Video: Mythbusters on Mooner-conspiracies; Update: Surprise — Whoopi’s a conspiracy theorist
posted at 3:15 pm on July 20, 2009 by Ed Morrissey
Think of the Moon-landing hoax conspiracy theorists as the original Truthers, 32 years before 9/11. No matter how much scientific evidence one supplies, no matter how many times the debunkers debunk, they will insist that the entire space program took place on a sound stage in Hollywood. CNN interviews the hosts of Mythbusters, who have supplied their own efforts in what will almost certainly be a futile effort to put an end to the Mooners:
Mythbusters has a sneak peek of their Mooner episode on their website. It airs tonight at 9 pm ET. I look forward to seeing it, although one of the best debunkings of the panoply of Mooner lunacy (pun intended) came eight years ago at Bad Astronomy. Fox had aired a prime-time special in February 2001 allowing the nutcases to spin their theories, including the particularly loathesome allegation that NASA killed Gus Grissom, Roger Chafee, and Ed White in the Apollo I fire because Grissom was going to spill the beans on the conspiracy. Phil Plait rips Fox for airing the episode and points out all of the scientific and logical flaws in the arguments presented.
As the two Mythbusters point out, believing in this theory would require that everyone in the program lied about it, continues to lie about it, and that the pictures taken of the lunar surface to this day are faked by an entire new generation of scientists and engineers. It besmirches the honor of thousands of people who worked to get these men to the Moon, as well as those who died in that journey like Grissom, Chafee, and White.
Buzz Aldrin got confronted by a Mooner not long ago, and while we at Hot Air do not condone violence in debates, suffice it to say that Aldrin will never go hungry or thirsty in the Twin Cities as long as I’m here:
Update (AP): As if to prove Ed’s point about the relationship between lunar conspiracy theorists and Truthers, here’s how the idiot who replaced Rosie O’Donnell on “The View” celebrated Apollo 11′s anniversary.










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If I hear one more idiot who says
America never went to the moon!!!
canopfor on July 20, 2009 at 3:17 PM
Dude. It’s called a “robust debate” a la Obama.
lorien1973 on July 20, 2009 at 3:18 PM
Love me some MythBusters.
Abby Adams on July 20, 2009 at 3:18 PM
Yea
The guy at the bar telling me the moon landing was faked comes to mind
People are just insane
Get a little alcohol in them and they never STFU
blatantblue on July 20, 2009 at 3:18 PM
That Buzz Aldrin clip is classic.
BadgerHawk on July 20, 2009 at 3:19 PM
who still watches ‘the view’?
cmsinaz on July 20, 2009 at 3:19 PM
Good, I always watch Mythbusters. This one should be good. It is so much better than watching nbc, cbs, abc, which I never watch.
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letget on July 20, 2009 at 3:20 PM
Their irrationality is only eclipsed by their lunacy.
ICBM on July 20, 2009 at 3:20 PM
nice right hook, buzz!
seriously, check out the guy’s footwork. he knows how to punch. ;-)
homesickamerican on July 20, 2009 at 3:20 PM
Moon Moonbats,el wacko lunar lunatics running amuck
amongst the stars,and the stars are swirling in their
own minds,me thinks!!
canopfor on July 20, 2009 at 3:21 PM
The lack of “view” clips recently really makes me question whether or not AP had a crush on Rosie.
lorien1973 on July 20, 2009 at 3:22 PM
I’d like to know what Ron Paul has to say about this before I comment.
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Vashta.Nerada on July 20, 2009 at 3:22 PM
There’s one obvious evidence that the Moon landing is true, Soviet would have had a field day to prove it a hoax.
They went so far as they kept their own moon landing project secret to not admit they got beaten.
the_nile on July 20, 2009 at 3:22 PM
Always like the Buzz video.
Uh yeah Whoopi, its called a tripod, look into it.
uniclone on July 20, 2009 at 3:23 PM
Obamacare: His first Shovel-ready project
bury that damn thing.
ted c on July 20, 2009 at 3:24 PM
Buzz won on K.O.
the_nile on July 20, 2009 at 3:25 PM
Hahaha! I laugh every single time I see that Buzz Aldrin clip. He didn’t even hesitate once that tool called him a coward and a liar. I wish I could see what happened afterwards. Our culture used to be so different as little as 30 years ago….insult someone and you got in a fight, simple as that.
