Another poll shows Obama’s approval rating on health care below 50%
posted at 4:30 pm on July 21, 2009 by Allahpundit
Actually, it’s the same Gallup poll that I linked yesterday, but I didn’t realize at the time that this makes not one, not two, not three but four polls this month where Obama failed to crack 50 percent on his pet issue. Money quote:
“Obama’s support on health care is similiiar to the pattern that polls found for Bill Clinton in 1993,” says CNN Polling Director Keating Holland. “In April of 1993, a CNN/USA Today/Gallup poll found 51 percent of Americans who approved of how Clinton was handling health care policy. By August of that year, Clinton’s approval rating on health care had dropped to 44 percent.”
Even more ominous for The One, none of those four polls include the new data released today by Politico showing his credibility on this subject circling the drain:
In addition, more respondents said government-managed solutions would make the health care situation worse than said they would make it better or keep the situation the same.
Asked what effect a government-managed health care coverage option would have on access to health services, 40 percent said it would make the situation worse, 38 percent said it would make it better and 22 percent said it would remain the same. Asked what its effect would be on the quality of health care, 42 percent said it would make health care worse, 33 percent said it would make it better and 25 percent said it would not have an effect.
Nearly half of respondents — 44 percent — believe government-managed coverage will increase the price of health care. Only 27 percent think a government-managed health care system would lower costs, while 29 percent said prices would remain the same.
It’s not the 40+% of naysayers that are interesting — that can be chalked up to party-line Republican skepticism — but the anemic support in the high 20s or low 30s for cost savings and quality, proving that even Democrats are starting to detect an odor. Like I said yesterday, I think the stimulus did him in: You can’t bet that much dough on your economic forecasting skills, lose that badly, and then expect your fans to trust you to the same degree as before. No wonder his approval rating on the economy’s now in negative territory. Good luck tomorrow night, champ. You’ll need it.
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OOOH!
So sowwie Mistah Roboto!
blatantblue on July 21, 2009 at 4:32 PM
I may actually tune in tomorrow night just to listen to his desperation. And see how many of us he calls names!
JAM on July 21, 2009 at 4:33 PM
Howcome this is the only place I see these poll results?
Arggh!
redshirt on July 21, 2009 at 4:33 PM
Suffice it to say, tomorrow night won’t be the most enchanting thing he’s seen since he’s been in office?
lorien1973 on July 21, 2009 at 4:33 PM
Tomorrow night is going to be a totally
EPIC
UNCANNY
fail
blatantblue on July 21, 2009 at 4:34 PM
So?
Obama has risen above polls. He’s sort of god.
MadisonConservative on July 21, 2009 at 4:34 PM
I blame this on TOTUS. Selfish bastard taking his own life….
BPD on July 21, 2009 at 4:34 PM
He was signed up for ObamaCare. He was at end of warranty. There were no other options.
lorien1973 on July 21, 2009 at 4:35 PM
No matter what, this will render this clown a lame duck.
If he manages to pass this pile of dung, it will stink so bad and cost so much, he’s finished.
If he doesn’t pass it, he’s hopelessly crippled and impotent. Congress will ignore him as the Democrats look towards the mid-terms.
Obama won’t even run for re-election, I’m thinking. Maybe Hillary played her cards right.
NoDonkey on July 21, 2009 at 4:35 PM
One drawback for the Democrats of having the MSM carry their water is that they believe their own spin and press clippings.
People didn’t want government health care back in 1993; they don’t want it now, either.
BigD on July 21, 2009 at 4:35 PM
Please, please …
Don’t anyone give me song lyrics to go with this post.
BigD on July 21, 2009 at 4:36 PM
just wait everyone—Allah’s having a cigarette after hearing about new Palin ethics breach charges, so gird your bloggy loins for day of it.
