Quote of the day
posted at 10:30 pm on July 21, 2009 by Allahpundit
“You’re Peggy Noonan and you’re jealous. So you loosed a multi-column primal scream: Palin is an idiot who is ‘out of her depth in a shallow pool’, a woman who has no sense of personal limits because she is not even smart enough to realize she is ‘a ponder-free zone.’ Whoa-good one! The rhetorical equivalent of the chickenwing camel clutch, where you come up behind and twist her arm behind her back, and then force her face to the mat. Or, in her case, to the snow. That’s what they have in Alaska, don’t they? You don’t know, of course-Martha’s Vineyard is about as far north as you venture, and then only to observe humanity-you know, the common folks-from ‘a little pier’ before strolling over for dinner with two of the more brilliant stars in your friends firmament, television personalities Diane Sawyer and Katie Couric…
You hang with the grandees, and they understand the world. Unlike Sarah Palin, who uses a pier simply to fish and wouldn’t know a winsome observation if it jumped into her net. And you just don’t understand the crowds, the admiration for someone who owns the kind of fishing boat that is not equipped with a champagne cooler. Oh, the unfairness of it all!“
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I understand. Half the people I see on campus don’t belong there. They don’t want to be there, it’s merely some obligatory waypoint in life for them.
blatantblue on July 22, 2009 at 7:57 AM
It’s obligatory, and people just get by with the skin of their teeth, doing shots of Jack and getting C-’s
blatantblue on July 22, 2009 at 7:58 AM
I mean, it’s not that they aren’t intelligent enough to be there
They just don’t give a rats a$$
blatantblue on July 22, 2009 at 8:00 AM
Well if getting more than a H.S. education allows one to support a governing idiot like Obama, or a social snob with no idea how real America works, then consider oneself lucky if you haven’t made it any further.
Jeff from WI on July 22, 2009 at 8:12 AM
I was offline when this was posted, but I was really hoping it’d be the Quote of the Day. This is such a brutal takedown.
BadgerHawk on July 22, 2009 at 8:36 AM
Dear Stewart Schwartz,
The next time I see you in a bar somewhere, I’m picking up your tab.
<3
America
bluelightbrigade on July 22, 2009 at 8:37 AM
Great comments, DDT, gridlock2 & all.
Love the Palin threads – they introduce me to commenters I’ve never seen before.
Bartrams Garden, is it? Welcome to HotAir.
RD on July 22, 2009 at 8:47 AM
It’s perfectly legitimate to question if Palin is prepared for national office. But people like Noonan and Brooks and Frum (and McCain’s own senior campaign officials) express more viciousness toward Palin than toward Obama for heaven’s sake. It really is a Derangement Syndrome, and it’s very, very wrong.
For what it’s worth, I think it’s both shameful and cruel that the Democrats are now trying to force Palin into bankruptcy with these additional ethics charges. The woman can’t even get help paying for her defense of frivolous ethics charges which, but for the fact she was the VP nominee and various McCain people told her not to, the State of Alaska would have picked up?
Outlander on July 22, 2009 at 9:13 AM
Outlander on July 22, 2009 at 9:13 AM
so how is never mentioning her record a way to see if she is quailified for office? Peggy at el never talk about Palin’s accomplishments,her her record, etc just a katie interview.
unseen on July 22, 2009 at 9:15 AM
You are known by the company you keep. Peggy Noonan wants to be considered a lady while she dances in a whorehouse. Mybe I’m just cynical, but that doesn’t really work for me.
I appreciate articles like this that expose the frauds for what they are. Good job, Mr. Schwartz.
SKYFOX on July 22, 2009 at 9:18 AM
Xolom – In high school I completed the IB diploma program then went on to get a degree from New York University in 3 years. I also support Palin.
I’m certainly not the smartest person in the world but I could go toe-to-toe with the average voter of any other candidate and most likely come out ahead.
For what it’s worth, the candidate most recent college grads supported is in the White House bankrupting the country right now. College is structured to teach facts on certain topics, not wisdom, logic or how to actually think through a topic. A person has a PhD in neurolinguistics doesnt necessarily know anything about economics, international politics or anything else. Using a degree as a guage of anything other than familiarity with the topic of the degree is misguided.
JadeNYU on July 22, 2009 at 9:51 AM
Sarah has more class in her little toe than Moonan, the View cows, and most of the other reprobates Moonan hangs with.
