbia?

faraway on July 21, 2009 at 11:03 PM

he saved carefully and invested wisely..or somebody bankrolled him – take your pick

runner on July 21, 2009 at 11:06 PM

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/passport.asp

From what little research I’ve done tonight, this appears to be true and I stand corrected on this point. It appears that there was NO ban for US Citizens to travel to Pakistan until 1983.

katablog.com on July 21, 2009 at 11:08 PM

he saved carefully and invested wisely..or somebody bankrolled him – take your pick

runner on July 21, 2009 at 11:06 PM

no, no he won a multitude of scholarships based on his vast intellect….

and is too humble a guy to want to show off…..

so he is protecting us by hiding his college papers.

sven10077 on July 21, 2009 at 11:09 PM

I figure Obama was born in Hawaii.

But why doesn’t he just produce his true birth certificate and shove it right up the Troofers’ noses?

I don’t get it. It is like he is hiding something.

Could it be they lost the original?

Don’t go anywhere O-man. We need your evil growth of government to create monstrous backlash against DC and the Dems in 2010.

Sapwolf on July 21, 2009 at 11:09 PM

On a serious note, I really do love most of you dudes and dudettes – call it tough love, I guess – and this kind of nonsense is beneath you. I feel you’re all better than this. But whatevs.

Good Lt on July 21, 2009 at 10:54 PM

So you actually believe that with your torrential flood of illogic, that you call “tough love”, you convinced anyone of anything, anything that you wanted to convince anyone of, that is?

Absolutely astounding.

semloh on July 21, 2009 at 11:10 PM

Good night.

journeyintothewhirlwind on July 21, 2009 at 11:11 PM

From what little research I’ve done tonight, this appears to be true and I stand corrected on this point.

katablog.com on July 21, 2009 at 11:08 PM

Wait. This is not possible. You are supposed to continue to question. I am melting….

/ channeling the Birther Tellers

faraway on July 21, 2009 at 11:11 PM

NightmareOnKStreet on July 21, 2009 at 10:58 PM

If you expect more from her, she’ll break your aching heart

You might notice that answering questions is not her Thing, and neither is rational argument.

Janos Hunyadi on July 21, 2009 at 11:02 PM

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Thanks Janos, what I expect is for HotAir to apply their own TOS to her for her outrageous remark. It was way over the line. I’ve been around since 2006 and have enjoyed and respected your comments. I, and others to who she referred, did NOT deserve to be smeared. I think having our first black president was a great thing. I also think Obama has made the road harder for the next person of color, making him perhaps, our LAST black president. And that is a very sad situation.

NightmareOnKStreet on July 21, 2009 at 11:12 PM

If you expect more from her, she’ll break your aching heart

You might notice that answering questions is not her Thing, and neither is rational argument.

Janos Hunyadi on July 21, 2009 at 11:02 PM

Oh God, there is nothing so hurtful than to call Jim a girl. You know how sensitive he is.
You… you…monster you….

katy on July 21, 2009 at 11:13 PM

Could it be they lost the original?

Sapwolf on July 21, 2009 at 11:09 PM

The original is sitting at the Hawaii Health Dept.

faraway on July 21, 2009 at 11:13 PM

*should have been “to whom”*

NightmareOnKStreet on July 21, 2009 at 11:13 PM

Well that one got through, but I tried for the 3rd time to post my earlier one (10:38PM; 10:42PM & 10:52PM) and it doesn’t go through. Surely people have said worse things to you, Allah. Speaking of saying worse things, what about AprilOrit at 5:02PM today on the other thread using a racial slur to describe posters she disagreed with?

NightmareOnKStreet on July 21, 2009 at 10:58 PM

Nice try Red Pill.

But no cigar.

AprilOrit on July 21, 2009 at 11:14 PM

NightmareOnKStreet on July 21, 2009 at 10:58 PM

Hey Red – shouldn’t you be researching where Huck’s parents came from – so these phony Republican loons don’t go and disqualify him like they did Jindal?

AprilOrit on July 21, 2009 at 11:15 PM

april, have you been wearing your Palin 2012 T-shirt around Manhattan lately?

faraway on July 21, 2009 at 11:16 PM

Huck is from a place called Hope

faraway on July 21, 2009 at 11:17 PM

Oh God, there is nothing so hurtful than to call Jim a girl. You know how sensitive he is.
You… you…monster you….

katy on July 21, 2009 at 11:13 PM

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katy, LOL!! I think he meant AprilOrit’s use of the “n-word” from the other thread at 5:02PM today

NightmareOnKStreet on July 21, 2009 at 11:17 PM

The original is sitting at the Hawaii Health Dept.

faraway on July 21, 2009 at 11:13 PM

I lost mny original – years ago – and NY State will not replace it. They only issue short forms.

The same with New Jersey, where my cousin was born. She no longer has her long form in her possession – can not get one from the state.

AprilOrit on July 21, 2009 at 11:17 PM

Doesn’t Obama also say the word “Kenya” like “KEEEEnYa” in the most annoying way?
Just sayin’.

roscopico on July 21, 2009 at 10:51 PM

I got one word fer ya:

Pokeestahn.

bitsy on July 21, 2009 at 11:18 PM

I figure Obama was born in Hawaii.

But why doesn’t he just produce his true birth certificate and shove it right up the Troofers’ noses?

Sapwolf on July 21, 2009 at 11:09 PM

He’s just waiting for the right moment, apparently. This is all part of his brilliant plan, and these dopes are just blundering into it. (Is that right, geniuses who are smarter than everybody else?)

Jim Treacher on July 21, 2009 at 11:19 PM

NightmareOnKStreet on July 21, 2009 at 11:17 PM

I feel better now…

katy on July 21, 2009 at 11:22 PM

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