Mord on July 20, 2009 at 3:25 PM
Someone needs to go all Techno Viking on Whoopi sometime.
bluelightbrigade on July 20, 2009 at 3:26 PM
beautiful short right by Buzz…’your a liar, and a coward and….boffo” i hope the guys was spiting chicklets after that.
and oh by the way…if we faked the first moon landing, why did we have to fake 6 more missions?
DrW on July 20, 2009 at 3:26 PM
Aldren makes me twice as proud to be an American.
Laura in Maryland on July 20, 2009 at 3:27 PM
Building stuff and blowing it up, an enginereing dream job.
WashJeff on July 20, 2009 at 3:27 PM
Ha… someone finally told the folks over at Google that the Moon landing is kid of a big deal.
They finally updated their logo.
Abby Adams on July 20, 2009 at 3:27 PM
I loved Mythbusters so, so much…
…until I read this.
What a dick.
MadisonConservative on July 20, 2009 at 3:28 PM
Google is some kind of lefty paradise, isn’t it?
Vashta.Nerada on July 20, 2009 at 3:29 PM
Update,Whoopi’s a Lunar Lunatic!
Well,that just rounds out Whoopi’s world view!!
canopfor on July 20, 2009 at 3:29 PM
Of course it’s lunacy. The questions is, is it lunacy?
davidk on July 20, 2009 at 3:30 PM
I won’t believe that we landed on the moon, until the public schools are teaching the tots that an “african-american” was the first to land.
It won’t be long, and I’ll be a believer.
OhEssYouCowboys on July 20, 2009 at 3:31 PM
Telescopes can actually see the science packages the astronauts left on the moon that we actually built. Strangely enough our science package named CPLEE studied the solar wind, you know that bog yellow thing in the sky that controls earth’s weather?
tarpon on July 20, 2009 at 3:31 PM
I love all conspiracy theories involving the government. The statistical possibility of the number of people that whould be involved in that “secret” added to the press is mind boggling. These people are not logical.
Cindy Munford on July 20, 2009 at 3:31 PM
The simple fact that Myth Busters was able to replicate most stuff on an earth based TV set pretty much proves that it was all done on a TV set. Just common since would dicktate that they would not been able to so easily duplucate the moon stuff on a TV set if it was really done on the moon.
jmarcure on July 20, 2009 at 3:32 PM
And by “we” you mean the management of course… right?
Because I’m sure that would be debatable in the peanut gallery.
Diogenes of Sinope on July 20, 2009 at 3:32 PM
Wow…young dumb-ass gets clocked cleaned by old dude. That’s embarrassing.
Wyznowski on July 20, 2009 at 3:33 PM
Can’t wait for the faked Mars landing.
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JammieWearingFool on July 20, 2009 at 3:33 PM
To this day????
There is something seriously wrong with Whoopi and all those other deniers.
Worse, there’s something more seriously wrong with media execs who put these people on the air.
Hollywood needs a change. How about ditching the idea of contracts and taking on workplace rules like every other job in America?
Do your job and be on your best game as an employee or lose your position, either by demotion or dismissal.
I like how Whoopi played her role in ST-NG, but she’s so messed up now she needs to be cast into the dustbin of history unless she returns to the real world.
How about this, doing things as libs do: This matter is so serious the show needs to be canceled because the charges alone warrant cancellation.
Like among libs, we don’t need proof. We need only accusation.
Liam on July 20, 2009 at 3:33 PM
FIRE CAN’T MELT STEEL!!! /s
tee hee.
bitsy on July 20, 2009 at 3:36 PM
Tonights’ airing isn’t the first time Mythbusters aired this special; I watched the show about 1 1/2 months ago. it was great, they went the whole nine yards… Adam in a spacesuit, etc. Definitely worth while to watch. (as Mythbusters always is)
dalewalt on July 20, 2009 at 3:36 PM
Like most people he just doesn’t understand the real debate. Maybe he got a clue and backed off.
jmarcure on July 20, 2009 at 3:37 PM
It must be an education thingy with the Left,
revisionist history and all,like Obama time zero,
or Al Gore,the creator of the internet!
canopfor on July 20, 2009 at 3:37 PM
I’d be very much interested in hearing Whoopi’s dissertation on the existence of Black Holes.