Go Sarah you rock!
Take it to the corruptocrats, run third party on Term Limits for all branches of Gov’t, Pay/Benefits for Congress Clowns and Senate Scum the same as the U.S. military, one topic bills only not 7000 page add ons no-one can read!
The system is broke reform it.
Both parties bring us to the dance then leave us standing in the corner while they dance with the rich girls and boys.
Reform D.C. like you did Alaska!
Run Sarah Run!
dhunter on July 22, 2009 at 9:55 AM
Portlandon:
Thanks for the research.
Hey, anybody seen Calwyn lately? Calwyn?
“Awwww. Poor wittle Jim is upset that I was right. Too bad he has nothing to contribute to the conversation other than sarcasm, or he’d be able to focus that energy on making an actual point.”
Calwyn? Was it something we said?
JackOkie on July 22, 2009 at 10:32 AM
It doesn’t get clearer than that
Noonan is a special type of RINO, she is a WHINO. A whining harpy Republican in Name only
By harpy I mean a harpoon carrying fisherman/woman who cruises the cold Alaskan waters seeking a whale named Sarah
It ain’t Moby Dick but it is as close as this scurilous age can come to Melville
entagor on July 22, 2009 at 10:38 AM
I told myself I wouldn’t post again, but decided to break my promise to reply to this:
My entire family supports Palin, and we range from holding Bachelors to Doctorate degrees:
Parents – Doctorate
Sister – Doctorate
Brother – Masters
Husband – Bachelors
Myself – Masters
Is this ENOUGH “education” for your taste? I am tired of seeing people like you perpetuating the assumption that those who support Palin HAVE to be complete idiots, as educated people would only be left-wing. How SMART does that make YOU???
As for myself, I focused on Literature, History, and Russian in college. I returned to study Finance, Accounting, and Economics. I’m also bilingual.
I’m angry because your comment is not only skirting an ad hominem, but it’s a complete STRAWMAN to a basic political fact (at least for the Right).
People support those with whom they agree, regardless of education.
вы понимаете? или вы идиот? я угадала бы идиот.
Miss_Anthrope on July 22, 2009 at 10:42 AM
I was thinking the same thing when I first read her column.
She is just losing it over Sarah like Ahab over Moby.
Sapwolf on July 22, 2009 at 10:57 AM
Counting on it.
Cindy Munford on July 22, 2009 at 11:01 AM
Can I toss my doctorate in physics on that Palin-supporter pile?
…of course, almost all of my colleagues voted for Obama (or even campaigned for him), but that’s a separate issue.
Count to 10 on July 22, 2009 at 11:07 AM
I was curious. I thought Sarah didn’t answer the question about reading magazines and newspapers because she gets her news from the net like I do and also from books.
Are there really people out there that fork out money for newspapers and magazines anymore other than to have something on the plane to read on the flight?
The weekly newsmagazines are not only leftist but late and irrelevant on just about everything.
I’ll admit I was very tempted to buy the Time magazine with Sarah when I saw it at the airport recently.
Sapwolf on July 22, 2009 at 11:08 AM
Two doctorates here (some people don’t know when to quit). I’m uncertain about Palin, but I certainly don’t discount her because she didn’t go to the “right” schools–I’m with Buckley on that.
Now, I’m basically (or perhaps barely) computer literate. How do you get your program to translate languages? I have no idea how to make mine do that.
DrMagnolias on July 22, 2009 at 11:11 AM
I dig that quote.
That was a great article…and for the guy who asked if anyone of an advanced degree supports Palin.
Here is some news…I will guarantee his life is better served by people who do not have degrees, then do.
The only areas where degrees mean anything is in Government jobs, and medical and engineering.
As someone famous once stated:
“The world is run by “C” students”
And as a family of four…2 doctorates, masters, and a bachelors…all Palin supporters.
But the best part, Palin knows that “degrees” don’t produce, hard working people produce.
right2bright on July 22, 2009 at 11:26 AM
Save your money, go to Barnes and Noble, buy one cup of coffee and read all the mags you want.
A cheap night out…
right2bright on July 22, 2009 at 11:28 AM
I am stealing that, maybe one change…
Whining Hopeless Republican in Name Only
Is that original, if so this fits most RINO’s better.
right2bright on July 22, 2009 at 11:31 AM
Yep. Noonan lives in a bubble. She even admitted to wanting to vote for Obama on MSNBC, that was the last straw for me. She resides in an pretensious area where Obama got 90% of the vote, she has no idea whatsoever of who and what we are. She offers nothing of value to the conservative movement.