I_C on July 21, 2009 at 4:36 PM
Can’t watch or listen to Bozo so I hope there will be some coverage on HA.
txag92 on July 21, 2009 at 4:37 PM
the best part is that the opposition has been found primarily in the blogosphere, talk radio, and to a lesser extent the GOP. This in the face of the media and the democrat money groups.
rob verdi on July 21, 2009 at 4:37 PM
I agree with the others, these poll numbers make the Wednesday night presser almost watchable.
myrenovations on July 21, 2009 at 4:38 PM
FIFY dude
ted c on July 21, 2009 at 4:38 PM
FIFY
farright on July 21, 2009 at 4:38 PM
Shouldn’t the subtitle be: More of the same (as opposed to change)? Polls-for at least a week-have been showing opposition to his health care plan-thus, it’s not really ‘change’ as it is, ‘more of the same’.
Yes, I’m a semantics whore. Shot me.
LiquidH2O on July 21, 2009 at 4:38 PM
It’s quite clear what people envision (and support) when they hear “Universal Health Care”.
They think it means: You go to the doctor, and the bill gets paid by the government. Who wouldn’t support that?
But, once the details begin to emerge, and the heavy hand of state control becomes evident, the support drops. Drammtically.
Utopia….merely a state of mind.
BobMbx on July 21, 2009 at 4:39 PM
//sarc
ted c on July 21, 2009 at 4:39 PM
Time to call Joe the Plumber.
Geochelone on July 21, 2009 at 4:40 PM
Fail.
HornetSting on July 21, 2009 at 4:40 PM
Now THAT is change I can believe in.
NoFanofLibs on July 21, 2009 at 4:40 PM
“There were no polls in the Soviet Union. Not that this is all about me, it isn’t. But, this just isn’t fair to me.”
- Barack Obama.
OhEssYouCowboys on July 21, 2009 at 4:40 PM
I like it when you call him champ.
BadgerHawk on July 21, 2009 at 4:41 PM
$10 says he sheds a tear tomorrow night on television. His charm won’t get this bill passed, he may resort to pity. Our little theater major is well-schooled in the art of drama.
sherry on July 21, 2009 at 4:41 PM
“And I would have gotten away with it too if it weren’t for those meddlesome right-wingers!”
beatcanvas on July 21, 2009 at 4:41 PM
I can’t stand listening to him, except on Rush’s show. He has him on chipmunk speed to show that Obama is in a hurry. Love that Rush. Theh only words I want to hear him say is “goodbye”.
suzyk on July 21, 2009 at 4:42 PM
It cannot be strong republican objections that lead to forty percent negative numbers since the polling is so skewed to democraps and independents, republicans even at 100 percent negative would only poll out at around 25 percent negative on those questions. Thus independents must be at least fifty percent against and democraps in the forties against to get these kinds of hopey change numbers.
eaglewingz08 on July 21, 2009 at 4:42 PM
What’s also so great is that GenY helped elect this doofus b/c he was like, so awesome! And now they cannot even be bothered to write or call their Congress critter in support. That’s the problem w/the youth vote…it becomes disinterested and it’s on to the next hook-up already!
JAM on July 21, 2009 at 4:43 PM
Shorter eagle:
A whole lot of folks who voted for The One have changed their minds.
A day late and $1.6T short.
BobMbx on July 21, 2009 at 4:44 PM
I really can’t wait for that last helicopter ride on Marine One.
—or frogmarching
ted c on July 21, 2009 at 4:44 PM
I can’t stand listening to him, except on Rush’s show. He has him on chipmunk speed to show that Obama is in a hurry. Love that Rush. Theh only words I want to hear him say is “goodbye”.
suzyk on July 21, 2009 at 4:42 PM
I agree. If the presser tomorrow was in chipmunk speed, I might tune in.
txag92 on July 21, 2009 at 4:45 PM
They really need to work on their weighting…….