The “A” variety, of course.
fogw on July 20, 2009 at 3:37 PM
I don’t know about the violence thing Ed,more like a thing of beauty.
oldernwiser on July 20, 2009 at 3:37 PM
Love it when a REAL MAN with the bravery and clankers Buzz has puts a limp-wristed pansy Obama voter in his place!
Classic indeed…Buzz is da man!
Liberty or Death on July 20, 2009 at 3:38 PM
Yeah, arguing about whether or not the moon shots really happened is an ultimately important endeavor. Really.
NASA was in the habit of sending people up on really, really big rockets, then putting them on ice for a while until they could splash down in the ocean in a capsule and exit that capsule on live TV.
All that effort and expense launching titan missiles into space with people aboard no less, on top of looking bad when one of the missions nearly ended halfway to the moon…all for what exactly?
If you want to play the conspiracy game, play it using what obambi plans for this country….and learn how to goose-step properly.
Spiritk9 on July 20, 2009 at 3:38 PM
See Alinsky, Saul via Obama, Barack – ‘Get in their faces.’
TinMan13 on July 20, 2009 at 3:39 PM
I don’t think anyone seriously doubts we went to the moon. A lot of what Nasa has done since then has been dubious, so I think they love defending the moon landing and if no moon skeptics existed, they would search high and low looking for one.
I think the Mythbusters should turn their attention to Global Warming. They will find that Nasa won’t make themselves quite as available to those queries as they are for the moon landing.
Did we ever get a formal report on the “water” they found on Mars?
Buddahpundit on July 20, 2009 at 3:39 PM
He didn’t see that one coming. I wonder if he, softly, sobbed afterward?
DFCtomm on July 20, 2009 at 3:39 PM
It would be very difficult to fake, because they’d have to build a huge statue of Elvis just like the one that’s already on Mars.
Daggett on July 20, 2009 at 3:40 PM
Obama told us to get in people’s faces.
SouthernGent on July 20, 2009 at 3:40 PM
Buzz: “I got your coward right here.”
davidk on July 20, 2009 at 3:40 PM
I say start the Moon project up again and send Obama, Biden, Pelosi and Reid on the first mission with a one-way ticket.
To tha Moon Alice!!!!
saltydogg14 on July 20, 2009 at 3:41 PM
Not to mention the Apollo 13 mission, after an onboard explosion caused Mission Control to abort the lunar landing to have a better chance of bringing the astronauts home safely, after some major technical scrambling and seat-of-the-pants improvisation. If this was all a hoax, wouldn’t NASA have faked a successful landing, instead of publicly admitting failure on the third attempt, then making a movie about it?
Steve Z on July 20, 2009 at 3:41 PM
Heh. Hoopi Goldberger’s a conspiracy theorist. Eh…..she’s also an idiot. What else is new.
NathanG on July 20, 2009 at 3:41 PM
In fairness to the current administration, neither Obama, Biden, or Hillary has formally apologized for past moon-related terrorism efforts and/or issued formal apologia for transgressing upon moon terra firma in an openly hostile way and stealing moon rocks in apparent wrongful way so perhaps it was all a myth that the current administration engaged in…
IntheNet on July 20, 2009 at 3:41 PM
ALICE!!! ALICE!!!!
One of these days …. it’s gonna be POW … straight to the moon!!
StimulateTHIS on July 20, 2009 at 3:42 PM
I love that Buzz punch! Nice… I like the cut of your jib, Buzz.
Claypigeon on July 20, 2009 at 3:42 PM
Who cares what someone named Whoopi has to say about anything.
I know some of these conspiracy freaks and it boggles the mind how dumb some people are. I think the most convincing argument is that the Soviets would have happily exposed America’s great achievement as a lie if there were any doubts about the veracity of the landing. They had the technology to track what happened. If it was all faked… why didn’t they expose it?
lexhamfox on July 20, 2009 at 3:42 PM
In fairness to the current administration, neither Obama, Biden, or Hillary has formally apologized for past moon-related terrorism efforts and/or issued formal apologia for transgressing upon moon terra firma in an openly hostile way and stealing moon rocks in apparent wrongful way so perhaps it was all a myth that the former administration engaged in…
IntheNet on July 20, 2009 at 3:42 PM
This would be more fun:
My goal this year is to prove free markets and free people are best for society on the show. It’s gonna take a while, it’s gonna be very hard to make it fascinating on film in the context of our narrative structure, but I figure screw it. The sky’s the limit. Let’s do freedom. I’m sick of fifty percent of this country thinking socialism is reasonable. It’s appalling. And I have the unique ability, maybe, to sell this idea to Discovery, and they’ll, they might allow me to do it, and I’m gonna try as hard as I can.