I find her articles to be boring, snobbish and unsubstantive. She deserved a takedown, Schwartz did an excellent job in doing so.
Norwegian on July 22, 2009 at 12:13 PM
Quite as good as anything Noonan has written. Bravo.
thegreatbeast on July 22, 2009 at 12:15 PM
I think the bottom line is that all the elite inside the beltway types, whatever “side” they think they are on, are simply so out of touch with ordinary americans that they simply can’t relate, they don’t have any grasp on what normal everyday americans are thinking. its like asking a martian to commentate on a football game..there’s no frame of reference for them. They can’t draw a correct conclusion, and they become confused and then angry at the peasant class for being so dumb as to disagree with what is obviously true.
Its becoming clearer and clearer to this libertarian at least that Red vs Blue is a straw man…the real battle lines have been drawn and its us the ordinary americans against them, the media and the wanna be nobility…we tossed king george out on his powdered ass, and it appears its time for another go round.
johngalt on July 22, 2009 at 12:49 PM
I loved the last line of Schwartz’s truly terrific article.
I don’t mean to boast, but as far as being an outlier as a Palin supporter, I might be lying out the farthest of anyone here:
–BFA, Tisch School of the Arts, NYU
–13 years working in the film industry in NYC and LA
–currently doing graphic design in LA
I was spared liberal indoctrination in college because I avoided taking any history, economics, philosophy or social studies classes. I learned about those things as an open-minded autodidact (which I highly recommend because it’s cheaper, more rewarding and borne of independence), reading books reflecting many different views on those subjects and determining which made the most sense to me. Thus I emerged as a conservative.
I can count the people I know who share my political views on less than two hands but, unlike Noonan who was cowed into Obamanism because she couldn’t stand being left off invitation lists, I would rather spend time with genuine Americans like Sarah Palin than the shallow, self-important twits (I know because I’m surrounded by them) who flock to Obama like liberals to an immigration rally because it’s the cool thing to do.
One poster mentioned Palin dropping her g’s and I’m interested to know why everyone focuses on Palin doing so when Hillary and Obama did it all the time during the campaign. Obama still does it. The difference is, Hillary and Obama do it to condescend to whom they are speaking. Palin does not.
PoodleSkirt on July 22, 2009 at 12:57 PM
100% Agreed! It’s Time! Thats’ why I say third party Sarah. Throw the bums out and give the processes and the country back to the people.
Term Limit all even Judiciary!
Put constraints on the elites so they may never again so consolidate their power that they become a threat to the Republic!
dhunter on July 22, 2009 at 1:23 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jeYscnFpEyA
Watch this and decide to lead, follow or get the hell out of the way, but do not get run over again!
dhunter on July 22, 2009 at 1:49 PM
I’m in L.A. (well, Santa Monica) via NYU as well!
I hate when people focus on someone’s accent as an indication of their level of intelligence. It’s one of the few open prejudices people are still allowed (even encouraged in many cases) to have. As if there were something inherent in the dropping of g’s that is a sign of a brain defect as opposed to just simple sound variations (which happen in every language ever spoken).
JadeNYU on July 22, 2009 at 3:39 PM
The only people with whom Peggy still has credibility with are those who remember when she worked for Reagan. Those who have read what she has written before and after the election wonder at what point she became inhabited by an evil spirit. I’ve had it with effete snobs on both sides. Booggity, Booggity, Bitch!!!
wtng2fish on July 22, 2009 at 4:36 PM
It’s so nice to see all the highly-educated folks on here offering a realistic perspective about the value of a degree: they understand that it means you have a good knowledge of your particular field of study, but are not necessarily an expert in every area of life. I further appreciate the point that independent study and reading can create very educated, knowledgeable people. For me, I respect the intelligence and knowledge of people who demonstrate it; I don’t really care how they gained that knowledge. What Sarah Palin knows, she knows well, and what she doesn’t know, I believe she can learn based on what appears to be a keen intellectual curiosity.
Anyone else think there’s a new class system developing based around PERCEIVED intellectualism, as measured by education? Also, anyone read the studies that show how poor the civic knowledge of Ivy-League graduates tends to be?
Animator Girl on July 22, 2009 at 8:48 PM
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