Vashta.Nerada on July 21, 2009 at 4:45 PM
I would love to be a fly on the wall when he talks to Soros b4 his speech tomorrow night…
JAM on July 21, 2009 at 4:46 PM
Well, it’s a good thing you’re a semantics whore because you’re certainly not a spelling or grammar whore…
:)
mjk on July 21, 2009 at 4:46 PM
I wonder if they will still be into the hopeynchangy crap when they find out that they will have to buy insurance or be fined.
farright on July 21, 2009 at 4:46 PM
I totally agree. Does anyone ever recall a POTUS being on TV, on your radio, in your face every single day of your life? Makes me sick.
Key West Reader on July 21, 2009 at 4:46 PM
I’d settle for another historic first:
First President to vanish from office, only to be found years later in a South Chicago soup kitchen.
BobMbx on July 21, 2009 at 4:47 PM
Did the stimulus save us? That’s just a lot of money, and we’ll make more. But people see it’s a failure. It’s made them look closer at the health plan. That is a much bigger threat than the stimulous. It’s not just wasted money, but bad structure we will not be able to get rid of.
exception on July 21, 2009 at 4:48 PM
Me too. I’m really looking forward to the expression on Michelle’s face as she strolls across the lawn for the last time. Small children will have to look away.
sherry on July 21, 2009 at 4:48 PM
+1
I could use a shot too.
exception on July 21, 2009 at 4:48 PM
I vote for frogmarching unless the chopper ride is to GITMO.
farright on July 21, 2009 at 4:49 PM
The numbers for the ObamaCare infomercial will be low. Surely the populace has tired of his 24 hour media carnival.
ROCnPhilly on July 21, 2009 at 4:49 PM
Will be great if Fox’s “So you think you can dance” beats him. I do know dems who are not anxious to watch him on tv anymore.
JiangxiDad on July 21, 2009 at 4:50 PM
I thought the same thing…plus, it’s always easy to make a drinking game out of his speeches…just pick a phrase, any phrase…
ladyingray on July 21, 2009 at 4:50 PM
That’s the best part of the whole she-bang. It’s the same as those pot-smoking morons who were suddenly Middle East and foreign policy experts because Barack Obama was going to be the bestest thing ever. With absolutely no empirical evidence to back it up.
Those pathetic drones can’t even be bothered to understand their votes had this consequence and they’ll be paying for it the rest of their natural lives.
mjk on July 21, 2009 at 4:50 PM
Stroll? It’ll be more like the “stuff the angry black woman into the backseat of the police cruiser” episode of COPS.
BobMbx on July 21, 2009 at 4:50 PM
Tomorrow he blames “politics as usual” and quotes the “Waterloo” quote.
He will try to win, by dividing…it worked for his campaign, it won’t work now.
The numbers don’t lie…it is a loser.
I am happy to say, I really feel we may now be looking at what will be his best polls…from here on they are going down.
The ONE, is becoming a number two.
right2bright on July 21, 2009 at 4:50 PM
UPDATE; Obama has rubber gloves and KY jelly delivered to Oval Office; Invites Congress over for “examination” of healthcare plans.
Cybergeezer on July 21, 2009 at 4:51 PM
B-b-b-but HE QUOTES NIEBUHR!!!
CDeb on July 21, 2009 at 4:51 PM
A “pet issue” he has neither read, nor would he subject his own family too. Steele’s speech on this issue yesterday was on the mark.
Anyways, his presser tomorrow is going to upset me, I can tell already. The press isn’t going to ask him anything substantial, vital, serious, or pressing. It’s going to be an hour of talking points attempting to convince us (the American people) that we shouldn’t trust our own logic and instincts-we should trust HIS. Because he’s the “government” and he’s here to help.
LiquidH2O on July 21, 2009 at 4:52 PM
Interesting about those low numbers on issues. I bet the Dems drop the talking point about Republicans offer “same old tax cuts” and other failed solutions etc. I am thinking some of those tax cuts are starting to look mighty appealing about now.
msmveritas on July 21, 2009 at 4:52 PM
Only if Jake Tapper (or someone else with a pair) calls Obama out on national television.