—Adam Savage
WashJeff on July 20, 2009 at 3:42 PM
I can’t wait for the fake UFO’s hustling aliens across the universe to land under the guise of “secret” AirForce technology!
SouthernGent on July 20, 2009 at 3:42 PM
Mythbusters is one of the best shows on T.V.
That Buzz video is great. I would have loved to see that smarmy little punk’s reaction after Buzz tagged him one.
RedNewEnglander on July 20, 2009 at 3:43 PM
So when will the Mythbusters find out who really killed John F. Kennedy in 1963? Or is he still living with Adolf Hitler in Argentina?
Steve Z on July 20, 2009 at 3:43 PM
I doubt that the dumb-ass ever even considered that he would be attacked. More then likely he would have been ignored or engaged in debate which was his goal. A friend of mine had dinner with Col. Aldrin right after that incident and said he was pretty surprised the Col didn’t continue to pound on the guy. I guess he is a pretty tough dude that takes no crap from anyone.
jmarcure on July 20, 2009 at 3:44 PM
Whoopie Goldberg is named after a fart cushion, which in her case is perfect. She’s the poster child for a never-was, never-will-be relevant person. Why anyone would watch The View is beyond me. I’d rather go to the dentist.
bradley11 on July 20, 2009 at 3:44 PM
saltydogg14 on July 20, 2009 at 3:41 PM
Can we deny them spacesuits?
Please say ‘yes’!
Liam on July 20, 2009 at 3:44 PM
Yep, I’d be proud to buy Buzz a beer. Heck, I’d be proud to buy him a beer just because he goes by the name of “Buzz,” and “Buzz Aldren” just sounds cool. But seeing that (again) reminds me that the first two drinks are on me.
crazy_legs on July 20, 2009 at 3:44 PM
I agree, but for a different reason. Savage shot his mouth off (figuratively speaking) with glee on Twitter when Governor Palin resigned.
SHUT UP AND
SINGMAKE TELEVISION!As for the creationism thing, the Mythbusters are not particularly good at biology-based “experiments.” I doubt they (Savage, in particular, who has very little intellectual discipline) have the chops to do a convincing job of explaining evolution.
Y-not on July 20, 2009 at 3:44 PM
I say lets go to the moon again
blatantblue on July 20, 2009 at 3:45 PM
Think about that though… he wants to confirm a myth…
Skywise on July 20, 2009 at 3:46 PM
I reject your reality and substitute my own.
-Adam Savage
BohicaTwentyTwo on July 20, 2009 at 3:47 PM
There was a great show on the History channel about this. I think it was done by some British production company. It concluded that it was more then likely there were no other shooters and no cover ups. Like the MBs they were able to recreate pretty much everything including the “magic bullet”.
jmarcure on July 20, 2009 at 3:47 PM
Are they doing a new “Moon Theories” episode?
One was aired earlier this year that took aim at many of these conspiracy theories.
MarkTheGreat on July 20, 2009 at 3:50 PM
Yes Buzz is not only one tough dude he’s gotta have some big brass ones too. After all he strapped himself on to a rocket full of highly volatile materials putting out MILLIONS of horse power, that in of itself takes clankers, something that candy-azzed idiot that Buzz clocked obviously doesn’t have!
Liberty or Death on July 20, 2009 at 3:52 PM
He thinks that there needs to be a full hearing of the charges. He’d like more time to study this.
He also doesn’t think the government belongs in space, since the word moon doesn’t appear in the constitution.
And, we should legalize pot.
massrighty on July 20, 2009 at 3:53 PM
Fake moon landings revealed
hpb on July 20, 2009 at 3:53 PM
Here’s how dumb conspiracy theorists tend to be.
NASA had, at the time, some of the brightest minds working for them. They had access to what I would assume was, at minimum, tens of millions of dollars and the most advanced technology you could get your hands on.
Knowing all of that, how likely would it be that they made massive flubs in their “fake” landing? Wouldn’t even the dumbest guy on the soundstage have said, “guys- the flag is moving…I remember from science class that there’s no wind in space.” ?!
TheBlueSite on July 20, 2009 at 3:55 PM
FAKE!
Forest Gump proved that by recreating it all on a movie set.