VibrioCocci on July 21, 2009 at 4:53 PM
Toting as many White House artifacts as see can carry away.
HoustonRight on July 21, 2009 at 4:53 PM
Change I can finally believe in!
CynicalOptimist on July 21, 2009 at 4:53 PM
No, I’m not.
LiquidH2O on July 21, 2009 at 4:55 PM
Will be great if Fox’s “So you think you can dance” beats him. I do know dems who are not anxious to watch him on tv anymore.
JiangxiDad on July 21, 2009 at 4:50 PM
Let me be clear, I’d rather watch talented dancers than Bozo dance around the subject.
txag92 on July 21, 2009 at 4:55 PM
mjk on July 21, 2009 at 4:46 PM
ROTFLMAO!
txag92 on July 21, 2009 at 4:56 PM
Toting as many White House artifacts as see can carry away.
HoustonRight on July 21, 2009 at 4:53 PM
Hillary will help him carry out the loot. She has experience, you know.
txag92 on July 21, 2009 at 4:57 PM
That’s funny, I just got the tie in.
So you think you can Dance…
Fox’s version or Obama’s…
right2bright on July 21, 2009 at 4:57 PM
Now that’s funny.
HoustonRight on July 21, 2009 at 5:00 PM
B-b-but...
WPalinDeMint?!?LastRick on July 21, 2009 at 5:00 PM
AAHCA/Obamacare
End of life care and decision making authority, pages; 425-426-427….. Ohhh goody!
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1 ‘‘(FF) advance care planning consultation (as
2 defined in subsection (hhh)(1));’’; and
3 (B) by adding at the end the following new
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5 ‘‘Advance Care Planning Consultation
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7 term ‘advance care planning consultation’ means a con8
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10 if, subject to paragraph (3), the individual involved has
11 not had such a consultation within the last 5 years. Such
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vance care planning, including key questions and
15 considerations, important steps, and suggested peo16
ple to talk to.
17 ‘‘(B) An explanation by the practitioner of ad18
vance directives, including living wills and durable
19 powers of attorney, and their uses.
20 ‘‘(C) An explanation by the practitioner of the
21 role and responsibilities of a health care proxy.
22 ‘‘(D) The provision by the practitioner of a list
23 of national and State-specific resources to assist con24
sumers and their families with advance care plan25
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Archimedes on July 21, 2009 at 5:02 PM
The plumber was already called. He said the problem with the drain was redistribution, yet the homeowner didn’t want to fix it – in fact, Joe was lampooned, harassed, heckled…
He can now join the chorus of ‘I told you so’.
turfmann on July 21, 2009 at 5:02 PM
The tea party patriots are striking out in several areas. The politicians are starting to face some irate folks on their home turf. Got a kick out of this one for cap&tax voter Mike Castle of Delaware. Delaware!!! Not exactly a red state. But they interrupted his town hall meeting to say the Pledge of Allegiance and yelled at him to at least look into Obama’s non-citizenship.
This the beginning folks. Keep the pressure on. Stand up and be heard.
Christian Conservative on July 21, 2009 at 5:02 PM
That sorry socialist aberration of a health care plan belongs in negative numbers.
rplat on July 21, 2009 at 5:04 PM
When will someone ask The One the question we are all wanting answered…with bated breath…if this Obamacare is so wonderful, why aren’t all Federal Employees, including the President and his fair Lady and family, going to be required to also be on it???
marybel on July 21, 2009 at 5:08 PM
First question tomorrow night:
“Mr. President, most Americans believe the Republicans are opposing your health care plan because they think losing this can ‘break you’ as one Republican Congressman said. Most Americans believe the Republicans don’t care about their health care and only want to embarrass you, while they believe YOU care about them and want to provide affordable health care. How do you respond to that, Mr. President?”
Second question tomorrow night:
“Mr. President, your poll numbers have gone down a bit in the past few weeks. You’ve always said you weren’t interested in polls, only in doing what’s right for working American families — even if it costs you a few points of popularity. Do you still feel that way?”