In the coming months I hope to prove that the presidential election was a fake and never happen by recreating it in my backyard. I’m looking for backers to contribute money as we type.
jmarcure on July 20, 2009 at 3:57 PM
I love this clip…. reminds me of my Dad.
God love him.
Kids these days ( I know, cliche) don’t know how to handle confrontation and what is right and wrong. We have to be so politically correct it is unbeleivable. Not that this is on the same par as the above, but this weekend took my 17 year old daughter and my family to a concert and while waiting in a 35 minute line to go to the restroom, had two girls approx. 20 “sneak” in line in front of me. Everyone else just got mad and let them stand there, but I didn’t. They moved.
momof2 on July 20, 2009 at 3:58 PM
“The simple fact that Myth Busters was able to replicate most stuff on an earth based TV set pretty much proves that it was all done on a TV set. Just common since would dicktate that they would not been able to so easily duplucate the moon stuff on a TV set if it was really done on the moon.
jmarcure on July 20, 2009 at 3:32 PM”
Okay, here’s a “common sense” question? Why did NASA got to the trouble of “faking” moon landings another 5 times? Isn’t once enough?
Vera71 on July 20, 2009 at 4:00 PM
I was holding out hope for a Chappaquidick logo (it’s that 40th anniversary too, don’tcha know)
Alas, no partially submerged Oldsmobile logo…
massrighty on July 20, 2009 at 4:01 PM
Where do we send the money?
davidk on July 20, 2009 at 4:01 PM
If you want robust debate, then talk away.
If you want to fight, then start calling your opponent a coward and/or a liar.
Czarkazm on July 20, 2009 at 4:03 PM
Why? You act like space is difficult. It’s not. It’s one atmosphere, while the ocean depths is how many atmospheres? You want something difficult to do, then send a person to the lowest point in the oceans.
DFCtomm on July 20, 2009 at 4:04 PM
The show is a repeat, I’ve seen it before. Mythbusters showed that some stuff wasn’t repeatable, such as the bouncing in 1/6 gravity. Oh and as for the flag “waving” a test in a vacuum chamber had the flag moving more in a vacuum than in air. The jostling moved the cloth, which continued to move in the absence of resistance — such as air.
Watch it, good show.
rbj on July 20, 2009 at 4:05 PM
Fixed it. When, oh, when will we get an edit function.
DFCtomm on July 20, 2009 at 4:06 PM
It’s being worked into the “tiers” revisions.
massrighty on July 20, 2009 at 4:08 PM
I hate to be nitpicky here, but…the CNN “reporter” named two different sets of statistics, neither of which she had the exact numbers. Instead of naming her source on either, she said “some polls.”
WTF?
I know it is a B.S. story, but myself, I am kind of sick of strawmen being used by Obama’s and his adoring media.
By the way, I have a friend who’s father worked in Area 51, I’m not saying UFOs are real, but I’m not not saying it either.
TampaBayBull on July 20, 2009 at 4:10 PM
I’ll tell you what the moon-landing truthers are missing. There’s no Jooooooos in their conspiracy! How can you have an effective conspiracy theory without blaming the Jews for something or other?
Kevin M on July 20, 2009 at 4:12 PM
Plus, no connection to either the Carlyle Group or the Bush Family.
massrighty on July 20, 2009 at 4:13 PM
The internet is a direct result of stolen alien technology. That and Velcro.
DFCtomm on July 20, 2009 at 4:14 PM
Wipkipedia has the quote as:
Rightwingguy on July 20, 2009 at 4:14 PM
It used to be. It totally jumped the shark when it examined “a rolling stone gathers no moss”
lorien1973 on July 20, 2009 at 4:14 PM
My favorite hoax is how we are in Iraq for oil. Yep, my Hummer is running great off that Iraqi oil, especially last summer. Man, those where some good times. (/sarc).
Rightwingguy on July 20, 2009 at 4:15 PM
You think so. I think they’d jump the shark when they make a Mythbuster’s musical episode.
Rightwingguy on July 20, 2009 at 4:16 PM
Buzz Aldrin is old school.
SCOOPTHIScarlos on July 20, 2009 at 4:18 PM
Being in the ocean was faked too. There are no so-called “submarines” because people can’t breath underwater, dummy!
(/sarc.)
Rightwingguy on July 20, 2009 at 4:18 PM
The episode originally aired several years ago. Here it is
sluhser589 on July 20, 2009 at 4:18 PM
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