Third question:
“Mr. President, you told the American people months ago that recovery from the 8-year-long Bush economic disaster would take time. Why do you think some people are suggesting the stimulus isn’t working when all along you said it would take time to recover from the 8-year-long Bush economic disaster?”
Fourth question:
“Mr. President, I forget. Do you prefer if I swallow or discreetly spit over here into this little tissue?”
Rational Thought on July 21, 2009 at 5:08 PM
Perriellos district had a packed house for a health care forum TEA Party last night. PACKED and involved in this issue.
ted c on July 21, 2009 at 5:08 PM
Wow. All these provisions to ensure the doctors explain how best you can die; and then ending with the DOCTOR deciding if they’ll keep you alive or not. Peachy.
LiquidH2O on July 21, 2009 at 5:10 PM
I don’t think I could watch him even for a drinking game. He disgusts me that much.
Daggett on July 21, 2009 at 5:10 PM
ladyingray;
strawman argument–drink a whole beer. You’ll be on the floor before minute 3
ted c on July 21, 2009 at 5:11 PM
All we can hope for at this point is that a large number of Dems vote against the House bill, probably next week.
patrick neid on July 21, 2009 at 5:15 PM
Christian Conservative on July 21, 2009 at 5:02 PM
Other citizen surprises for our elitist politicans:
Here’s one via Rush’s website with Kathleen Sebelius in Lousiana.
“It will be a cold day in hell before he socializes my country!”
And another from via Rush with Senator Cardin IN MARYLAND!
I’m healthy and I choose not to pay for health insurance and you’re going to penalize me thousands of dollars for that??
The MSM can’t ignore this forever! We want our country back!
Christian Conservative on July 21, 2009 at 5:16 PM
I’m enjoying watching Obama crash and burn. Anyone else enjoying watching Obama crash and burn?
amerpundit on July 21, 2009 at 5:16 PM
Let me see if I’ve got this straight. An african born american president that
can’t produce a birth certificate, an academic record or anything published before editing the Harvard Law Review, wants to put his government in charge
of this nation’s healthcare industry. And he wants to do this before the plan is finished not to mention read, incurring incalculable debt with no funding. This will come on the heels of The Stinkulus Package that has only indebted us to China without creating any jobs or stemming the recession. AND HE’S IN A HURRY? What could go wrong? The boldness of this fraud blows my mind.
ontherocks on July 21, 2009 at 5:16 PM
One beer will put me on the floor?
ladyingray on July 21, 2009 at 5:17 PM
Prophetic Joe Biden. He knew it would all come crashing down around Obama once his teleprompter broke.
canditaylor68 on July 21, 2009 at 5:18 PM
I’ll probably watch Fox’s So You Think You Can Dance anyway…since they aren’t going to carry the presser, I feel it’s the least I can do…
ladyingray on July 21, 2009 at 5:18 PM
Took my wife and kids out to dinner last night to celebrate, for real. Hope it wasn’t premature.
OT: Very funny from CBS radio Wh corresp. Mark Knoller
JiangxiDad on July 21, 2009 at 5:19 PM
I’ll probably watch Fox’s So You Think You Can Dance anyway…since they aren’t going to carry the presser, I feel it’s the least I can do…
ladyingray on July 21, 2009 at 5:18 PM
I’ll also be watching. :)
txag92 on July 21, 2009 at 5:19 PM
Didn’t he just demand that they pass this piece of crap before summer recess? He’s starting to sound silly.
Blake on July 21, 2009 at 5:20 PM
I’m enjoying watching Obama crash and burn. Anyone else enjoying watching Obama crash and burn?
amerpundit on July 21, 2009 at 5:16 PM
Gleefully raises hand!
txag92 on July 21, 2009 at 5:20 PM
I’m enjoying watching Obama crash and burn. Anyone else enjoying watching Obama crash and burn?
amerpundit on July 21, 2009 at 5:16 PM
Gleefully raises hand!
txag92 on July 21, 2009 at 5:20 PM
So am I.
ladyingray on July 21, 2009 at 5:21 PM
So am I.
ladyingray on July 21, 2009 at 5:21 PM
Clifford raised his paw.
txag92 on July 21, 2009 at 5:22 PM
I’d be enjoying more the increase in freedom and liberty in this country rather than bear witness to the loss of it.
ted c on July 21, 2009 at 5:22 PM
youbetcha
MCW on July 21, 2009 at 5:22 PM
Talkin’s over, you racist haters, it’s time for action and to get this scheme passed.
Blah blah blah, yack yack yack, it’s all you crackers do; meanwhile the President is trying to rescue America from itself.
Bishop on July 21, 2009 at 5:24 PM
Talkin’s over, you racist haters, it’s time for action and to get this scheme passed.
Blah blah blah, yack yack yack, it’s all you crackers do; meanwhile the President is trying to rescue America from itself.
Bishop on July 21, 2009 at 5:24 PM
I’m a racist. You’re a racist. Don’tcha want to be a racist too? Be a racist, drink Dr. Cracker.
txag92 on July 21, 2009 at 5:26 PM
This must be why Yahoo is still running that headline about the headaches the Bush twins gave the Secret Service.
cheesebiz on July 21, 2009 at 5:27 PM
He hasn’t crashed and burned yet. I’m still worried that he’ll pull enough strings to get this crap sandwich passed. I hope not.
Daggett on July 21, 2009 at 5:27 PM
While I enjoy the negative polls, don’t celebrate yet. The House passed Waxman-Markey, due to vote buying and strong arming. This thing is going to get passed, just watch and see. It will be done before they go on break in August. Obambi has a very good, smooth devious bast@rd working for him in Rahm Emmanuel.
Sorry guys but after seeing the GM take over, Porkulus, and Waxman Markey, I have no illusions of hope.
catlady on July 21, 2009 at 5:29 PM
ReparationsHealth care will be passed!SouthernGent on July 21, 2009 at 5:30 PM
If Obama fails to get this to pass, I’m afraid he will just keep trying. If by chance it really does die for good, can you imagine how pissed off he will be at the American people?
He’ll make us all sit in the corner.
He’ll raise taxes on everybody 5000%!!!!
He’ll sic the first lady on us to frighten our children.
Blake on July 21, 2009 at 5:31 PM
Is Michelle back to being un-proud of her country?
Thunderstorm129 on July 21, 2009 at 5:32 PM
I’m enjoying watching Obama crash and burn. Anyone else enjoying watching Obama crash and burn?
amerpundit on July 21, 2009 at 5:16 PM
He hasn’t crashed and burned yet. I’m still worried that he’ll pull enough strings to get this crap sandwich passed. I hope not.
Daggett on July 21, 2009 at 5:27 PM
And that ACORN & Co don’t pervert the system to the point where the election gets rigged. Obama hasn’t had a problem with Zelaya’s rigging his survey/referendum in advance, and his weak response to AckMyDumbJihad’s repressive tactics in Iran.
Archimedes on July 21, 2009 at 5:32 PM
Yep. It’s also why the media is hyping up the “birther” controversy. They are trying to make Republicans look like nutjobs.
I am staying at a resort in Palm Springs with my family this week. I passed one TV in a bar that was on CNN and it was running a story on the “birthers”. Then, I come into our room, flip the channels and see that Chrissy on MSNBC is running a story on the “birthers”.
In the midst of debating the most controversial and contentious bill in a long time, CNN and MSNBC are devoting an awful lot of time to a handful of people waving birth certificates. It is such a transparent attempt to change the subject and discredit Republicans.
JohnInCA on July 21, 2009 at 5:33 PM
But we haven’t given him enough of a chance. John Cole said so.
Jim Treacher on July 21, 2009 at 5:36 PM
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